Another trash argument I’ve seen is the “if Lil Nas is allowed to express himself then so can DaBaby” which basically translates to “if Lil Nas is allowed to be gay then DaBaby is allowed to be homophobic” like do these people hear themselves?

@meganp2355

2 жыл бұрын

Omg YES!!! I don’t understand how anyone can say that out loud and not hear how absurd they sound!

@uglylovehuman3871

2 жыл бұрын

T.I. said that, and he got A LOT of skeletons in his closet

@nopereradicator

2 жыл бұрын

I think the other side of the argument is that Nas is equally offensive. What does being gay have to do with satan and blood? And on awards shows no less?

@a.d.w8385

2 жыл бұрын

Lil Nas' expression involves only himself and uplifting himself. Dababy's expression is at the expense of others. That's the difference.

@nopereradicator

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.d.w8385 Lol, if you say so.

"Freedom will never trickle down. What trickles down is oppression." Whew. FACTS. Also, it seems obvious now of course, but it's sometimes easy to forget how relatively modern white supremacy ideology and homophobia really is. Lastly, so true about accountability vs consequences. Thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate your voice here on KZread.

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🏾🖤

@mewmew6158

2 жыл бұрын

Allat

@messiahchild3969

2 жыл бұрын

i am not oppressed

@guruuvy

9 ай бұрын

@@messiahchild3969-You will find out that you are one day when a White co-worker lies on you and is believed (with absolutely no proof) and you are punished.

Idc about the dude or his apology …. I really just like to hear you say DaBaBae. However after listening, I must say you make some excellent points.

@mrod87

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly how i got here too. 😂😂

@sebinaeady8857

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly😂😂😂😂

@crystaljanai2229

2 жыл бұрын

I love the way she says it too!!

@YONCE8701

2 жыл бұрын

With a straight face too 🤣🤣🤣🤣❣🤘🏾

@LynnCochran71

2 жыл бұрын

Same on both points. The way she adds 'duh' to the D words...Lord. 🤣

What bothered me most about *his apology* was that he needed people to teach him. No. He needs to learn and put in the work. Your education isn't the emotional labor cost of your victims. It is not their job to show you how you hurt them. It is for you to bear.

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%

@destined2bebossy

2 жыл бұрын

This whole 'let's allow people to grow and learn, we always want to cancel and not teach' BS pisses me off. Most 'cancel' offenses are said/done with intentional negative connotations so at the very least they knew ENOUGH to connect concepts in a shady way. Also, no one has to support you after you've done something they deem unforgivable. Whether you knew the offensiveness is irrelevant, just take it as your privilege of ignorance. Once you're called out it's now the offenders job to learn the why and hope enough people (from said group) are kind enough to forgive. No one is expecting someone to know every potentially offensive thing in the world, but on the flip side, no one should be expecting those offended to be forgiving of every offensive thing as well. It's disrespectful/harmful for a reason.

@alisharo58

2 жыл бұрын

And he’s not a child. And it’s 2021. Does he really need to learn that no one takes kindly to HIV/AIDS comments? No. He already knew that. His words were intentional.

@feliciagray5781

2 жыл бұрын

Y’all don’t mind teaching white folk so why not teach a hood dude?

@Mloveblacque_always

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Google is free and he can learn on his own

I never liked Da Baby’s music but I started to really not like him as a person when I found out he was abusive towards black women and how he treated his black baby mama.

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I like his first song or two, and then realized that all of his music sounds exactly the same. Then, his behavior and statements "in real life" have had me switching the station every time he comes on the radio for _at least_ a year.

@jhoniikemp

2 жыл бұрын

@@nappyheadedjojoba exactly! After the 1st 2nd I was over him. I truly dnt understand how he’s obtained as much stature in pop music as he has. He’s not amazing rapper, his personality sucks, he doesn’t look that good if at all, and he’s abusive!

@jayfreeman5117

2 жыл бұрын

I personally lost a lot of respect for him when he embarrassed and shamed that Flight Attendant.

