Perpetual Battery - Powered By Water

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  • @oldblinddarby2498
    @oldblinddarby24984 жыл бұрын

    This also works if you follow water through the tubes, from one into another, but with a non-conductive section connecting the tubes end to end. This, put in parallel (picture war following through and around a bundle of straws) , with all tubes connected in series using appropriate wire, increases surface area contact and therefore voltage.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    that's interesting mate - cheers

  • @btryba
    @btryba4 жыл бұрын

    After the rubber band battery, I was half expecting Lord Kelvin's Thunderstorm (really cool device). When you view batteries as devices as holding one form of energy and converting it to another, there are lots of batteries in life.

  • @stever197037

    @stever197037

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see the same. I was thinking about doing one. With plastic film to wick water back upwards like a blood test strip does. A wide panel of them so enough water mat reach the top. It would be perpetual energy and motion.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    yep - lots of sources of energy if we look

  • @ronaldd2154

    @ronaldd2154

    4 жыл бұрын

    How about "magnetic" energy stored in magnets? Arranged / setup in such a way to harness it? Very popular "free energy" device 😂..... Im sure there's a way to do it, but no set recipe to follow, and MANY "fake" vids. Not to mention people dissapearing......

  • @DFPercush

    @DFPercush

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ronaldd2154 You could perhaps store energy in a magnetic field, like springloading something, but a magnet is like a mountain, it doesn't produce energy by itself. Things have to move up and down it to do any work.

  • @82NeXus

    @82NeXus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stever197037 Wicking fluid upwards against gravity is capillary action. Look it up and see if you can create a perpetual motion machine of one kind or another out of it...

  • @JeremiahLutherPritchett
    @JeremiahLutherPritchett4 жыл бұрын

    Love it Mr Smith. Genius insightful educational practical applied science. You’re the man thank you for producing such consistently awesome content

  • @preppertechnicianee6013

    @preppertechnicianee6013

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well this isnt practical but it sure as hell is awesome Hopefully a better design will pop up

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate and thanks for taking the time to say so

  • @williamblair1123

    @williamblair1123

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@preppertechnicianee6013 What would you consider a practical invention? Do you have anything to share?

  • @preppertechnicianee6013

    @preppertechnicianee6013

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@williamblair1123 a more efficient version of this As he said this is about experimentation and sharing ideas This is cool It's fun but as said not yet practical possibly will never be Yes I do on my channel Actually

  • @williamblair1123

    @williamblair1123

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@preppertechnicianee6013 Would you send me your link, thanks.

  • @paulmurgatroyd6372
    @paulmurgatroyd63724 жыл бұрын

    It's like Blue Peter for adults.

  • @bryansicard7577
    @bryansicard75774 жыл бұрын

    You’re awesome! Thanks for bringing your curious explorations to the masses. 3:05 so perfectly captures what holds me to this channel; made me smile! Thanks mate, you’re changing my world.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you mate for taking the time to say so

  • @CDinkle
    @CDinkle4 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure you thought of this, but you can increase the amount of surface electrons by increasing the surface area. In this case, using a spring (or coiled wire) with a coil diameter that is equal to the tube diameter, and a gauge diameter that is the same as the tube thickness (OD-ID)/2, would increase the surface area. I ran a quick algebraic comparison of surface areas in MATLAB and it's not very much (~5% increase), but you could probably vary the gauge diameter and coil diameter to get better results.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    I did mate - but that doesn't matter - the posts here are read by folks and the info you posted is shared with the community and that is awesome - thanks for that

  • @spackerinternational6131

    @spackerinternational6131

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering you did think of it or you did try it?

  • @realflow100

    @realflow100

    10 ай бұрын

    Try very thin strips/sheets rolled up together in a spiral roll with a neutral separator like paper towel or something. You'll get enormously higher output current!

  • @ruckuswethepeep4384
    @ruckuswethepeep4384 Жыл бұрын

    So glad I found your channel! Love geeking out on your really cool stuff

  • @MrLiamHenderson
    @MrLiamHenderson Жыл бұрын

    So glad I found your channel. What a treat!

  • @robertlavedas4964
    @robertlavedas49643 жыл бұрын

    Mr Smith, just joined.... Your info is a actual life saver Sir... I am a disabled person and verteran of the USA(PLEASE don't hold that against my person) and on Social Security and due to mistakes made by said well paid US government employees i have no income for almost a year.... And I am going to use this info to build a small power generation system to fund a battery bank that i will offer others a charge for donations so I am no longere dependant on my evil government... To teach a man like me "to fish," means I am most grateful as to the possibility and meeting my needs... I look forward to contributions i hope will aid the group.. As it has aided my person.. Thank you all.

