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My second ever game in Eagle and at this point I can only laugh.
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  • @darkhawk4863
    @darkhawk48632 жыл бұрын

    Nah, 350k is totally fine for a class against which there's absolutely no counter-play. Totally fair, and I'm sure it'll be incredibly fun to be in games with these things. That Conqueror and that Kurfurst? Probably can't even express in words how much fun they had.

  • @Legendendear

    @Legendendear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Super CVs are just immune to everything. At least other super ships should have a chance against them, which they don't

  • @ainumahtar

    @ainumahtar

    2 жыл бұрын

    YoU cAn ShOoT pLaNeS dOwN. Also just dodge. /s

  • @eliasnilsson6604

    @eliasnilsson6604

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its a pity they were so against the few players using a CV and 2 BBs to snipe the other CV at the start of the game. Because Balans!

  • @pit9555

    @pit9555

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ainumahtar dodge, you are talking abou the 2 neurons community man, this is impossible for their little brains

  • @ainumahtar

    @ainumahtar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pit9555 True, going forward/reverse and stopping is hard enough, better complain about the autopilot instead of figuring out what your rudder is for

  • @northernzeus768
    @northernzeus7682 жыл бұрын

    Yesterday… I was burned down in my Kremlin by a Eagle in the first 4 minutes of the match. I shot my main guns 5 times and did 19k damage. I cannot tell you how fun and engaging that was.

  • @alexanderzack3720

    @alexanderzack3720

    2 жыл бұрын

    i figured out wargaming´s plan: they want to maximize the amount of games we play.... so they introduce op ships so that we spend less time in a single game and instead go right back into another game

  • @Matthew10950

    @Matthew10950

    2 жыл бұрын

    But what did the spreadsheet say??

  • @alexanderzack3720

    @alexanderzack3720

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Matthew10950 spreadsheet says people play more games since we introduced ship... so introduction was good plan

  • @Matthew10950

    @Matthew10950

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexanderzack3720 ah, in soviet Russia, sheet spreads you!

  • @alexanderzack3720

    @alexanderzack3720

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Matthew10950 that sounds painful

  • @freno72
    @freno722 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what the game needs! - Said no sane person ever.

  • @kuddles29

    @kuddles29

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly why people quit the game.

  • @archiaylien9650
    @archiaylien96502 жыл бұрын

    you guys remember those ww2 related questions, "can 1 modern carrier beat the entire german navy?" this is what war gaming is doing, they wanted to know the answers so bad that they introduced these stupid ships

  • @gunnest6939

    @gunnest6939

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZmtotLRqdbfNqc4.html Close enough an example, Binkov must have inspired WarGaming to recreate the movie "Final Countdown".

  • @Bonde7280

    @Bonde7280

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you saying that modern carriers actually DO have a planefactory within it?

  • @mierzhen

    @mierzhen

    2 жыл бұрын

    guess they haven't heard of DCS World

  • @repaleonhalo9754

    @repaleonhalo9754

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I saw a video of a modern CV vs IJN Navy. The F18 Hornets with anti ship missiles will wreck just about all of them. The 1 carrier has enough ammo to detroy them all. It was a CV with escort ships in the video, So it did have some help. But the point was that no Japanese ship ever saw them over the Horizon

  • @land_and_air1250

    @land_and_air1250

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Bonde7280 they do have antiship missles to take out ships over the horizon in one shot for ships of that age

  • @DevSolar
    @DevSolar2 жыл бұрын

    2:46 "He brought his scout plane instead of a fighter" -- because you get utility out of a scout plane, while a fighter is a wasted consumable. You don't stop the strike group, you don't scare the CV player, you achieve nothing with a fighter. That is not even figuring in that it would be a T9 cruiser's fighter against a supercarrier's strike planes. See 14:58... Right now carriers are something that you can just stoically endure. There *is* nothing you can do. Tell the player to f*** off after the third or fourth strike, and sometimes they have mercy. Sometimes they just focus you EXTRA hard though. {shrug}

  • @Legendendear

    @Legendendear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. Thats why I am playing ranked as my main mode-hardly any CV players

  • @roukos7

    @roukos7

    2 жыл бұрын

    He always mocks scout planes cause he doesn't know how to use them. He thinks its only for the extra range.

  • @eiresby2344

    @eiresby2344

    2 жыл бұрын

    fighter planes is useless consumable. They just see the enemy CV squadron flying around and dont do any sh*t about them, even after all strike from enemy squadron then they start to attack when already recalled

  • @IIIJG52

    @IIIJG52

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@roukos7 but..but.,..crossshots over islands or blindfiring in smoke ?

