I hope Atlus remakes the game so that the style looks more modern... Also I hope they add in the FeMc

@TheBritishSn0rlax

3 жыл бұрын

They probably won’t

@angrylooweegee

3 жыл бұрын

I really hope that never happens

@TheBritishSn0rlax

3 жыл бұрын

@@angrylooweegee How about you try to summon your persona with an actual gun?

@maddylee134

3 жыл бұрын

@@angrylooweegee Why?

@maddylee134

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBritishSn0rlax I know... But it's nice to dream

Watching this bring back memories.. A silent, matured, aloof pure boy VS Outgoing, tomboyish, energetic cheerful girl, with both fated with heavy responsibility.

I get this is on the PSP with limited hardware, but they did Kotone dirty by not giving her an animated cutscene for her awakening like Makoto, Yu and Ren.

@Nexedail

Ай бұрын

In Portable Makoto doesn't have cutscenes either

I feel like atlus did FEMC a disservice by removing the anime cutscenes from the game. I understand that they had to due to the limitations of the system and likely not wanting to stress out the animators by forcing them to make 'the same thing but it's a girl now' but the removal of even small things like pharos say "go on" remove all the tension and just make it look like FEMC is jumping at the chance to kill herself. I still think the game is brilliant but it's the little things that can put you off

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I will always recommend to play FES the first time

@Reilly-K

3 жыл бұрын

Choreography and cinematics can make or break a story. If an incredible tale isn't conveyed well, it'll be as mediocre as a lesser narrative handled perfectly. That's really the problem with P3P - it ruins the telling of the story. And it's not just with cinematics, either. It also adds unnecessary dialogue, explanations, and choice elements that disrupt the flow and feel of certain scenes. This is especially true for the most important scene, the end... The way it's done in P3P is such a garbled mess that it completely takes away the impact.

@kallum39

3 жыл бұрын

@@Reilly-K could you explain? I just finished P3P and am now playing the answer, I thought the ending was good, what did Portable ruin?

@Reilly-K

3 жыл бұрын

@@kallum39 Apologies in advance for the impending short essay. I absolutely love the ending of Persona 3, and feel very strongly about it. I am also highly opinionated, so bare that in mind, too. And for context, my perspective bias is that I first experienced Persona 3 with the FES version, and afterwards examined Persona 3 Portable via KZread videos. *-- Also, for anyone else reading this comment, spoilers for the ending of Persona 3 --* As I said, choreography and cinematics can make or break a story. This doesn't mean that a story can only reach everybody or nobody depending on these factors - everyone has their own needs for full immersion. However, method of telling is critical to conveying message and emotion. Falling short in any of these aspects can lead to failure to communicate information or convey emotion. Particularly perceptive and empathetic people are more able to retain suspension of disbelief when faced with these shortcomings, but even these people may feel less impact as consequence of mishandled storytelling. First of all, the absence of the cutscenes at the end detracts a great deal on its own. The brief cutscene in which Aigis speaks to the protagonist is a perfect transition between the in-game scene and the credits, softly building up the emotion and leading perfectly into the sentiment delivered by "Kimi no Kioku". On that note, the music tune that plays during this short cutscene is a subtle, yet key aspect of the proper buildup and payoff. Jumping directly from the in-game scene to the credits doesn't create _immense_ whiplash, but it is enough of a hiccup to offset such an emotionally delicate progression of scenes. In addition, the post-credits cinematic is a beautiful finishing touch, demonstrating Aigis's newfound understanding and resolution. This gives the player a much more satisfying closure upon the end of the credits, and is a much better companion to "fin" than a black screen. Both of these cutscenes are short, but vital components to Persona 3's ending. That said, the rest of the scene is translated well from console to portable... with the exception of the newly-added "lover" endings. The introduction of the option to have a character of choice wedge themselves into the situation disrupts the flow of the ending scene. This is where the importance of "choreography" becomes especially evident. One problem is that the presence of this option can come off as "video game-y", potentially breaking immersion. Another is that the newly created situation choices are at odds with the somber, gradual buildup, both because of the added "energy" from these scene variants, and because the character-unique dialogue clashes with the established tone and theme by interfering with the mutual understanding being shared between Aigis and the protagonist. Personally, I feel that the line of text "Aigis quietly withdrew..." (unique to the male route) is representative of the issues in choreography that I see. Reading it, I get the image of someone suddenly remembering their script, then trying to quickly leave the stage without drawing too much attention. To put it simply, I can't shake the "additional content" feeling of these scene options. They feel very tacked-on and unnatural to me. Yet another problem is how the presence of this choice conflicts with the game's message on the precious nature of death. Having multiple variations of the scene that can be selected with a simple menu option brings the "replay value" to attention, taking away the meaning by distracting the player from the fact that death only happens once, and by ignoring the choicelessness that one faces on their deathbed. It also is a disrespect and denial of Shinjiro's words, "This is the way it should be". The presence of choice in a narrative eliminates the feeling of ultimate destiny, with its inescapably and consequential the belief of there being a "right" way - you can never know if it was the "right" way if you can't go back and do it differently, incentivizing an optimistic outlook. But being able to go back and change things presents a sense of escape from the chains of fate, inviting one to feel like they are they ones who decide how things "should" be, thus ignoring the lack of agency we have in the fact of mortality. (I could probably go on and on with my problems with the "lover" endings, but this comment is long enough already.) For those experiencing the ending for their first time in this manner, I feel that these alterations are reasons can be cause for not understanding or feeling the narrative of this otherwise beautifully-constructed ending scene in a story all about endings. I may have my reservations on this whole matter, but I'm happy you were still able to enjoy the Portable version of the ending! Assuming you care enough to put up with my ramblings, please do let me know what your thoughts are, if you'd be so inclined. I'm open to hearing new perspectives. ^^

