The Bronx needs better crosstown trains. This is a good transit investment but the region should embrace polycentric development in the post COVID, WFH era.

@r.d.9399

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Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx all need to be connected with cross borough trains. The Bronx definitely needs direct train access to LaGuardia and John F. Kennedy Airports.

@eriklakeland3857

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@@r.d.9399 there should be a subway tunnel under Long Island Sound connecting Bronx and Queens. The lack of alternatives for those trips (especially on transit) would induce a ton of demand. A line connecting the new Metro North station and #6 Train in Parkchester to College Point and the #7 in Flushing would be amazing. Then it could extend to Jamaica and JFK in Queens and go cross-Bronx on Fordham Ave.

Penn Station Access was very anticipated. Glad to see it finally greenlit and can't wait to see the finishing product in 2027. Especially that the MTA is starting to get projects on time now. (Excluding ESA and SAS)

@collectivelyimprovingtrans2460

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ESA has been slated to open in December 2022 for awhile now, so it's on time

@aqua2poweros699

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@@collectivelyimprovingtrans2460 but the original date was 2007, then changed to 2016, then 2019, until it was 2022. So, it was pretty delayed. also, we can all agree the SAS was delayed

@collectivelyimprovingtrans2460

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@@aqua2poweros699 SAS is a different project

@collectivelyimprovingtrans2460

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@@aqua2poweros699 How can it have been 2007 when the project was announced in 2008?

@leecornwell5632

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Extended the 6 Pelham line to co op city because Pelham Bay park is definitely getting over Crowding just like main street Flushing . All they have to do is to build a over pass the highway just like they did on the Thrid Avenue Elevated line cross Bronx . Leave the B D QT trains alone And focus on extended the 6 Pelham line to co op city mall connecting to the Metro North railroad Connecticut.

Hell Gate Line....? 😂 What the hell

@GENIUSA1A

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The Bronx is hell

@aqua2poweros699

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it's the name of the branch as it passes through the Hells Gate Bridge (look to the bridge north of the Triboro Bridge)

@falcoperegrinus82

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The Channel between Randalls Is. and Queens has been called Hell Gate since the Dutch first explored it in like the 1600's.

@VinceHere98

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It’s called that because of the name of the bridge that it travels on, called the Hell Gate Bridge. I don’t know how it got the name, but that’s just the name of the bridge.

@mirzaahmed6589

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It was named because of the turbulent waters in that part of the East River.

Great

no orchard beach ????

Should’ve been called Parkchester-East 177th Street

What about connecting the Harlem line to Penn???

tell me again, how long it took the 2nd Avenue subway line… if the upper East side waited about 40yrs, to get a subway line, imagine now The Bronx 😅😅😅😅

@mitchcarter442

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Nobody cares about the Bronx hence why there's always crime and homicides there as that's where politicians house everyone on welfare. It's push them to the Bronx or out of state where they become first come first serve and bypass anyone else on the waiting list when they move out of state with a voucher. You can ALWAYS TRANSFER YOUR PUBLIC HOUSING IF YOU DONT LIKE THE BRONX OR WHERE YOU LIVE BECAUSE OF THE CRIME FROM OUR OWN RACE OF PEOPLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY

Has the church objected to the line going through Hellgate?

@trustnoone3007

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😂 I see what you did

@aqua2poweros699

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y e s

they should tunnel from grand central to penn station

@TheLIRRFrenchie...

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For what

@punchkicker3837

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@@TheLIRRFrenchie... To connect both stations idiot.

@jamallhayden2512

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@@TheLIRRFrenchie... Through running!

@TheLIRRFrenchie...

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@@jamallhayden2512 that will only happen when all 3 commuter rail roads are compatible with each other. No sense in making a tunnel for the lirr or metro north from GC to Penn.

@jamallhayden2512

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@@TheLIRRFrenchie... The Metro North’s M8 railcars are capable of using under/over running 3rd rail and overhead catenary. The only problem is the M8’s aren’t able to run under catenary in NJ. The MTA could possibly modify the the current if not future orders of the M8 to handle overhead catenary in NJ. They could also order modified versions of the Elizabeth line’s Class 315 railcars capable of using all power systems (over/under 3rd rail and overhead Catenary).

I’m looking at this yellow line curving wide into Queens but only adds stops in the Bronx. Even as a Bronx resident I have to say, that’s fucked up😆

@MessyPointedBlob

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It's an existing rail line, it's the only way this project will get completed in the next decade unfortunately. If they had to start digging new holes in Queens, buying up property, etc, it will take years of lawsuits alone :/

@aqua2poweros699

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I think a potential Sunnyside station could be added in Queens that's for sure. the mta said it in the 20-year needs assessment.