  • @Robert53area

    @Robert53area

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@roukos7 I always took scout plane, especially double scout plane. Plunging fire, extra range, last linger than radar, can spot torps and ships. Just significantly better

  • @Seppe1106
    @Seppe11062 жыл бұрын

    Flambass farmed the big pp damage, the enemy cv actually helped his team focus valuable targets. Both playstyles show the stupidness of those CVs. They can do everything and ruin the game..only subs are worse lol

  • @Arisudev

    @Arisudev

    2 жыл бұрын

    Flambass only wanted to know the strength of the plane. He isn't a CV main anyway. You can see in this game he was only figuring out how to play. Obviously he would want to strike the easiest targets first to observe the impact.

  • @soernsen1

    @soernsen1

    2 жыл бұрын

    True. If he had gone for the Kleber, the Shima would have taken b back and could have pushed south much more

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, the only difference between those 2 play styles are the impact on your own team, bc for the enemy you are still pain. At least half the players in the match are not having fun with a CV present, and there are always one on each side, so *no one* is having fun with CVs present, except the CVs themselves. But yeah, they are fine...

  • @JbZeta

    @JbZeta

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would say subs are far better since they're boring as fuck and you can directly damage them without wasting 2-3 minutes chasing them to the corner of the map

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JbZeta wait until good players learn how to use them. They are too a pain in the ass, although I wouldn't say they are worse than CVs, for me they are the same crap.

  • @QuanTzu
    @QuanTzu2 жыл бұрын

    The thing is while Flambass shows how can this ship do in the hands of very good players this is actually a very bad play for the team. Like enemy Kleber with little HP was behind the island and proxy spotting Des Moines, he went for Conquerer insteead. Enemy eagle went for Shima.

  • @teunw6699

    @teunw6699

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, but to be fair 11 of his teammates managed to sink 6 enemy ships

  • @siddharthrm6385

    @siddharthrm6385

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Kan and fellow captains , may I know what proxy spotting means plz ? sorry I don't know . Is it when your so close to the enemy the detected sign letting you know that your ship's detected changes to "detected" but with a yellow triangle around it or ?

  • @Legendendear

    @Legendendear

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@siddharthrm6385 2KM spotting. If you are 2km or closer to an red ship, you both are spotted.

  • @siddharthrm6385

    @siddharthrm6385

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Legendendear was guessing so . Thanks , now I know for sure .

  • @Legendendear

    @Legendendear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats what I noticed as well. He didn't really play around his team. What he did was farming dmg. (351k is absolutely bonkers btw)

  • @floridamanstrikesagain6915
    @floridamanstrikesagain69152 жыл бұрын

    They added afterburner effect to Gloster Meteor ignoring that it never had it in the first place. Classic WG.

  • @StarkRaven59

    @StarkRaven59

    2 жыл бұрын

    History is merely a suggestion.

  • @questionmaker5666

    @questionmaker5666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nor did they fly from carriers.

  • @santiagoperez2094

    @santiagoperez2094

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didnt saw combat to start with.

  • @thehumanoddity

    @thehumanoddity

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@questionmaker5666 A few Mk. IIIs were modified with landing hooks and trialed, but they were unarmed in testing and were ultimately not adopted.

  • @questionmaker5666

    @questionmaker5666

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thehumanoddity Didn't know that. I guess with jets being new they needed to see if they could work off of carriers.

  • @damiank9311
    @damiank93112 жыл бұрын

    I love that its so balanced, both Eagles where top XP on thier teams.

  • @CatOfSchroedinger
    @CatOfSchroedinger2 жыл бұрын

    10:37 "I wish my team would not suck so bad" - says the CV player ignoring all the pings and the cries for help at B cap. Poor DesMoines player. You were watching the other monitor. bruh !

  • @ronanwaring3408

    @ronanwaring3408

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea flew past a couple of 1/2 health dd's could have wiped them out, arguably the best ship killers in the game still especially in expert hands

  • @Hynnin
    @Hynnin2 жыл бұрын

    So let me get this straight: WG had too much fun with that halloween event with those absolutely broken ships and thought theyd be a great addition into normal play? Id have no complaints if they put 10x10 "superships" against each other, that would be fine as a separate game mode

  • @Nick-rs5if

    @Nick-rs5if

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, "Superships" *cough* tier 11's *cough* aren't meant for normal game modes. Same story goes with Subs, they'd be great in a PvE, or PvP Ops format perhaps.

  • @lmaniac58

    @lmaniac58

    2 жыл бұрын

    On the PTS, the Matchmaker did actually place Super ships vs only Superships at some points during the test, mostly me and bots vs other bots, but that was fun, but with the normal ship? No..it's not that fun, at least with the other superships they are just bigger HP pools and whatnot, they didn't feel OP or anything, but once I tried the CV's that was a different story, they are broken...

  • @michaelreid5307
    @michaelreid53072 жыл бұрын

    You should have prioritised that low hp DD your teammate was pinging. Edit - having watched the full video, the cv player in the other team was far more skilled - rather than chasing dmg done he contributed to his team’s success.

