Rand marches to his destiny. Perrin gets dragged to it unwillingly, but eventually accepts it. Mat does everything he can do to run from it, but ends up somehow running smack into it.....

@michaelhowze8198

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Mat's the Ur example of self fulfilling prophecy.

@breezy3392

2 жыл бұрын

That last line is so Mat

One of the minor but absolutely beautiful revelations for me in the series was when Perrin meets Boundless in the Wolf Dream and realizes that he is Noam, the man in the cage in Ghealdan. "The wolf is peace." It was just a really great moment.

@jamesfee1966

Жыл бұрын

Oh man, I completely missed this! I guess I've got something else to look for on the re-read.

@EvenGodsDie

10 ай бұрын

I thought it was when he killed his wife, during the attack on Edmonds Field

@felipetorres7489

10 күн бұрын

@@EvenGodsDie don't mention that travesty here, please

Perrin became my fav character when he was carrying ewgene while running from the crows and had the internal conflict of killing her to prevent her being tortured and killed by the crows. The pain and helplessness he expressed were so pure and relatable.

@felipealonso7859

4 жыл бұрын

At that moment I thought the author was shipping Perryn and Ewgene , at that specific moment they had some chemistry imo.

@countspyder4769

3 жыл бұрын

Ya I really like Perrin during those early books. However, his pure determination to NOT be a leader when literally everybody around him wants him to lead, and his absolute refusal to embrace his wolf side to the VERY end of the series made me really frustrated with him.

@Bizcuits26

3 жыл бұрын

My name in real life is Perrin

@breezy3392

2 жыл бұрын

I just read that scene and...yeah, that was heavy for Perrin

The scene where he makes his new axe/hammer is my favourite scene in the whole series

@blackwolfnews1722

2 жыл бұрын

That scene made the lull worth it to me.

The Faile nearly being dead was important, in the end he has to decide whether to go protect rand or find Faile and he decides to go for rand. That's the final change in him, he kept saying he'd watch the world burn for Faile but he finally realises his duty to rand comes first (and if rand fails, faile is dead anyway). Choosing between rand and Faile was the final point in his arc.

@clutch1141

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. Perrins obsession with Faile is distracting to the point of making some readers frustrated and missing the point. WoT is a story of how people grow when challenged in life(among many other things) and Perrin grew maybe the most of everyone.

@TheTorment

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed, but to be frank... having just recently read A Memory of Light for the first time, I couldn't shake the feeling that Robert Jordan was responsible for the disappearance of Faile and that he wanted to finish her story just like that - nobody knows what happened to her but she's most likely dead - and letting the reader assume that Perrin will now look for her for some time and he most likely won't ever find her, or will find her dead. But with Jordan never specifying that she IS dead, Sanderson decided to give Perrin a happy ending and let him find her in his very last scene in the epilogue.

@samanthaa.6055

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTorment Jordan wrote Faile's rescue in Knife of Dreams,, so that was def wrapped up.. Your comment is extra old so not wanting to drag you into a convo 3 years later lol. Just wanted to correct that point.

Hopper dying is literally the first thing I read in a book that made me cry. I was literally devastated for days.

Perrin has always been my favorite of the three followed closely by Mat. Perrin always seemed the most mature and better suited to leading. Plus, the wolf connection? That's probably the best ability in the entire series.

One of my favorite scenes in the books in relation to Perrin is the forging of the hammer. straight up chills every time. i have gone back and just re-read that scene whenever i have felt anxiety or am tired or depressed and it always gives me the inspiration to move forward

Perrin and Hopper had such a good unconventional bromance. "To soar" gets me every time.

And remember, balefire is just a weave.

@FMRovers

6 жыл бұрын

jobobminer schmidt but is it?? How can a weave destroy the fabric that is time and space. A weave is made out of time and space. It has to be more.. it is like.. light that is faster then light. (I realy want to see the cgi of that!)

@jobobminer8843

6 жыл бұрын

I was referring to how Perrin stops Balefire with his hand in the world of dreams. Of course its not "just a weave" in that sense. but as far as Perrin is concerned, yes it is just a weave.

@Fearienify

5 жыл бұрын

Her whole wakeup call in that scene was beautiful.

@IchibanOjousama

5 жыл бұрын

@@Fearienify i'm tearing up again

@michaelhowze8198

3 жыл бұрын

@@FMRovers Because time and space is the weave as is everything else.

