perfecting and explaining the plasma toroid
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I officially have a plasma toroid generator on my desk that can run indefinitely--no more heating issues.
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In this video, I explain how a plasma toroid is ACTUALLY generated, show you the experiments I've done over the past few months, and build a new, smaller, simpler, prettier, more efficient device based on Steve Ward's circuit and test it out. It was a lot of fun and my future research into the device will be using different gases like @kcakarevska to produce different colors and cheaper designs. Imagine we make one with low-pressure air and it looks like the aurora borealis, and the whole thing costs only $100! You can all join the plasma donut club then!
Thanks again to @engineeredlabs6403 for helping me give away beautiful, USA-made samples of metallic potassium and platinum! Comment below with a video idea for a chance to win one!
00:00 Intro
00:48 A Brief History
01:38 correct physics of the plasma toroid
03:49 experiments!
07:19 building a better device
09:58 can it play music?
10:54 new plasma effects
12:08 perfect plasma toroid!
13:49 outro?
14:18 oscillator circuit explanation
18:24 bonus clip/my plans
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I legit want a kit version of this. It'd be an incredible talking point on my work desk
@JinKee
Жыл бұрын
he built it in a cave! with a box of scraps!
@varkboys9999
Жыл бұрын
@@JinKee I'm sorry. I'm not Tony Stark
@m.sierra5258
Жыл бұрын
I'd question whether this device is RF safe enough for work :D it must send electromagnetic waves like crazy
@yoshibear7526
Жыл бұрын
@@m.sierra5258 It really wouldn't. Your router or microwave probably causes more RF interference than this.
@vroomfondel5447
Жыл бұрын
I'd buy one! though, with neon if possible.
Great video man! Little tip for working in the shop, do not wear gloves when operating the band saw and drill press or most power tools for that matter. If they get caught up in the machinery it will pull the rest of your hand in before you can even think to pull away or shut off the machine. A little cut to bare skin is better than losing a whole finger or worse. Stay safe my friend! Keep up the amazing content!
@coyotedomino
Жыл бұрын
^
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AustinSteingrube
Жыл бұрын
@@BackMacSci On the same note, remember to drop the foot to a quarter inch above your work piece. All the way up is unsafe and bad for the blade :)
@ChopFooey
Жыл бұрын
He ain't lying. I used to work on commercial food equipment and there was one call I'll never forget. A guy was operating a large meat grinder with the lid safety bypassed and dropped his knife in the hopper. When we got there the fire department guys didn't' know how to get him out. We had to switch one of the 3 phase power legs to reverse the motor and squish out what was left of him. There was another instance upstate where a guy got his arm caught in a 80qt. mixer, it ripped his arm off and proceeded to beat him with the bloody stump. You can never be too careful, to a machine everything tastes the same.
@phreekinoriginal
Жыл бұрын
same as above except use a tool to push the work towards blade for close cuts...
I would love to see this refined even more in the future! Cheaper gases + custom PCB = win for everyone. Also, good luck pushing towards doing youtube as a career/at least ramping up the channel! Love the videos so far.
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching until the end! Yes, what you described (cheaper gases + PCB) is my plan.
@jttech44
Жыл бұрын
@@BackMacSci Neon would be cool, because pink. Low pressure air, would probably work as well. It does seem rather sensitive to how the globe is positioned however. I wonder if the circuit could account for this.
@lukehaworth5789
Жыл бұрын
I would be up for designing the PCB and sending out Gerber files for free if anybody wants them. I'm going to build one of these
@Mark_Nadams
Жыл бұрын
@@lukehaworth5789 What program do you use to create your Gerber files?
@Enderdragon91
Жыл бұрын
@@Mark_Nadams idk about him, but I use KiCAD personally. Open source and free, easy enough to use while still being powerful, I feel it's a good option
Watching the phasma jump to life has got to be one of my favorite things, I would love to see a high quality 10 minute extended looping footage with that plasma ring floating in the middle in a dark room something like one of those videos with a cracking campfire or ocean waves. Great job on the video by the way.