  • @ColCurtis
    @ColCurtis2 жыл бұрын

    Dropping torpedoes from jets going full speed it very realistic.

  • @droidmotorola3884

    @droidmotorola3884

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just like dropping torpedoes from the height of 2 brothers mountains and having a short enough arming distance to hit a battleship.

  • @177SCmaro

    @177SCmaro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or not being able to spot a 300 foot long ship within walking distance of the local pub.

  • @janintelkor

    @janintelkor

    2 жыл бұрын

    this is a arcade game, it't not realistic in any way, just look at the speed of these planes, they can travel long distance in seconds. Also, after playing war thunder, those graphics in WoW look like this game was stuck in 2010.

  • @janintelkor

    @janintelkor

    2 жыл бұрын

    like look at 4:02, they slow down, accelerate in a F1 race car rate, and then just slow down to snail speed lmao

  • @177SCmaro

    @177SCmaro

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@janintelkor This is an old contradiction since the game represents itself as being based on real ships, or ships that could have existed, some of which like Texas and Iowa you can still walk their decks, and attempts to emulate real physics with things like it's dispersion and armor penetration mechanics, but also relies on pure fantasy like it's concealment, torpedo reload mechanics (it was possible to reload torpedoes on a destroyer, but it was a slow, dangerous, labor-intensive task that could not be performed in the middle of battle), infinite ammo and air planes, ect. This seems to lead to two general types of players in Legends - bb mains who wish the game was more realistic as actual battleships where far more punishing to bad decisions as they are allowed to be in the game, and destroyer, cruiser, and carrier mains who defend the fantasy elements as "it's just an arcade shooter" often because it let's them get away with being sloppy, alot. I've played a lot of each ship type in Legends and am still taken aback by how forgiving the game is to destroyers and carriers (and often cruisers) and how frustrating the game can be for battleships to the point I regard playing carriers as "game journalist difficulty", destroyers as "recruit difficult", cruisers as "medium difficulty", and battleships as "very hard to legendary difficulty".

  • @jenniferstewarts4851
    @jenniferstewarts48512 жыл бұрын

    You state in the video, that most planes aren't designed to be part of a carrier group. That is actually very very wrong. Aircraft carrier planes, had to be built very different then land based planes, and a few companies such as Grumman specialized solely in carrier based planes. Grumman started with scout planes off battleships, and such, It understood the strains a plane had on catapult take offs, water landings, and on deck landings.. They began designing fighters way back in the early 30's with the FF FiFi, and continued right out to the F-14 tomcat. Japan's navel air arm actually had little "contact" with land air arm... and their aircraft were very different sharing nothing in common. It was really only the UK and Germany who, in both cases, lacked a dedicated air arm... used land based aircraft redesigned. But even then late war the UK had a few aircraft that were designed ground up to be navy with no land counterparts. On the flip side, they also bought DEDICATED us carrier aircraft, such as the F4F.

  • @ShredderJR

    @ShredderJR

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I was shaking my head in disbelief that he didn't know that at the beginning of the video. He sounded so certain of himself too.

  • @simong9067

    @simong9067

    2 жыл бұрын

    The UK always flew dedicated naval designs alongside navalised landplanes and the Fleet Air Arm was only controlled by the RAF between 1918 and 1939, otherwise being part of the Royal Navy. Germany never had an operational carrier so really had no need for (fixed wing) naval designs, though it had a separate naval aviation command post WW2, flying from shore bases.

  • @jenniferstewarts4851

    @jenniferstewarts4851

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simong9067 Not really no, Sea Gladiator was based off the Gloster Gladiator modified for carrier duty Blackburn Skua was purpose built, but only about 180 were made. Hawker Sea Hurricane, Supermarine Seafire, both land based original Corsair, wildcat and Hellcat - dedicated us made carrier aircraft. now the single engine torpedo bombers, those were all purpose built by Fairey as costal defense and RAF preferred multi-engine marine patrol.

  • @lucasdement5629
    @lucasdement56292 жыл бұрын

    Everyday this game strays farther from the light

  • @oct8pus551
    @oct8pus5512 жыл бұрын

    So good to see you are back into the CC programm and they allow you to share test ships footage with us. Oh no wait...

  • @553095481

    @553095481

    2 жыл бұрын

    so he forgave the littlewhitemouse shit that wg has done, or his pocket is empty?

  • @oct8pus551

    @oct8pus551

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@553095481 WG simply came back to him begging him to show and praise the new super cvs upon us. And Flambino the mercyful accepted, in return he asked them to leave the current development team in St Petersburg to make the game great again and wg accepted. They acknowledged their mistakes of the past 4 years and from now on the time of balans and listening to feedback will be. Facts.