  • @kevindouglas8768
    @kevindouglas87684 жыл бұрын

    That's neat. I like the way you have the parts already assembled in stages ass you describe the build. More YTr's should do that. Keep doing what you're doing Robert :)

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was watching a few how to videos and I got bored watching them drill or saw something as I know how to do that - so I thought I would do the stages thing to stop my vids being boring to me lol

  • @colouroboros9993
    @colouroboros99934 жыл бұрын

    your channel never ceases to amaze! thanks so much for doing what you're doing

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @jasonlawson8619
    @jasonlawson86193 жыл бұрын

    Great video as usual, thank you so much for what you do.

  • @G-ra-ha-m
    @G-ra-ha-m4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting! I used to visit Canterbury fairly often before the plague as I used to live around there. Of course the immediate thought was of a (model) boat with a small motor, and a sufficient number of streamlined blades towed through the water and see it it would carry on going. Thanks for showing us this Robert!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing mate - noice one

  • @G-ra-ha-m

    @G-ra-ha-m

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Redrooster That all depends upon _where_ the energy is coming from. Hooking a cable up to the ionosphere (perhaps building a plasma cable with a giant Tesla coil in WardenClyffe) would give you 'free' energy, but that doesn't mean it comes from nowhere. Water is funny stuff and has a variety of properties that vary with contamination, have a look at this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6yZ1Miskai2idY.html and see what you think. Sometimes boring stuff like water is ignored because we 'know all about it', until (for example) some bright spark has a closer look and discovered it's made of liquid crystals and surface tension can be used by more than pond skater insects. That's why it would be interesting to see a boat powered by it - to find out more about the unknown generation mechanism at work. It could even be a form of 'static' as electrons drift off and get recollected.

  • @victorwitness7414

    @victorwitness7414

    Жыл бұрын

    The blades would create drag. I think it would be better to coat one half of the underside of the boat with copper/brass and the other half with aluminum. With a small neutral strip in between them.

  • @captaindavejseddon8788
    @captaindavejseddon8788 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant experiment, love it. It could be used as a flow rate sensor maybe or a trickle charger, nav light generator for boats. I live on a cruiser so I'm going to make some of these.

  • @SamMonkulas
    @SamMonkulas4 жыл бұрын

    Bravo Mr. Murray. You seem to be the incarnate of late Robert Murray of 1960s who developed Electricity to power a house straight from his briefcase size power plant weighing not more than DVD player. This stuff that you just showed is a million dollar project already. Great 👍 job Sir.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate

  • @TheDaievans1
    @TheDaievans14 жыл бұрын

    That was amazing, really glad I've found you, my love of all things scientific is impressed by you every time, thank you so much

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you!

  • @TheDaievans1

    @TheDaievans1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering Genuinely thank you. I'm a 55 year old guy living as part of a typical nuclear family, and your videos have been my salvation during lockdown, you need your own tv show 👍

  • @sarchlalaith8836
    @sarchlalaith88364 жыл бұрын

    And this is why I'm subscribed, because this is brilliant. Looking forward to your replication of his radio running rig, with efficiency in modern electrics being what it is you might be able to run led lights in your home. Love the channel, never miss a video, making the otherwise exclusory jargon relatable to everyone is a gift you have Robert. Hey what happened with your chlorophyll battery stuff that you found more efficient than graphene?

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate

  • @martinvanbrabant9374

    @martinvanbrabant9374

    Жыл бұрын

    love it

  • @matsveritas2055
    @matsveritas20553 жыл бұрын

    I knew I would find a video of you trying this! :D I have been fiddling with the idea of producing current from the EZ zone of water, I'm glad I get to see a trusted source.

  • @matsveritas2055

    @matsveritas2055

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ok, so... enclose the water container with a hydrophilic material, like dry rice, or a sponge, put a copper coil along the walls of the water container (the Exclusion Zone "EZ"), this is your negative connector, and a copper wire suspended into the center of the container (the Bulk Zone), this is your positive connector, the motion of electrons occurs because of the mysterious social relationship of the water molecule (the least comprehended of the known molecules in chemistry). This should produce amps without you having to add motion, the motion is passively attracted by the hydrophilic material surrounding the water container. Give it a try. :)

  • @Infinion

    @Infinion

    5 ай бұрын

    @@matsveritas2055 Glad to see someone making the connection to Gerald Pollack's work here. Have you seen any other notable apparatuses since then?