@AlllSmiless

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhoniikemp lol, the gag is, he fits into the stereotype of every black male artist. So it almost makes sense that he was able to become so popular with out being exceptional or special

@jhoniikemp

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlllSmiless You’re right. It’s truly pathetic. I just noticed with him specifically they were making him into a cash cow

"If you hate gay people more than you love black people, just say that." Can we get this on a shirt?

Thank you so much for speaking on this, Ti. You are so eloquent and articulate, and your vocabulary on this subject is very on point. Love seeing Cisgender Straight Black Women that unbiasedly understands the issues of Blsck LGBT people. Shoutout to you, sis 💯

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

🖤✊🏾

Seems like the 🏳️‍🌈 community more protected than the black women because if he was going to be canceled he should’ve been canceled for his derogatory content against women 💯

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. As I said, the disproportionate outrage and consequences are their own problem. That's still no reason to "let it slide" when he says ish like this.

@Asia.Persuasia

2 жыл бұрын

They are, that's been obvious.

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaejorArray "lol" did you even watch the video? I literally said that there are only consequences because this video got picked up by too many outlets to be ignored AND the offended party includes white people. Hence, the _entire section_ where I talked about disproportionate outrage/consequences, as well as the fact that I said (verbatim, more than once), that DuhBaby will be fine. He ain't "canceled." Once again, all of these things being true does *not* negate the fact that what he said was bigoted and absolutely deserves consequences. We can call out inequities when it comes to outrage, as well as performative outrage. And we can also hold bigots accountable for spreading hate speech and misinformation against groups, even if we don't identify as members of those groups.

@happyblacklegends

2 жыл бұрын

YUP

@bootstraphan6204

2 жыл бұрын

@@nappyheadedjojoba "the offended party inludes white people" More like: "the offended party includes [affluent] white people."

Dababy wants to be educated, but he doesn't want to pick up a book, attend a sociology coarse, or watch a fucking TED talk? I can't!

This is excellent commentary and I have to say that it's a shame that you don't have greater reach, as you deserve more support and love. Such truths and raw power emanating from you is really the voice of a leader.

I'm old, so I don'y know who this guy is. You are correct, there are too many people who won't stand up and say "no, not on my watch" when it comes to hate speech. Thanks for the book recommendation. Always time for Ti.

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I haven't finished The Will to Change yet (trying to stay on pace with my reading group, so I don't want to get too far ahead), but it's really opening my mind in new ways. 🙌🏾

Girl I can listen to you talk about the weather. Your articulation and eloquence are off the charts. Great insights!

Girl it’s the madness and lack of accountability for me. Lol That man only sorry his pockets got hit😂

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

That part.

Great video sis! This gone be a rant. Sis you should have seen the number of people I had to read for supporting this heathen of a man and endorsing his bad behavior. People are actually upset because they are canceling his shows and dropping him for brand deals. I heard folks saying "why don't they leave him alone" This baffled me because black people need to take a page out of the LGBTQ's book when you say something against their community that not only impacts them, but causes harm they come together, gather the person, and all of them stop supporting that person. We can't even get our own people on the same page. This man should have been canceled when he took that young black boy's life, he should have been canceled when he hit that black woman in the face for taking a picture of him, Dababy and many other rappers should have been canceled when they rap about promoting the harm of othee black people and taking lives. Make it make sense! I was thinking about this, but in terms of cancel culture it can be broken down into 3 parts. They are as follows! 1) Accountability (Internal)- Whenever you hear someone saying things that are phobic, colorist, anti-black, etc. All of these things stems from a person internalized traumas and issues that they have not worked to resolve, unpack, or unlearn, which leads them to projecting these insecurities onto innocent people in horrific ways. 2) Accountability (External)- When Da baby made these comments alluding to HIV being synonmous with a person being gay and not understanding that these types of illnesses stems from a person being intimately irresponsible and not wrapping it up "what is also fascintaing is that he does not understand that people can be born with HIV and statistically people who have contracted this illness was not from them running the streets, but came from their partners having outside affairs and bringing it back to them with out their knowledge, but I digress after these comments people from the LGBTQ community held him accountable by not only stopping his bag, but also calling him out for his words and how they impact their community. 3) Cancel Culture- at face value does not exist because you really cannot cancel someone who is a millionaire or have access to substantial amounts of wealth, but I believe this notion is true to an extent because consumers have a lot more power than we think. If people actually stopped buying these folks music, watching their movies, stopped streaming thier music, stopped making videos about them, stopped viewing their content, etc. We could potentially get rid of them. The reason why cancel culture is difficult is because there will always be people that share the same values and perspectives of Da Baby and continue to support him. Another quick note, is that cancel culture exists only as it pertains to communities with actual power. Asian, LGBTQ, white, etc. Hold some form of authority because when you think about the entertainment industry there are so many powerful people such as activist, ceo's, cfo's, content creators, etc. Who are apart of the LGBTQ community so not only were they able to check him, but they were able to black ball him because the number of white artists I have seen getting checked for doing a song with him.

