Perplexity CEO: Disrupting Google Search with AI
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One of the most preeminent AI founders, Aravind Srinivas (CEO, Perplexity), believes we could see 100+ AI startups valued over $10B in our future. In the episode, we discuss why Perplexity decided to compete with Google and Aravind shares predictions for the utopian future of artificial intelligence. He also discusses the differences between working at both DeepMind and OpenAI, why personalized knowledge on demand could be a trillion-dollar opportunity and more.
(00:00) Intro
(01:34) The Evolution of Search Engines
(04:01) Perplexity: Bridging the Gap Between Google and Wikipedia
(05:04) The Philosophy Behind Perplexity and Its Unique Approach
(06:33) Redefining Search: The Shift from Links to Answers
(09:02) The Business Model Dilemma: Google's Challenge with Innovation
(13:46) The Importance of Aligning Shareholder and User Interests
(27:00) The Complexities of Building a Competitive AI Talent Pool
(33:33) Perplexity's Business Model and Subscription Strategy
(39:54) The Future of Search: Personalization and Real-Time Data
(44:21) Enhancing User Engagement with Suggested Next Questions
(48:10) Key Success Metrics and the Importance of Daily Queries
(50:21) The Challenge of Gaining User Trust
(50:48) Personalizing Products for User Engagement
(50:55) Navigating the AI Model Landscape
(51:40) The Strategic Decision Against Building Own Models
(52:22) Leveraging Open Source Models and Infrastructure Efficiency
(53:37) The Business Model and Value Proposition
(58:12) AI's Potential to Transform Work and Empowerment
(01:03:11) The Future of AI: More Compute or Breakthroughs?
(01:05:39) The Startup Ecosystem and AI's Billion-Dollar Potential
(01:07:26) AI Safety and Regulation: A Founder's Perspective
(01:08:15) Inspirations and Influences: Learning from Larry Page
(01:20:51) Building a User-Centric Product: The Perplexity Journey
(01:36:13) The Future of Perplexity and Changing User Habits
Produced: Rashad Assir & Leah Clapper
Mixed and edited: Justin Hrabovsky
Executive Producer: Josh Machiz
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This was a terrific interview. Tons of alpha. Much appreciated. I really like Aravind, and truly wish all the best for Perplexity.
Aravind presents his thesis without all of the hype. This is a CEO I can get behind his vision and trust that he will see it through.
@sweetchinmusic801
2 ай бұрын
Silicon Valley CEOs like Satya Nadella (Microsoft), Sunder Pichai (Google), Aravind Srinivasan (Perplexity AI) etc uses subsidized education (subsizidized by Indian tax payers) from the world famous Indian Institutes of Technology to get their Bachelors degress before migrating to the US. Once they become stalwarts of the tech world, hope they use their clout to help in development of Indian tech and India as a whole rather than being selfish ungrateful dummies who cares just for their own fortune and fame.
@haroldpierre1726
2 ай бұрын
@@sweetchinmusic801 Ouch!! You bring up a great point.
@SM-xj8yf
Ай бұрын
@@sweetchinmusic801 1. Inventions and innovations benefit the mankind 2. China leverages ethnic reasoning like above to recruit spies abroad. 3. Human talent is not zero sum - I am sure there are hundreds among 40 - 70 million recent graduates in India currently unemployed who are smarter than Arvind and some of them will go on to do something that will improve human condition and some of them will be wealthy like Ambani without having to come to the USA.
Such a thoughtful and insightful episode - especially liked hearing about the future of search and Aravind's predicted breakthroughs in AI
I continued to be amazed by perplexity ... the more I use it it truly seems like it's only limited by your own creativity. i am truly amazed
I am a paid Pro user, and I like it. However, it adds a bit of friction if you just want a quick link. I would want the search results to be surfaced even faster before the LLM text even starts. Also, it fails on follow-ups sometimes, as it somewhat loses context, meaning it takes the follow-up as a completely new question. I would like it to be more consistent in keeping it as a thread. Overall, I really like it.
@MatthiasBehrends
2 ай бұрын
Precisely!
@DukeLitoAurelius
2 ай бұрын
OnE of the things I do in my prompts is to break things up in numerical steps and refer back to a specific step to maintain context. I imagine you must be doing something similar but would love to hear how you approach it.
@DA-BROWN-STOIC
2 ай бұрын
I like it too. No need to pay for pro
@expertseries
25 күн бұрын
Yes, would love a mini model to kick out a quick link immediately up front. Is painful waiting sometimes. Is also odd getting used to perplexity search failing next steps at times - “if it sits too long at this step, it’s not going to answer”. Overall very happy as well with pro, amazing platform to test models as the come out, save history in collections etc
@blue10880
25 күн бұрын
Flow state takes time to master for both master and student , process is the key 🦋
One of the few profound visionaries I've heard in 2024. He will win something and he just won 1 new customer who will give perplexity 3 chances.
This guy is sharp. It’s clear he will be an incredibly important player in this industry. Nice job on the interview!
Great questions.Great answers. Thank you for this!