  • @microlabs8402
    @microlabs84023 жыл бұрын

    Damn, i came for music this time amd you are so interesting i watched this first. Thanks, you are doing a wonderful work and it motivates me to continue learning and doing similar things as you do. Wish i had the opportunity to know you or even find you earlier on yt in my life but it's never late and i am gratefull for all the knowledge zou provide and that you show the world that sharing free is normal and humane.

  • @grantaum9677
    @grantaum96774 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant! Glad I was recommended this channel

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    glad you liked it mate - cheers

  • @jaminoes_
    @jaminoes_4 жыл бұрын

    I like watching his videos because knowledge is imparted while surrounded by grimy tools and instruments. It is awesome. :D

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol - I work at it mate not just think about it - cheers

  • @jaminoes_

    @jaminoes_

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering I'm not complaining. :) Keep doing what you do!

  • @robertjames1259

    @robertjames1259

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering Thanks Robert

  • @peterleyland6996
    @peterleyland69964 жыл бұрын

    Lovely, thanks for doing the leg work. I am wondering what happens in sea water?

  • @2dbuy

    @2dbuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let the motion of the ocean do the work.

  • @rismaelfumero
    @rismaelfumero3 ай бұрын

    Sincere condolences for such a huge loss. If ever you need a little vacation in Tenerife Pls contact an old follower And fan of your awesome teachings.

  • @breezer1788
    @breezer17884 жыл бұрын

    Great, as usual. Thanks again Robert.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate

  • @tdtrecordsmusic
    @tdtrecordsmusic4 жыл бұрын

    I noticed the same thing years back working with scariac's. I just used the mag stir bar. Plus, I thought I had same material for both electrodes. Stainless probably. My research papers in that stint were melted by a flood = gone. However, I do remember that my hypothesis is that the effect is due to the triboelectric effect/static. Was planning on using pipes to explore further. Consider a 2 legged experiment where one set was using PVC couplings(series) and one set using parallel paths with T-couplings. Conductive pipes with liquid running inside, separated by non-conductive couplings. That notion eludes to yet another hypothesis: There is likely a 'micro-organization' in the fluid which is short circuiting b/c we cannot make wires out of soup. Hence potential will not build b/c there is no separation to create the potential 'difference'

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think you are son the right lines there mate

  • @codedesigns9284
    @codedesigns92842 жыл бұрын

    Excellent demonstration and very insightful. Does the distance between the brass and aluminum (delta) increase or decrease the overall output current? How about the length of the tubes? This has great “potential”!

  • @oldblinddarby2498
    @oldblinddarby24984 жыл бұрын

    This is great, it's a basic and eloquent example of anode/cathode reactions. Try experimenting with different surface areas, rod shapes and relative geometries, rod proximity, water ph, solutes in water, and different metals for the rods.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    watch the other videos mate

  • @sethblack5309
    @sethblack5309 Жыл бұрын

    I like the kind of work you do. I have a lot of ideas in this category

  • @uncledodge9396
    @uncledodge93964 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your videos, as covid has left me without employment I'm finding loads of different things to occupy my time with, and as a top licence holder for Ham Radio I do have a good little workshop and plenty of electrical supplies so my poor bank account doesn't get hurt too much! Keep up the good work sir, I look forward to the next video! Note, just wondering if one of these 'batteries' could be made on a larger scale and dropped into a river behind a moored float? that would be interesting.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    it would be mate have a read at the patent - that should help answer your question and maybe give a bit of direction

  • @3dpchiron709
    @3dpchiron7094 жыл бұрын

    Wondering if the water was in a sealed chamber at (or close to) vacuum, might it require less heating up (since boiling point reduces along with lower pressure)? Also, when you mentioned the importance of flow directionality in the river it made me think of the ion wind effect.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    nice thought mate

  • @hiddenchambers2922
    @hiddenchambers29224 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely amazing!! Thx for sharing!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @valveman12
    @valveman124 жыл бұрын

    That was very interesting and worth a closer look...Great job on the confirmation.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @sofa-lofa4241
    @sofa-lofa42414 жыл бұрын

    Cool, I would love to see the plate version, Would be interesting to see what you could produce with a large surface area

  • @DanielSMatthews

    @DanielSMatthews

    4 жыл бұрын

    Try open-cell aluminium foam and copper foam with the copper foam having been soaked in molten zinc to infuse the surface and convert it to brass.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    give it a go mate

  • @robertjames1259

    @robertjames1259

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes give it a gaggle. Battery

  • @robertjames1259

    @robertjames1259

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love your down to nature analog s And love your laugh out load. Get er it. Done As you do

  • @samuelthomasengardio

    @samuelthomasengardio

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering Just built a pretty sophisticated plate version. It produces 5Ma, water velocity hasn't amounted to a relevant variable. Short circuit voltage is 0.137 volts. I really think I'm missing something here.