I'm actually a huge fan of Perrin's story arc while searching for his wife. As a soldier and father I could relate to this part of the story in a way that I think few have been able to. In war you will do things that many will perceive wrong and that you must justify to yourself in order to avoid going insane. In this part of his story he is going through the same issues that most Infantry men will go through as they try to protect their loved ones, while justifying their actions when others are harmed. Also, many veterans will literally kill to keep their families, spouse, safe from any harm. Jordan was showing his history as a Vietnam veteran and added some of that into his books through story arcs such as this one.

@russianhorde

5 жыл бұрын

This section of Perrin's arc along with Faile's perspective during that time seemed to drag that portion of the plot out for an uncomfortably long time. I really appreciate your comment which helps put that into better perspective.

@andrewpearce5477

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service!

@shawnduket5417

5 жыл бұрын

As a fellow veteran, thank you for your service. I'm a huge fan of Perrin because he reminds me of me. Always big for his age and deemed dumb by most because he thinks before he speaks. While I'm not a huge fan of this part of his story, I can still relate.

@altorins

4 жыл бұрын

I really liked it as well as I could relate to it, even before I became a vet. It also definitely fits with his character. Perrin is very intelligent and has a natural gift for strategy. He is fiercely loyal, and Faile matched his character perfectly, but even if she didn't it was very realistic the degrees he wouldn't ordinarily go to. I've often wondered myself to what degrees I would go to to rescue my wife or family, and it's gone to some pretty dark places. Altho I will admit it dragged on a bit too long.

Perrin is wise but not quick witted. He never has a snappy comeback, but he never makes poor decisions. My best friend in life is like Perrin. People use to make fun of my friend because they thought that he was slow witted. He listened more than he talked. He did not want to stand out so he did not. The thing about this friend of mine is he took his time thinking through things when they mattered. He rarely ever made a decision that he had not thoroughly thought through. He could and would act swiftly when circumstances dictated doing so, but if there was time to reflect then he would. He is a natural leader because he never panics when things go wrong. When the world goes crazy the rest of us people look frantically around to find this type of person because they are rocks we can cling to in the storm.

@jrpotter9659

6 ай бұрын

"Min was just somebody who worked at the inn in Baerlon," Perrin said. "Not like Aram." Egwene choked on her tea. "Too hot," she muttered. I bust out laughing each time!

I think the reason Perrin never mentioned the wolf issue during the trial was because he believed it would hurt his case, rather than help it, and I think that's a reasonable assumption. When we first meet him, he hates wolves and associates them with bad things because they steal sheep. Later in TEOTW, he asks Lan if his new abilities are a thing of the shadow, and Lan replies that he doesn't know. He's kept this part of him a secret from most of his friends and allies because he believes they become wary and lose their trust in him, because he reacted the same way upon meeting Elyas. But these aren't normal villagers that he's confronting, people who know him and might be eventually persuaded that he's not a monster. These are whitecloaks, who already want Perrin dead several times over. And whitecloaks are not known for their tolerance. They believe that all channelers should be murdered and everyone who doesn't bow to their every whim is a darkfriend. Heck, during the last battle, at least one of them believes Ogiers are shadowspawn, as he actively watches them fight trollocks! Obviously at this point that last one hasn't happened yet, but the whitecloak worldview doesn't allow for the possibility of something different not being evil. I believe that Perrin recognised this, and realized that revealing his reasoning would require revealing his abilities, which would only further turn them against him.

@TheTorment

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah but that's kinda exactly what I didn't like about the trial - maybe Perrin didn't have to come 100% clean but he should have at least acted more aggressive during it, he should have said just how devious and sadistic those White Cloaks he encountered were and accused them as a group of being full of paranoid bigots seeing darkfriends everywhere. Hell, if I was him (and my personality is actually very similar to Perrin's, lol), I'd outright accuse Jaret Byar of being a Darkfriend and working both against him and against the White Cloaks. Sure, such behavior would probably turn some White Cloaks against him, but we have to remember that he only needed to convince Morgase and Galad during the trial, and this would probably work on Galad because he's a very just and fair person, and at this point he's also aware that many White Cloaks under his rule are actually sadists and/or paranoiacs

@dianabarila609

6 жыл бұрын

See I never saw him as the confrontational type with the exception of with regards to his wife, he isn't out to disband the whitecloaks, he just wants his people freed and I think that if it had come to it he would have gone to his own execution (well, tried to - Faile would have forcibly restrained him but that's beside the point). It wasn't the whitecloaks on trial, it was Perrin, and by this point he'd already willingly admitted that he had killed those men, so I think what you're suggesting would have been kind of off topic. It would also run the risk of provoking the whitecloaks to attack, an event which has been established as something Perrin would like to avoid at all costs, even if it results in his execution.