@D4RKFiB3R
Жыл бұрын
4K 120 plz :)
I would love to see some harmonic resonance test between the toroid ring and the acoustic input - im wondering whether it would act like fire in making some interesting dancing toroid displays :) excellent work once again man, so cool seeing how far youve come with this tech!
Well, I guess you could say your desk is now officially out of this world! Congrats on the plasma toroid generator, and I'm excited to see what kind of colorful creations you'll come up with using different gases. As for the metallic potassium and platinum samples, I think my video idea would be a dramatic recreation of the periodic table. Can't wait to see what you come up with next!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
you want the potassium sample? i like your idea!
@SpeedrunnerG55
Жыл бұрын
@@BackMacSci I would love that! and hope your new youtube career works out! its exiting to see new creators, especially in the DIY tech space. super stoaked to see what comes next
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
@@SpeedrunnerG55 thanks man! what's your email?
This is one of those things where if you saw it in a movie you'd think "wow, they've got no idea of how things really work". Incredible work! I really want one of these.
Hey Tate, I came across your video today and I want to say, excellent work. I love the content. Keep up the hard work and continue to improve your craft. You’re quite good at breaking things down for everyone to understand, you’re humble, not afraid to show accidents, admitted mistakes and willing to trying again. Yes you can make KZread a career!!! Suggestions: - Try using graphics to help explain complex concepts - Please use personal protective equipment - Consider refining and putting into production the Plasma Toriod (different base materials, shapes, colors, variety of glass tube shapes, sizes, different color gases) these are way cooler than a plasma lamp and would look great in a kids room to an executive’s office.
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Anil, I appreciate your kindness and feedback!
I've never become a Patreon supporter before...until now. Your videos are excellent and you supply files for how to etc. You have a massive future in science communication, and as a science educator myself, you have a natural talent for explaining complexities. Looking forward to more.
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew, seeing this now. Thank you very much🙏⚗️🧪
i'm surprised that the glass didn't shatter when you cooled it extremely quickly after it was heated by the plasma. please be careful. great video, i've been really enjoying following along with your experiments.
@wagnerpereira8311
Жыл бұрын
Muito bom
@you.findbitches6054
Жыл бұрын
Ikr when he dipped it in the liquid nitrogen I was TERRIFIED
@kathleenrobertpogue6818
Жыл бұрын
Why didn't it explode. Ive had hot coffee cups explode in the sink. Im sure there was less of a temperature difference there.
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
This may be because pyrex glass has a smaller coefficient of expansion than ceramic and therefore can remain in one piece during a temperature change
@kathleenrobertpogue6818
Жыл бұрын
@@BackMacSci i assumed is was regular glass. Even still, its crazy Pyrex can handle such a drastic temperature change. Thanks for the answer.
This is one of the coolest things and best explanations I've seen on KZread. I'm not familiar with Tesla coils and so I was wondering why you needed such a heavily analog drive circuit... Until you explained that it's running at 15MHz! 🤯 Really enjoying your channel!
Maybe see if you could use the plasma toroid as an artistic oscilloscope. If you could fine-tune it so you could see a physical representation of modulation with a base band tone for example, that'd be pretty sick.
@quandarkumtanglehairs4743
Жыл бұрын
DUUUUDE that would be doooope
@The_Petrichor
Жыл бұрын
@@quandarkumtanglehairs4743 it would also be the first developmental step for him to design his own device for playing music through the toroid (considering bT failed)
I'm looking forward to seeing this channel expand, it's been a while since I found a fresh science channel
I very much like your explanations in this, fantastic vid. I’m not very good at electronics but I actually kinda got that about the mosfet resonance zero v thing! Suggestions: If you can get all the input frequencies to match (or maybe be a multiple of) the xenon’s natural excitation frequencies, you might be able to get a lot more effective power to the plasma itself. Alternatively, a ring of a few electromagnets around the globe, powered in a sequence like a coilgun. Might be interesting to see particle acceleration with novel electromagnetic confinement.
