Penuel The Black Pen | In Conversation Adv. Ike Khumalo , Operation Dudula, Apartheid, ANC, CODESA
Advocate Ike Khumalo is a senior advocate, a passionate activist and has a lot of strong ideas on how to turn South Africa into a better nation.
Жүктеу.....
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@Sphaman1000 Жыл бұрын
"Our leaders cannot think beyond a mercedez benz" 🤞 Facts
@senzovumani4771
Жыл бұрын
Sadly
@babakawaz8225
Жыл бұрын
Power ...
@siphomabena9139
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Ceezy_King
10 ай бұрын
That line hit hard!
@i.am.navkaur
8 ай бұрын
Greed.
@mthokozisilanga4497 Жыл бұрын
We had borders since the begining of time. That is why we had people running away from inkosi uShaka to the land of kgosi Moshoeshoe and inkosi uHintsa. We all knew where the land of each tribe began and ended. Malema is drunk, yes we did not have fence, however, no one would enter any land of any African kingdom without declaring and asking for permission to either pass through or stay.
@donaldmolaba3464
Жыл бұрын
But that was not borderline
@mthokozisilanga4497
Жыл бұрын
@@donaldmolaba3464 That was borderline. You might well say, like colonizers that Africans did not marry, just because they did not wear a suit and a white wedding dress in front of the pulpit. That is a colonization mindset. Yes we married and yes we had borders. How would people like AmaMfengu became refugees in the land of AmaXhosa if there were no borders? Inkosi uCetshwayo had his land and his people and accepted iNdlovukazi uNandi and his son inkosi uShaka, whilst other subgroups were chasing them away. How can those kings and chiefs chase indlovukazi and inkosi away if there was no borderline? This is just a crazy argument based on a cognitive dissonance.
@treyngwenya258
3 ай бұрын
lol which borders?@@mthokozisilanga4497
@mosadingsedibane1373
2 ай бұрын
Top Class comment.
@SollyMeshaba18 сағат бұрын
Advocate Khumalo is one of few people who are willing and ready to stand for what he knows and believe in.
@vusumuzimchunu292 Жыл бұрын
All I like about IKE is to put South Africans first power to that ndoda yamadoda
@MatimbaHlangwana Жыл бұрын
MacG and Sol were not lying man this man's visuals are top tier yoh
@ThabsGO
Жыл бұрын
Instead of praising him,they ridicule him
@MatimbaHlangwana
Жыл бұрын
@@ThabsGOlol you know Mac and Sol with them banter is the order of the day sometimes they go beyond
@SizweDlokweni
10 ай бұрын
But we're did he get the funds to have such quality?? Think!...
@nonkolo_faith Жыл бұрын
One thing about Penuel... he brings TOP TIER guests! Always!
@blacktee2865
Жыл бұрын
Uqinisile. Always!!!
@DailyMotivation365. Жыл бұрын
Penuel met his match. Listen to how Ike is explaining the grant system with facts and statistics.
@KingOfAfrica90
Жыл бұрын
True he turned the grant topic around. I was also not expecting his answer
@tokamasita5038
Жыл бұрын
This kind of engagement is exemplary, we should learn from that particular moment more than focus on who is better, they both great and built each other more than anything else, we all need each other, Penuel's brilliant show brought us this amazing interview.
@pageiit7626
Жыл бұрын
I total agree this guy filling the gaps and correcting the misunderstanding that Pen has ob certain concept and human behaviour.
@palesatsosane7743
11 ай бұрын
Yinkunzi Khumalo
@vusmuzimasilela2358 Жыл бұрын
Pen man let me tell you something you thought you knew but you really don't know, Your podcast is bigger then 90% of what I see on KZread, please pride yourself man we learning a lot bra. Thank you syabonga Ntsizwa Yama Butho. God bless you.
@sonwabisotakayo5916 Жыл бұрын
I knew Adv. Ike Khumalo through Power FM he used to be a regular caller. Unfortunately they banned him. I really love his opinions. I really admire him
@kennedymogomotsi6973
Жыл бұрын
Remember power FM is funded by rupert.there are no longer speaking truth to power.since JJ left they are pushing a certain agenda
@nathanvladmir5554 Жыл бұрын
As a Congolese born and raised in Eswatini but living and working in South Africa, I totally support Ike on what foreigners are doing in South Africa, we need him too in DRC because our country has been taken over by Nigerians, Indians and Rwandans. I like that scarce skills part, I'm an Industrial Robotics and Artificial intelligence engineer which is a scarce skill and you should only be allowed to come to a country if you coming to start a business or are a scarce skill, PERIOD!!
@briandejesustofa3708
Жыл бұрын
Business needs labourer, I bet you forgot that. Any country in the world, any super power country needs investors and labourers be it highly educated or uneducated, they go hand in hand. Do you know how many people Canada brings in just to pick fruits?
@nathanvladmir5554
Жыл бұрын
@@briandejesustofa3708 that's because maybe there's not enough local citizens willing to do that job, but in South Africa and the DRC there's more than enough people for those jobs but illegal immigrants are hired instead because they can be overworked and underpaid.
@edbee7674
Жыл бұрын
Europeans are united and Africans are divided through the rule implemented by white men."Divided & rule ".Borders have made Africans hate their fellow Africans & see nothing like them (Self hate)
@iyiolaabosede9500
Жыл бұрын
Wtf Nigerians aren’t in Congo 😅
@nathanvladmir5554
Жыл бұрын
@@iyiolaabosede9500 yes there's a lot of your people there causing unnecessary havoc, even in Eswatini it's a stereotype that most of y'all are in illegal dealings like drugs and armed robberies.