@TheTorment

6 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't be off topic because it would make the accusations against him seem way weaker. Saying how sadistic and treacherous these particular White Cloaks who attacked him were would make his violent reaction more justified, especially considering the fact that he openly respects 'good' White Cloaks like Galad or Bornhald senior, so it's not like he just despises them all. And all the accusations towards Perrin that made the whole trial take place are Jaret Byar's, and he is quite clearly a liar, a person consumed by hatred and most likely a Darkfriend, so proving that the only person who has any real evidence and accusations towards Perrin is either a Darkfriend or a lying asshole on personal vendetta would surely place Perrin in a much better position.

I'll be honest, Perrin is my favorite by far. He's just straight up a badass...

SPOILERS I feel like there was some more development than you are giving credit too with Perrins torture of the Aile. If I'm remembering correctly when he is done he throws the axe away and chooses to fight with a hammer because it can also create as well as destroy. I feel like it is Perrin acknowledging the violence within him and accepting it without letting it take control of him.

@shawnduket5417

5 жыл бұрын

He throws the axe into a tree while talking to Elyas Machera. Elyas asks him if he's finally giving up the axe and Perrin replies that it can stay there for someone who has a better use for it.

@yeahbee8237

5 жыл бұрын

Together with the making of the hammer later is my fav sequence

While I love the snarkiness of Matt, just because it's funny and fun, I think Perrin had the best character development of the series. Being cautious and caring and gentle -> discovering his literal wild side -> battling with that -> deep loss -> falling in love -> becoming a serious badass -> becoming a leader -> becoming basically a damn god -> still being humble.

@michael305m3

3 жыл бұрын

Perrin certainly had the best character development in the early books but mat and ran overtook him in development in later books as Perrins development stalled after hitting the 7th book

No, he's just careful. Years of being the blacksmith's apprentice (and being able to potentially hurt people because of it) has taught Perrin to be cautious when handling himself and his large body. He also learned that caution when speaking as well, for a similar reason (especially with Mat speaking quickly and getting into trouble). It does lead to the same end point though, others think Perrin is unintelligent when he is not.

@RRSmurf

4 жыл бұрын

Thinking before you speak is now considered 'stopping yourself from being intelligent' 😂

@selinapoochie

2 жыл бұрын

@@RRSmurf obviously from the outside, taking too long to answer does look like being unintelligent

I very much appreciate your videos, but I do want to caution you about mistaking deliberation and fear for insecurity. From the beginning, Jordan’s description of Perrin includes the fact that his size makes him wary and deliberate because he worries that he might hurt others without intending to do so. This physical wariness is internalized as an emotional wariness as well. In many ways Faile works as the embodiment of an ideal. She is a counterpart who Perrin cannot break either physically or emotionally. This frees him to move beyond his childish fears brought about by being the embodiment of a “Bull in a china closet.” Jordan even makes his wolf “name” Young Bull. Remember. Jordan had the experience of leading very young men in the most trying and traumatic of experiences brought about in the most jarring and abrupt way possible. It cannot be understated that the core of Perrin’s personality is the desire to keep himself from hurting anyone. Often, the biggest guys in the room are the most thoughtful and soft spoken. Because their size is so obvious, they try to divert attention from themselves in other ways. In essence making themselves as unobtrusive as possible. One of the reasons Jordan makes Perrin’s greatest power more cerebral. Existing outside his physical experience. Faile’s largeness of personality requires Perrin to find greater equilibrium in himself order to make their journey together work. Never forget, the initial 5 Emond’s Fielders (Rand, Mat, Perrin, Egwene, and to a slightly lesser extent Nyneave) are all children on the cusp of adulthood. From a backwater village, spun out by the pattern with zero preparation to be arguably the five most important people in the world. While their circumstances change in an eye blink, their emotional cores do not. Robert Jordan was very good at portraying this fact. Beware dissecting these characters as fully formed Adults. They’re not. The development and stunting of emotional maturity plays a huge role with regard to understanding the forsaken as well, but I don’t want to drown you in a sea of comment section print. Feel free to drop me a line.

@rexfordmorgan7552

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent.

@RRSmurf

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent indeed.

@theprophet333

4 жыл бұрын

The video plus this comment seem to encompass Perrin wonderfully! He was my favorite of the three: Thank you for this justification of his measured ways. :)

@inkstainedsword9890

4 жыл бұрын

theprophet333 thanks!

I agree with that last bit, the tension of whether of not Faile was alive to me was just heart breaking and that whole sequence is cinematic and beautiful as hell.

Perrin was always my favorite of the three. I love all the trio, but he resonated more with me. I do think that Faile is good for him. People do need to remember that when they first meet that they are both young and still not fully emotionally developed into the people they are meant to be.