@chrisjct

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They can't add anything in queens that line is all above grand and no stations are in that area because of the hight above ground that hells gate line is, this was first talked about when I was in IS 98 junior high school in the Bronx back in the mid 90s and the main reason they didn't go alone with it is people from Connecticut didn't want anyone from the Bronx getting on the trains they felt it was more than enough buses and trains people in the Bronx could take to get into Manhattan. Funny thing metro north the NH line only stops at Fordham Rd in the Bronx for the same reason they didn't want to do this on that line so sad

@BolitaDeKetica

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@@MessyPointedBlob Which decade, again?!

@mirzaahmed6589

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The Queens side is already served by the N and W trains. The Hell Gate Line literally passes over the Astoria Line.

lol mta cant even get lirr to GCT opened this will be done in 2050 realisticly

@casbrowne9055

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Sorry about your statement it's open anyway

So metro north and amtrak will be on the same tracks?

@johnmor3541

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The area is 4 tracks so I assume metro north takes the outer tracks and Amtrak takes the inner 2 tracks

@Cubbie410

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They already are lol

@falcoperegrinus82

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@@Cubbie410 Wrong. Metro North does not currently run on those tracks. Only Amtrak and freight.

@Cubbie410

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@@falcoperegrinus82 metro north and Amtrak ARE on the same tracks.. north of New Rochelle 😜😜 also I know. I said that tongue in cheek lol

I wonder why the name is H3LL gate 🤣🤣 because its going to the bronx

@aqua2poweros699

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It's actually because of the bridge it passes through. Called, the "Hell's Gate" Bridge.

@falcoperegrinus82

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The actual Hell Gate is the name of the strait between Randall's Island and Queens. It's not in the Bronx. It's named that because navigating it by boat involves rocks and strong currents.

This goes back to five , Governors , to republican Governor George Pataki . Republicans just couldn't do the job . That's why we voted ,blue .

@aqua2poweros699

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I mean Republicans also wanted to get this project done. One of them did speak in this video

@joseywales148

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You have the mind of a child

@leonidesreyesweshouldinven6246

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@@joseywales148 It's better than an old fart ,like your .

@leonidesreyesweshouldinven6246

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@@aqua2poweros699 So ! what does that mean . Squatted !

@aqua2poweros699

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Both democrats and republicans want to take part in this project.

No, use that money to stop fare increases

@aqua2poweros699

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Penn station access has been proposed for a while. I think it’s time for it to be constructed

FYI I’m cancelling thing project. Not a fan of the bronx. Seriously I’m sending a couple emails right now. Ok ttyl -Chuck

@jamesstpatrick8493

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Bronx is huge

@punchkicker3837

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@@jamesstpatrick8493 Brooklyn has the most people and Queens is the largest of the 5 boros by land mass dummy.

@eriklakeland3857

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If the Bronx was its own city, it’d be ahead of Dallas as the 9th most populous city proper. The difference being the Bronx is 44 sq miles while Dallas is 340. That sort of density demands better urban mass transit,

@LikeLikeLikeLikeLike

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@@eriklakeland3857 the bronx deserves a lot of things. #1 a better class of people #2 don’t speak to me

@Cubbie410

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@@LikeLikeLikeLikeLike a better class of people?? WhT you trying to say less people of color and more whyte people

Not too excited about this. This is a suburban project pushed by the MTA. East Bronx should have had a link using this ROW via the Second Ave SUBWAY extension. Politics kept getting in the way,stopping the subway project. East Bronx won't truly benefit from this route because it will lack connectivity to the CITY RAPID transit system..plus they will have to PAY METRO NORTH HIGHER FARES...PLUS PAY CITY TRANSIT FARES TO CONTINUE ANY FURTHER TRAVEL. NYC TRANSIT RIDERS aren't winning here,but suburban riders are.

@eriklakeland3857

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The Bronx needs a crosstown subway line so badly

@NickyD

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there is more then enough subway lines also with high crime subways arent gonna be popular

@RobinSentell

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The 6 train is already over crowded. This will alleviate some of it.

@believer5497

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@@NickyD Obviously, you don't know much. The subway is the life blood of the City. It needs to reach every possible corridor, to serve CITY RESIDENTS. The reason why NYC doesn't have more is due to corruption and political ranging. Don't let your bigotry bring you to common sense.

@believer5497

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@@RobinSentell Yeah, it might, for riders going to Grand Central. How about people who need to go elsewhere? Also,how about the New Haven trains that are full of passengers coming from Connecticut? Crowded trains ? Resentment? Yes, you definitely will see more "entitled suburbanites" feeling some kinda way on "their railroad". I'll say it again, this is NOT a good transit plan, nor is it good for the people of the Bronx. This is a suburban project, and the Politians had to gas it up as a win for NYC to smoke screen the real purpose.