@sphelelesikosana7520 Жыл бұрын
Every South African need to check this conversation 🔥💯
@khaleeqkaashif9348 Жыл бұрын
My Black Brothers are weak against other men when it comes to global affairs/leadership.....💯💯
@KingOfAfrica90 Жыл бұрын
Ike Khumalo spoke so well regarding the issue of illegal immigration, sanctions of Zimbabwe and Haitia, the false idea that Africa never had borders, racism and inequality in SA, Second Codesa as the possible solution going forward in SA and the sanction people can expect if they can take the land, the constitution and laws of the country
@luckymashaba7132 Жыл бұрын
Ike Is schooling Penuel and the rest of us.
@shisuiuchiha480 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful beard💯
@mstr4164 Жыл бұрын
Ike is not bad as the way the media portrays him. He is very knowledgeable on the law and raised very valid points on current affairs. Thoroughly enjoyed the interview.
@valentineisraelshabangu4069
Жыл бұрын
He seems like a laid back dude I swallow my words never understood him.
@thandonkalitshana2024
Жыл бұрын
You've got to realise something once you question the status core of capitalism they will fight you to death
@williamthage923 Жыл бұрын
I used to listen to advocate Khumalo from powerfm mostly when Professor JJ Tabane was still there very brilliant mind and never scared of speaking the truth.
@davidmakaveli4614
Ай бұрын
lol I see hatred over Africans and loves Europeans
@codingmafia1642 Жыл бұрын
This guy speaking facts , n no politician can sit with him 1 on 1
@menzimngadi6793
Жыл бұрын
I can imagine him taking Gwede apart 😂
@edmundsishange3608
Жыл бұрын
Gwede won't "stomach" him
@fortunemashiane721
Жыл бұрын
Not even a single Politician can debate this guy
@davidmakaveli4614
Ай бұрын
He's weak
@sibongisenisakhele3114 Жыл бұрын
What a rich interview! Thanks Penuel. Advocate Khumalo, please consider hosting Master Classes. We need in-depth discussions of the topics covered.
@nyikobaloyi5527 Жыл бұрын
I just knew this would be an amazing conversation! As a country and a continent, we need more people who think like Ike Khumalo.
@risenga1000 Жыл бұрын
These are topics we shouldn’t be afraid to talk about in South Africa. The Advocate is truly conscious. I enjoyed the discussion…
@mosadingsedibane13732 ай бұрын
I would vote IKE for president. A leader a brilliant strong black men. I have so much respect for him.
@VUSISPEAKS. Жыл бұрын
South Africa need to have more conversations like this.
@Fx.Gold.Squad110 ай бұрын
We are prisoners of hope❤
@kholofelolebepe9637 Жыл бұрын
Yoh, from 23:00 to 25:00 Ike echoed all my thoughts about the "average" man. Two days ago 85000 people gathered to watch a bunch of grown-ups run around kicking a ball for 90 min, last week it was 90 000. Some even traveled from different provinces,yet we can't even get 10% of these people to march to Mega watt park and demand the sacking of Andre de Ruyter. When you realize the number of people that were gathered in those stadiums equals to our entire Military and police force combined you'l realize that South Africans deserve the high unemployment rate, lack of service delivery, the privatizing of SOE and non-stop loadsheding.
@billymaepa4576
Жыл бұрын
FACTS
@Onserio.
Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@sibonisoshabangu9921
Жыл бұрын
Joh man this is deep. Comfortable zone
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
Жыл бұрын
Very true. Completely misplaced priorities.
@simplemcritick738
Жыл бұрын
Eish thats facts you just posted
@musiqcircles370710 ай бұрын
"we're engineered to oppose the system as opposed to building it " i felt those words
@KoketsoMakgoba29 күн бұрын
Ike should be a regular guest, at least once every quarter.
@lungelokeswa610211 ай бұрын
I'm so glad Ike came here to educate all of us including the host of the podcast
@johannesmweli2483 Жыл бұрын
I am glad that Ike reiterated the fact that borders never came with Europeans we have always had borders as Africans mainly in the form of landmarks like rivers, mountains, forests etc. maybe the truth is that the ones we have today were redrawn by white men but to say we never had borders is not true at all. Borders have always been there we knew where the land of the Zulus start and end, same with the Xhosas, Sothos, Swazis etc
@jacobmatjiu728510 ай бұрын
Adv.Ike Khumalo u r God send,I cant b'lieve I had a chance 2 hear u.U r amazing,intuitive compassionate,educated,everything...I wish u should long 2 benefit this country.
@julienicks86919 ай бұрын
I love this guest, one of the best guest on the show. He made the most sense to everything he said. So much respect for him. Thank you
@manqobamazibuko167 Жыл бұрын
You are a star my broer, m de 1 who asked 4 his interview!!
@mo.b101 Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭❤️ the courts really kept this man quiet via socials...Thanks Pen
@fezilemda8127 Жыл бұрын
Ike is maturing well, he used to be wild but now I see a calm Ike who puts out his views without showing any anger. Age is catching up with Ike😅 but I am glad to have learnt so much from him. This is one of the guys that needs to be protected
@siphamandlakhumalo5074 Жыл бұрын
The Bravery with this two true leaders who speaks truth "powerfull"
@harveyfuqua6633 Жыл бұрын
Who needs politicians when we have Ike Khumalo.