  • @strongforce8466
    @strongforce84664 жыл бұрын

    super cool..and I was just wondering about the chemical/physical reaction, very strange I had the feeling water is generating static electricity ! also what was your reading in the river it was hard to see? can't wait for follow ups!

  • @Enngel0
    @Enngel03 жыл бұрын

    This is just great... Thanks! Do you think it would work in an Archimedes screw? Can the aluminum coating of the CDs be used as negative?

  • @cherilynnfisher5658
    @cherilynnfisher5658 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Robert!

  • @puttingtechniques
    @puttingtechniques2 жыл бұрын

    Great vid again😁 just wondering if it works in a saline / salt water environment. We live on an Island with a tidal movement of 30-40 metres and tidal speeds in estuaries can reach 10 knots plus. We can use this lower easily 😁✌️❤️🤘

  • @xspotbox4400
    @xspotbox44004 жыл бұрын

    My favorite alchemist channel :)

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol - awesome mate

  • @xspotbox4400

    @xspotbox4400

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@ThinkingandTinkering Sincere respect, your channel has immense educational value. Nobody knows what electricity is, but you Mr. Murray-Smith might be one of few people alive who understand what it can do.

  • @adamloomis7682
    @adamloomis76823 жыл бұрын

    I'll be watching you more and yes I do enjoy. Thank you

  • @renadog1
    @renadog14 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic, Love it, where were you, Robert in my youth? But thanks for being able to do all your stuff with my grandchildren. Next best thing! Get them off their gaming addiction. Thanks again, love it.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    for sure mate cheers

  • @lastfirst5689
    @lastfirst56894 жыл бұрын

    My mind goes crazy with possibilities after watching Robert's vids then I remember I'm not super brainy like Robert

  • @debently1131
    @debently11314 жыл бұрын

    Makes me wonder if something like that could be applied to moving air to produce a charge like electrostatic air filters that use a pollimer screen to ionize the passing air as it's fluid medium 👍 Strips of brass screen and aluminum screen at a slight angle on your device may improve ion charge transfer.

  • @HostileRespite

    @HostileRespite

    2 жыл бұрын

    Put them in a solar furnace to enhance the effect and heat your home at the same time for bonus points maybe? Heat often amps up static buildup due to friction of the air molecules. Ideally, your screens would pick up and redirect all the ionization out the electrical cables before entering the home though. 😂🤣

  • @Wanttono
    @Wanttono4 жыл бұрын

    thank you for sharing the knowledge brother

  • @Machiuka
    @Machiuka4 жыл бұрын

    Jawdropping experiment. Super interesting. Thanks mate. You never stop to amaze me. :)

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it mate - cheers

  • @ArtII2Long
    @ArtII2Long4 жыл бұрын

    Everything said and shown was technically correct ... almost. I wish he had reported the results of the final battery; voltage and current. He showed a number but I couldn't tell if it was microamps or millivolts. I admit that battery will last a long time, but not forever.

  • @ThisTall

    @ThisTall

    4 жыл бұрын

    So because you couldn’t see the number displayed, he wasn’t technically correct? Lol Are you the final arbiter of absolute truth and fact? Cause you sure talk like you are. Maybe you’re much more confident then you should be.

  • @Tore_Lund

    @Tore_Lund

    3 жыл бұрын

    The scale was mA, so he was getting around 1 Amp! Which is impressive. However No Words in the voltage, not in the patent either? IT might be possible to connect these cells in series in the same body of water, if They are far enough apart, like a spiky cable, with electrodes Pairs sticking out every foot? The you just have ten feet of cable to lay in a stream for power in your camp!

  • @webtrekkeruk2487

    @webtrekkeruk2487

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tore_Lund No. The scale was *micro* amps so he was getting only around 1mA current.

