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@ShiningSakura

Ай бұрын

when it comes to scents my mother taught me this..... part of the smell is the fragrance, the other is how it mixes with your personal skin. My mother loved the scent voodoo on her grandmother, but was disappointed when she got it for herself.... that's just life. Don't let that stop you from trying out new fragrances though as something that someone else doesn't like may smell heavenly on you.

@davestrider6004

Ай бұрын

isnt the Scentbird CEO a bad person?

@girlmelanie4

Ай бұрын

So long story short…..they gooped the gurls

@Rightart123

Ай бұрын

😮

@jackoboy

Ай бұрын

what you're doing is illegal , you need to disclose that scentbird that are sponsoring the video at the start of the sponsor segment not at the end of it

Petition for Crunchyroll to never manage Miku Expo ever again

@imjustdandy9799

Ай бұрын

This being crunchyrolls doing literally explains everything

@jamiekosch2562

Ай бұрын

ok heres the thing as i was on sgaet my self me ken omage with miku and the thers the holl toer was being hadlled bey crunchroll even tho thay wer offord help to make it look beter bey how me but no thay watdey to pay uot the bum for a loed tv for ther melidsgaet for all the crunchroll concertsis both me and the thers did not like it but as we did ager to ther agie sis tremsis even tho a lot fo usis did not wat to go on sgaet and do it as for viwersis fans the odenatsis worldwied over we stell did the show as its saydid the show musth go on like it or not this has ben ken omage hadey fo the bad vivi bsis and a frend fo hotsomaymiku or miku hav a nices day

@YinPatterns

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@jamiekosch2562dude how drunk are you?? if your gonna make your paragraph basically impossible to read then its better to just spend your time doing something else instead of writing it😭

@gateauxq4604

Ай бұрын

@jamiekosch2562 what

@sirflimflam

Ай бұрын

suddenly it all makes sense

We should rename the LED screen to ✨Miku's Void✨

@FelicityUwU

Ай бұрын

Some have said it's the Miku box

@KingOfGaymes

Ай бұрын

@@FelicityUwUshe’s stuck in the tv

@FelicityUwU

Ай бұрын

@@KingOfGaymes Exactly

@SanestPjskFan_

Ай бұрын

It's the Vocalvoid I'm sorry

@rexellerainbow1173

Ай бұрын

The void sekai 😨⁉️⁉️

Other problems: -Only 95 glowsticks sold at most of the merch booths (Some even had less) -Not every VIP ticket holder got a VIP goodie bag -No VIP early merch queue (Apparently this was supposed to be added to the VIP tickets) -Some places had it where there was no glowstick limit (Which meant some booths had their glowsticks sold out within the first hour) -Miku cutout got stolen -Miku Expo in Mexico only having roughly 33% of merch available. (Of course no glowsticks available) I really want to go to the Miku Expo 2024 in London. But with the issues, I'll pass and wait until we get these resolved.

@DancingNinja77

Ай бұрын

What’s especially sad about the cutout is that it didn’t belong to the tour, a fan had paid out of pocket to have the cutout and several other things made for the Vancouver show

@jojoslameerrand9305

Ай бұрын

it wasnt 95 glowsticks it was 95 glowsticks per box of glowsticks instead of 100. no clue how many there actually were but definitely not enough

@AnniCarlsson

Ай бұрын

Well with all those issues i kinda get why the cutout was stolen. Then wanted some money back

@warxdrum

Ай бұрын

@mskittygemma you got that from Emily's video, right?^^

@stitchgor3

Ай бұрын

THERES ONE IN LONDON? Oh my god I wish I could go☹️

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree! I was at the Portland show, and we were all holding our breath about the screen. I was definitely sad as it was my first concert, but I'm still glad I went. As a side note, the lightsticks actually aren't synced to the show. There's a button to cycle through the colors! And as far as I know, the reason they usually only allow official sticks is... get this... to not interfere with the projection. So now people are doubly mad that they paid for the official sticks (which were $40 each) when there was no projection to interfere with.

@DancingNinja77

Ай бұрын

Fun fact, they’re $40 USD. When I ordered mine in Canada I ended up paying over $120 CAD total for 2 light sticks, shipping, and customs 🙃 Not to mention that Mexico’s merch was released super late and I heard they won’t get any light sticks online or in person.

@Nyabot-mh2zi

Ай бұрын

RIGHT like I DDINT buy official light sticks, I was gonna bring my love live ones and then they said to not bring them so I had nothing to do with my hands the whole show 😭😭😭

@nxctem

Ай бұрын

⁠@@Nyabot-mh2zi with the way security was in not checking for official penlights, yours would have been fine 😓 I brought unofficial ones because of a hack where you put paper in the penlight tube to diffusse the light. Rolled up printer paper got them to the same brightness as officl ones and the color match was exact (save foe the extra colors it had). I saw some others too with unofficial ones, so it’s wack they did all that to insist buying official ones and unofficial ones still made it in.

@Kyosumari

Ай бұрын

@@nxctem Just need to do better and not out yourself like a toddler and you can usually get away with anything. I've seen people sneak in drugs without batting an eye. Im sure you can do it for some lights. lol.

@user-yd7zw3kt7i

Ай бұрын

高いお金を払ってTVを見せられたのですね。クリプトンに抗議しておきます。

I wouldn't be surprised if fans take this to court over not delivering the standard they've been promised For this amount of money if they get together they could have a good case

@KazzieBB

Ай бұрын

I believe they tried to with the VIP merch that they didn't receive. I don't know if there's enough substance to form a lawsuit, though

@MadamRose_

Ай бұрын

Can someone well-versed in American law try and confirm whether this is doable in a civil lawsuit? I don't know a thing about this so I wanna pass it to someone who knows what they're doing

@betheleanor

Ай бұрын

somebody get legal eagle into vocaloid

@thatonellamawhoissoobsesse8138

Ай бұрын

Questionable considering this happened because their main sponsor went bankrupt My eyes are more at Cochella not delivering with the holographic screen knowing their 'luxurious reputation'

@SilverSymphony9

Ай бұрын

@@thatonellamawhoissoobsesse8138WHAT

"we wanted to see the magic trick" THAT'S THE THING THAT MAKES VOCALOID CONCERTS WORTH IT!! coming from someone with no emotional attachment to vocaloids, that is THE thing other than the audience atmosphere that makes vocaloid _concerts_ make real sense, rather than just doing movie theatre showings or online streaming. seeing a cartoon character that even kinda-sorta looks like they're standing on the physical stage in front of you just scratches a particular itch in a way that a poorly integrated screen just _can't_

@Kyosumari

Ай бұрын

It is literally THE marketing gimmick of a miku concert to begin with. I think in America with enough resources you'd actually have a valid case for legal repercussions for not delivering a product that is up to par with their advertising and past events.