@martinmogakala3286 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU IKE FOR SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IMMIGRATION, SA MUST BE PROTECTED.
@nonkululekomdlalose4555 Жыл бұрын
I concur with Penuel's observation that South Africans tend to travel primarily for leisure purposes. Personally, I have been fortunate enough to possess a bold and adventurous spirit, and have traveled extensively throughout Africa, interacting with people from all over the continent. During our conversations, I noticed that individuals travel for two main reasons: firstly, due to poverty and lack of opportunities in their home countries, and secondly, to gain skills and knowledge from around the world. However, the issue arises when many of these individuals do not wish to return to their countries of origin, including Nigerians. Instead, a significant number of them choose to settle in Europe, Canada, or the US. As a Master's degree student at Pan African University, I have had the opportunity to interact with African students from various countries, and it is interesting to note that many of them aspire to relocate to France (for those from French-speaking nations) or Canada.
@dikoketsomasonganye9650 Жыл бұрын
Why don't we have ppl like adv Ike and Penuel in the govt?
@khwezindlovu2101 Жыл бұрын
The Penuel Show with Adv. Ike Khumalo Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:10 - Welcoming in Adv. Khumalo 03:30 - Effects of being arrested during 21' July looting 09:15 - Reasons behind arrest 12:05 - Why do you question things 14:20 - Thoughts on influential men 16:50 - Thoughts on black men 19:50 - Leadership 26:30 - African leaders 28:20 - Operation Dudula 35:35 - Focus on Africans 38:30 - Who has committed the most atrocities 40:00 - Solutions to South African problems 44:00 - CODESA 49:05 - ANC / Politics - Revolutions 58:00 - Inspiration 1:05:35 - Comfort & relationship to social grants 1:11:00 - How social grants can be used for beneficial reasons 1:13:30 - Social chaos 1:18:20 - Thoughts on current legal system 1:30:24 - ENDS
@godpenuel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Khwezi 🙏🏽
@CryptoPowerTalk
Жыл бұрын
Legend 🙏
@LalasPhiwe
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Penuel.Bra Ike , siyabonga bafo.You one of the folks amongst inspirational leaders people to do university LECTURES to influence our youth. Standing ovation ,
@jaysomeone
11 ай бұрын
Loooove Ike Khumalo, these two guys are two of my favorite people.
@adzino25
9 ай бұрын
doing the lords work🙏🏾
@divinetinashe6640 Жыл бұрын
The sound quality and visual on this podcast is dope clean and superb
@simphiweqwabe4985 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what is a senior advocate. Anyhow, Adv khumalo is an articulate and well read individual. Real Black Excellence.
@ephraimthomas2391 Жыл бұрын
I like how he explains grant as a parent we don't throw our children out a politician should think like a parent
@jaysomeone11 ай бұрын
1:03:52 South Africans need to travel does not matter where. Travel broadens minds, outlooks, everything.
@mmalegodijafta8332 Жыл бұрын
I like Ike Khumalo and I've learn so many things from him🤜🤛
@adroitmczephyr10 ай бұрын
IKE KHUMALO MADE ME SUBSCRIBE ... AS MUCH AS HE IS A PATRIOT IN HIS COUNTRY ... ZIMs MUST BE PATRIOTIC IN THEIRS ASWELL
@thandonkalitshana2024 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad penuel you invited someone with a different view from yours and you are a great listener it shows your maturity. Big ups👌👌
@melissascheepers5912 Жыл бұрын
So much knowledge and wisdom shared in this interview ✨
@i.cherryblossom.i7799 Жыл бұрын
When i tell people i want 6 children , they think i m crazy , Children are a blessing you can have as much as you want as long as u can provide a good life and support them
@nomkhosixulugama1089 Жыл бұрын
I share exactly the same sentiments on xenophobia. I really enjoyed the way Ike speaks in very lay terms, while uttering deep stuff (legal, international, political, historical economic relations). He is a true leader, relying on accessible language, relevant and relatable context for the audience. Siyabonga.
@nhlaposbu
Жыл бұрын
Wena wenzani in your corner about this
@user-mf6hy8ul3g10 ай бұрын
Guy's. I love your language. Enough is enough
@xokihlongwane543 Жыл бұрын
we need part 2 With Advocate Ike Khumalo
@africansunkissedwithtsholo6374 Жыл бұрын
Love Ike he's not afraid to lose for what he believes.
@waylus2897 Жыл бұрын
🤔 i wonder why we dont have such kind of podcasts in Botswana that bring up thought-provoking conversations with inspirational persons such as these, 🤔 i know its not because we lack such thinkers
@tumelonyatsoemang798
Жыл бұрын
Start one since you are able to identify a gap 👀
@waylus2897
Жыл бұрын
I would... time permitting
@truesouth6532
Жыл бұрын
@@waylus2897 start one, we'd love to hear more from Botswana. You definitely have the capability.
@juliendavis7467 Жыл бұрын
My Dad always spoke about Ike💯
@bigscott175 Жыл бұрын
He touched something when we he said we engineered to fight the system the once they got freedom they didn't know what to do with afterwards. My father spoke something similar he said before apartheid ended Matric was a very high accolade and once after receiving you could start a family and work but that all changed with the end of apartheid. If you look in history, the people that actually fight the war, they are not well taken care of afterwards. Tom cruise made a movie about war vets and their trauma after wars but in true fact , some leaders are great at fighting while others are great in administration, it really depends what you looking for as a people, someone who can toyi toyi or someone who can give good service delivery and expand our economy.