@AncestralFruitcake

3 жыл бұрын

@@Reilly-K Personally, I like allowing Shinjiro to live in the FEMC route and I feel plays into "death is inevitable", just in a different way. Dude is a death seeker, and when he gets to where he thinks his death would be beneficial, instead he goes into a coma, and when he finally awakens, he finds that the person that actually made him see something in life besides atoning for what he views as his sins has herself died. This can both be expressed if you're romancing him or not. Death is inevitable, but you don't usually get to choose how to die. He thought he had made a choice and came to terms with it, but instead he has to deal with someone he was close to dying while he wasn't even there. I think its kinda, poetic is the word I guess? I agree with everything else you said tho. "OUTTA THE WAY AIGIS MY S/O IS HERE"

I hate how they just made Orpheus a girl instead of giving FEMC a fitting persona of the same gender as her

@Nexedail

4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@gumi_twylit2605

4 жыл бұрын

its still a male orpheus but with longer hair hahahaha

@WestOfLee100

4 жыл бұрын

PotatoSmash but fire so it’s cool

@A_keo

4 жыл бұрын

Eurydice would’ve been a good choice I think, seeing as she’s part of the same myth

@Roberto-mm4gr

3 жыл бұрын

Lisa from Persona 2 and P4’s Naoto had Personas based off males so...gender of the god/mythological entity doesn’t matter that much

she deserved an anime cutscene :/

@Nexedail

2 жыл бұрын

The entire PSP version deserves them

@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nexedail Agreed, thankfully Q2 gave her an amazing cutscene and a way better soundtrack. Pull the Trigger, amazing theme.

@iantophernicus6042

2 жыл бұрын

Atlas really should've let her have FES style visuals. I'm just glad that she's coming back.

As much as I think P3P is the definitive version of P3, this scene was handled 1000% better in the OG P3/P3FES. Especially since it doesn’t really make sense why FEMC goes and grabs the gun, whereas in the anime cutscene in the first game, Pharos tells the MC to do so. So I’ll just go back to hoping that we’ll one day get a P3 remake with P3’s cutscenes and overworld exploration and P3P’s QoL improvements and FEMC...

@Shendue

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that they'd have to make new cutscenes for female MC, and that's too expensive to justify, for a remaster.

@xord5293

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. P3 was my first ever RPG and I remember being on the edge of my seat during this scene! I may be old fashioned... by I think P3 and P4 are better experiences than P5, despite the former games being decades old now.