The best kinds of KZread videos are the ones that inspire people to go make stuff, and this here is an amazing example of that! Twenty minutes ago I didn't know this was a thing, and now I want to build one! Can't wait to see what improvements you make, and what projects you tackle next. Also, very class-y explanation of the class-e oscillator! And I love your method of designing/fabbing PCBs. Keep at it with the acid etching, the ability to make PCBs at home is priceless (not to mention a huuuge flex)
I love that you add little explanations and definitions throughout the video. I don’t do much with electrical stuff so it’s extremely helpful
The editing is amazing, and the explaination is also very good, i liked this a lot
His parents that got interviewed at USC led me to his channel 😂
So glad to see you test out the coil orientation to test for convection. That was an interesting result. Nice to see it still stay locked to the coil in the way it did and was just compressed due to the convection.
You’re such a wholesome person, you deserve to be appreciated and happy in your endeavors.
@BackMacSci
8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much🙏 God bless you
An interesting video idea would be to test how different shapes of the glass would interact with the plasma. Maybe it would form interesting shapes if you use a spiral or a tube… I love your content and i would love to buy one of these.
I really want one of these. I would love to see a kit. I also love the idea of experimenting with frequencies
@user-oz2wn3lj5s
7 ай бұрын
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Best of luck going pro, dude! You clearly have a passion for science and find joy in discovery. I hope you continue to share this blessing and inspire others. Good stuff brother.
Man every video you make on this always intrigues the hell outta me! Absolutely beautiful!
Doc-Oc: The Power of the sun at the palm of my hand Mac: The power of the Sun on your desk. 😂
it would be really cool to see what happens if you would use two oscillators on the bulb at the same time if it would be possible to make even crazier shapes of the donut that way. that or the two circuits gonna disturb each others fields is my guess
@BotchedGod
Жыл бұрын
i believe the later yes, they do not like other fields
@Pulverrostmannen
Жыл бұрын
@@BotchedGod there is only one way to find out right ;)
dude! that is mesmerizing!! and your video achieve some kind of perfection of "getting to the point" that is very hard to find on youtube! love every bit of it! good luck on your project!
Loved this video, great to see your improved version.
It looks like everyone is using a Steve Ward circuit as the power source. Are you planning to discuss the circuit specifics in this upcoming vid? I know @kcakarevska recently shared the Steve Ward HF Plasma Driver circuit revision 1.0 from 2022. I believe the Steve Ward circuit is up to revision 4 or 5. Is there a reason you're using Rev1?
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
If you’re hoping for circuit theory in this video, it’s at the end of this video, Nate. The ward toroid driver is just the plasma flame driver with no “secondary” and altered component values, so yes, we are using the circuit published at kcakarevska’s page still.
@natesgarage
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks again. You guys are doing an amazing job with your improvements!
Fascinating project, but please stop wearing gloves when you use a saw or press run by electricity, if the glove catches the blade, it will deglove your hand removing all the skin of all your fingers leaving just a skeleton and no muscle. It’s a really ugliest thing to see when it happens. You need to use push blocks to use pliers, or hold it with a tool to give your hand distance away from the sawblade and drill press has enough muscle to do this. That’s the reason they make vices to mount to drill presses. You were safer doing it barehanded than wearing the type of glove you’re wearing that holds together very tight that if it got caught in any of these devices, it would remove all the skin and muscle off of your hand because . It took six years for me to get 85% of the use in my hand back from an accident at work. And I have never gotten 100% use back and that’s the best case scenario.
@raptor29aaa
3 ай бұрын
I agree push blocks are way safer
Nice work dude, you've done it again! The audio modulation was definitely a nice touch!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Zach! I hope to actually get it musical soon.
Great work, and great explanations! I really enjoy your videos on this project. Keep it up!