@Mafuzafulele Жыл бұрын
Bra Ike i love your sincerity and honesty.
@tshepomotshepana7635 Жыл бұрын
There is no equality when there is capital involved. We need equity to level the playing field
@natalshare494110 ай бұрын
"this world is very cold, you have got to claim your space'" those words picked me up
@annelitawhitlow725728 күн бұрын
I absolutely like these refreshing and objective ideas of this advocate.
@ElectrostatiCrow11 ай бұрын
"You have to a bit abnorrmal to achieve certain things." Yes sir.
@nonkululekomdlalose4555 Жыл бұрын
The majority of Black South Africans may not possess a natural business acumen due to the legacy of apartheid. Conversely, in Kenya, it is quite common for individuals to own land and businesses, with a minimal desire to work for someone else. This attitude towards entrepreneurship is instilled in Kenyan children from a young age, emphasizing the importance of financial responsibility (though not everyone follows this mindset). I believe that one's upbringing plays a significant role in shaping their business-oriented mindset.
@moeketsitsie1017 Жыл бұрын
One day I would like to meet Ike. At one time he was angry, but know he looks happy. I miss your youtubes.😎😎
@thembazwane309010 ай бұрын
Ike is very intelligent. And I would like to take this moment and give him his flowers. Adv. Khumalo I yes u my brother .
@kwandiweyekela334617 күн бұрын
Ike has really matured in his thinking and articulation... He's not as emotionally charged as he used to be, and has adopted a much more logical and empathetic approach to his patriotism...
@sthembisomashwama1750 Жыл бұрын
Adv Ike Khumalo used to call on Talk radio 702 back in 2012/13 I was in varsity doing my 2nd year, I know him from there and he disappeared. I used to ask myself what happened to him even this year. I'm happy to finally see him
@luvuyodada830
Жыл бұрын
He resurfaced around 2018, 2019 and 2020...this time around calling Power FM. He's very clear this brother. Big ups 👊🏽
@sakhilengwenya594 Жыл бұрын
Penual is bringing great guests. I will love this.
@Litspompoz2 ай бұрын
I enjoy listening to Mashobane..He always makes sense every time he speaks
@paballoratshoeu708 Жыл бұрын
Ike sounds like a reasonable man. Very astute with our history as a continent.👌👌
@King-ss7cv Жыл бұрын
He got banned from Power fm and 702 for being authentic. I hope KZread is not gonna do the same to free speech podcasts. Black Pen💗🤝👍
@vusisibisi-su3iwАй бұрын
Ola bra Ike. Your introduction of yourself is powerful, especially your defination of EDUCATION. I believe you, it ought to be regarded as a tool to unlock our minds to avoid the stupid myth of ' master/ servant inter - relations. Unlocking our mind and enabling us to create our own jobs ( self empowerment ), rather that relying on the next person for survival. As a nation, a lot can thus be achieved when a majority of us think likewise. Positive minds think alike. Power to you big brother.😮😊
@arthur_bIggie Жыл бұрын
Just wanna send a big shout out to you Penuel🔥, please keep the episodes coming. We're learning 👑🔥
@mbuyiselo1 Жыл бұрын
Smart man this one.. wise man.
@thembimaseko4756 Жыл бұрын
What a humble guy, support you big time.Dudula for the people,E F F and A N C for the rich people.
@eliasthibs3890 Жыл бұрын
Enlightening and progressive views. Thank you Penuel and bro Ike. Why are such people not utilized by this government?
@morakaevans6905 Жыл бұрын
This interview is one of the best. I need to listen to this conversation again this Adv ike is clear about everything about what is saying. Thank you GodPenuel for bringing Adv Ike Khumalo 🙏🏾
@khayadongo8252 Жыл бұрын
All along I have been thinking that this fellow was just utsotsi/sidlamlilo from Jozi, however this interview has changed my perception about Ike Mntungwa 180 degrees, big ups to your work Penelimnyama💪🏾
@lefar4498 Жыл бұрын
Ike, thank you for the legal education you provided throughout the duration of the interview, and the expression of humanity that came through, people like yourself should be helping to articulate and carve the political and economic path of society, be at the forefront our economic and societal development.
@thabomadiba602510 ай бұрын
Bra Ike it ain't easy out here...Some of us don't get opportunities but we are gifted
@jeisonkunene6376 Жыл бұрын
Penuel you have grown as an interviwer. Well done!!!
@bhacanation7052 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to check this out. I used to listen to bra Ike when he used to wrestle with Thabiso Kotane on Power Fm
@thulanigwala1404 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Penuel for bringing this side of Brah Ike, as a person. He must come back there is a well of information and knowledge there. Big up!!!
@victorhdaglon10 ай бұрын
Very educational conversation and makes you see where we come from and how to moves on, thank Mr Khumala, wishing you well in life.
@andresmith7608 Жыл бұрын
Great interview , your choice of guest Mr. Khumalo was awesome choice.
@ndodazondo6187 Жыл бұрын
I am proud of this interview, it was done right.