I've been binging through these videos because I'm rereading WoT for the first time, and OH MY GOD it is so helpful to go to wikis and videos like this without worrying about spoilers. Please keep making these character analyses.

@KeeliaSilvis

6 жыл бұрын

However, I have two disagreements with your analysis on Perrin: (1) Just because Perrin is slow doesn't mean he is unintelligent. Yes, he's held back by insecurity almost the entire series. But his intelligence thorough, methodical, "I want to look at this problem from every angle." Speaking as a scientist, Perrin would make an excellent researcher. Far better than quick-witted but biased and impulsive Mat, for example. (2) I interpreted the Perrin trial not as a breach of character but a crisis where a broken, exhausted man is looking for an easy way out. But it'll be a while before I get back to that part; I'll try to come back to this video after I do.

I actually liked the part when perrin went super manic to find his wife. I interpreted it as, him being a man, it was his most animalistic base instinct to find her save her and kill the ones who took her as he fed into his wolf nature. all the progress he made as a leader was pushed to the side. Then instead of working towards finding a balance with his inner wolf he fully embraced it trying to find fielle it lead to more resentment for almost lossing himself in the wolf again. I feel like he is the most consistently downtrodden main character of the three. Rand has greater follies but i think perrin has more that he consistently has to think about and have weigh him down emotional unlike rand who is consistent in the idea he will die saving the world and just trys shoving it all into the void.

Daniel, you're a goddamn treasure

Perrin is hands down my favorite character. Partially because he reminds me of the best parts of what it is to be a man. Matt is a close second but perrin is a man to endeavor to be more like

Perrin was my favourite character from the start. I think it's because the 'just wanting to be a normal guy and have a simple life' dream rings true for most people, even when your life/job/career sends you down a different path. I didn't mind Faile, even though the whole kidnap and rescue of her did drag on too long. Of all the characters, I connected more with Perrin and cared more for what he was going through. Listening to your review of him does now make me wonder why that's the case as his story line, just like Rand and Matts is completely bonkers. However, it just goes to show how good the story is, and how good the writing is, that I can relate to what a fictional character in a fantasy world is going through, despite being able to talk to wolves, enter dream worlds etc etc etc I'm loving these videos, keep them coming. I'm considering my third WOT re-read on the back of your videos

@kinggoten

5 жыл бұрын

agreed, but I feel like the whole kidnap/rescue dragged on for so long because RJ really didn't know what to do with his character at that point in the story so he had it drag on sadly, I'm hoping it is handled better in the show.

Perrin has always been my favorite, probably because he is most reliable to me.

Love your insight into characters! Keep it up 😊

Wow! This is a great channel. I love how you are not only talking about the wheel of time but other series as well to make a mix of things instead of only talking about one series and one series only. And you make it interesting by making character battles. And to put the cherry on top of the ice cream sundae of great reading channels, you grab characters from different series and make them battle. What I am saying is that KZread needs more channels like yours. While you are reading and reviewing all these good books and making character battles and awesome detailed character examinations, there are other channels out there are are eating Tide Pods for veiws. Even though I read a lot, this makes me want to read more. Thank you. 📖📚😊😊😊😎 😎📚📖

Wow, this Daniel guy has some really good videos on the Wheel of Time. Can't wait to see more of him!

Your sidenote about Perrin made my day!

I feel like perrin trying to get back Faeile (sp?) is the epitome of what makes the slog the slog.

Excellent as always

The thing about Perrin's story while Faile was taken is that you have to know what it means to truly love someone, to truly mean that you can't live without that person. If you know that kind of love, you understand that part of his story.

@RRSmurf

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with the plot line except for going on way too long.

I agree about the three book story line were Perrin is sitting out side the Ael camp going nuts over his wife was way to fucking long. Should have been one book, then move the fuck on. The problem I had with Perrin, and part of the conclusion of the stories is Perrin, and the men of the Two Rivers submitting so easily to Elayne on giving up the Manetheren banner. Andor abandoned the Two Rivers for a few generations by this time. The Two Rivers survived on their own. Endured trolloc attacks, and occupation by the While Cloaks. They solved these problems on their own. They then took in refugees and started to remember their past. They build a new society, they earned their independence from a monarch who cared nothing for them. They also formed their own army to fight the Dark One. So when Elayne demands that they are hers and there is no dispute over this, it kind of pisses me off. Perrin and the people of the Two Rivers earned their independance. They should have told this to Elayne. A good ally and neighbor but they rule themselves.

Cool to see new people start reading the series. Perception of characters varies from person to person and you are entitled to yours...even if I see Perrin differently in some aspects than you.