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

I was "yesss"-ing to this out loud so much. "Cancel culture" tends to be more of a thing that idiots complain about, rather than being anything that _actually exists_ because people can't keep themselves accountable to keeping public figures accountable. I "cancel" people/brands all the time, and it has everything to do with _not supporting_ them, and nothing to do with Twitter rants that get pushed down in everyone's feed in And, you are too right about how so many Black folks defending this man don't see how it is legit _the same thing_ when non-Black people don't stand up for us because they think (incorrectly) our oppression doesn't affect them. I had a whole half page of notes getting more into the issue of how much harm is caused by the -- again, INCORRECT -- idea that "gay = AIDS," but the video was getting long and I was losing light really quickly. Spreading these types of lies just so wildly reckless! My God!

@creativequeen8371

2 жыл бұрын

Said it all! 👏🏾

As someone who's identified as both LGBTQ+ and black, I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video and your vehement attitude toward inclusion. The deep rooted hatred of LGBTQ+ peoples within the black community has always puzzled me, mainly because I assumed people who've experienced discrimination based on intrinsic characteristics would be necessarily empathetic towards other marginalized groups... My only complain is that this video wasn't long enough for you delve deeper into the roots of the issue. The same is true for a lot of things you've shared with us. I'd really love to see longer form videos of you analyzing issues in your naturally poetic style. Please do keep up the amazing work, you're amazing !

Off topic, but you are gorgeous!!!😍

@blergyadig

2 жыл бұрын

*Right* What an amazingly beautiful glowing gorgeous human being

@TheAudraReins

2 жыл бұрын

Ti's stunning visage is always on topic🙌🏾

@SweetUareDesi

2 жыл бұрын

Dats on topic

This video should be labeled “years of misogynoir and physical violence against citizens and people are JUST now canceling Da Baby” Why are trash rappers allowed to be trash 🗑 for so long before they are canceled..?

Dang. I wish this had been longer! I was too into it.

I’m here for your dead-on commentary. I’m also here for your gorgeous lewk. This makeup with this headwrap this neckline and this earring 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

"The system is working exactly as it was designed to do"...lest we forget.

***claps enthusiastically*** Girl you SAID that! I agree 100% with every single point.

"Not Amazon." I appreciate you so much. I'm sick of people who recognize issues like this and then follow up with an Audible sponsorship or prop up Amazon Prime or a Twitch Sub kind of countering any progression they're preaching in one issue with letting most of our laws, access to goods, media and information sources, to the power and whim of the few same people because you can't say no to $3 off or not paying $5 shipping.

When you were talking about queerness outdating homophobia, you made and excellent point about how even though the terms we use today may be new to us, people like the ones who identify with them have been around for a long time. It's a bit anachronistic to label 'queer' people of the past as queer, gay, bi, trans, non-binary, etc as many of those terms did not exist in the past. Instead they had other ways of reasoning and conceptualizing their identity. But nonetheless, we have always existed!

@partytime8092

2 жыл бұрын

☝️This. When I used to host educational sessions about trans ppl through my college, I'd say stuff like, "the labels we use are constantly changing but our internal experiences are as old as time," and give examples of past figures who we (2021 western English speaking folk) would call nonbinary or transgender today... WITH THE CAVEAT that the language we refer to ourselves is influenced by how society perceives us. To me, I'm not "queer," at all.