@samphakane3361 Жыл бұрын
This is the most important South African interview I have ever since I started being a big follower of podcasts....I'm still shocked about Ike Khumalo's recollection of Codesa.....A Codesa 2.0 is urgently needed the future of our country depends on it 😲😲
@mkhulekodlamini431311 ай бұрын
we so love this! when people have different views and they get to back why they adopt such conventions
@jaysomeone11 ай бұрын
I would vote for Ike as president.
@kemmoneR10 ай бұрын
this has to go viral. Awesome interview
@zodwagumede5700 Жыл бұрын
We are to jealous towards each other to work together
@musamthemby4832 Жыл бұрын
These are types of leaders we need
@supriseholyfield8 ай бұрын
Much love bro salute ❤❤❤
@qinisondebele4867 ай бұрын
Adv Khumalo is a man of truths
@chrisjpndala7576 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for today's episode Bra Ike is my favourite..I got to know him on Power FM
@sibonelohashtag Жыл бұрын
Such a great knowledge from Ike Khumalo wow brilliant 👏🏾👏🏾
@reggiemabena3630 Жыл бұрын
All thanks to the Black Pen for inviting this relatable intellect.
@daniel_maholela Жыл бұрын
Didn't really cav grootman, but I don't regret watching and listening. He is worth it. Kea leboha haholo Marena
@siphiwomanana8666 Жыл бұрын
Nigeria is so under-developed,the educated one are in England,Belgium,USA etc,they are not bringing the skills back to Nigeria
@ayorinde5782
Жыл бұрын
They will not allow you to properly integrate your foreign skills in Nigeria. There is a lot of gatekeepers and wicked governments. .
@siphiwomanana8666
Жыл бұрын
@@ayorinde5782 And I'm sure it happens in most African countries,hence I'm saying we just need to take care of our families,make sure our kids are good hoping that their generation will make things better since the old frogs will be dead
@ayorinde5782
Жыл бұрын
@@siphiwomanana8666 i totally agree with you
@thandimbumbe3717 Жыл бұрын
I like this guy's claimness, he has fresh point of view. He fights differently No aggression
@Luvskin_HolisticLab Жыл бұрын
@Penuel your opinions sometimes seem all over the place, which I've decided to understand cause my mind confuses me too now & again🙈... But the quality if guests & conversation you've been exposing us here is so brilliant🙌✊️... and ADV. Khumalo is a man I would vote for, next election🙌... The whole world needs African resources and I'm sure we are able to keep African resources beneficial to Africa first! We've learned enough to do this on without being enslaved in their so called 🌈 nation🙄
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"Our leaders cannot think beyond a mercedez benz" 🤞 Facts
@senzovumani4771
Жыл бұрын
Sadly
@babakawaz8225
Жыл бұрын
Power ...
@siphomabena9139
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Ceezy_King
10 ай бұрын
That line hit hard!
@i.am.navkaur
8 ай бұрын
Greed.
We had borders since the begining of time. That is why we had people running away from inkosi uShaka to the land of kgosi Moshoeshoe and inkosi uHintsa. We all knew where the land of each tribe began and ended. Malema is drunk, yes we did not have fence, however, no one would enter any land of any African kingdom without declaring and asking for permission to either pass through or stay.
@donaldmolaba3464
Жыл бұрын
But that was not borderline
@mthokozisilanga4497
Жыл бұрын
@@donaldmolaba3464 That was borderline. You might well say, like colonizers that Africans did not marry, just because they did not wear a suit and a white wedding dress in front of the pulpit. That is a colonization mindset. Yes we married and yes we had borders. How would people like AmaMfengu became refugees in the land of AmaXhosa if there were no borders? Inkosi uCetshwayo had his land and his people and accepted iNdlovukazi uNandi and his son inkosi uShaka, whilst other subgroups were chasing them away. How can those kings and chiefs chase indlovukazi and inkosi away if there was no borderline? This is just a crazy argument based on a cognitive dissonance.
@treyngwenya258
3 ай бұрын
lol which borders?@@mthokozisilanga4497
@mosadingsedibane1373
2 ай бұрын
Top Class comment.
Advocate Khumalo is one of few people who are willing and ready to stand for what he knows and believe in.
All I like about IKE is to put South Africans first power to that ndoda yamadoda
MacG and Sol were not lying man this man's visuals are top tier yoh
@ThabsGO
Жыл бұрын
Instead of praising him,they ridicule him
@MatimbaHlangwana
Жыл бұрын
@@ThabsGOlol you know Mac and Sol with them banter is the order of the day sometimes they go beyond
@SizweDlokweni
10 ай бұрын
But we're did he get the funds to have such quality?? Think!...
One thing about Penuel... he brings TOP TIER guests! Always!
@blacktee2865
Жыл бұрын
Uqinisile. Always!!!
Penuel met his match. Listen to how Ike is explaining the grant system with facts and statistics.
@KingOfAfrica90
Жыл бұрын
True he turned the grant topic around. I was also not expecting his answer
@tokamasita5038
Жыл бұрын
This kind of engagement is exemplary, we should learn from that particular moment more than focus on who is better, they both great and built each other more than anything else, we all need each other, Penuel's brilliant show brought us this amazing interview.
@pageiit7626
Жыл бұрын
I total agree this guy filling the gaps and correcting the misunderstanding that Pen has ob certain concept and human behaviour.
@palesatsosane7743
11 ай бұрын
Yinkunzi Khumalo
Pen man let me tell you something you thought you knew but you really don't know, Your podcast is bigger then 90% of what I see on KZread, please pride yourself man we learning a lot bra. Thank you syabonga Ntsizwa Yama Butho. God bless you.