  • @LeftyLucyRightyTyty
    @LeftyLucyRightyTyty4 жыл бұрын

    This is really awesome....wondering if the effect can be observed with a different fluid.....oh, I don't know...maybe, AIR?

  • @peterlang777

    @peterlang777

    4 жыл бұрын

    See umass amherst protein nanowire battery

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    have a read at the patent mate - that should help answer your question

  • @DFPercush

    @DFPercush

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think it needs to be a conductive fluid.

  • @illkidusa4045
    @illkidusa40453 жыл бұрын

    Hello sir! You are the a huge instant inspiration.

  • @BakamonNO
    @BakamonNO4 жыл бұрын

    Thank's for sharing mate. That was pretty cool :)

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @hoverhead047
    @hoverhead0474 жыл бұрын

    What would happen if you connected those "cells" in series instead of parallel?

  • @TheBaconWizard

    @TheBaconWizard

    4 жыл бұрын

    that was series.

  • @klincecum

    @klincecum

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBaconWizard look again

  • @TheBaconWizard

    @TheBaconWizard

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@klincecum Beg pardon, quite correct..

  • @TheJunkyardgenius
    @TheJunkyardgenius4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting! How many amps and volts did they larger 8 block version make? It would be interesting to have a half or full sheet of polystyrene insulation as a flotation device in the river tethered to the edge with hundreds of rows of these the full width of the sheet to see how much power could be produced and does an increased flow generate more power.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    I milliamp, 5.1 kOhm - V=IR will give volts mate

  • @sideswipe147

    @sideswipe147

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what I was thinking...

  • @sideswipe147

    @sideswipe147

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering so roughly 1.96x10 -⁰⁰⁷ volts seems rediculously small unless I'm just not doing the math right. Me and electricity math don't seem to get on well.

  • @HomeMadeCnc
    @HomeMadeCnc4 жыл бұрын

    Thank's again for the Education, Robert.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am glad you found it interesting mate

  • @MerwinARTist
    @MerwinARTist4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that demonstration .. I actually did something like that several years back but with plates of stainless .. package sat in the creek but I didn't have you to brighten my mind. :-)

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    you should revisit that mate

  • @MerwinARTist

    @MerwinARTist

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering I still own the property where the creek flows .. but I live 25 miles away .. so a little less convenient. I have ponds where I live now .. but thanks for the encouragement. I'll put it in my to do notes and see what develops. If I remember right .. I also took a car battery .. and opened it up on the sides .. so the water could flow through. It seemed to have generated some energy .. but I couldn't say how much at this time. :-)

  • @chemprofdave
    @chemprofdave4 жыл бұрын

    You never showed the voltage? And if water flow is so important, what happens to the cell when you take it to the stream and change the orientation? I would appreciate a graph of angle vs. voltage and/or current to support the notion that flow direction is relevant. Also, with a current of 20 micro amps it would take many weeks if not years of operation to see any change to the electrodes. A calculation suggests that in some six YEARS of operation you would change the electrode mass by ... one gram.

  • @PressToDigitate
    @PressToDigitate4 жыл бұрын

    If the movement of the water is the operative element; "ditch the ditch", with Heron's Fountain: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iY2izsR_lJebhps.html As with combining your Carbon-based Evaporative Charge Separation with Kelvin's Thunderstorm, there is a way to improve on the one side of the process, by adding the other side. Numerous configurations of Heron's Fountain (and Boyle's) are documented on KZread, with improvements that portend keeping them in an Open Cycle state; i.e. 'perpetual'. It certainly seems a natural fit, if what is really going on is charge exchange with the passing ions in solution. This could be tested with Deionized Water, as opposed to Tap Water (and further enhanced with electrolytes).

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    nice ideas mate - thanks for sharing

  • @btryba

    @btryba

    4 жыл бұрын

    In response to David: You won't ever get anything "perpetual". Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Kelvin's water dropper uses gravity to separate charges in water. Heron's fountain uses gravity to build pressure to push water up. The closest you'll get is by converting matter into energy, but the government's of the world prefer that common citizens refrain from nuclear endeavors. Robert's use of "perpetual" is correct. The device will exist perpetually minus the natural decay of the materials but that will take a long time.

  • @PressToDigitate

    @PressToDigitate

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@btryba Energy can be extracted from the ambient environment - including, in particular, the Quantum Vacuum - "perpetually", if one creates an Open System. Mating Kelvin's Water Dropper with the Evaporative Charge Separator which Rob previously demonstrated would represent a system in 'perpetual motion', with gravity and ambient heat (including solar) furnishing unlimited free energy inputs to the system.