@taleef1760

Ай бұрын

I have an obsession with Haunted Mansion so the Peppers ghost effect is super cool to me. The idea that they replaced that with a freaking TV is insane!

@spiritmuse

Ай бұрын

Exactly! I'm not really particularly into vocaloid music that much (it's good music but my main interests just lie elsewhere), but I would love to go to a concert like that, it would be so freaking cool!

@ggyytgcvc

Ай бұрын

I literally had no clue about any of this, but I was at the lady Gaga concert where Miku opened and that shit blew my mind and I just found out today what it was lol

@chloskyskies4399

Ай бұрын

@@ggyytgcvcTHERE WAS A LADY GAGA CONCERT WHERE MIKU OPENED?!

Coming out on the day we get news that there are NO LIGHTSTICKS for the Mexican part of the tour, due to "transportation issues"

@ivette_png1091

Ай бұрын

I really hate it! I feel they are just laughing and playing with our money at this point…

@akabaneaki

Ай бұрын

WHAT OMG THEYRE JOKING

@pliktl

Ай бұрын

I am guessing that it has to do with the fact that the glowsticks can be opened and filled with xyz substances, and the fact that there were huge boxes of them. Border customs probably took one look and said "We do NOT have the manpower to inspect every item" and chose to refuse its passage into Mexico, probably storing the merch stateside.

@artsyscrub3226

Ай бұрын

@@pliktl Conserts send stuff like that all the time, i bet they didn't even try to comply with customs and just said "fuck it we aren't paying money they won't care anyways."

@Dr.Twat.Waffle

25 күн бұрын

@@pliktl does that happen a lot going _in_ to Mexico though?

The *funniest* thing about this is that there *is* a way to camouflage the LED screen by using an OLED screen and a one-way mirror (the same thing DISNEY uses for holograms) so it's hilarious that they don't.

@ItsActuallyKate

Ай бұрын

There are transparent led screens too😭

@Kyosumari

Ай бұрын

@@ItsActuallyKate Literally any effort at all would have been better, yeah. XD

@travelonward1811

Ай бұрын

IM SO GLAD SOMEONE SAID THIS. Disney theatrical technician here. THIS SHOW IS DISRGRACEFUL. North America tours has some of the BEST THIRD PARTY RIG TEAMS ON EARTH. So much so they've hired us in Afghanistan , Greece, Spain , and yes Japan. Field entertainment, pro sound , rhinos , Rebecca's. These are teams that do most events people ever watch. I do not know what team was hired for this show. I'm sure the team itself was just following orders as our job is. But there's so many tech teams that have the mobile technology to have done this just fine and completed the custom syncing transfers properly. No matter the excuse this is unacceptable

@lordelliott42

Ай бұрын

@@travelonward1811 Looks to me like it just went to the lowest bidder.

@darknessblades

24 күн бұрын

And use Samsung "The wall" panels to make a 500 inch display, that feels part of the stage.

heard a joke that she became flat because she was becoming magic the gathering cards (which is real. miku is on magic the gathering cards) someone please free her from two dimensional cardboard hell

@Hello-bs8dn

Ай бұрын

NOO WE HAVE TO SAVE MIKU

@Somebuffoononline

Ай бұрын

WE NEED TO RETURN HER TO THE THIRD DIMENSION

@the_homun_system

27 күн бұрын

i must announce they just revealed more miku cards. she remains trapped cursed by a witch into a flat prison

@ibnl2

11 күн бұрын

Im both a fan and an MTG player for 10+years to be honest, I don't like those cards in anyway, the ART arn't even close to her fan art..... just some slopy work....

I thought my disappointment couldn't have gotten worse after I found out about the TV screen but today I woke up to the news that the tour in Mexico, where I live, is not selling the glow sticks. Bro.. they are ACTIVELY TRYING to make sure we have a bad time. This whole tour is a disaster and then some.

@Kyosumari

Ай бұрын

Apparently Crunchyroll was the biggest sponsor for the event and got caught committing federal level consumer fraud in the middle of organizing the tour, and went bankrupt - so all of the disaster is because the main sponsor for the event were scumfucks that went bankrupt and instead of refunding people (because they were bankrupt) they milked millions for a half assed TV watch2gether. xD

@4n631ic0b1ivi0n

Ай бұрын

In the case of México, Mikuexpo have always had issues with merchandise. Due to Mexican Border customs certain merchandise can't pass without throughly being inspected which can take literally days up to a week. The first Mikuexpo in mexico was a complete nightmare. Not only the merchandise did not make it in time, but even the VIP package gifts bags were missing. Crypton had to issue an apology to the Monterrey concert and the first day of the mexico city concerts for having nothing to sell. They eventually send the VIP gifts bags through the mail to all the VIP tickets holders. I guess is that they are only bringing the merchandise that gives less issues while crossing the Mexican border.

@maskedfoxx7173

Ай бұрын

@@4n631ic0b1ivi0n If they know it's going to be an issue why not work it out in advance rather than throwing their hands in the air and admitting defeat? It really shows how they don't care. They'd rather we all get completely screwed than just try a little harder than normal.

@4n631ic0b1ivi0n

Ай бұрын

@@maskedfoxx7173who knows, mexican border customs is infamously unpredictable. It can can be quick or take forever(I cross the border the us/mex quite frequently so i have a bit of an idea).

@artsyscrub3226

Ай бұрын

@@4n631ic0b1ivi0n It's still their responsibility to try and make it work, or alert cuatomers before hand that glowsticks may or may not be there, the promised customers they would be and they didn't provide them even when people paid for them.