  • @553095481

    @553095481

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@oct8pus551 listening to feedback????? they must be drunk when they asked him

  • @xzardas541
    @xzardas5412 жыл бұрын

    I still remember the times when CV used to be fun for all parties involved CV players had fun RTS like game betwen each other in order to destroy enemy fighters while protecting own team from atack craft with grand prize being able snipe on enemy CV and gaining air dominance thus recking enemy team. And rest of the team was not getting cancer being asaluted by indestructible aircraft for whole damn match.

  • @DH-iu4gn
    @DH-iu4gn2 жыл бұрын

    Northrup Grumman has been designing plains specifically for carrier use for decades.

  • @sammaelazrael6309
    @sammaelazrael63092 жыл бұрын

    One of the most memorable ways a history teacher taught me about ww2 in the pacific theater, was how Japan and the USA were using and trying to destroy each other's aircraft carriers as the carry in that side of the war.

  • @danzbjj
    @danzbjj2 жыл бұрын

    if you lived in canberra, you'd say 'can buh ruh'

  • @nurgle11

    @nurgle11

    2 жыл бұрын

    Looking for Peter Harvey signing off :D

  • @armanhadi777
    @armanhadi7772 жыл бұрын

    Flambass taught his Eagle a new trick: farming.

  • @jean-philippemorin1176
    @jean-philippemorin11762 жыл бұрын

    Got a game against an eagle. Was in shlieffen and eagle hit me in 1 rocket stike only, for 1/3 of my health. + 2 fires. I went to play tanks after this.

  • @RPGTKingpin

    @RPGTKingpin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sums up why I don't play Schlieffen much. Do I want to? Absolutely. But the line has barely been out for 5 months and it's already powercrept. Absolutely sad. But then, anything facing CVs or Subs is sad.

  • @jean-philippemorin1176

    @jean-philippemorin1176

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RPGTKingpin the shlieffen line was a blast to grind. But the shlieffen burn fast, really fast. I have more hard time making the Shlieffen to work than previous ships for reasons. I don't manage to use the secondaries too often either. It seems people have figured out how to counter this ship fast.

  • @RPGTKingpin

    @RPGTKingpin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jean-philippemorin1176 Yep. The only time Schlieffen is able to be effective is when it isn't spotted before it's in range to get its full arsenal on target. So the introduction of the subs, the large numbers of DDs and super CVs all make her impossible to play actively. You're left just waiting and dodging CV attacks for the first 10 minutes until your DDs kill off the enemy spotters. If they lose, you're screwed.

  • @pvs1681
    @pvs16812 жыл бұрын

    Epic showcase for CV; seriously 👍 content variety:)

  • @WielkaKasza
    @WielkaKasza2 жыл бұрын

    Flambass plays super CV: "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

  • @NicktheMedic
    @NicktheMedic2 жыл бұрын

    I’m really enjoying you highlighting carriers, it’s hilarious seeing your reactions, it seems like you’re having a good time, and you get to show off exactly what does and doesn’t work with the class.

  • @coggdog2120
    @coggdog21202 жыл бұрын

    As someone who lives in Canberra it is pronounced Can-bruh

  • @alexkahl6583
    @alexkahl65832 жыл бұрын

    that´s a good example of how even a round where you loose can be funny af

  • @JbZeta
    @JbZeta2 жыл бұрын

    The best part about CVs is how they get 2 extra minutes every game to farm the remaining enemy ships once their whole team died and the game is decided. Yet you'll see most CV players argue that they're perfectly fine and it's your problem if you don't enjoy them in the game. Truly some special kind of people.

  • @mattlane2282

    @mattlane2282

    2 жыл бұрын

    DD sucks, launching 20k damage torps from smoke, or out of vision... need to remove dds...

  • @topgun1457

    @topgun1457

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattlane2282 well if your not expecting torps to be fired from a smokescreen then i think you need help you always should expect smoke screens to launch torps at you enless its a exhaust smoke from a Italian bb and i haven't played in 2-3 years and i know this

  • @mattlane2282

    @mattlane2282

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@topgun1457 I see the sarcasm completely went over your head about people crying about CVs and subs

  • @topgun1457

    @topgun1457

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattlane2282 um mate you were not being sarcastic

  • @mattlane2282

    @mattlane2282

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@topgun1457 Yeah I was cause I aint a bitch, I have over 1k battles in the lex (old)...

  • @alperyldrm1207
    @alperyldrm12072 жыл бұрын

    That Conqueror had a lot fun

  • @kodiak138
    @kodiak1382 жыл бұрын

    Why do a couple of planes always drop off the formation right before an attack on the ship?

  • @WTCheatShaming
    @WTCheatShaming2 жыл бұрын

    The meteor with after burner.....Lol

  • @rzu1474
    @rzu14742 жыл бұрын

    Lol the jets go so fast the icon on the minimal lags

  • @janhgh3400
    @janhgh34002 жыл бұрын

    "I wish my team didn't suck so bad!" - Has 1 kill to 3 kills of the HMS Eagle on the opposing team.