A thoroughly enjoyable hour and a half, surely one of the best and most enlightening interviews on AI available today. Aravind is a Gem to the world. Thank you.
❤ 17:08 thanks for the question!
I like that he talks about hiring a group of people to work on hard problems. And that he doesn’t overpay his people so that they have so much money that they retire and then knowledge base goes out the window.
I LOVE Perplexity! Thank you for creating a fantastic service!
Great response to your question about Perplexity being called a ChatGPT wrapper. Also liked how he said if Perplexity’s customers are paying $20/month and don’t care about what model is being used, why should he?
I love Perplexity far more than Google because the related questions are always great avenues for research.
I’m digging it but I’ve received multiple hallucinations where the links were dead and the info made up. I had another instance where it sent me to links that I specifically requested it not share again because it was not relevant to the question but no matter how many times it acknowledged its mistake it would still send the same bad link. Most of the time it works great. Just would love to see some improvement in these areas.
@designthinkingwithgian
19 күн бұрын
same issues w me
He is so clear in his vision google with AD's has spoiled everything. One of the best AI products i have used. Keep going
Thank you for sharing this. May your day BE filled with more thankfulness, encouragement and forward thinking today....
I enjoyed this episode. Aravind is good.
you guys were great. Avarind i appreciate your openness and wisdom. Do more speaking to clarify the value of Perplexity. It is important that we understand that we are moving into a currency of questions. We will have to educate users to learn how to ask the right questions and overcome our passive acquisition of knowledge of memory driven success.
The product is damn good
wow that was so good
A very open minded individual..very cool guy and a great conversation
Warm solid cuddle of intelligence on a creative philosophical cool ocean air ! So sweet and healthy ! So good to feel the process of humble brilliance grounded in practical action rooted in a relationship between rhythm melody and harmonic diverse progressive grace! I feel very lucky to of heard this pod cast ! Perplexity blew my tiny mind for the love of research and flow state met its match ❤
This guy is amazing!
Google should keep Gemini a separate thing within Google that has a free version of Gemini that has advertisements like KZread commercials or print ads on the page of output. Or people could pay for a paid version with no ads.
How to undo delete thread?
Perplexity is a wrapper over google search
@SiyaMaliChannel
2 ай бұрын
More over GPT-4, but sure…and Google is a wrapper on the internet😅
@jonmichaelgalindo
2 ай бұрын
He's talking about ranking sources; they have to be using a crawl database. Maybe using Google APIs too, but perplexity's links don't match Google's in my queries.
@sweetchinmusic801
2 ай бұрын
Silicon Valley CEOs like Satya Nadella (Microsoft), Sunder Pichai (Google), Aravind Srinivasan (Perplexity AI) etc uses subsidized education (subsizidized by Indian tax payers) from the world famous Indian Institutes of Technology to get their Bachelors degress before migrating to the US. Once they become stalwarts of the tech world, hope they use their clout to help in development of Indian tech and India as a whole rather than being selfish ungrateful dummies who cares just for their own fortune and fame.
@champnik464
2 ай бұрын
@@jonmichaelgalindo sometimes good and sometimes bad
@champnik464
2 ай бұрын
@@sweetchinmusic801 To build a large tech and global product you have to be in the valley
How can i invest in Perplexity? It is phenominal!
I actually had an argument with perplexity the other day about my website not being a real sight... I had to actually tell it to Google the site. It's been getting worse for the past week or so.
It can't answer questions about python dependency errors. 😢 (But no one can.) Also, I've been trying not to use it too much because I didn't want to overload their servers and make them drop the free plan. And here he's trying to grow usage. Derp.
The giant now copies perplexity. Now what ? The unfair advantage of the Goliath, is to be able handle legal hurdles and absorb many errors.
Perplexity is on the rise. Google needs to be distrupted from the ad model. I fear tho all AI companies like this will go ad based eventually as it's way more profitable
Is this like social media without dislike button , keep that to ur self in ur utopian world
Perplexity AI has quietly reduced Claude Opus usage to 50 per 24h
That isn’t likely. I find perplexity gives me old info constantly and I pay for pro.
Bro gained 50 pounds between the thumbnail and the video
As a PRO user of Perplexity, I find the “Related questions” that show up on the bottom distracting and unnecessary. Blank slate = Clear thinking
Why this dude lookin like the king of MIDDLE EARTH!?! 💍
That might be the most aggressive male leg cross over I've ever seen.
All he ever do is talk about Google
@onzurkthewarrior2822
2 ай бұрын
They’re a very relevant topic in what he’s doing…..
Apple will buy them off, 100 billion
Tbh I prefer Krawl AI over Perplexity. It's more work-focused and I can get lot more things done using it because of the "tools" concept they introduced. Plus they are adding new tools to it almost every other week
@khutsohlase243
29 күн бұрын
Just tried it that. Perplexity is objectively much better.
I like the phrase "no gradient" at 1:14:57. I like the idea of move fast and break things but test well and make rolling it into production perhaps reversible, or at least consider the possibility of doing so. Don't avoid risk, but weigh the risk so you don't blow off production or things of extreme value.