Something else they could have done is...have a few big screens on the sides of the stage for closeups of the performers you know WHAT THEY USE FOR IRL PERFORMERS, but yeah...do SOMETHING with that black void box for cripes sake

@KingOfGaymes

Ай бұрын

It’s weird cuz they did that at all the past expos.. not sure why they skimped out this time when the venues probably already have them

@theninjamaster67

Ай бұрын

@@KingOfGaymes From what I've seen from comments on this video and a few other videos all these issues and the general cheapness vibe of this tour can basically be directly attributed to Crunchyroll being the one in charge of the Miku Expo instead of the usual company who does it (which apparently went bankrupt according to one comment but I haven't fact checked this yet).

Yes. While the “standard” Miku performance is not quite the same thing as “live on stage!”, this is the equivalent of selling tickets to a live concert tour, but the performers stay home and each venue shows a pre-recorded performance instead.

@LynnHermione

Ай бұрын

or they just lip-synch and don't bother to dance well. so basically a blackpink concert :)

@worldsedge4991

Ай бұрын

@@LynnHermione Eyeroll.

Corrections: The added animations for Ten Thousand stars was already there in previous concerts, so they didn't take advantage of the LED screen and add new animations. The light sticks don't sync up to the concert. Non-miku lightsticks were banned because of the hologram screen interfering with the projection (which doesn't matter now its an LED screen).

@EnchantingELK

Ай бұрын

Yeah I went to Miku Expo 2018? in London and snuck in my own lightstick - i was going to replace the batteries, but when i put them in it was OBSCENELY bright especially compared to my friends' Miku Expo lightsticks. So I just took it in with the low batteries and it was fine! (The price of the lightsticks were absolutely ridiculous even back then, especially for something less bright and with less colours)

@EnchantingELK

Ай бұрын

and honestly, that Miku Expo was so badly organised as well, I feel like its a common thing sadly 💀 When I bought merch, I ticked what i wanted on a sheet of paper and yet they still gave me the wrong things so I had to go back and try to tell them. And when the queue finally happened to go inside the concert hall from the big room they had barely anything to do in (we ended up leaving for food and coming back) it was so unclear where the hell the queue started that we're pretty sure we accidentally cut the line at some point.

@fuwam.266

Ай бұрын

I went to the Toronto show in 2016, the vectors looked incredible even then.

@Dr.Twat.Waffle

25 күн бұрын

im still not understanding how light sticks can interfere with a projection. it's a money grab... that is really it

what baffles me is that they got as screen... and then made SURE you ABSOLUTELY SAW it was a square screen. what in tarnation

The juxtaposition between this video about the NA Miku expo being bad vs Jaidenanimations latest video talking about how great her experience at the japanese Miku expo is night and day edit: correction, the Japanese concert is called Miku Mirai

@Sundropz

Ай бұрын

yeah cause some ppl have no backbone.... most ppl that went still had fun but that doesn't change the facts this company is not new to scams.

@chaiteeths3373

Ай бұрын

@@Sundropz did you read the comment before replying

@betheleanor

Ай бұрын

⁠@@Sundropz i can’t speak to the company being scammy but jaiden went to magical mirai in japan last year, and it did look like they had the pepper’s ghost effect. i’m sure if she’d seen her at the expo this year in america her experience would have been different

@ayayalgueewe9361

Ай бұрын

oh noo you're right 😭

@KingOfGaymes

Ай бұрын

The Japan concerts are called Magical Mirai, Miku Expo is only the tours outside Asia

I felt so terribly bad for everyone who paid so much money and were so excited. I hope they redo a tour sometime in the near future the proper way.

@KingOfGaymes

Ай бұрын

Miku usually comes to North America every two years, the problem is that she only goes to a few cities and the cities change every 2 years as well.. like this time she’ll go to Chicago but next time she won’t, so for us in the Midwest we won’t see Miku back here until 2028 😭

@sc0rpi0-pt2xh

Ай бұрын

I went but I didn’t know what to expect due to the fact that I knew it would either be a hologram on screen. To me it seemed like she was onstage even on screen like it looked like her feet were on stage but obviously there were other issues like lightsticks and stuff. It was still exciting and fun but I definitely wasn’t what most people wanted

@jojolyneee

Ай бұрын

​@@KingOfGaymes oh damn ig it's over for us then 😭

@ShiggitayMediaProductions

Ай бұрын

@@KingOfGaymes Yeah I feel you... I hope they come back to Boston or at least NYC, cuz from Boston to NJ is a hike.

I feel so honored to be a part of a Sarah Spaceman ad read Sincerely, Domino's Miku and Spamton Miku

@MyFictionalChaos

Ай бұрын

HI 🍕

@sweeetjuicetv

Ай бұрын

i loved the silly little spamton miku omg, ur cosplay is so good too !!!

I feel bad particularly for any cosplayers stuck in the rain, i know a lot of cosplays and props are really delicate and cant withstand the water damage or getting washed afterwards so that must've sucked to deal with

@MyFictionalChaos

Ай бұрын

Props aren't really supposed to be allowed in the venue, but everyone's wig and makeup were getting messed up for sure

@imcs

Ай бұрын

@@MyFictionalChaos yeah, most standard props wouldnt be allowed given the limits on what you can bring in. though remember that not all props are held! i'd argue that rin and len's headphones, when making a cosplay, would count as a prop of sorts. even if you dont consider them props, i feel awful for the len/rin cosplayers. you dont really wanna be getting actual headphones wet, and you dont really wanna be getting cardboard/styrofoam/other foams wet either, even if they're sealed. it was a total mess all-round, fr. they could've planned in advance and set up some marquees, or an alternative queue with actual cover 😔

Just saw Expo in Detroit and 100% you hit all the issues. It's not the screen. It's how they used (or didn't) use it! They all looked trapped in a box. Don't get me wrong, I had a great time, but it could have been so much more! Why isn't she 10 feet tall? Why didn't they render the back of the stage? Hell, why didn't they have literally ANYTHING in the background??? I really hope they listen to the criticism and do better. The band was awesome. No complaints there. 10/10 hire them again.