  • @nancysmith9487
    @nancysmith94874 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate your home work and scientific research and evidence that it works... also your tutorial/ education. Definitely learn, Mr. Clark/clock on his findings. Happy belated 4th of July

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    and to you - cheers

  • @ryanlebeck259
    @ryanlebeck2593 жыл бұрын

    Would you be able to salvage energy from a hydraulic ram pump using this device, and do you think a trompe would boost yield?

  • @GEBrown
    @GEBrown4 жыл бұрын

    Kinda makes one want build one's house beside a river!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol - yep

  • @peterlang777

    @peterlang777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Van down by the river! Skip the house ! :-)

  • @remoconan8720

    @remoconan8720

    4 жыл бұрын

    Build your house on a pontoon with an array of these under the water. Also the pontoon with a layering system of piezo electric crystals in an array then the floor to cover the crystals, all is needed is the river motion and if you are walking on the floor for the compression to press on the crystals.Two energy generating systems. Also you could create a turbine system upstream combined with the whirlpool effect with mini magnetic pipe fans designed around the Tesla turbine, which seems to push water out of a pipe really fast. Additionally an array of these downstream from the aforementioned Tesla turbine which pushes a jet stream of water out to flow past these devices. Then you have solar array on your roof combined with a wind turbine, added to wind turbine Robert's earlier work with reverse magnetic speaker coils generating energy from the movement of wind on a vibrating reed. Also my favourite that is already produced is the Gravilights, they are on KZread, a wonderful lighting system.

  • @glenhac5973

    @glenhac5973

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@remoconan8720 what you got there is hair raising house boat! Won't need to comb your hair in the morning! It will otomaticaly stand!

  • @0isay

    @0isay

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@remoconan8720 Great ideas! I suspect, however, that piezos will break all the time, breaking the circuit. You'd need bypass diodes, I guess.

  • @SteveEh
    @SteveEh4 жыл бұрын

    To cool, how do you do it every day? Thanks for the video

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    I sleep only 3-4 hours lol

  • @strongforce8466

    @strongforce8466

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering and you're not tired 😮? I thought we needed 7-8hrs to properly "recharge our batteries" lol

  • @iansanders9327
    @iansanders9327 Жыл бұрын

    It strikes me that the heating scenario means this is simply a thermocouple? It is well known that two dissimilar metals in electrical contact when heated generate a microcurrent. The flow option is by far more interesting for potential generation applications I think - it's a water wheel with no moving parts! Love your use of the nylon blocks, I use them constantly for my own tinkering. Great video, many thanks.

  • @carlofavaretto5598
    @carlofavaretto55982 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Robert

  • @johncurran1179
    @johncurran11794 жыл бұрын

    You have a book or something with all this research ?

  • @tommytigert5993

    @tommytigert5993

    4 жыл бұрын

    Definitely should

  • @sofa-lofa4241

    @sofa-lofa4241

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can search for patents online, Another good source, which is used by Rob a lot, is old research papers, there are lots of forgotten ideas and observations going right back to 1800's and beyond

  • @The411

    @The411

    4 жыл бұрын

    Robert uses scholar.google.com/

  • @tommytigert5993

    @tommytigert5993

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sofa-lofa4241 cool good pointers thanks.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    I put it all on youtube mate - it's the resource of the 21st century

  • @williamjohnson1264
    @williamjohnson12644 жыл бұрын

    You are a busy man, things just keep on coming out of that active mind ! I was wondering ..would a more electrolitic medium , like salt water in tide flows produce more result ?... just a thought, great stuff, thumbs up!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    have a read at the patent mate - that should help answer your question

  • @sebastianstewart6894

    @sebastianstewart6894

    2 жыл бұрын

    The patent mentions lord Kelvin using that.

  • @thelement3363
    @thelement33633 жыл бұрын

    always makes me smile and think about what if. my favorite!

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst28784 жыл бұрын

    I am just amazed that this works. The bummer part is that you only get micro amount. Would be nice to see a 2.0 version make true volts. Good day and peace too Sir Robert . VF

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    you should read the patent mate

  • @marioflavin2141
    @marioflavin21414 жыл бұрын

    Earlier Coment was Aluminium was down stream

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    have a read at the patent mate - that should help

  • @ArtII2Long

    @ArtII2Long

    4 жыл бұрын

    As far as I can tell it shouldn't make any difference.