I knew Adv. Ike Khumalo through Power FM he used to be a regular caller. Unfortunately they banned him. I really love his opinions. I really admire him
@kennedymogomotsi6973
Жыл бұрын
Remember power FM is funded by rupert.there are no longer speaking truth to power.since JJ left they are pushing a certain agenda
As a Congolese born and raised in Eswatini but living and working in South Africa, I totally support Ike on what foreigners are doing in South Africa, we need him too in DRC because our country has been taken over by Nigerians, Indians and Rwandans. I like that scarce skills part, I'm an Industrial Robotics and Artificial intelligence engineer which is a scarce skill and you should only be allowed to come to a country if you coming to start a business or are a scarce skill, PERIOD!!
@briandejesustofa3708
Жыл бұрын
Business needs labourer, I bet you forgot that. Any country in the world, any super power country needs investors and labourers be it highly educated or uneducated, they go hand in hand. Do you know how many people Canada brings in just to pick fruits?
@nathanvladmir5554
Жыл бұрын
@@briandejesustofa3708 that's because maybe there's not enough local citizens willing to do that job, but in South Africa and the DRC there's more than enough people for those jobs but illegal immigrants are hired instead because they can be overworked and underpaid.
@edbee7674
Жыл бұрын
Europeans are united and Africans are divided through the rule implemented by white men."Divided & rule ".Borders have made Africans hate their fellow Africans & see nothing like them (Self hate)
@iyiolaabosede9500
Жыл бұрын
Wtf Nigerians aren’t in Congo 😅
@nathanvladmir5554
Жыл бұрын
@@iyiolaabosede9500 yes there's a lot of your people there causing unnecessary havoc, even in Eswatini it's a stereotype that most of y'all are in illegal dealings like drugs and armed robberies.
Every South African need to check this conversation 🔥💯
My Black Brothers are weak against other men when it comes to global affairs/leadership.....💯💯
Ike Khumalo spoke so well regarding the issue of illegal immigration, sanctions of Zimbabwe and Haitia, the false idea that Africa never had borders, racism and inequality in SA, Second Codesa as the possible solution going forward in SA and the sanction people can expect if they can take the land, the constitution and laws of the country
Ike Is schooling Penuel and the rest of us.
What a beautiful beard💯
Ike is not bad as the way the media portrays him. He is very knowledgeable on the law and raised very valid points on current affairs. Thoroughly enjoyed the interview.
@valentineisraelshabangu4069
Жыл бұрын
He seems like a laid back dude I swallow my words never understood him.
@thandonkalitshana2024
Жыл бұрын
You've got to realise something once you question the status core of capitalism they will fight you to death
I used to listen to advocate Khumalo from powerfm mostly when Professor JJ Tabane was still there very brilliant mind and never scared of speaking the truth.
@davidmakaveli4614
Ай бұрын
lol I see hatred over Africans and loves Europeans
This guy speaking facts , n no politician can sit with him 1 on 1
@menzimngadi6793
Жыл бұрын
I can imagine him taking Gwede apart 😂
@edmundsishange3608
Жыл бұрын
Gwede won't "stomach" him
@fortunemashiane721
Жыл бұрын
Not even a single Politician can debate this guy
@davidmakaveli4614
Ай бұрын
He's weak
What a rich interview! Thanks Penuel. Advocate Khumalo, please consider hosting Master Classes. We need in-depth discussions of the topics covered.
I just knew this would be an amazing conversation! As a country and a continent, we need more people who think like Ike Khumalo.
These are topics we shouldn’t be afraid to talk about in South Africa. The Advocate is truly conscious. I enjoyed the discussion…
I would vote IKE for president. A leader a brilliant strong black men. I have so much respect for him.
South Africa need to have more conversations like this.
We are prisoners of hope❤
Yoh, from 23:00 to 25:00 Ike echoed all my thoughts about the "average" man. Two days ago 85000 people gathered to watch a bunch of grown-ups run around kicking a ball for 90 min, last week it was 90 000. Some even traveled from different provinces,yet we can't even get 10% of these people to march to Mega watt park and demand the sacking of Andre de Ruyter. When you realize the number of people that were gathered in those stadiums equals to our entire Military and police force combined you'l realize that South Africans deserve the high unemployment rate, lack of service delivery, the privatizing of SOE and non-stop loadsheding.
@billymaepa4576
Жыл бұрын
FACTS
@Onserio.
Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@sibonisoshabangu9921
Жыл бұрын
Joh man this is deep. Comfortable zone
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
Жыл бұрын
Very true. Completely misplaced priorities.
@simplemcritick738
Жыл бұрын
Eish thats facts you just posted
"we're engineered to oppose the system as opposed to building it " i felt those words
Ike should be a regular guest, at least once every quarter.
I'm so glad Ike came here to educate all of us including the host of the podcast
I am glad that Ike reiterated the fact that borders never came with Europeans we have always had borders as Africans mainly in the form of landmarks like rivers, mountains, forests etc. maybe the truth is that the ones we have today were redrawn by white men but to say we never had borders is not true at all. Borders have always been there we knew where the land of the Zulus start and end, same with the Xhosas, Sothos, Swazis etc
Adv.Ike Khumalo u r God send,I cant b'lieve I had a chance 2 hear u.U r amazing,intuitive compassionate,educated,everything...I wish u should long 2 benefit this country.