@lu-metal1232

Ай бұрын

I remember thinking "why not make her taller?" tho I feel it might mess with the immersion. that is just me tho, but what they could do to make her more visible is maybe have her stand on an elevated platform that's not just the stage's floor. front or back you could still see her

@kunari3310

28 күн бұрын

That is just wasting time if they not listen damn it.. The band banger too man

@Dr.Twat.Waffle

25 күн бұрын

@@lu-metal1232 what immersion though... it's a tv

The best way I can describe it -- Hatsune Miku is like Santa Claus -- we all know he's fake, but that's not the point. It's the event, the people, the atmosphere, the cosplay, and everything in-between that manifest her into existence. She is the spirit of the season. The "hologram" is the validating factor, but when the fourth wall is literally broken, it's like telling kids they can visit Santa via a Zoom call. It just... ain't it. And ultimately that's the issue, that the people running the event genuinely didn't care enough about this experience and thought people would spend their rent money to Zoom call Santa rather than meet an old man cosplaying him at the mall.

I wanted to go but when the news about the LCD screen started going around I changed my mind also bc prices were absurdly high in the countries I was considering.

@kuroi350

Ай бұрын

*LED screen sorry the autocorrector ;;

@MyFictionalChaos

Ай бұрын

The prices started to go down drastically (in some places) after they confirmed the rest of the tour would be LED screens. So I snatched my ticket up then

Oh lord they EMPHASIZE the LED screen by putting gawdamn lighting around it instead of attempt to hide it HAHAHHA

I think what's extra weird is that it's not like the Hologram system isn't in the states already or unavailable. They use them here. Why didn't they rent a local one for the tour?

A friend of mine went to the Atlana Miku expo. He told me that his group had umbrellas so they wouldnt get soaked and security wanted them to take them to their car and wait in line AGAIN. He ended up talking to security and so many people hand umbrellas i guess they just gave up and let them in but still he was very annoyed at that part.

My first Miku Expo was the 2016 tour in Toronto and seeing the hologram after nearly a decade of being a vocaloid fan was such an amazing experience. It was also my last since they didn’t include Canada in the 2018 tour and the 2020 tour was cut short. I’m still going to the Toronto show this Thursday and I’m pretty sure I’m going to have a good time, but I’m also really disappointed by the screen/lack of effort put in to make the screen look good- especially since their ads for the tour said they’re using the projectors. Generally though, I just feel really bad for everyone who has said this is their first Miku concert ever. They’ve been waiting for years for this, just like I had back in 2016 (and still have been since 2016), and they won’t get the same experience

@FeatheredWingz

Ай бұрын

Same hat! I was there in 2016 too. I have ALSO seen the first "test performance" of Miku '""live""' in Toronto a couple yrs before that too (2013, I think)? She wasn't hologram for that performance. It was basically just a screening of the pro-recorded Japanese concert from that year. But that made sense, it was the first time they tried a Miku concert in Canada they weren't gonna invest in tour travel & setting up the venue for a big hologram concert unless they knew they were gonna sell enough tickets to profit. But they were upfront about it in the advertising too. THIS? Is sad.

@BanazirGalpsi1968

Ай бұрын

So how's the refund effort going? Hopefully very well?

@stinkyroachgirl8565

Ай бұрын

i’m supposed to go to the show thursday but i think im gonna sell my tickets cuz this is disappointing and also the set list is kind of ass

@moblinfodder8846

Ай бұрын

I was going to say this! I was at the 2016 Toronto tour and while you could see the big piece of acrylic if you paid attention, the hologram effect was awesome. I was blown away how it looked like they were on the stage. Kind of glad I didn’t buy into this year… I have no idea how they could do it right before and now this tour is so messed up.

@thetinglessasmrtist

Ай бұрын

Lucky you, Miku was supposed to perform in Montreal for the 2020 tour but was not included in the 2024 tour... I don't know if I should feel sad that I missed the Toronto show despite the LED screen fiasco

Going to the Miku fake hologram is one thing, but paying this amount of money to see a not even that good light show on LED screen is straight up robbery. 🤡

14:53 NERD ALERT HERE time for a mini history of lights in k-pop and j-pop :D Penlights have been used in jpop as early as 1974 for Saijo Hideki. They exploded in popularity in the 90s, and began coming in all shapes and sizes (notably A.B.C-Z’s “Wolverine claw” penlight). K-Pop light sticks were popularized by the group BigBang in 2006! Member/leader G-Dragon wanted a way to identify the group’s VIP fans at concerts, so he designed a light with a crown on it and called it the BangBong. Before BigBang, fans held up balloons in support. J-pop penlights and k-pop lightsticks most notably differ in that penlights tend to be your specific, vs k-pop’s artist specific lightsticks which only get updates every few years (if ever). The classic light stick we know of today (dome with a logo inside it) is credited as being popularized by the BTS Army Bomb in 2015. Please do correct me if I got any details wrong!

@MyFictionalChaos

Ай бұрын

Yes!!! I vividly remember BTS popularizing them even though the "glowstick" ones have been around forever

After seeing the japanese shows with Miku, I would love to experience that too but I would be so pissed off if the result was a "huge" LED-screen. Like I'm small and it sucks if I cannot see the stage if I happen to be in the back or something while standing (also health reasons are why I prefer sitting seats which are usually in the back). Seeing the footage just baffles me.

for me the led screen makes me focus more on the cubes/lights in the background rather than on Miku whilst hologram miku blends nicely with the backround lights making it easier to focus on her

I was at the DC Miku show, I got standing room General admission tickets. NGL I cried once I found out she was led since it's been my dream since I was 12 to see a Miku concert (I'm 25 now). My biggest complaint by far was her size, she took up maybe a 3rd of the screen (half being generous lol) and I literally could not see the first 3-5 songs because I was towards the back of the crowd. My partner was literally helping me jump to see some of the performances. The crowd eventually shifted and I could see, and I overall had a great time! I just wish I could've seen her the whole time.