  • @droidmotorola3884

    @droidmotorola3884

    2 жыл бұрын

    Idk man. 350k is a lot of damage, while the enemy cv just secured the kills. If only one person in his team got 100k the would have a better chance

  • @bladeclanhalo3

    @bladeclanhalo3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@droidmotorola3884 350k damage, of which a lot of that is from conqueror

  • @matthewblomstrom4190
    @matthewblomstrom41902 жыл бұрын

    Let's not forgot that WG originally did the super ships with the basis of not having carriers, and now look where we are

  • @neverborn1000

    @neverborn1000

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cant wait for super subs with ballistic missiles

  • @Dcarp7

    @Dcarp7

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was going to happen eventually.

  • @robertlindsay6671
    @robertlindsay66712 жыл бұрын

    Their Eagle also topped the Scoreboard lol

  • @GummiAnd
    @GummiAnd2 жыл бұрын

    "Fighters are a joke" - - - then proceeds to deploy his own fighters xD

  • @MrEarlSwift
    @MrEarlSwift2 жыл бұрын

    I find this amazingly funny because the guy is not even particularly good at CV's. I mean he's not BAD, but he's not got the spatial awareness and communication most of the really good CV mains have. He's very clearly a BB player using a CV while distracted by being a streamer-man. And he still fekkin' ripped people up in this ship. That's the funny part. A CV unicum will absolutely annihilate the entire team before the 4 minute mark in this bloody thing.

  • @philiplewis8213
    @philiplewis82132 жыл бұрын

    Spectacular game. I am sure your team would have liked it had you spotted a bit for them though.

  • @supertoastboi3231

    @supertoastboi3231

    2 жыл бұрын

    And tried to reset cap

  • @jamesnorgalis2797
    @jamesnorgalis27972 жыл бұрын

    On the subject of plane weights. The published specs for the F-22 Raptor are an empty weight of 14,514kg, a loaded weight of 24,947 kg (plane, pilot, gas) and a max gross weight of 38,000kg (plane, pilot, gas, and weapons)

  • @IIISentorIII

    @IIISentorIII

    2 жыл бұрын

    My F-22 has usually a loaded weight around 21'000 kg.

  • @variableknife4702
    @variableknife47022 жыл бұрын

    What are they on and where can I get it? Asking for a friend.

  • @Raptor091288
    @Raptor0912882 жыл бұрын

    Wargaming: Claims their game is a competitive, skill-based affair. Also Wargaming: Adds superships and submarines into ranked.

  • @retro1333
    @retro13332 жыл бұрын

    Can anybody tell me how may I unlock this ship as a beginner player ty :(

  • @deathzky1598
    @deathzky15982 жыл бұрын

    Cant wait to see the Soviet super cv 🤔

  • @drcruelty
    @drcruelty2 жыл бұрын

    You think that's bad? Last night every match I had with CVs, the enemy CV had double or better the winrate. One match that was Eagle vs Eagle, theirs had 73 matches and a 70% WR. Mine had 1 match and a 0% WR. And over and over again all night it was my CV 30 something %, enemy 60.

  • @gings4ever
    @gings4ever2 жыл бұрын

    Balance can never coexist with BALANS

  • @Dcarp7

    @Dcarp7

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because Wargaming does not either know how to balance or care enough to actually balance. So, they go for the lousy and crappy alternative.

  • @johnking1896
    @johnking18962 жыл бұрын

    That makes the 'ommph' into a 'OOOMMMMMMPPPPHHHHFFFFFFFFFF' LOLOLOL. It also makes the big bitch dept on WWII CV's not as bad of an issue, LOL.

  • @rtc3
    @rtc32 жыл бұрын

    Notice the enemy team top XP was also the Eagle.

  • @andreaspedersen3952
    @andreaspedersen39522 жыл бұрын

    Such a great ship on ship game.. So sad you never can see the CV when it's eating you up...

  • @miketrucker8186
    @miketrucker81862 жыл бұрын

    wow that is sick

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe13692 жыл бұрын

    for an a-4 or a-6 carrier aircraft, yeah they carried their weight or better in kaboom. the old F-18A' s could haul more than B-17 from WW2.

  • @BruderRaziel
    @BruderRaziel2 жыл бұрын

    The mask has fallen, no more pretends that carrierstrikes can be countered or, frankly, even interacted with. Dodging has meme status for a reason, a decent carrierplayer already does not care what kind of circles you draw, he can simply choose another angle while you hope none of your enemies are paying attention to your broadside. And now, within the time it takes for your BBs rudder to go neutral, the CV has already crossed the map with a jetsquad that can smash you for another 20k+ while also being completely disposable. It makes sense in a twisted way, carriers are already broken through their unmatched utility and damage potential, which can be applied wherever it is needed, the entire map is your stomping ground, if you want to one-up what is fundamentally broken you have to go into crack-cocaine territory. Still, I have serious doubts that even a seasoned carrierplayer could have turned this match around. For a carrier to apply its utility the team must at least be present to take advantage of it. Almost half the team got themselves killed with and abysmal 155-800 base xp to their name and this is not a rare sight. Honestly, if someone semi regularly finishes with under 800 xp in high tier games, that person needs to go back to tier 1, start over and learn how to play the game. Instead these players tend to just press W, get killed and then cry in chat about their team being campers, not being supported support and whatnot.