Dababy's name fits him perfectly.

Did people not know he was problematic from the start. He slapped a black women in the face and killed someone. Why didn’t people cancel him then?

As a gay man, I should probably be more focused on what DuhBaby (or however you spell it) said, but I'm more captivated by Ti's jewlery. Is nobody gonna talk about the fact that her earring is a razor blade?! I absolutely LOVE it! You look gorgeous as always!

@talisha5863

2 жыл бұрын

Ti is such 🔥 With everthing👏🏽

“Duh bèbè” is killing me

I know it’s not your job to teach me Ti, but I learn so much from you. Which in turn I teach my son. I appreciate you more than you know, and i your voice has an impact you may not even know. 💕💕💕

Fun fact, I converted to Hinduism about 7 or 8 years ago. In the Devi Bhagavatam there is a story that talks about an androgynous deity named Ila. They are both male and female and switch between sexes and genders about every other month. The texts regarding this non binary deity predate even Monotheism let alone heteronormativity... I'll repeat that... trans gender people have existed since before the idea of monotheism... we exist, and we were here before your Jesus was born.

@peachxtaehyung

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow I didn't know that!

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly -- and there's evidence of this in cultures from all over the world, not just Hindu culture!

@comradeanthony4120

2 жыл бұрын

@@peachxtaehyung en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)

@Xara_K1

2 жыл бұрын

That's true in some African religions as well.

@comradeanthony4120

2 жыл бұрын

@@nappyheadedjojoba Oh of course, I just know the most about Hinduism personally lol.

Sis this is why you're one of my fave youtubers because you ALWAYS come with the true facts and real tea.... 😍😍

Can I just say that your skin is absolutely radiant?

I'm happy you point this out cause so many times bipoc LGBT+ go to wyt ppl for comfort and acceptance since they can't find it within our own, which is sad!

DaBaby is DaDoucheBag

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

🎯

I had to comment: The eloquence that this video has. I genuinely shed a tear at the beauty of the words. Thanks, Ti ❤

He is a grown man with the name of the duhbaby. Nuff said.

I somewhat disagree that homophobia comes from hip hop, if your going to say it’s prevalent in the black community well how did it get there and the answer is, the church. Christianity which probably isn’t most black peoples original religion has taught homophobia but no one talks about that. It’s always the black community fault, they didn’t ask for Christianity.

Half of his apology was a simply copy paste from a message that Miley Cyrus sent to him. Lessons to all who believes freedom of speech "there is a time and place for everything", "think before you speak", "you made your bed lay in it" and "don't let what you think affect your bank".

I don't understand how it's anyone's business who anyone sleeps with. Last I checked love is love.

@Xara_K1

2 жыл бұрын

Love is not love and nothing has ever supported that notion. Whom u sleep with has a communal effect. What is NOT okay is assuming that heteronormative behaviour is right and righteous and all other sexuality is wrong. As far as BP are concerned, it's not whom we sleep with that should be the main factor. Our ideologies are what matters because, as the video says, love for BP should be love for all BP.

@LIONESSOFZION

2 жыл бұрын

Love IS NOT love smh noooooo

@NigelWood117

2 жыл бұрын

I may not agree with homosexuality for myself personally; however, I have never treated anyone poorly because they are . It's funny how people have so much contempt towards individuals because of sexual preference, colour, etc. In high school I didn't have a problem hanging out with gay guys. One of the things I've been known to say to people " What makes people friends is that you have SOME THINGS IN COMMON NOT EVERYTHING." Even my mom, friends, family, classmates, etc. often thought I was a lesbian or bisexual. It never bothered me and a lot of times I didn't correct people just to see how they felt if I were. As for DaBaby, he needs to get educated. I worked in an ID (Infectious Disease) office. I have spoken to the young and mature, educated and less educated, woman, men, etc. I've been there when they learned that they were infected with HIV/AIDS as well as other STI/STDs. I've held them as they cried. I've spoken in barbershop, passed out literature & protection, spoke before our local HIV/AIDS organization, helped with activities at Ryan White and support World AIDS Day. Parents of former classmates would encourage them to speak with me because of their fears on it. I have never treated anyone with HIV/AIDS disrespectful or as if they are the disease or ask how they contracted it. IT'S NO ONE'S DAMN BUSINESS. Even as a teenager I had better sense than DaFool. I never treated my classmates who confided in me any different. I would hug them, sit with them and shake their hands. I'd tell them, "You were stupid yesterday, you're stupid today and 60 years from now you'll be stupid, bald and toothless. I'm going to be right next to you on my walker." I've seen my younger cousin receive this parting gift from her boyfriend. Because he waited to tell her on his deathbed it was to late for her to respond to treatment. A teacher and friend, her husband gave her AIDS. She asked him, "Why?" He said, "Because when I die I'll know you'll always be mine and no other man is going to want you." Like any disease it doesn't discriminate & someone better educate DaArse because he doesn't know what the future may hold for him or someone he loves.