@naychan_cosplay

Ай бұрын

I was at the DC show too and was only able to see about 1/3 of the show with how small she was from the middle of the GA standing room and the rest of it I watched through peoples phones 😢. If they had to do the LED they should have at least done close ups of her on the sides like other concerts so everyone could see her. The crowd really saved the concert for me

@creditsforCatnip

Ай бұрын

I was also at the DC show but drove in about 3 hours from Philly-- I got there around 3pm and waited near the front of GA (and yet they ran out of glowsticks before VIP was even in) and I was able to get a spot near the front left side and even then being able to see her was a little difficult just due to the crowd. I think any further back than where I was it would've been near impossible to see them at all. And also for just an hour long show?? I was surprised it wasn't longer given how many songs they all have, like everyone had two songs and then the rest was just Miku. It was a long way to drive just for an hour long show!

@kiriekagarino

Ай бұрын

i was also at the dc show and it was my first miku expo. i had wanted to go for so long and to find out she was LED and not a hologram, i almost sold my tickets until someone else convinced me to think about the memories i would share with my friend instead. i also brought in a light stick that was non official and i didn't get stopped during back check. i went and i was maybe....in the middle of the front? that was lucky on my part but i'm short, so i also spent my time looking through my phone or other people's phone for the concert (i had to record on my tippy toes) miku looked trapped in a box the whole time and i expected it to at least go on 30 minutes longer than it did. I paid about 90-100 bucks for GA, and i didn't realize it was going to only be an hour show. i did have fun but that's a lot of money for a tv show where i had to look at miku through another tv (my phone) despite having an good-ish spot on the floor.

@SincerestSawa

Ай бұрын

if you have a pc and vr headset you can see miku sing and dance as much as you want, more immersive experience

I wish they did more crowd interaction and more interesting bits with the sets, at least. When miku stood on the "speakers" it was my favorite thing ever!!

@Kyosumari

Ай бұрын

And the worst part is that was just recycled pre-recorded moves, so the ONE thing that stood out wasn't even done specifically for the show. Just adds insult to injury.

There are also see-through screens and there’s a new type of screen that came project images on it from a computer while still being see-through. Can’t remember what it called. And it’s like plastic wrap

@ItsActuallyKate

Ай бұрын

I was just thinking that, ive seen COSPLAYERS use the transparent screens, also youtubers evan and katelyn got one to make a whole ass computer monitor transparent. A youtube couple did more than crunchyroll

@anitacrumbly

Ай бұрын

@@ItsActuallyKate evan and katelyn should have been in charge of creating the show. imagine the amount of resin they would use lol

As a UI designer I stg them using the SAME MOTION GRAPHICS for every set was disappointing for me. I had fun, but I'm not sure it was worth the money.

I went to the show in Newark and once we were finally let in the merch line wrapped around a city block TWICE and there were 2 people running the merch stand. I had to miss four songs before I ditched and ordered a hoodie online. Her set list was insanely short for someone with NO STAMINA!!! I was also disappointed that there was no opener! When she was at NYC in 2016 Anamanaguchi opened for her and debuted Miku! This show was a HUGE let down compared to 2016

@swirlybun9616

Ай бұрын

I missed 5 songs and I sometimes regret not ditching earlier. That doesn’t mean the whole concert was bad though. Merch lines are known to be long. It was only ridiculous because there was a shit ton of people.

There was NOTHING more frustrating that when they would drop the lights and for just a moment it would look like she was really there. The lights and set were amazing but because they crossed behind the TV they interfered with the illusion!!! It was so frustrating!! Like you're showing me we COULD have had something close to what we thought we were getting when we paid, but no!!! The crowd energy was for sure the best part. Everyone was so excited and all dressed up. We all lost our mind for the band introduction, which was maybe the most electric part, lol. Also, attending the Portland show I was AMAZED by how efficient the venue was at getting people in the door, like holy shit. Appreciating that more seeing how you guys got rained on! Jeez!

I was at the same miku concert in Atlanta! It was my first vocaloid concert so I was just happy to be there. The crowd was definitely 80% of the fun. I'm bummed that we didn't get the hologram though.

Thanks Pins for digging through Twitter for our enjoyment 😂

There was a stage in Coachella where the background was just a huge LED screen with the visuals of giant CG freaky beautiful creatures/women moving to the music was still mesmerizing.

im a casual fan but i could not imagine the disappointment everyone felt when they realized there was no hologram. its downright criminal that they didnt disclaim that until AFTER the shows started. as always, something like this is all about the fans and not the people running the show, and im glad yall still had a good time

not sure if anyone else has mentioned, but when HololiveEN came to LA they used LED screens and it actually looked incredible. the sets blended into the stage and they made the idols bigger (i think). if the organizers took the LED route i just i wish they would've considered putting more thought into the show.

I was very disappointed about missing the VIP tickets, I went to the last one in Barcelona before lockdown and had the best experience of my life so far. Weirdly there was no concert in this location this year so it saddened me even more, but honestly when I saw these videos of that big black screen in the middle and also that feeling of emptiness without the musicians and the big stage changed my mind LOL And I really don't agree with people trying to defend the screen because at least it looks "brighter" I had no issues with the past screen, Miku and the other Cryptonloids were visible very well, the quality is different indeed but it wasn't needed honestly.

twitter made a WHOLE ICEBERG of everything that happened at the miku concerts, it was truly a disaster the dashcon comparison came from someone allegedly peeing on the floor

Okay so the closest Miku expo to my home was eight hours away so I didn’t buy a ticket. But seeing how the concert turned out, it looks like I dodged a bullet. Good video, Sarah! It was very informative on why the LED screen looked so awkward.

I also went to the Atlanta Miku Expo! It was my first Miku Expo and I've been a Miku fan since 2015. The people were great, the cosplayers looked amazing. It was fun missing school that day so my mom had time to drive us all the way to Atlanta so we could get in line early. I really wish it was a hologram and yeah I'm still disappointed that it wasn't, but even with the LED screen, I still had a great time! Even my mom who only knows vocaloid because of me, enjoyed it, lmao

@ksmart1235

29 күн бұрын

Same

I have been waiting for this! Am I a cosplayer? No. Did I know who miku was before you told me in a video? No. Do I sew or ever seen an anime? No. But I absolutely love these videos. I watch them for Sarah’s personality and the crazy effort put into each video. 💛

Mexico's concert is going to be in a week. They just announced the merch we will have, and it's like 1/4 of the merch available in US and Canada, PLUS NO LIGHTSTICKS. So yeah, they're finishing the tour giving us Mexicans the shortest end of the stick ever lmao.