  • @Dcarp7

    @Dcarp7

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep.

  • @bladeclanhalo3

    @bladeclanhalo3

    2 жыл бұрын

    dodging has a meme status because the average player cant do it, they just cry about it

  • @BruderRaziel

    @BruderRaziel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bladeclanhalo3 Uh, no. If you "dodged" a strike, its because the cv player screwed up. I will gladly demonstrate this to you with Richthofen against any other ship, just name a day and time. Even without any allied crossfires involved, you will find that neither AA nor maneuverability means anything to a cv player with 2 hands and both braincells working. Not to mention in a real game you cant really dodge freely most of the time without risking getting smacked by other ships.

  • @bladeclanhalo3

    @bladeclanhalo3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BruderRaziel thanks for confirming you're one of the shitters im talking about. making excuses

  • @carteranderson5907
    @carteranderson59072 жыл бұрын

    Me cry-laughing at this replay and wanting to play through the British carriers, meanwhile, if I was one of the enemy team's ships it would be more of a Joker laugh.

  • @troyskee5
    @troyskee52 жыл бұрын

    This should be a tier 11 super ship they are late ww2 Koran war level tech level right there.😂

  • @77arceus
    @77arceus2 жыл бұрын

    10 seconds off the double slava challenge

  • @g4zzen245
    @g4zzen2452 жыл бұрын

    Superships are already a sick ass shit joke, but this, this is beyond

  • @deadarashi6462
    @deadarashi64622 жыл бұрын

    7:12 - that's most certainly not the Australian city XD

  • @melissajeffnelson9787
    @melissajeffnelson97872 жыл бұрын

    Perfectly balanced. You spell balanced like this my friend

  • @okularnik125
    @okularnik1252 жыл бұрын

    The funniest part is that thing can go after enemy carrier with relatively low loses and no counter play

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only 1 in 100 CV players go after the enemy CV. Ape not kill ape.

  • @okularnik125

    @okularnik125

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juankovacs6033 suprisingly on t6 CV mostly killing each other

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@okularnik125 you said it, T6...

  • @walterengler5709
    @walterengler57092 жыл бұрын

    I kept watching that Des Moines being scared of the Kleber and never being in position to kill it .. roflmao no wonder red was doing badly with cruiser players like that.

  • @zeroze01
    @zeroze012 жыл бұрын

    I mean... are you even surprised at this point? xD

  • @iPoTeNcYy
    @iPoTeNcYy2 жыл бұрын

    the cherry on top is that he's using cunningham hahaha

  • @philippos5547
    @philippos55472 жыл бұрын

    How much will this ship cost?

  • @blackwolf823
    @blackwolf8232 жыл бұрын

    I just slapped a mogador to oblivion with the eagle's tactical bombers. The bombs drop so fast they can't juke or turn

  • @DestoRest
    @DestoRest2 жыл бұрын

    Jingles ftw

  • @TheSilverwolf1001
    @TheSilverwolf10012 жыл бұрын

    I think if they added missile destroyers from each nation like an I mean Arleigh Burke class and equivalent And pretty much a bigger map for these super carriers like at least 2x to 3x bigger it’d be great gameplay. As well as bringing the 1980’s modern battleships, battle cruisers, submarines and I think it’ll be fun

  • @dullegitte
    @dullegitte2 жыл бұрын

    So, Flambass is now a CV main?

  • @wagnerthomas6780
    @wagnerthomas67802 жыл бұрын

    The only way to counter cvs is with submarines that can go 60kts underwater.

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat2 жыл бұрын

    Why exactly didn't you go after the enemy Eagle?

  • @droidmotorola3884

    @droidmotorola3884

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cause it eats planes alive? Tf is that question?

  • @TheRigger92r
    @TheRigger92r2 жыл бұрын

    Get a "just dodge" cup so you can drink with advice.

  • @TheRaidenLP
    @TheRaidenLP2 жыл бұрын

    Normal counter play would be to form AA clusters to get the enemy planes absolutely hammered. But this wouldn't work. Great balance, really.

  • @keenanmcbreen7073
    @keenanmcbreen70732 жыл бұрын

    The only challenge is to eat enough prunes to be able to poop on people so hard.