I really hope you can commercialize this because I really want one, but also don't want to die of electrocution and internal radio frequency burns trying to make my own 😑
@nguyendesign4517
Жыл бұрын
you prob won’t die but maybe surface burns
@coreytaylor5386
Жыл бұрын
no pain no gain, how else are you supposed to get a mad scientist hair if you dont electrocute yourself a few dozen times
I thought that that plasma toroid video was somehow faked until you made your videos because it looked too good to be real. I wonder what happens if you use different Gases like Nitrogen
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
It will work with any gas according to the papers from the 1950s. And the color and behavior of the plasma would largely depend on the pressure of the nitrogen.
@sadasivam1535
11 ай бұрын
@@BackMacSci Wil it work with O2
This is great! I especially appreciated your description of how a class-E oscillator achieves ZVS - you were doing a fair impression of how I'd expect a TA to handle a lab session on oscillator fundamentals (ie colpitts, pierce, armstrong, multivibrator, etc). I look forward to seeing more pretty dancing glowing plasma goodness in the near future.
@AA-gl1dr
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think he’s professor level at this point. I’ve not had a TA that’s built the things he has.
All the Best Bro 👍. You are doing great stuff man! Keep it up.
Beautiful project! Interesting about the mosfet switching at the 0V point. Have dealt with this on thryristor firing circuits, but hadn't thought about it being a factor in a very high frequency design such as this.
I’m definitely going to give a go at building one of these after I finish the 50 other things I want to build. Yours is just so cool!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ethan’
first video i ever seen of yours. this is awesome man very well put together video very informative. will be coming back to this video a million times so i can try and build one haha
This is seriously the coolest thing I’ve ever seen. I wonder if introduction of fields at additional angles would influence the possible loops able to form. Perhaps through interference of different frequencies some really exotic shapes could emerge. Anyways, very cool. Favorite channel I’ve found in a very long time!!
Good luck dude! Excellent circuit and design. And execution. And explanation. I definitely had to sub after checking out your videos. Ill be looking forward to more
Hey bro. its lovely to see how enthusiastic your videos sounds through your voice. It´s clear that you absolute love this.... and thats awesome. brilliant videos. Internet needs more people like you. Thank you for sharing everything with us!.. by the way, could you share with us the actual schematic for this modified driver w/the part list? keep going bro... you´re awesome.
Congratulations with all your hard work and progress. I admire your passion, enthusiasm, and respect for the science. Also very good of you that you gave credit to prior works. Bravo! Regarding an idea, I believe a large circle induction loop would be interesting; one that doesn’t touch the sphere, sort of like a Saturn look. That would also give you the real estate do add some other smaller coils to manipulate to toroid in artistic and analog ways. All the best!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
thank you Head Banger, that saturn design has worked well for teslacoilpro / magic_plazma , the ones who repopularized the device
Beautiful, even more impressed by the stable ring, I just may have to make myself one and tool with it, perhaps using a universal wound coils that ive been experimenting with. Good job man.
Best of luck on your YT journey. You may be able to get some pretty interesting geometries and movements as well as just generally more control by introducing multiple coils at different orientation and adjusting your signals independently.
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Danté, Steve Ward has experimented with multiple coils oriented normal to one another and the toroid behavior is sporadic and jumps from coil to coil, staying parallel with coil plane, but his experimental results are not published to the public. Maybe they will be soon, and I plan on doing this soon too.
I LOVE finding channels like this! Keep going my man - I see 1M in your future.
Really good explanation of why it's shaped that way. Good luck with your youtubing career! Here's a couple video ideas to get that platinum element cube: 1. Make a laser from "scratch"! 2. Make a more complex inductor + glass tube to get the ring to follow a different shape!
Great little project it looks awesome, i find all this stuff fascinating, good luck with your KZread channel!😊✌️🏴
Good luck, man. You're awesome!
When you're trying to solder legs into the huge pads on your home made PCB, you should tin the legs first. Adding a blob of solder around the leg before attempting to solder it to the board. It helps increase heat transfer from the iron, as well as helps wet the surface so that you get nice adhesion. With huge pads covered in solder like that you're gonna have trouble getting the whole connection site hot enough to make a good connection, and you'll likely end up with a joint that is brittle and may crack and fail. You should also make sure to use some flux, even if the solder you have is flux core, flux will really help the solder wet.