Book four was easily the best Perrin book IMO.

@Jamestp19

6 жыл бұрын

Book four is probably the best book.

@kylecook7187

6 жыл бұрын

James gotta disagree my dude, Book 6 has got to be number 1, with book 2 at a debatable second place

@The_Reductionist

6 жыл бұрын

4's good, Dumai's Wells is also good, but The Gathering Storm was my favorite - with ZenRand sorting out the shit he'd done in the last 12 books.

Oof starts straight off with hate for my boy. Thinking things through is being thorough. You don't have to make quick, rash decisions to be intelligent. He is in most aspects the most mature of the three boys throughout the series. He is also the most naturally gifted both physically and mentally. He is good at battle planning even though he doesn't have dead people in his head like the other lads.

I believe Jordan based the 3 kids personalities on the zodiac. Perrin is the give away as a tourus. The wolves call him young bull, he works with earth, he's slow to anger etc etc. Mat is a ram and rand is Gemini. If you keep those archetypes in mind almost all their motivations become clear

@charlesowens5996

5 жыл бұрын

Also forgot to mention, perrins stubbornness and single mindedness in getting fail back is classic tourus

People underestimate Perrin. He is more complex than they realise. Too much weight is attributed to Perrin's own warped world view. Perrin is all about choice and overcoming internal heavy burdens.

I think Perrin is kind of like Caramon Majere from Dragonlance. It's big and strong and thought to be stupid by many characters, but it's really just that he's careful and deliberate and likes to think things all the way through before making a decision. People who are quick thinkers often see that as stupidity, but careful deliberation is the exact opposite of stupidity.

Congrats on hitting 46K!!!

Hi it’s Ella Adam!! From uk 🇬🇧 England great video!! I like ur book recommendations 😄😄

Hey man you do an awesome job with your videos! I love wheel of Time it ruined me for other books since I was 14 except for Brandon sanderson. It's good to revisit and not have to reread the huge set of books that I've read already 4 or 5 times waiting for new books to come out. Perrin is my second favorite main character. I love the way his character was developed and when he made the hammer with the power was awesome gave me goosebump! Oh yeah #teamMatt forever bitches!! Keep up the great work all you WOT fans making videos of our beloved books and just sharing all of y'all's experiences with this epic story that I kinda grew up on! Love you guys my cat is being weird again gotta go!

Perrin is deliberate and often seen as slow only because he learned the hard way that he is significantly stronger than most other people; he is constantly in fear of accidentally causing somebody great harm if he loses his temper. I think I recall that this aspect of his character was mentioned in one of the early books, perhaps in the Eye of the World, in which he internally recalls breaking another boy's arm when he was younger when he lost his temper and, from then on, took extra care in his interactions with others so as not to repeat his mistake.

Awww...young Daniel is so cute🥰🥰

Perrin was my fav character till Faile appears. I hate that girl's kidnapping arc and everything that follows it.

@kylecook7187

6 жыл бұрын

Sriharsha Modhukuri I have yet to find a fan of the 'I miss my wife arc'

@sriharshamodukuri8844

6 жыл бұрын

DocDemonic 801 Come on, his search for his wife takes four looong books and I literally thought of leaving the series at one point. But Mat and Tuon 💝

@danasutton-echols2171

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, she ruined Perrin for me too.

Perrin is by far my favorite character of the story. I think he is by far the best "person" throughout the series. He was definitely the most humble and caring of others above himself even though he had the most personal loss than any other character. I disagree, I loved the "must find Faile" arc, while I didn't always like her, I loved what she did for Perrin's character development. It could have been shorter yes, but only because I hated how much he suffered over her loss after already losing so much! Their reunion was one of my favorite moments, even though I did mutter "it's about damn time." I can also relate to his level of protectiveness. I know flat out the lengths of viciousness I would go to inorder to protect my family, without remorse or regret. While that does scare me, I know it to be true, but hope it is never necessary.

My favorite WoT character

Well this was a mistake lol. I read the series way back in the day and have forgotten most of it. So when prime made a tv show I started to watch it and thought to myself."well that not right" and "what no that isn't right either." So I found the audio books and started listening to them. was just taking a small break when I seen this and thought to watch it. but I am only half way through "The Dragon Reborn". right now. So I can see you are doing a good job with this video I think I will stop listening now as it has been so long since I read the books that I am afraid of even more spoilers. So I will take up this video again at a later date. But in the mighty words of Hancock. "Good job, your doing a good job" :)

Slayer not hunter

This is why Perrin is my favorite character.