OMG! in the three first minutes you said way more truths about those social questions than I have seen in a lot of video about them. That was intense, concise and direct! And I love it! thx take care xoxo

I'm convinced that people only care about "cancel culture" when they see nothing wrong with the offense.

@homelesshannah50

2 жыл бұрын

Or when it's a BLACK MALE hypocrite

Your Dababy jokes actually made me laugh out loud, even though the subject is no laughing matter. Good video as always, Ti.

Ma'am. I thank God, the Creator, the Universe for you, your work and thoughts. And I can't stop saying De Bébé. It is ridiculous🤣🤣🤣

While insightful and thought out...it's "Da Babé..." for me

Loving your hair wrap sister💗 Beautiful color combination 😊

i just wanna say i was cackling and howling everytime you made a pun with "da"

This video is just so beautiful and healing. Thank you. Black women are the ones changing the world.

Accountability vs Consequence 1:00 Freedom does not exist without safety 2:30 Will to change book 📚 3:30

The way you say his name has me hollering! Lmao

I'm obsessed with your instagram. I've learned from and followed SO many accounts coz of you ❤❤❤

@nappyheadedjojoba

2 жыл бұрын

😃 Love to hear this! IG has *a lot* of problems (including who owns it), but it's also so useful to share information and ideas. ✊🏾

I love the way you think and how you speak about all different types of issues❤️ I feel it also helpful cause I can hear different opinions sometimes too

Tnx for the bell hooks rec. She is brilliant. And all the rest yeah 💯✊

I think you explained this logically and I hope it makes some people who are on the fence really THINK about what is behind this. Thank you so much for the video!💙💙💙

Appreciate your “voice” so much as a Black woman baby boomer ✨

What bugs me about him apologizing to just the lgbt community reinforces the idea that only queer people contract HIV. Of course most of his comments were about gay men, but many people gay and straight live with HIV and its almost like they were kinda erased from the discourse

All of this!! This is why I stay far away from many humans. They’re always missing the point. Even his response to the backlash was disgusting. He didn’t “apologize” until they came for his pockets.

You better give me Moira Rose with the way your hitting that "da bébé" 😂😭😭

I love your wrap! Please share how you created this gorgeous head wrap!

Wow! Your insights into these social issues(racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc.) are laser sharp and should reach a much wider audience. Please continue to post these bon mots and thought-provoking ideas. Your poetry and passion are much appreciated. Beautiful!

I love your spins on words they’re eloquently ignorant

How on earth are people defending a guy whose schtick is to ge on stage ONLY wearing an adult diaper...?

Hey, Pt. 2???

I know u don’t do hair are videos, but can we get a “hair accessory video” ur bonnet/scarf/headwear game is amazing.

I hate this comparison people are trying to make with him facing consequences and the consequences faced by those who do racist things. Some how this has turned into "look how quick they are to defend LGBT but not black people". First of all, that surprises you?? In THIS country?? Second, that's not the issue rn. Just because the bigot in question is a black man does not mean all the complexities of racism are involved with this situation. I can see if he was being honorable and was slighted but at the end of the day he said disrespectful and potentially dangerous things against a group of people. This is not the time to highlight that he is also a black man doing this.

Love this perspective and on point. Everything is connected!!!!!