@skuff3125

3 жыл бұрын

I think the way to play is getting P3 FES with the controllable party mod, at least that’s what I’m doing

@zaqareemalcolm

3 жыл бұрын

@@skuff3125 i guess that depends on if you prefer P3 or P4's take on the battle system as a whole (not talking about AI control but how they handle things like knockdowns and stuff) P3P basically took P4's mechanics, and while it did certainly made some things less frustrating it also removed some of the difficulty in boss fights. On the other hand, though, cheesing Reaper is much easier in vanilla P3/FES

4:10 For people here for only the cutscene.....

4:07 soundtrack so good

I like how everyone has the same game that has that bug in the sprites when they close their eyes or something

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

That thing is caused by the emulator's upscale

@jgobea0188

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nexedail that's funny

@thequincy_

3 жыл бұрын

It can very easily fixed by setting the Texture Filtering to "Nearest". At least, that works for the PPSSPP emulator.

Obviously the cinematic cutscene from the console versions are better, but I actually prefer the way Thanatos works here. No build up, no jumping or fanciness, appears, single slash, then just SAVAGES the shadow like an animal before roaring. It really sells just how brutal and scary Thanatos is, far better than the cinematic does. Remaking the cutscene but just change the Thanatos part to this would be far more effective in my opinion.

@tastethecock5203

2 жыл бұрын

Eva 01 has gone berserk!!! 111

@ShadowOfMassDestruction

Жыл бұрын

Both feel the same to me its just that awesome

@MRDestructionmd

Жыл бұрын

Wdym? Thanatos does the exact same thing in both versions, it’s just this one doesn’t look as nice

@nahte123456

Жыл бұрын

@@MRDestructionmd no he doesn't. Synch the 2 up, cinematic he waits and jumps before attack, never punches or slams, and pants like he's tired.

yeah im sorry but this is nothing compared to the cutscene in the original game. Thanatos moment was still cool tho

@pikachucetthesecond4296

3 жыл бұрын

I actually prefer this one slightly, although I think that's just because of the weird animation in the original and the track they used here is more fitting

Hoping FES gets released on Steam so that eventually someone can mod in the FemC in a version that doesn't look like shit lol.

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

A remaster of FES with the gameplay of Portable would be awesome, even if they don't add FeMC it would be fine to me, as long there's The Journey and The Answer as they are in FES but with the gameplay of Portable

@xxProjectJxx

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nexedail eh, we could do without The Answer 😝 I agree tho, a remaster would be sweet. P3 has aged worse than the other modern Personas.

@DevinOfBacon

3 жыл бұрын

What's FES?

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

@@DevinOfBacon megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Persona_3_FES

@Chadfill8348

3 жыл бұрын

@@DevinOfBacon the PS2 version of Persona 3

That some bs male protag gets a cool as shit anime awakening but not the female on :/

@Nexedail

Жыл бұрын

On the Portable version they both didn't get anime cutscenes tho...

@IfeelS1c

Жыл бұрын

@@Nexedail DA SOME BULL SHIET

@madhippy3

Жыл бұрын

The limitation for the scene comes from the limitations of the portable but ya I get it. Especially now that we get a remaster on consoles. It really should have been more than a remaster they could have remade P3P to play like P3

@maramba32

9 ай бұрын

If only it was made from the Vita, oh well

OK I am just seeing a part of 3 but we really need to to modern remake with the female protagonist.

@iantophernicus6042

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know so much about a remake, but I'm glad we get to have the game on new consoles.

@silverthecatastrophic5270

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you are only getting the first half of your wish

I like the fact that they made two separated Orpheus for depending of the Gender of the main protag, really cool touch would be even cooler if they made the same thing for O.Tellos

I like this.

4:59

@darkyagami3503

4 жыл бұрын

Cursed

@WestOfLee100

4 жыл бұрын

What about it?

@tokiyodadelldew3244

3 жыл бұрын

@@WestOfLee100 The moan

I have some mixed feelings, regarding playing Persona 3. From what I know, Portable is better mechanically, with the ability to control party members, and an exclusive female mode (which I heard changes quite a lot) But...FES just looks so much better. And I don't know would I be able to stomach lack of anime cutscenes, those are a bit part of Persona's charm for me.

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

It was the same to me too, but in the end I played FES first and Portable later

@foughtthelol

3 жыл бұрын

Thems the breaks. It would have been much better had they bothered to draw more portraits. There's much offscreen characters talking with no voice and portrait.