  • @Darman-in8mt
    @Darman-in8mt2 жыл бұрын

    Is this the Level 11, I heard about? Need better AA guided by radar. This would be a good thing for a Super Ship Mode or the WTF mode. Well That's Fantastic WOW. So Over and Out.

  • @alicethegrinsecatz6011
    @alicethegrinsecatz601111 ай бұрын

    I now why I'm starting with US-american cruisers. In an Annapolis, you'll probably live a tiny moment longer.

  • @ColCurtis
    @ColCurtis2 жыл бұрын

    I think you can strike quicker than battleships.

  • @sabre0smile
    @sabre0smile2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting they went with the non-turboprop wyvern, at least by the look of it

  • @simong9067

    @simong9067

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm just wondering why they chose a Canberra and not the much more impressive Valiant Mk 2 which was designed for low level operation and would have made an ideal torpedo bomber. They could have given it an air spawn or made the wings unfold after takeoff to get round the size issue. It would have been just as convincing.

  • @santiagoperez2094

    @santiagoperez2094

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simong9067 because the valiant isnt in warthunder

  • @Jojooooooo
    @Jojooooooo2 жыл бұрын

    Bruh naval meteor with afterburners

  • @arcanaxiii6665
    @arcanaxiii66652 жыл бұрын

    Wait... it has Meteors AND Canberras!

  • @thomasembleton1467
    @thomasembleton14672 жыл бұрын

    Canberra never had torpedoes and wasnt carrier capable!

  • @McCroda
    @McCroda2 жыл бұрын

    Man I hate CVs, but somehow it's ok to watch Flambass do it.

  • @Kalmar_1997
    @Kalmar_19972 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait for russian super carrier... oh wait...Nachimov

  • @LOLERXP
    @LOLERXP2 жыл бұрын

    Wargaming: "We have decided to bring more historical accuracy into the game, by making battleships helpless, useless victims of CV strikes."

  • @SnafuWT
    @SnafuWT2 жыл бұрын

    meteor doesn't have afterburner lmao.

  • @ewok40k
    @ewok40k2 жыл бұрын

    Why I am not surprised...

  • @jakoblozeau8832
    @jakoblozeau88322 жыл бұрын

    10 seconds from double slava challenge in a cv

  • @eiresby2344
    @eiresby23442 жыл бұрын

    Conqek: Yeah, i had fun :)

  • @Legendendear

    @Legendendear

    2 жыл бұрын

    Conqueror was the worst target for flambass. Yes, a huge dmg pinata, but no threat what so ever to his team. If he had struck strategically more important targets he could've won. (Would've dealt a LOT less dmg tho)

  • @eiresby2344

    @eiresby2344

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Legendendear see where conqek place in team result then if you think conqek not a threat to team, even tho he must dealt with annoying cv, then idk man. Yeah, the ship might be not a 'threat' like you said however if he knows how to play conqek then you fked up. Conqek player quite scary tho, long range HE spam, 1 fire 2 fires and so on. Yup, flambass lack of team play as cv here, he could help other flank, hunting DDs like Kleber in early but he just hunt others especially Roon and Conqek and not forget he never put fighter for his team. Yup that was a bad play from a CV player that i always have in the game. So conclusion Just Dodge if cant Just Dodge Harder. Thats how WG told us when facing Super CVs

  • @Legendendear

    @Legendendear

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eiresby2344 What I meant is: Flambass couldnt deal with conq quickly. One of Conqs main strenghts is her heal. So if you cant negate this strenght its the wrong target. If you wanna kill a conq quickly, deal unhealable dmg (for a CV its AP Bombs & Torps) or focus fire. Neither was happening. And Eagle doesnt have AP bombs. If you wanna farm huge dmg numbers, sure go ahead, use HE for conq. (Almost 50% of his dealt dmg was on conq) But if you wanna win, deal either dmg she cant heal or select a different target. Additionally: Many good Conq players use the masochism skill (the alternative fire skill). So using HE on conq is not only ineffective, but its often even helping the conq player.

  • @GJ203
    @GJ2032 жыл бұрын

    We Australians pronounce it like "Kanbrah".

  • @GatorShawn
    @GatorShawn2 жыл бұрын

    The thing that bothers me most about this video was how was a Preussen at such high health that far into a match. No matter what I do, I get lit up early and burned down by this point.

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    My last Preussen game I was targeted by half the enemy team 30 sec after I got spotted (like 45sec into the game) and died at 3 min. Really fun and engaging.

  • @RPGTKingpin

    @RPGTKingpin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gotta be patient in Preussen. Which is difficult because that dispersion is frustrating and forces you to get closer. But ideally you need to be at 15-20km for the first 5 minutes, and gradually get closer. I rarely drop below 15km from my nearest target until nearly 10 minutes into the game, and usually am in a kiting position because enemy ships will focus me down like crazy if they see me nose in. Comes with being a German BB player. Everybody knows your superstructure is made of cardboard and kerosene.