11:30 Perrin forges Miojnier, I love it (though I'm sure i spelled that wrong 😅)

I think the Whitecloak thing, was to recruit them, rather than having to kill a sizeable amount of them. By then, he was just more savvy politically, while still being driven by actual morals. Late comment. :D

I like Faile, she was the classic strong woman behind every great man, she refused to be set aside or left out of anything, even when it put her in danger, and she pushed and shoved Perrin to be the man he really was. His final ascent to his full manhood was when he went beyond himself and rose to every challange and even dealt with the Devils, to rescue her.,

I also agree that how he dealt with the trial didn't fit his character. Honestly I think that this was one of Brandon Sanderson's stumbling points in finishing the WoT series. I can't be too upset over it though, because you need to give some concessions to an author who is tasked with finishing such a stunning fantasy epic.

Those 3 books dealing with Faile's kidnapping were the hardest books to complete! The story just dragged and dragged and I almost stopped reading the series. Even now a month later I've been reluctant to continue book 11, Knife of Dreams. Faile still hasn't been rescued. Perrin was my 2nd favorite character after Mat, among the males. Of course Nynaeve is my ultimate favorite. Hopefully I'll push past my 'WALL' and resume reading. I do want to know if and how Rand fulfills his destiny.

I love Perrin because he reminds me so much of myself in a lot of ways. I'm not a huge fan of the arc where Faile is taken but I agree that there are some pivotal and interesting parts to it. As for the wolf thing and the trial, I think he chooses not to mention it since the Whitecloaks deem that anything to do with the Power is evil and the Aes Sedai often note that what Perrin does has been researched and linked to the Power. Not necessarily using the Power but linked to it. Also, Elyas Machera was a warder at one point.

One of my younger brothers was named after Perrin Aybara, and I'll never stop being amazed at how closely his development has mirrored Perrin's as he became a man, despite him having never read the books. I mean, without the wolves. So far.

My only problem with Perrin was it took to long but that was how Jordan wanted it.

If i won the lottery (stupid crazy big money) i'de hire you to make this a freakin show dude

This is why I rate Perrin above Mat as a character if only just.

I believe it’s because he tried explaining what happened to the white cloaks that captured him and egwene and they didn’t believe him and that stuck with him for the trail. But yeah the trail was ehhh in my books as well

So love this! Second I play eso a lot and would love to make a toon based on him. Any ideas?

He who soars

Any chance of doing a Zarine Bashere video? I'm still just in book 4 but I love her lol

Have you heard that Amazon is developing the Wheel of Time TV show?

I think Perrin has always sought justice, and that is why he was willing to submit to it. He knows those first Whitecloaks that he killed, were innocent. They were just men doing their job, and up until a week prior, Perrin would have killed a wolf jumping out of the dark at him, just as easily and non-shalantly. He understands that his action, taken in great haste, and with malice, was wrong. His guilt is genuine, and his conscious demands he stand accountable. This was the start of his journey with the wolves, and it was not until after the trial that he could embrace himself fully. Could the story have not taken three books, and put me to sleep with boredom several times, yes, but it needed to be told, and the trial was a very necessary part of it.

Daniel, have you seen any character studies, or have you created any, that reveal who the character is a reincarnation of (sometimes the author combines multiple legends into the same character (suggesting that these are different incarnations(?) of the same character and/or a different cultures interpretation of the same legend). For instance, Rand Al'Thor is King Arthur (and probably other legendary characters), Perrin is Thor (and possibly others), etc.? I would really like to see something like that.

@tompadfoot3065

5 жыл бұрын

the Norse connections are pretty solid with all three boys. Mat is 100% Odin (one eye, symbolized by a pair of ravens, favorite hat, powerful spear, was hung from a tree, Lord of Battles), Rand is Tyr (magic powers, missing hand, fated to die during Ragnarok) and Perrin is a hybrid of Thor and Eitri for sure (big dude, magic hammer, magical blacksmith).

You are spot on with the Whitecloak part being awfully written. However, there are some mistakes to your Shadio torture scene: He NEVER threatens their eyes and tongues. ONLY their hands and feet. Also, he did question them first. However the Shadio just sang him a song instead. This itself is a HUGE difference in his characterization. He is not THAT bad of a person to torture first before asking for info. And also . . . he finally excepts his wolf nature in books 3 and 4. NOT much later when another author started writing him and made mistakes in his characterization. And . . . Hopper did NOT die for good. He is part of Perrin's new Hammer which is the REASON that he can move in and out of TAR in the Flesh. This is confirmed by Sanderson himself. And . . . it was not possible for Faile to die due to Min's Vision of Perrin being linked to the Saldean Crown in the very FIRST book. Jordan's instructions were for Perrin to be a KING at series end. Thus the KIng of Saldaea - the Wolf King. Faile is obviously the Queen of Saldaea.