I love this guest, one of the best guest on the show. He made the most sense to everything he said. So much respect for him. Thank you
You are a star my broer, m de 1 who asked 4 his interview!!
😭😭😭❤️ the courts really kept this man quiet via socials...Thanks Pen
Ike is maturing well, he used to be wild but now I see a calm Ike who puts out his views without showing any anger. Age is catching up with Ike😅 but I am glad to have learnt so much from him. This is one of the guys that needs to be protected
The Bravery with this two true leaders who speaks truth "powerfull"
Who needs politicians when we have Ike Khumalo.
THANK YOU IKE FOR SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IMMIGRATION, SA MUST BE PROTECTED.
I concur with Penuel's observation that South Africans tend to travel primarily for leisure purposes. Personally, I have been fortunate enough to possess a bold and adventurous spirit, and have traveled extensively throughout Africa, interacting with people from all over the continent. During our conversations, I noticed that individuals travel for two main reasons: firstly, due to poverty and lack of opportunities in their home countries, and secondly, to gain skills and knowledge from around the world. However, the issue arises when many of these individuals do not wish to return to their countries of origin, including Nigerians. Instead, a significant number of them choose to settle in Europe, Canada, or the US. As a Master's degree student at Pan African University, I have had the opportunity to interact with African students from various countries, and it is interesting to note that many of them aspire to relocate to France (for those from French-speaking nations) or Canada.
Why don't we have ppl like adv Ike and Penuel in the govt?
The Penuel Show with Adv. Ike Khumalo Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:10 - Welcoming in Adv. Khumalo 03:30 - Effects of being arrested during 21' July looting 09:15 - Reasons behind arrest 12:05 - Why do you question things 14:20 - Thoughts on influential men 16:50 - Thoughts on black men 19:50 - Leadership 26:30 - African leaders 28:20 - Operation Dudula 35:35 - Focus on Africans 38:30 - Who has committed the most atrocities 40:00 - Solutions to South African problems 44:00 - CODESA 49:05 - ANC / Politics - Revolutions 58:00 - Inspiration 1:05:35 - Comfort & relationship to social grants 1:11:00 - How social grants can be used for beneficial reasons 1:13:30 - Social chaos 1:18:20 - Thoughts on current legal system 1:30:24 - ENDS
@godpenuel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Khwezi 🙏🏽
@CryptoPowerTalk
Жыл бұрын
Legend 🙏
@LalasPhiwe
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Penuel.Bra Ike , siyabonga bafo.You one of the folks amongst inspirational leaders people to do university LECTURES to influence our youth. Standing ovation ,
@jaysomeone
11 ай бұрын
Loooove Ike Khumalo, these two guys are two of my favorite people.
@adzino25
9 ай бұрын
doing the lords work🙏🏾
The sound quality and visual on this podcast is dope clean and superb
I wonder what is a senior advocate. Anyhow, Adv khumalo is an articulate and well read individual. Real Black Excellence.
I like how he explains grant as a parent we don't throw our children out a politician should think like a parent
1:03:52 South Africans need to travel does not matter where. Travel broadens minds, outlooks, everything.
I like Ike Khumalo and I've learn so many things from him🤜🤛
IKE KHUMALO MADE ME SUBSCRIBE ... AS MUCH AS HE IS A PATRIOT IN HIS COUNTRY ... ZIMs MUST BE PATRIOTIC IN THEIRS ASWELL
I'm glad penuel you invited someone with a different view from yours and you are a great listener it shows your maturity. Big ups👌👌
So much knowledge and wisdom shared in this interview ✨
When i tell people i want 6 children , they think i m crazy , Children are a blessing you can have as much as you want as long as u can provide a good life and support them
I share exactly the same sentiments on xenophobia. I really enjoyed the way Ike speaks in very lay terms, while uttering deep stuff (legal, international, political, historical economic relations). He is a true leader, relying on accessible language, relevant and relatable context for the audience. Siyabonga.
@nhlaposbu
Жыл бұрын
Wena wenzani in your corner about this
Guy's. I love your language. Enough is enough
we need part 2 With Advocate Ike Khumalo
Love Ike he's not afraid to lose for what he believes.
🤔 i wonder why we dont have such kind of podcasts in Botswana that bring up thought-provoking conversations with inspirational persons such as these, 🤔 i know its not because we lack such thinkers
@tumelonyatsoemang798
Жыл бұрын
Start one since you are able to identify a gap 👀
@waylus2897
Жыл бұрын
I would... time permitting
@truesouth6532
Жыл бұрын
@@waylus2897 start one, we'd love to hear more from Botswana. You definitely have the capability.
My Dad always spoke about Ike💯
He touched something when we he said we engineered to fight the system the once they got freedom they didn't know what to do with afterwards. My father spoke something similar he said before apartheid ended Matric was a very high accolade and once after receiving you could start a family and work but that all changed with the end of apartheid. If you look in history, the people that actually fight the war, they are not well taken care of afterwards. Tom cruise made a movie about war vets and their trauma after wars but in true fact , some leaders are great at fighting while others are great in administration, it really depends what you looking for as a people, someone who can toyi toyi or someone who can give good service delivery and expand our economy.
Bra Ike i love your sincerity and honesty.
There is no equality when there is capital involved. We need equity to level the playing field
"this world is very cold, you have got to claim your space'" those words picked me up
I absolutely like these refreshing and objective ideas of this advocate.