They actually used this same LED screen at a one day concert a few weeks before the NA tour began but only in Japan did they just like you said they should put stuff around the edges, they did! In Japan. So hmmmm. 🤔smells of Crunchyroll budget cuts.

The stage in Dallas was a little better since they kinda hid the top of the screen but it was sooooo over sold. It was so crowded that people got over heated and passed out and I got hit by a stray light stick.

i bought tickets to the london show... i payed to see the miku hologram bc that's what ive dreamt to see for 10 years. i'm a very sentimental person so i feel like its gonna "ruin" the whole experience for me. i dont know if i should cancel (if thats even possible) and hope that the hologram will come back soon (possibly never will), or go and (worst case scenario) sour the entire concept of vocaloid for me (yeah im serious) i bought seat tickets on the side (since i cant stand for a long period of time) so any sort of immersion is probably gonna be impossible.. also a trip to the uk just to see miku on a LED screen in my condition is not a good idea but i love vocaloid so much and this might be my only chance

@Kyosumari

Ай бұрын

The asking price for attendance in modern economy is literal theft without the one thing they're known for even being provided - I get what you mean, and I'd be the same. If I bit the bullet and spent that much money for a disaster of an experience I'd be less likely to ever take that gamble again - these aren't a weekend movie, these were a quarter to half of someone's paycheck in entry fees. Not ok to be so blatantly uncaring and lazy about it.

@Libby-Phantom

Ай бұрын

jump ship, I went to the good one in 2020 and I can tell you that the hologram is a very important part

I went to the Newark show. It was my first MikuExpo and I've been wanting to go since around 2011, so while I had a good time and I'm glad I went, I WAS a little disappointed too. I was a bit far back in the stadium but not too bad, but afterwards I just thought "Wow, I would've had to cough up front row/pit money if I wanted to have the experience I really came here for." The crowd was AMAZING though, I absolutely adore the energy we all have for the same thing, it's definitely what I'll remember the most. edit: words are hard

@0livision

Ай бұрын

I went to the Newark show too! I gotta say it was extremely unorganized and they could have done better with the management. Also waited in a chaotic merch line and was almost late to the beginning of the show. But I made it, and I had a good time anyway. I didn’t like the fact the energy wasn’t as hype as the shows you see on KZread :(

@yeslikealucard

Ай бұрын

@@0livision Interesting! I was able to preorder my merch so I didn't even pay attention to the merch lines? Sad to hear it was unorganized though. :/ My section* of the stadium was going absolutely wild but yeah regardless I can see what you mean. 😭Still I hope you had a good time! *autocorrect hates me

Thanks for pointing out the stage issue, i really couldn't pin what was bothering me about the void and how to fix it. Im glad im not the only one that thought the could've done more with the tech.

While I'm happy to see more videos talking about the whole Miku Expo thing from bigger creators there are a couple little misconceptions I guess? That I wanted to point out. The visuals talked about at around 10:55 , this is the song "Ten Thousand Stars" by Circus-P which was the song contest winner for Miku Expo 2016. You can see this exact same choreo/visuals being performed on the "holographic" screen if you look up recordings of MikuExpo 2016. The LED does not give them the ability to use these sort of graphics and imo it looks way cooler on the "hologram" screen The penlights are NOT bluetooth I have 2 Miku Expo 2024 official glowsticks that I used throughout the Newark, NJ show, the people changing their glowsticks ahead of time just memorized the setlist. And the message talked about at 15:14 about 3rd party glowsticks, *usually* this is because 3rd party glowsticks are brighter than Miku ones and cause excessively bright reflections onto the panel (and thus could ruin the show a little), not because of them 'syncing' to the music. This year I (personally) fully believe that this rule was still in place so that they could just milk everyone on $40 penlights under the illusion that it was still a "hologram" since the glowsticks went on sale a month before the Vancouver show even happened.

I went to the atl show as well! It was my first miku concert ever and my friend and I had a really good time. Like you and many others have said, the crowd was the best part of the show. We were in VIP and everyone was super nice and respectful. I use a cane so I was pretty nervous about hitting people on accident or dropping it but everyone would move to let me through and would make sure I was okay when I did eventually drop it. Also the nicest person who sat next to us pre-show had extra earplugs and was handing them out! imo, it was worth what we paid and I would recommend going if you have tickets, even if you’re bummed about the hologram!

OMG seeing how far you were on the crowd, makes me SO SCARED but also happy to see that ?? All the people i see saying "the screen wasn't that bad comon !" ARE IN FRONT OF IT i had so much trouble finding like side views and far away one, cause my place is seated and a bit on the side so i am anxious, and omg on your vids you cna barely see Miku i am soooo scared to not be able to see heeer ToT (i have garbage eyesight too) so thank you for including so many images you found AND took, very insightfull I will very much still go to the Paris concert because it's only the 3rd time she is coming in France and the first I can go, i CANNOT miss the queen 🙏 but omg i am containing both rage and hype regarding this concert 😭

@annaairahala9462

Ай бұрын

I was in Toronto on the floor and it was amazing for me! I really thought it would make a bigger difference to the experience than it actually did. The images definitely don't give the same impression as it's hard to get good pictures of a screen or projection for that matter, I hope you have fun!

I was there and I'm a fan of you and your video's, They are so entertaining and fun. I'll be going to Momocon 2024 and I really hope to see you there this year!!

This was exactly what happen to me as well. Same feeling and Dallas felt the same way as well. Our show did not even have seats and they oversold the venue for our show night and it was not great.

I went to the Newark NJ concert, it had the normal complains of the screen is jarring and the merch line is impossible but we did have an extra issue. I think the venue wasn’t ready for the amount of people because they had the VIP line and general all messed up to the point that we had VIP’s entering the venue after the concert already started. It was really a mess I’m Lowkey glad I’m ADA because there wasn’t a chance I would had gotten inside in time otherwise

I am glad you covered this. Everything you said was EVERYTHING I was thinking! Make her bigger, do segmented screens, etc.if you are going to do LED screens.