He did explain about the wolves but the Whitecloaks see it as being a Darkfriend.

What's your thought on the compulsion part at the end?

Spoilers ahead Perrin was better written and more endearing than any of the two rivers characters up to dumai's wells, he was my favorite up to that point, he was the super boy scout, always thinking of everyone else before him, so I am led to believe that the Plot of Doom was there only to flaw him as a character, to avoid making him into superman, and STILL got the superman treatment in the last battle (taken out of it for the most part so everybody else could be badass, bcs, lets be serious, he was superman at that point) Makes me wonder, would we love Matt as much if not for the Plot of Doom?, the diminishing returns of Aiel culture in the books? and the Rand going more wool headed by the day? During those books, Matt grew on me, I hated the guy, but Light! he became so refreshing after reading on Egweane's I am right because I am Amyrlin, Rand's I got to be hard as cuendillar rabbit hole and Perrin's I got to save Faile Plot of Doom; then Matt became my favorite. As soon as Perrin got Faile back and Rand became Zen, the whole dynamic changed again, the problem is, Perrin was not raised back to his previous levels of awesome, so he would not overshadow Rand, and Matt kept being Matt, so third place for Perrin. Also, Jordan's treatment of Perrin's love for Faile is there, to make a clear contrast to Rand's love of his trio, the guy that thought of everyone first would not, and could not let his love go, for any reason, the pattern be damned, while the guy that spent 13 books trying to deny his fate, actually let his love go, in sacrifice for everyone. It was a much needed contrast for us to put Rand into perspective, I guess...

dude luv Hopper.. It was painful man...

*Spoliers* Loved that he showed Egwene who was boss of the dream world when she attacked him. Loved that he was the only character that cared about the Two Rivers enough to return & help. Hated his relationship with Faile, constant whining, & his empowering the Seanchan with Wise One captives.

They are all Ta'veren and you don't mention that, which is a massive character detail.

Good work Daniel. Glad you never went into that Berelain BS.

Great Work !! Iam getting back into the series again (i lost interest somewhere in book 9) and i watch your reviews to get the story back in my head. But! can you plz make a 'bar' or some kind were we can see where in the book series your content is coming from? (like the bar yt has for seconds but now you do it per book) ps. i was shocked when i heard Faíle died... :( my kind of woman...

@dianabarila609

6 жыл бұрын

FMR but... She doesn't... He says she doesn't... I've read them all and I can assure you she survives...

@FMRovers

6 жыл бұрын

Oww lol :) When i (thought i) heard it... i closed my phone asap.. (For not wanting to know more) Tnx for telling me this :)

@ravenprince.23

6 жыл бұрын

Dude, finish the series. The last 3 books are the best. And whatever you do, don’t skip the prologue of A Gathering Storm, that is some excellent writing and visuals. One of my favorite parts of the series, and it’s in a prologue!

finally

I have always wondered why the WoT hasn't worked out for me at all.. I've read until book 10 but it never hooked me like some of Raymond Feist's books.

@kylecook7187

6 жыл бұрын

Borislav Daskalov Jesus fucking Christ. you made it through Winters Heart without getting into it? I mean, 3 books, cool I get it, but you read through Winters fucking Heart, and you still had hope it would be good? I'm sorry dude. I'm truly sorry. At least when I made it to the godforsaken slog that is the 'I miss my wife wah wah wah' story arc I was thoroughly in love with the characters and world.

@borislavdaskalov9239

6 жыл бұрын

DocDemonic 801 don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the books but around book 7 or 8 more and more chapters felt like filler for me and eventually reading became too slow and forced... Maybe I was just too young, was reading them when I was about 15 or maybe my taste is a bit different

@minkberg1096

6 жыл бұрын

In my experience the last four books are amazing. I highly recommend them to you

@toddjackson3136

5 жыл бұрын

I have found the same questions when comparing Jordan and Feist. I enjoy both of them, but I think for me WOT developed SO many characters that were part of the ongoing plot that I started to tune out parts.