  • @j.r5854

    @j.r5854

    3 жыл бұрын

    Straight from the patent (emphasis mine): ". Both electrodes 8 and 10 are of the same size and shape, and are immersed to a depth of about inch in the water. Where electrode 8 was copper and electrode 10 carbon, the measured current in load circuit 4 was 17 microamperes. Where both electrodes were brass, the measured current in load circuit 4 was 25 microamperes. Where and electrode 10 brass, the measured current in load circuit 4 was 43 microamperes."

  • @Yaman-D-Chhaya
    @Yaman-D-Chhaya2 жыл бұрын

    Rob Sir, I would seriously love to try the same setup using copper and aluminium, both are good conductors they surely should produce some great results awesome video Rob Sir, Love and very warm regards from India 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @goaskdra
    @goaskdra2 жыл бұрын

    bravo. always stimulating !

  • @aomanchutube
    @aomanchutube4 жыл бұрын

    Robert, we had a similar device for detecting water flow in certain vehicle that I may or may not have worked on. Our was also a level sensor and had some internal electronics.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    interesting mate - what was the vehicle ?

  • @aomanchutube

    @aomanchutube

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering it was a hybrid bus. We needed a level sensor that didn't depend on floats and switches. A guy came up to us with a prototype, we liked it and started using it in all our production buses. Suddenly the guy passed away and there was no one to make them anymore. He had not patented this. It worked on a single probe and I think it was brass. The second probe ofcourse was actually the engine which was aluminum.

  • @dremaboy777
    @dremaboy7774 жыл бұрын

    Well, time to treat the materials to increase the surface area - and boom

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    for sure mate - and - have a read at the patent - that should help and give a bit of direction

  • @VacuumTube88
    @VacuumTube884 жыл бұрын

    This is really an interesting fenomenon, even the "basic" non heated one (eccept for the ambient heat) generates a current, it's fascinating, I love your videos

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate

  • @bblrip3690
    @bblrip36904 жыл бұрын

    You've been a busy man lately, ha ha ha ; ) Thank you!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    You bet! lol

  • @danirizary6926
    @danirizary6926 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this great video:)

  • @danf4447
    @danf4447 Жыл бұрын

    i like how you build and test ideas most others just postulate

  • @JohnBoen
    @JohnBoen4 жыл бұрын

    Robert, I initially skipped your rubberband refirgeratior video because I have seen someone else do it. But... you added so much to that discussion that was not in the other videos... my mistake. Again, I was familiar with this topic, but but you made me think in a different way. That is the value you add. This is what I have grown to expect from you, and i do not expect that from many people.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    I understand that mate and appreciate it too - thanks for taking the time to say so

  • @branni6538
    @branni65382 жыл бұрын

    What's the reading on the meter please? I can't view this in anything above 240 on KZread quality selector. Is it putting out anything around a whole amp or volt/volts??? Thanx

  • @alexbrown4023
    @alexbrown40234 жыл бұрын

    Do you know what the conductivity was of the tap water and river water? In that area of the uk I imagine it’s reasonably low. I also suspect this will impact the effectiveness of the cell.

  • @Slider2732
    @Slider27324 жыл бұрын

    Aluminium and brass hmm, will try it. Nephilim Penny here is a uA blocking oscillator (twin large pancake coils) and flashing LED output. She's been running since 2011 on water, for the last 2 years on melted snow. Galv steel and copper would see the steel rot after 3 months... but with tiny bits taken from a 10ft x 6ft sheet it'll last forever lol. Used to shake it to gain power, which links with this. Also, it picks up when the sun shines through the kitchen window onto the pills bottle water container, another link. Will try out the Al and brass :)

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    that is awesome work mate - thanks for sharing

  • @TheCrakkle
    @TheCrakkle Жыл бұрын

    @Robert Murray-Smith what happens if you use the stirrer instead of heater, also what about distilled/ deionised water?

  • @DrBretPalmer
    @DrBretPalmer Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how much of an increase you would get if you added salt? Or would it become corrosive? Looks like I'll be putting this together myself 😀

  • @mikeflight9
    @mikeflight94 жыл бұрын

    That is amazing. Just a thought. It could be attached to the rear of a boat, probably a motorboat, with the aluminum facing toward the front of the boat. if it was large enough you could run electric equipment on board your boat. Great video, and great invention. 👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸👌

  • @paulfrost8952

    @paulfrost8952

    Жыл бұрын

    On a house boat fine, but for a sailing/motor boat the drag would be a problem I think!