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RPGTKingpin well yes, but isn't this line built to brawl? Even if I use the dispersion module (which I do) the dispersion above 10-12km is horrible. And I do use fire prevention too. It's frustrating how the detection f*cks you over in this line.

  • @RPGTKingpin

    @RPGTKingpin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juankovacs6033 They are built to brawl, yes. Problem is that brawling is not meta atm. It's the opposite of the meta. The meta is long range HE and torpedo spam, super high caliber guns, and near constant spotting. It's sad, but that's just where the game is right now. And the problem is that because brawling occurs at shorter ranges, you can't REACH it because the meta kills you off before you get there. So your only choice, if you want to play to your ships' strengths, is to be patient, and wait for the enemy team to thin out and get stuck into their chosen targets, then use the distraction/drop in enemy ship density to push in and start doing damage. But even when you're there, there are so many sources of high damage torpedoes that you can't afford to slow down and let your secondaries work. If you do that you're gonna get slapped with a wall of skill from somewhere. Either it'll be a flanking Shima, or a smoked up Jinan throwing 20 deep water torps at you, or that submarine that hasn't been spotted all game, or maybe it's a CV that tells you everything you could possibly do is worthless and you are a damage pinata for it to farm. If you want to avoid at least 3 of those possibilities, you need to wait for your DDs to clear them out, and back them up whenever enemy DDs/subs/cruisers are spotted. TL;DR, it's not a good time to be a German BB player right now. WG is determined to kill the brawling playstyle and the Germans are the first on the chopping block.

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RPGTKingpin indeed. And they keep adding BBs and BCs with super heavy caliber guns. The game doesn't need another ship that can one shot an angling cruiser... Well, the game doesn't need A LOT of the things that have in it right now. They already killed the rock-paper-scissors theory and added fire (CVs), and imo they are trying to overpower other classes gimmicks to "BaLaNcE" the game. I mean why those "super ships" (tier XI)??

  • @siriusczech
    @siriusczech2 жыл бұрын

    You should have gone for the Eagle. If not in 5th minute, definitely around 10-12th minute when he started pushing your Shima and B cap

  • @i4y
    @i4y2 жыл бұрын

    This game has been build for CV players, all the other players are just targets.

  • @thomasembleton1467
    @thomasembleton14672 жыл бұрын

    Afterburners on meteor and Canberra! Wtf

  • @michaelmccall8067
    @michaelmccall80672 жыл бұрын

    Canberra,capital of Australia. Pronounced - Can Bra

  • @musicmaster3
    @musicmaster32 жыл бұрын

    his pronunciation Carn-bear-ah, actual pronounciation cAn-brah

  • @Stormskip
    @Stormskip2 жыл бұрын

    Supercarriers: Bringing PvE gameplay to a strictly PvP game

  • @asiftalpur3758

    @asiftalpur3758

    2 жыл бұрын

    Git gud lmao

  • @TheGrandexeno
    @TheGrandexeno2 жыл бұрын

    Remember when they nerfed Hakuryuu because of the excess damage 😂😂😂

  • @thufir8055
    @thufir80552 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see what Wargaming means by balance.

  • @asdas137
    @asdas1372 жыл бұрын

    Played in a Friedrich a few days and a friend in an GK. I was focused by 2 CV and was out after a few minutes. Shit down 25 Planes and it helped nothing... And don't get me started on the Submarines....

  • @agux0
    @agux02 жыл бұрын

    Glad you put up these games, have no interest in them but at least you are here showing us how stupid these things are and this only being ur second game, lmao😂😂😂

  • @theinacircleoftheancientpu492
    @theinacircleoftheancientpu4922 жыл бұрын

    Simple way to balance game, remove the cap of cvs in a match. Heck, remove all ships but cvs.

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    The only way to bring happiness to everyone is adding a mode without CVs and subs. Let them see how many players want to share a match with that crap.

  • @theinacircleoftheancientpu492

    @theinacircleoftheancientpu492

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juankovacs6033 Happiness? Anakin was not destined to bring happiness to the force, but balance.

  • @juankovacs6033

    @juankovacs6033

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theinacircleoftheancientpu492 let them stay, but in their own world. And let them fight CV vs CV

  • @theinacircleoftheancientpu492

    @theinacircleoftheancientpu492

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juankovacs6033 If you want to be serious go talk to someone else.

  • @RamonInNZ
    @RamonInNZ2 жыл бұрын

    Falmbass should have gone for their Eagle earlier!

  • @JohnSmith-ux3tt
    @JohnSmith-ux3tt2 жыл бұрын

    Just what the game needed - more CVs and more super-ships. My safe-space at T9 is no longer safe, with the apparent drop in players leading to non-stop uptiering :-(

  • @mattlane2282

    @mattlane2282

    2 жыл бұрын

    Go to war thunder...

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