That's great work man. With all the boring copycat HV stuff out there, it's great to see folks like I was when I was younger (and still am at nearly 50) like yourself are still out there. Bravo and keep it up!!!!!!!!!!! -Brett, a buddy of Steve Ward back in 2001. Terry Fritz, Ward, Richard hull, John Fraeu, Richard Quick. Yep, we invented and tested the MMC. Fun days...TCML, the SISG, OLTC, the first DRSSTC's. I there. Happy to see someone worthy of carrying on. Yay!
Awesome project! I had no idea this sort of thing existed now I want to make one as well
This is amazing I am inspired to have a go myself. You are an impressive young dude, keep up your awesome work 🙂
I would love to try this! I'd think that you could get a very stable ring by using a setof 2 resonating coils rather than one: the helmholtz configuration gives a very uniform B-field that may help with ring stability
It's much more organised and beautiful now! Both the generator and the video.
That was very cool. Nice job. I'm glad I saw this video
I love seeing these experiments!
Much luck, I'll be here watching your journey!
Beautiful build; plasma science is fascinating, thanks for your channel!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I love it too and I look forward to exploring it with you all!
I will support you anyway I can, Thank you for your time
Well done mate. You're doing good work here
12:09 that was amazing and mesmerizing it is also satisfying to watch the plasma form love it
So glad that YT recommended your original Toroid video to me. It only had 200 views at the time
nice job, really compact kit you've put together
Very nicely done. That tutorial was seriously good.
First time seeing your channel. I Immediately subscribed. I look forward to seeing what else you create!
i want to make one since i was at high school! thanks for the advices!
good on ya man! this was a great watch. i hit that subscribe button so freaking hard.
Thats really awesome dude! The best thing I ever did was use a 555 timer circuit to trigger a mosfet triggering a cars ignition coil to create a Jacob's ladder arc between 2 coat hangers. The transistor kept burning up so I then used an old ignition module from the 70s to do it. Cool channel!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Sick! I haven’t done that before. And thank you!
dang the editing and videography has gone way up on this channel! so cool!
Well done. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing your research!
This was awesome! thank you for the additional explanation of the oscillator circuit. This may be a silly question- as its been a long time since i worked with any gas discharges for my Physics lab in uni: have you noticed any more difficulty in generating the toroid on days with higher solar activity? Lately there's been a few solar storms and flares of decent strength . Depending on how stable the oscillation is to geomagnetic disturbances i wonder if you've had days where it wouldn't work at all, inexplicably. I have a few related curiosities, like whether the toroid likes to settle relative to the direction of the earths magnetic field? or does rotating the bulb along its secondary axis affect the toroid? my bad if you've answered any o these already, and thanks for the motivation to continue my own science tinkering.
So stoked I found your Channel again! Your back!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am!
Man this is amazing. I hope that in couple years i will be able to recreate your project.
Excellent video and a great explanation
i would pay good money to have this, it's sick! great job and keep it up. Also i wonder what would happen if you put the two generators on either end, would it make 2 plasma toroids in one glass?
At 6:15 “dancing more” sooooo awesome!
Oh! thank you very much for the available subtitles!) now everything has become clear
Those animations were awesome. Hope this channel really takes off.
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
thanks, man!
This is so awesome, I'd love to build one in my garage! As for an idea, you have all these plasma desk toys, I think it's time you made a ion thruster desk fan.
Nice job getting the ring to float in the center! That, I think, is what most of us were looking for. It seems like putting a shorted copper loop on the top of the globe would help stabilize the ring - by Lenz's law, it would have the opposite current and flux, and would give you some push-back on the ring. You'd have to play around with the size and thickness of the loop, but it probably would stabilize it over a much larger range of drives. Don't forget that this ring will be dissipating some power, so it might get hot under some circumstances. I'd start out with smaller diameters at large separation from the lower winding.
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
thanks Scott! Would you like one of the element cubes? I think that shorted copper loop is a cool idea!