@Kyosumari

Ай бұрын

If you're going to do something, DO IT - The likelihood of this damaging the chances of turnout, sales, and future attendance if this becomes a pattern in the US is not zero. Im only a casual vocaloid fan but I would be livid if I paid more than 40 bucks for the level of 'quality' they gave. And that's being generous. I agree with you - there's so so so many places they could have at least TRIED at ALL, and it would have made the entire experience way better.

I was stoked when she got announced for 2020 Coachella. Had to wait till 2024 to actually see her live. Saw her on Weekend 1 and Weekend 2 and it was awesome but it did feel a bit lackluster due to the LED panels

I was at the Dallas show and I personally had an AMAZING time, our venue was a lot smaller than the others and I feel like this had a big affect on the experience. From the angles I saw of the concert the illusion was pretty solid and it only really looked like a TV when I thought about it or when they used a lot of white lighting. The crowd was amazing, the live band was great, and I would go again in a heartbeat!

Honestly at this point I'm blaming Crunchyroll The way they handled the Ado tour should've been enough for them to stop trying to manage touring.

I requested a full refund as soon as I saw what was going on because I paid almost 300$ for vip, a plane ticket to Atlanta and a hotel stay just to see miku and they turned her into an led screen smaller than what I’ve seen in many conventions, so nope. Nothing could’ve made spending that much money on it worth it unless they actually brought the hologram back. Also the fact they didn’t have enough merch for the vip attendees was crazy. They also didn’t give vip priority so if you actually wanted any merch you would have to be in line for at least 9 hours prior to the concert. It was a huge disaster and that’s without talking about the fact that this miku expo was the most expensive expo in all of her years as an AI idol with tickets in Orlando going for as much as 3000$

I had a really good time on the April 17th show and it was amazing

I was waiting for this video!!!

Oof, this is like going to a magician's show to see the "saw someone in half" trick, but then you can see that two people get into the box. Yeah, everyone knows that there won't be real murder, but you came to see the trick! I'm glad the festive energy wasn't ruined though

yes ugh, thank you for talking abt this

hearing about this makes me so glad I got to see her tour in 2016. the Toronto show was amazing and I loved it back then. when I heard she was coming back i was tempted to go see the Chicago show but after hearing about the "screen" i decided against it. it just wouldn't be the same.

I was wondering if you were gonna discuss this!

i went to the show in dc and left early bc i forgot ear protection LOL but i got to meet my online friend so it was so worth it

I went to see the concert in Atlanta too with my cousin. Yeah, it's a bummer there was no hologram, but still I enjoyed the concert.

I wondered if this video was coming. I was rewatching some of your videos and heard you say about buying tickets to see the hologram... I'd literally just seen the news on tiktok about the LED screen 😬I'd have been in the refund crowd but I'm really glad you made the most of it and had a good time!

Oh hey we went to the same show!! I think I managed to spot my friend and I in some of the footage though and now I wish I had complimented you on your cosplay because I do remember seeing you and getting excited when I saw a Teto Anyway, the reason I bring this up is that as someone who went to the exact show you're talking about, I found myself agreeing with a lot of what you were saying because I was actually there. While I didn't mind the screen too much, it was a little difficult to see from where I was in the floor (which looked to be ever so slightly in front of you from what I could see) especially since I was shorter than a lot of the people ahead of me. It was also a little disappointing to not have the actual hologram or for the screen to make it easier to see the performance itself, but just being around everyone was such a fun experience. I think the standout to me was when that one person pulled up a picture of the lesbian flag during Gimme x Gimme and Luka's song (I dunno if you were able to see it but I know I took pictures both times), but hearing everyone singing along to World is Mine was one of those moments that made me so glad I decided to go I do want to correct one thing: at 15:00 you mention that the official light sticks sync with the songs, but you actually had to press a button to cycle through the different colors. I remember trying to anticipate who was going to be on stage and preparing the right color only to have to go back around because it wasn't who I thought it would be (AKA I was expecting Luka and it wasn't her). Unfortunately, that makes the "no outside glow sticks" rule even stranger since it's not as though they messed with the projection or anything. Maybe it was just for the official colors, but that wouldn't explain why they said only Miku Expo light sticks and not just Miku Concert ones

I got to see miku just 2 days ago and cosplayed gumi! It was disappointing to not have a hologram but I agree that the fans and community made it so so worth it. It was magical and definitely would go again! 💚

Had an R3 concert at a smaller anime convention in canada and it was amazing, free with admission too. Hard to believe a big tour chose the led screens.

I recently saw a show where the hologram was achieved by having a meshy partially transparent screen that the images were projected on. It was really cool! Definitely better than the LED screen. This was for a Deko and Friends and Yameii show in Vancouver.

i dont know how yall managed to be THAT hyped with everything that went wrong with miku expo.. but to be honest, i genuily tought "woah this is just so cool despite the LED screen" when i saw the audience acting all hyped & energetic & crazy like I WANT MORE OF THOSE-

I went to miku expo Detroit on the 12th and honestly it was amazing in person! The Led screen doesn’t show up good on camera, but in person its immaculate

@annaairahala9462

Ай бұрын

Yeah I was in Toronto and I thought it'd be a big deal but it really wasn't! Would I prefer the hologram for the experience? Yes, but it honestly feels more like a bonus and didn't detract from the show unlike what Sarah experienced

Another incredible thing about Mike hologram concerts is the live band and how Mike interacts with them! 🧡 Such energy!

Went to the same atlanta show. I had a blast. I wasn't as disappointed as I expected, but I was in the vip section close to the front. Can't say the same for people in the stands, but I felt super bad for the short people in the vip section.

Project Sekai Live Supremacist here (but I do want to go to Magical Mirai one day...) I was always skeptical about the "physicality" of the holograms but once you see it in person... Just wow. Absolutely crushed that a lot of peeps' first experience with Miku/Vocaloid concerts fell so short of expectations.