  • @borium
    @borium2 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting ,thanks for sharing ,i wonder if you put this in an air tight container and added co2 if the bubbles would move the water enough to create a voltage.

  • @Kopie0830

    @Kopie0830

    Жыл бұрын

    Dew it and post a video mate. - Palpatine

  • @leoeuden7559
    @leoeuden75594 жыл бұрын

    Really fascinating application for harvesting energy Rob, thank you for this. So that's earth, wind and water power generation covered 😉

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    still got the sea mate lol

  • @leoeuden7559

    @leoeuden7559

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering I thought you'd covered that with the magnesium salt battery? 😉

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@leoeuden7559 well sort of I suppose lol

  • @professorfukyu744

    @professorfukyu744

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fire was the stirling motor.

  • @TabishTabby
    @TabishTabby10 ай бұрын

    I have noticed, while at the workshop you mentioned Brass is upstream and Aluminium is downstream. However, you switched it up when experimenting by the river. I don't think that matters much as the results is pretty small. Thank you for making videos on electricity, I have been fascinated with it since I was a kid.

  • @kelstorm2545
    @kelstorm2545Ай бұрын

    Stunning i just love it.

  • @zafod101
    @zafod101 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Rob, I was just wondering what reading you would get if the water was in an ultrasonic cleaner.👍

  • @williamarmstrong7199
    @williamarmstrong71994 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff. My thinking is put it in the water outflow from a water powered generator such a turbine or water wheel to increase efficency from waste water. Perhaps to power the control and communication system?

  • @sollykhan2385
    @sollykhan2385 Жыл бұрын

    quite 'Electrifying ' Thank you for sharing 🙂

  • @cjdonaldson8536
    @cjdonaldson85364 жыл бұрын

    We have a constantly flowing stream where we live but I have a very limited understanding of electricity so I guess I should start playing. Thanks for the inspiration.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    You should mate - for sure

  • @barabolak
    @barabolak4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting! Thanks for sharing

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @MathieuDeVinois
    @MathieuDeVinois4 жыл бұрын

    That’s somehow awesome. I wonder if it works smaller and how much energy it would produce using it on your tap. As one normally needs to reduce the pressure anyway it could gain some energy back wich would be lost anyway....

  • @adesign5
    @adesign52 жыл бұрын

    3 parts seem to always be required for electricity. This and the paper method both has water as the main part. The sun for solar, motion for generators, the acid or whatever for batteries. Water for whatever this is lol i love it because it will change the books on what electricity is

  • @terrylegrosbisson1177
    @terrylegrosbisson11773 жыл бұрын

    i was hoping to see, that if when you turned the device 180degrees to the river flow... does it stop making a voltage or lessen it's effectiveness?

  • @CUBETechie
    @CUBETechie3 жыл бұрын

    If you have hard water would it make any differences? I suppose higher energy output. What if you use hot boiling tab water?

  • @DFPercush
    @DFPercush4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if they make brass and aluminum wool like they do with steel. Or scouring pads. Maybe even a mesh bag full of machine chips. More surface area would surely mean more current, right? As long as you don't totally block the flow of water.

  • @Trefuckor963
    @Trefuckor9632 жыл бұрын

    Is there a way u can constantly disrupt the water by submerging a magnet with the anodes and moving that magnet within the water creating the waters movement

  • @JesusSaves86AB
    @JesusSaves86AB4 жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely brilliant.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    4 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate

  • @igorkovinski7713
    @igorkovinski77132 жыл бұрын

    Hi Smith, what about using two rods of different surface? Like in an asymmetric condenser

  • @NeonblueIndustries
    @NeonblueIndustries Жыл бұрын

    It would be best to keep the metals as similar as possible, because every time you change the metal (aluminum to copper and brass to copper) you create a dielectric junction. Not much, but when you are after as much power from passive devices such as this you need AS LITTLE voltage drop as possible. Buss the bars with the same metals would be best. Awesome video Rob. Love your channel mate!

  • @wendyhughes2234
    @wendyhughes22343 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. I hope my husband will actually take the time to attempt this experiment. I sent him a copy of this video- hoping he will try it.

  • @mitchellbuzzard6666
    @mitchellbuzzard6666 Жыл бұрын

    Would copper work as well or worse than brass...I was considering trying this with just a condenser from an old AC or what-not..

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