@scottmiller2591
Жыл бұрын
@@BackMacSci I appreciate the offer - give it to someone else, and keep up the good work!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And will do.
This was really great. Thank you for the lesson! Someday in the near future, we will learn “plasma” heals everything.
I would love to see this with a mixture of xenon and heilium. The gasses sepperating could have interesting effects.
I love everything about this! One thing - "I want y'all to hear something" - then we heard something for about a second and you talked over the rest. Just frustrating. What I heard was really cool
Stunning! That is so cool! How can this tech be exploited? What application can be made to effect or improve something we all use commonly?
Awesome !!! Maybe try using separate coils - one for each current direction. It would simplify circuit design. Collapsing magnetic fields generate a voltage spike in the opposite direction but maybe that's not a problem for air cores. Spikes are usually shorted by a high speed diode or passed backwards through the inherent body diode of the MOSFET. If you got a function generator with multiple outputs you could just basically do everything with that and just amplify the weak signals with mosfets. Also a ferrite core transformer with single wound primary and dual wound secondary might do the trick to split a single input into 2 outputs (if you only have a single output function generator). Maybe use variable resistors to adjust MOSFET gate pull up or pull down. Maybe a coil could be placed on top of the bulb and one on the bottom of the bulb to help plasma float in the center. Might be able to play music in the plasma by playing audio through a third coil - just run the audio through an amp first - speaker coil to side of bulb ??? I have no idea. Anyways great video and great editing!!! I been working on an invention for about 20 years. I will make a video about it maybe next year. Too busy right now.
Awesome! Recently I discovered your videos, superb! Thanks so much, even more you have a document for diy, 10^15 kudos for you man! :D
Dude! That was complete sickness. You're a fricken genius, bro. I'm so jealous. Great video, great explanation of theory and practical application. Kudos!
Thanks for the video and explanation. Would love to try that for myself with a kit and PCB since I don't have much spare time to source the BOM and do it from scratch.
Awesome! Great work man. You are doing what I always wanted to do in college. I never got to the experimental stage because I was dealing with homelessness and had to leave before the end of semester.
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Ah crap, sorry about that man. I hope you are well now!
Hey Tate, great stuff right there. I was looking forward to an update of your shenanigans in your lab, specially working on you toroid. So here's an idea for you; perhaps you can create a 'starting device' to get the plasma going. I was thinking of a Piezo electric starter so you can get your reaction going by the push of a button. It just may be the electric discharge you need to set it off in the right way. You can break an electric lighter or a gas bbq ignitor for example to get this part (or source it in the depths of the Amazonian) It for sure will make a great addition or iteration on your Plasma Toroid and love to see you working it out in the next video! Take care, keep going!
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ron, that’s a great suggestion. I’ve verified that piezoelectric igniters work great as a starter. I’ll mess with it for the next video.
Legit. Awesome. From NZ and will be showing this channel to our high school. I found your approach engaging and will be encouraging oir students to engage with your channel. FYI I am accounting teacher who enjoys science. Keep up the good work. Could you do something around electrostatic floating rings with a difference - conductive object floating between two plates with high voltage but not in contact to creat a quasi stabke levitation -Earnshaw Theory. Also, could look at electrostatic floating rings.
…and thanks for the deeper dive after the outro. Very satisfying:)
Damn, this is so cool! Really good video and explanation! I was thinking, would adding a second coil on top of the glass sphere stabilize more the plasma toroid? With that you could have a more uniform and unidirectional magnetic field and create a more stable circular electric field. I wanna try it myself so much but I don't know where to buy the glass sphere filled with xenon
@BackMacSci
Жыл бұрын
Strattman design is where you get the globes
Nice Circuit walkthrough.. All in all... Top Banana Dude !
Thanks again great experiments!Probably answered already in the many comments, but the sound was audible when the separation of the glass and coil was in a close resonant range so they could talk about it.
All the best of luck for your youtube career 👍
all the luck to you bro!
I'd love to see the toroid "mimic" wave functions if possible. Like the screen on your oscilloscope