Watching this as late as I am the legless armless not tongue or eyes part gives me venom flashbacks lmfao not to take away from the story as I did read atleast to book six sadly not even close enough but I've found Dan at this point an I felt it had to be pointed out for fun really this is the only book serious I've started on an never finished not for lack of trying but I read book 6 at 17 an went til Sanderson finished the serious before I have a close enough friend to be a brother to me know I found out him an his mother were huge supporters of Robert Jordan an especially the wot I tried to pick up where I left off couldn't do it sadly after so many years an now with 2 kids one in pre k an this stupid pandemic to boot have not been able to re read as much as ide like were a good distance apart but schedule conflict aside I'm really looking forward to getting back In an finishing probably what is one of the greatest fantasy series of all time even with tropes to an extent being used.. well not really but inspiration for some of the story it's very well stands out on its own if I could meet Robert Jordan today I would have no words only clap an smile thank u for ur work an thank u Dan 👏 for loving this as much as I do my daughter's ur a great content creator an I look forward to ur work in the future if ur willing to consider the Redwall series ide be great full however I do say that knowing an expecting that many of those books are very much stand alone perhaps same universe but I'm curios of ur opinion as reaching my AR point stature in 7th an 8th grade were do in large part to those as well as the pendragon series an eragon books as released during that time played a significant role in the fantasy novels during that time an well into my highschool years at that

Is that thieves world books on your shelf?

i agree that the lull sucks however it is completely in character he does anything and everything to protect them and he is super single minded and angry even his darker actions make since in this distress

Reading this series for the first time. Perrin is my favorite for sure. Side note I hate the aes Sedai. Even the main once become more and more unbearable as the series goes on

I'm watching this video to see if I can begin to not despise Perrin's chapters

I feel that Jordan killed perrins family because he was the most emotionally stable to be able to handle it. Rand would have gone very unstable. Mat would have at that point gone on a vengeance quest.

Not me sitting here PRAYING they make Perrin the group Himbo in the TV show. Nope.

Perrin's a warg.

I don't know if you read Warbreaker, as it does tie in to the Stormlight Archives. But you should do a character examination of Vasher, as he is probably one of the most importent characters in Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere. Also a awesome character, if you haven't read it, you might know Vasher as Zahel.

Hunter=Slayer. The Lull=The Slog. (semantics)

I forget, can Perrin go in and out of the dream world physically?

I think perrin is meant to be wise. Feom robert Jordan's perspective

My only critique is that Robert Jordan kind of overdid it with Perrin's reluctance to lead. Other than that, I very much like his character.

I disagree parins over thinking is to show his self control. Throughout the book his biggest fear is the loss of control. Thats why he was afraid of the wolf powers because he would act out and lose control.

i thought Rand and Perrins fight in the throne room was orchestrated?

@T.H.E.Smith_Boiiis

5 жыл бұрын

also i don't think he is dumb by any means, i agree with your point on insecurities but i think his being quiet and taking time to think things through stems more from him being a bigger boy growing up and being able to really hurt his friends accidentally if he doesnt take time to calm down, curb his strength and really think about his movements. somewhere along the way he realized the same could be said about lashing out of anger verbally and the damage it could do to friendships relationships and later on alliances and political standing. He wants to hold the theoretical blacksmiths puzzle of a thought in his hands, turn it over and over churning ideas in his mind until he can see what eventually becomes, the obvious answer.

@T.H.E.Smith_Boiiis

5 жыл бұрын

i jumped the gun commenting about the conflict, its been awhile since i read i was excited to remember something like that.

look, i'm not normally gay, but that image of Perrin @3:33 is daddy

Honestly, I suspect Perrin is autistic - or at least based upon undiagnosed autistic people that Robert Jordan would have met during his time in Vietnam, given the nature of the draft. I also suspect that of Galad, which is how the two come to such a quick understanding. I know that "diagnosing" fictional characters is mental masturbation at best, but given that Egwene's characterization in later books makes far more sense if you look at it through the lens of PTSD (bearing in mind that she spent months as a slave to the Seanchan), it seems entirely plausible to me. It would also explain why I identify far more with Perrin than either of the other two ta'veren.

Oh, and that ain't an axe. It's a maul, straight up. A warhammer.

Lol I'm named after him

I never understood why finding his wife took 3 books. It really ruined Perrin for me as a character, loved him up to that point but those 3 books were such a burden on his story line. It definitely could have been accomplished in 1 book and Perrin could have been flushed out way more. I think Jordan was just too busy with Matt and Rand

Perrin was wrong about his behavior toward the whitecloaks, it was a justified kill, tho not because he liked the wolf. However it is consistent with Perrin's character who leans very havily towards the way of the leaf. Imagine a case where a farmer from the westwood sees a traveler walking west from emonds field. being polite this farmer asks if the traveler knows one of the farmers in the westwood, for whatever reason the traveler refuses to respond. the farmer pulls out a weapon and demands the traveler disarm, if the traveler kills that farmer he is justified to do so. Perrin has more right to travel in Andor and the whitecloaks have zero justification to demand anything of Perrin let alone disarm.