Love watching your videos because it feels like amongst many I'm alone on this topic.

In all fairness, why can't individuals who DO NOT agree with LGBTQ+ identity/lifestyles express their disagreement as freely as the LGBTQ+ community is allowed to express themselves? Our alignment with or stance against either should be equally respected. Why does it seem as if - more and more - the only individuals "allowed" to express themselves are those who are aligned with the LGBTQ+ movement? Where is the equity in that?

@____toomuch____

2 жыл бұрын

WhY CaNt I bE a BiGoT??

Such a joy listening to you articulate your arguments. Your skin looks d'amazing

I'm tired of our community being the bigots they claim they hate.

We're his red bones, yellow, hello....I guess it's ok for him to insult me as a black woman but he gets canceled for that.....interesting....black woman need to wake up

When I say I love u man yo humor is unmatched

Da baby: "Slap a b**ch! K*ll a n***a!" Audience: bobbing their heads, hands in the air Da baby: g*y people are wrong Audience: you don't belong here! Like what?!

I just love listening to your takes!!! Always such great insight!!

I love to hear your commentaries. Alway on point. Teachable moments for those who don’t know what side they should be on

Whats funny to me is that yes it could be targeted towards the lgbt but its also insensitive towards heterosexual people who have passed away due to this like my grandmother :(

Wow!! I’m new to your channel! Cate the Great had mentioned you in a previous video and boy! Was she not wrong!! You are amazing! Beautiful, smart and and speak so lovely but make such a sharp point!!! I am blown away!! I loved all your points in this discussion. You will definitely be seeing me more in your comment section. 100 percent supporting and loving your content!!!👏👏👏Keep making a difference!!!❤️

Girl when I say I love you and you never miss!!! Please never stop just being you.💕💜❤️💜💕

I'm in the UK, African Caribbean origin. Got rid of one idiot on social media, for his hate speech, about a gay olympian. Disappointed (but, sadly, not surprised...) by the number ofother black folk who didn't call him out. I'm straight, but I bet a good few people will be questioning my sexuality, because I spoke up. I totally agree that if you are more concerned with and offended by - in this guy's case - who someone is sleeping with, due to their sexuality - than you are by the continual oppression and harassment of black people, then I could care less about what you think of me, and I agree, wholeheartedly, that it is YOU that is anti-black. Dude was also bringing the bible, God and Freedom of Speech into his foolish ranting. I just said what I said, about his hypocrisy, and his offensivenrss to me, and unfriended. I'm not putting up with that kind of foolishness around me.

You articulated everything so well.

Loved the outro and the what "da fucqk" comment; plus there's no way you're not at a million right now!!!!

lol i was NOT prepared for that matt damon photo

thank you for talking about this!

Wooooo I'm early! Thanks for speaking on this.

“Da bae bayyyy” I love you Ti😂😂

I wish dude would've just stuck to his guns. No need to apologize. Just believe what you believe, live with the consequences, and never change your perspective.

"Freedom doesn't exist without safety" Wrong. The more Freedom the less "safety". The moment you allow your kids The freedom to go on their own they become less "safe" the moment you hand them car keys and they drive off. However those who trade Freedom to purchase safety lose both and deserve neither

Trickle down oppression(s)...love that you talk about many levels and intersections of oppression

Love this. You’re spot on through and through.

Ok I'm HONESTLY JUST here to hear YOU SAY DA BAEBAE..... AAANNNNDDD my Day is complete 😂😂😂😂😂. BUT AWESOME CONTENT AGAIN BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

Sucks how people are using blackness to defend this man😒

I get intellectually nurished everytime you post!

Not a word out of place. Excellent.

Love it when TI uploads DuhVideos.

So where are the consequences for Matt Damon?

I FUCKING LOVE U!! I been sayn this all week I shared it 5x 🙌🏾

I love your videos. Keep it up 👍🏽

I lived for this. Thank you Ti!!!

I appreciate & respect your voice/ opinions Queen 👑

Establishing false moral hierarchys from which they can dominate.

Lollll the way u throw in those curse words. The most educated sounding swear words and commentary. I'm always blown away when u speak

Your articulation on this issue is perfect