I went to the Lady Gaga and Miku tour in Atlanta back in 2014 and was severely underwhelmed with the hologram screen. It just looked like they put a projector on a transparent screen.

I was also at the Atlanta show. It was my third miku expo and by far the most disappointing. For it being the 10th anniversary tour I was expecting more throwback songs but I think there was only 2, maybe 3 tops. Also, as you pointed out in your video, massive amounts of seats were empty on the sides. I kept looking around before the show started wondering where everyone was just for no one to end up filling the seats. It made the show feel rather empty. Very strange. On a positive note, the crowd was amazing. Compared to the other two expos I was at everyone seemed super into it (despite there being no hologram). So that was nice to see

at the phoenix show the led had a panel or pixel or something that was glitching and it was so sad how they give us an led screen and can't even get that perfect😭 still so fun tho i was in the vip section and we went CRAZYYY

splatoon live concert got the hologram look

If the person I was going with wasn't insistent on still going and it was my decision alone, I would have definitely sold my tickets upon learning about the screen. I still had fun, but I really wanted the hologram effect. I was pretty underwhelmed, especially by the effects like you said. They could have done way more to make up for it. This was the most expensive concert I've ever gone to so I'm just a little salty. That being said, the band did really well ~

@lucidragon5260

Ай бұрын

Same here! The concert was pretty good, but I had to rely on the band to get energy from the concert. Every time I looked at the vocaloids and their completely dark background it just took me out of it and made me remember that they weren't really there. Hopefully I can go to a different Miku concert that actually has the projection

I managed to catch a mini Miku performance back in Atlanta at AWA a few years and it was great. Much smaller but they had the rear projection holo setup. Went to the expo recently and while I was surprised about the LED screen, it did not take away the want to see this after 4 years of waiting. I was just happy to finally go to an official event. The band did a great job and it was still a blast to go to. I think the venue definitely changed the experience for folks. They can do better things with the tech as this video said and I hope they up their game to make it a better value for everyone.

Ahhhh! I see myself in the background! I saw you and wanted to say hi but it was POURING 😭

I went to Miku Expo 2024 in Detroit a few days ago. Yes, I was disappointed about the screen and the illusions not working. However, I had an amazing time! Some of my favorite songs were played. Heck, I cried at the end (I’m not an emotional person so if that doesn’t say something idk what does). I’ve been a VOCALOID fan for years now and I’ve dreamed about going to a show. I finally did after years upon years of dreaming. It was amazing!! I really enjoyed it, but I do wish there were holograms and the true Miku illusions. I guess I’ll let this slide because it’s my dream come true. However, next time, I’m seriously going to be very disappointed. I traveled 5 hours for this too. I really want to see the magic happen :( (Everyone was really nice at the venue so that was cool! I also saw someone dressed as Elmo referencing that one show ((I think it was San Josie but idk for sure)). Everyone put their lights to red and started cheering! The energy there was incredible!!)

I was a Venue Stage builder from the Austin concert. First and foremost all of the stage elements are 2D, all of the Buildings are straight lines and use diagonal perspectives while hung from the overhead Trusses in layers. Nothing like the R3 Cubes. 2nd the issue with the glass panel is likely weight and fragility, the longer glass is the thicker it needs to be or it will fracture on the road between shows. All of the equipment is road crew, nothing locally sourced. The Road crew Iirc was 3 or 4 semis and a penski truck. Each truck loaded Full without long slabs of glass. 3rd as stage crew manipulating the glass from truck to stage would be an anxiety nightmare. If crew broke it you bet we get docked on it. LEDs are far lighter, break down into road cases 10-20 panels per case and those cases can be stacked 2-3 high. LEDS also take only 120w/h per panel to power at max brightness and a full video wall can cost 10k. Where as a single projector on the low side is 1,700w/h the body costs upwards of 30k and the lenses are 3-5k each. Mind you 60-80% of the LED panels are off at any one time for the majority of the show, and they pay for electricity at each venue. As much as i would have loved to see the projectors. Crypton was likely waiting for LED tech to reach a resolution and density thats on par to the projector, and likely to keep it that way.

They should've done the led like how they did for magical mirai 2021, for that concert some songs had miku projected on the led screen above the hologram screen and used a huge projection screen and had full on decorations and visuals around the screen

Ikr even in one of their shows in Asia they had both pepper’s ghost affect and the tv screen miku

i was also at ATL!!!! i REALLY enjoyed myself, but to be fair i; 1) only paid $130 for floor tickets because of resale 2) was in the very front. like 3 rows of people away from the stage (got to witness the garfield vs miku plush battle up close!) the illusion up close was obviously better than if you were sitting on the sides or up higher, but still evident, and a hologram would have been miles cooler. to their credit, the screen quality was AMAZING up close. but for the majority of the venue not getting to be close enough AND the screen being so small to enjoy that is SO unfair. glad to hear you enjoyed yourself nonetheless! the live music was sooo good, and the energy from everybody can't be compared.

@ksmart1235

Ай бұрын

I was there at ATL too and enjoyed the concert too.

Omg Im so early!! ALSO THE BREAD EARRINGS?? 🫶

i went to detroit and it was so much fun!! i am disappointed that they didnt look real but i made so many friends before the concert and as you said the crowd made it a lot better. this was also my first miku concert and my dad had to drive us a pretty long distance and pay a lot to get us there but still it was a great experience. i really do wish they had projectors though, ive had to use a glass picture frame and a shoe box just so i can have my own “realistic” miku concert.

I live in the Vancouver area and when I heard about the concert, I really really wanted to go, but luckily/unluckily I got sick and we can’t even get tickets in the first place lol

I didn't really understand why everyone was upset. I get it now.

I love how it's not just blasting it for being cheap, but blasting it for being lazy artistically. It's a much more interesting perspective imo

I went to the Atlanta show, and seeing it from your perspective was trippy, lmao. I didn't even realize the LED TV screen thing, as I'm new to Miku. I was just happy to see her perform. It definitely could've been better, though.

I attended Miku Expo London back in 2020 and can say that the hologram definitely felt very real. There's no need to use an LED screen to apparently "see her better". BRING BACK THE MAGIC!!!!!!!