@rileyahrnsbrak1628

3 жыл бұрын

Suprisingly I played p3 for the first time last year and I played the portable version and honestly I didn’t really have any complaints I think the visual novel style works great and the way they did the end boss cutscenes actually worked great I’m on the side of I don’t think it really needs a remake I loved it as is

@midnight-fox7456

3 жыл бұрын

@@rileyahrnsbrak1628 That's good for you. It's just that I, personally, find anime elements a big part of Persona's identity (at least from 3 forward)

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

@@midnight-fox7456 I agree with you Also, it's true that non anime cutscenes wasn't anything fancy, but at atleast you had something to watch, not 2 portraits and a text box That's why Persona 3 FES it's the best for a 1st run

"Takeba do you *read* me"

@miguelmendoza4005

3 жыл бұрын

*Spits out milk* WHY A SEX JOKE IN MIDDLE OF A IMPORTANT SUBJECT!?

@Jamindian9T2

2 жыл бұрын

Yukari: **looks receiver up and down, side eye** Giiiirl...I'm finna read yo-ass if you don't shut the hell up.! xD

6:36 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@aceplayroblox2711

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

(5:57) What song is this, and does the female route have exclusive songs?

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Atlus added some music exclusively for FeMC

@nataliecostanza3463

3 жыл бұрын

Wiping All Out

@aticowico

3 жыл бұрын

It's wiping all out, Femc's ost is really good and I heavily recommend it

She needs more attention!!!

Persona 3: Slideshow is the definitive version.

Thanatos

This is soo disappointing if this was like in p3fes it would be amazing

@Nexedail

4 жыл бұрын

I guess they couldn't remake anime FMVs for FeMC

@orpheus9299

4 жыл бұрын

Damn, they couldn’t even give her an anime cutscene...

@Sam-sn8oy

4 жыл бұрын

Orpheus There are no anime cutscenes on the portable version. There’s not enough storage space on the PSP.

@Nexedail

4 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a matter of budget

@Sam-sn8oy

4 жыл бұрын

Nexedail Nah, just an under powered system. Same reason it doesn’t have The Answer or most of the 3D environments.

What´s the name of the ost that appears on the minute 04:07?

@MrFAYAZ666

3 жыл бұрын

its master of shadow

@celia3586

2 жыл бұрын

Master of Shadow

that CloneReaper2219 r crazy , leave him alone.

@CloneReaper

3 жыл бұрын

What?

@c418vgytre

3 жыл бұрын

@@CloneReaper lolbased

Ryu ga Gotoku

@fburakproductions1162

3 жыл бұрын

wrong game sir

I'm new to this is that ryoji as her persona?

@asagiriasagi6243

4 жыл бұрын

Havent played this game for long time. If I remember correctly Thanatos was lived inside protagonist (either male/female) and has form as Pharos, and turned into Ryoji form once he left from Protagonist body. Something like that. And when protagonist first summoned their Persona, they lost control of it, thus turned into Thanatos like on this scene.

@seechwing2058

4 жыл бұрын

well no, but actually yes

@miguelmendoza4005

3 жыл бұрын

Correct amuno Asagiri Asagi

6:32 KO

I've always think about the female protagonist from Persona 3 is third rated

Lol

Female or male orpheus? I like the female one

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer the male, because as PotatoSmash said: "its still a male Orpheus but with longer hair"

@princejojos4213

3 жыл бұрын

And her instrument has the shape of a heart

@Nexedail

3 жыл бұрын

it's such an irrelevant detail that I've forgotten about it

@maingameajaskuy1482

3 жыл бұрын

I love male version

@geocross237

3 жыл бұрын

ive always called female Orpheus, Eurydice.

It looks soo trash

@zereon

3 жыл бұрын

that's what your mom said when you came out

@indevious9659

3 жыл бұрын

Tbh it doesn’t look good

@loliezz8461

3 жыл бұрын

stfu It’s beautiful

@indevious9659

3 жыл бұрын

I mean compared to something like persona 5 it doesn’t look as good. Not saying it’s terrible or anything.

@indevious9659

3 жыл бұрын

@king crimson Bro look at yourself. You’re not perfect.