"You have to a bit abnorrmal to achieve certain things." Yes sir.
The majority of Black South Africans may not possess a natural business acumen due to the legacy of apartheid. Conversely, in Kenya, it is quite common for individuals to own land and businesses, with a minimal desire to work for someone else. This attitude towards entrepreneurship is instilled in Kenyan children from a young age, emphasizing the importance of financial responsibility (though not everyone follows this mindset). I believe that one's upbringing plays a significant role in shaping their business-oriented mindset.
One day I would like to meet Ike. At one time he was angry, but know he looks happy. I miss your youtubes.😎😎
Ike is very intelligent. And I would like to take this moment and give him his flowers. Adv. Khumalo I yes u my brother .
Ike has really matured in his thinking and articulation... He's not as emotionally charged as he used to be, and has adopted a much more logical and empathetic approach to his patriotism...
Adv Ike Khumalo used to call on Talk radio 702 back in 2012/13 I was in varsity doing my 2nd year, I know him from there and he disappeared. I used to ask myself what happened to him even this year. I'm happy to finally see him
@luvuyodada830
Жыл бұрын
He resurfaced around 2018, 2019 and 2020...this time around calling Power FM. He's very clear this brother. Big ups 👊🏽
Penual is bringing great guests. I will love this.
I enjoy listening to Mashobane..He always makes sense every time he speaks
Ike sounds like a reasonable man. Very astute with our history as a continent.👌👌
He got banned from Power fm and 702 for being authentic. I hope KZread is not gonna do the same to free speech podcasts. Black Pen💗🤝👍
Ola bra Ike. Your introduction of yourself is powerful, especially your defination of EDUCATION. I believe you, it ought to be regarded as a tool to unlock our minds to avoid the stupid myth of ' master/ servant inter - relations. Unlocking our mind and enabling us to create our own jobs ( self empowerment ), rather that relying on the next person for survival. As a nation, a lot can thus be achieved when a majority of us think likewise. Positive minds think alike. Power to you big brother.😮😊
Just wanna send a big shout out to you Penuel🔥, please keep the episodes coming. We're learning 👑🔥
Smart man this one.. wise man.
What a humble guy, support you big time.Dudula for the people,E F F and A N C for the rich people.
Enlightening and progressive views. Thank you Penuel and bro Ike. Why are such people not utilized by this government?
This interview is one of the best. I need to listen to this conversation again this Adv ike is clear about everything about what is saying. Thank you GodPenuel for bringing Adv Ike Khumalo 🙏🏾
All along I have been thinking that this fellow was just utsotsi/sidlamlilo from Jozi, however this interview has changed my perception about Ike Mntungwa 180 degrees, big ups to your work Penelimnyama💪🏾
Ike, thank you for the legal education you provided throughout the duration of the interview, and the expression of humanity that came through, people like yourself should be helping to articulate and carve the political and economic path of society, be at the forefront our economic and societal development.
Bra Ike it ain't easy out here...Some of us don't get opportunities but we are gifted
Penuel you have grown as an interviwer. Well done!!!
I can't wait to check this out. I used to listen to bra Ike when he used to wrestle with Thabiso Kotane on Power Fm
Thanks, Penuel for bringing this side of Brah Ike, as a person. He must come back there is a well of information and knowledge there. Big up!!!
Very educational conversation and makes you see where we come from and how to moves on, thank Mr Khumala, wishing you well in life.
Great interview , your choice of guest Mr. Khumalo was awesome choice.
I am proud of this interview, it was done right.
This is the most important South African interview I have ever since I started being a big follower of podcasts....I'm still shocked about Ike Khumalo's recollection of Codesa.....A Codesa 2.0 is urgently needed the future of our country depends on it 😲😲
we so love this! when people have different views and they get to back why they adopt such conventions
I would vote for Ike as president.
this has to go viral. Awesome interview
We are to jealous towards each other to work together
These are types of leaders we need
Much love bro salute ❤❤❤
Adv Khumalo is a man of truths
Thanks for today's episode Bra Ike is my favourite..I got to know him on Power FM
Such a great knowledge from Ike Khumalo wow brilliant 👏🏾👏🏾
All thanks to the Black Pen for inviting this relatable intellect.
Didn't really cav grootman, but I don't regret watching and listening. He is worth it. Kea leboha haholo Marena
Nigeria is so under-developed,the educated one are in England,Belgium,USA etc,they are not bringing the skills back to Nigeria
@ayorinde5782
Жыл бұрын
They will not allow you to properly integrate your foreign skills in Nigeria. There is a lot of gatekeepers and wicked governments. .
@siphiwomanana8666
Жыл бұрын
@@ayorinde5782 And I'm sure it happens in most African countries,hence I'm saying we just need to take care of our families,make sure our kids are good hoping that their generation will make things better since the old frogs will be dead
@ayorinde5782
Жыл бұрын
@@siphiwomanana8666 i totally agree with you
I like this guy's claimness, he has fresh point of view. He fights differently No aggression
@Penuel your opinions sometimes seem all over the place, which I've decided to understand cause my mind confuses me too now & again🙈... But the quality if guests & conversation you've been exposing us here is so brilliant🙌✊️... and ADV. Khumalo is a man I would vote for, next election🙌... The whole world needs African resources and I'm sure we are able to keep African resources beneficial to Africa first! We've learned enough to do this on without being enslaved in their so called 🌈 nation🙄