This is useless comment, but because Steve has finnish roots: "peloton" is fearless in finnish :)

@stevelehto

3 жыл бұрын

No comments are useless!

@johnmorgan1629

3 жыл бұрын

No comment is useless all helps the algorithm. But 'No question is stupid,' is different, possibly, possibly not.

@rockstarltu

3 жыл бұрын

actually there is a stupid question. it is the one that you don't ask!

@Bob-Lob-Law

3 жыл бұрын

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@jeopardy4100

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bob-Lob-Law Was there something you wanted to say?

My favorite warning is the one on irons warning that you shouldn't use it on clothes while you are wearing them.

@scootskute

3 жыл бұрын

That's funny right up 'til you realize that there is a reason that it is included in the safety pages. In school, my son's classmate, probably about 14 years old, dripped a bit of solder on his arm. Rather than removing it, or asking for help, he decided that the best course of action would be to place the iron on the solder to try to melt it off of his skin . . . Those people are in society with us.

@davem5276

3 жыл бұрын

@@scootskute Yup, it's scary sometimes. I worked at a KFC as a kid. Had a co-worker who had a small fire break out in her pressure fryer. Rather than put the lid down and smothering the flames, she forgot ALL her training and tossed a bunch of flour on top....then, when the predictable happened, ran to the ice machine and grabbed a big bucket of crushed ice. The manager had to physically tackle her to the floor and restrain her to keep a catastrophe from happening.

@ElectroBotVideo

3 жыл бұрын

Mine is "Do not look into laser with remaining eye."

@thomascoolidge2161

3 жыл бұрын

30 years ago in a home ec class the class clown picked up an iron and asked “is this on?” and then proceeded to stick his tongue to it... he burned his tongue and had to go to emergency room. He then had a swollen tongue and was unable to eat solid foods for like 2 weeks while his tongue healed. That one incident caused him to grow up more than anything else in his life.

@andrewwilson3587

3 жыл бұрын

I saw a fellow college student try to remove one wrinkle while wearing the shirt. He ended up with a perfect imprint of the iron on his stomach in steam burn.

My Home Ec teacher always insisted that we use the back burners and keep the handles turned to the side when cooking. She said that toddlers sometimes reached up and pulled pots onto them. A few years ago I was using a computer at the library and my old Home Ec teacher was a couple of computers over. A young Mother sat down between us with a toddler that had a bandaged head and arm. I guess I looked a little too hard, the Mother said that the kid pulled a pot of boiling pasta onto herself. Later, I thanked my teacher, because I always followed her rules, even before we had kids.

@toomanymarys7355

3 жыл бұрын

My father did that as a child.

@S.Waters.

3 жыл бұрын

I learned all this from my mom, she started letting me bake with very little supervision when I was 9.

@richardcranium5839

3 жыл бұрын

it doesnt make sense that electric stoves have the controls on the top rear, yet gas ranges have them on the front. had a grandchild turn the burners on because he could reach them. dinners pizza box was on top and a fire started.(yeah stupid to put a flammable thing on a stove) think about it,- our childrens toys have buttons to push and KNOBS TO TURN. duh sadly most parents use the electronic babysitters(phones and tablets) and dont pay attention to the kids anymore.

@colonelpotter

3 жыл бұрын

My grandmother taught me how to cook and instilled that in me ( I was raised by my grandparents) I still do to this day and another rule I still follow is I’m in the kitchen while any appliance is on

The advice provided by my treadmill manufacturer (not Pelaton) was to remove the safety key and unplug the treadmill when not in use. That advice was not just to protect third parties but to prevent any electrical surge from destroying the electronics. The manual also recommended that children not “use or play” on the treadmill whether the unit is plugged in or not. (“It is not a toy”). I follow the advice in the manual.

@metaljacket866

2 жыл бұрын

But we know that with all the safety Warnings or precautions like the safety key , people will still be ignorant and leave the key in the treadmill , and then blame the system , certain irresponsible people always blame the system , oh wait , I meant to say "product " not system . :)

I mean there are lots of things we could buy that comes with warnings not to leave kids unattended around.

@imouse3246

3 жыл бұрын

Stoves immediately come to mind. Curb your kids people!

@pansepot1490

3 жыл бұрын

All plastic bags that wrap any appliance you buy come with warning of danger of suffocation if left in the hands of children. Simple plastic bags.

@Demonicpurity

3 жыл бұрын

@@imouse3246 Could you imagine the trade commission issuing a recall over benches because a kid was hurt after someone left a bunch of weight on and the kid was using it as a jungle gym?

@leo.girardi

3 жыл бұрын

Which is good. So if you want to get rid of your kids, you know what products to buy...

@timwoody3835

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! You! Be careful not to leave your keys in the car.

Now I can tell my wife the reason we don't have a treadmill is because I've been concerned about the safety of the kids.

@uttcftptid4481

3 жыл бұрын

My parents had a treadmill when my brother and I were little. We used to play on it all the time while they were at work or whatever, and we never got sucked under, our pets never got hurt or killed, because no child or pet is small enough to get sucked under a 3 inch gap...and other treadmill companies don't seem to be having this amount of child or pet injuries/death associated with their treadmills, because they don't build them high enough off the ground. There seems to be something about the design of this specific treadmill that makes it more dangerous than other treadmills.

@cyndirothrock511

3 жыл бұрын

You could use it to walk the 🐕. It would save you the excuse EXERCISE. Just turn it off when dog wants to wee on the wall on the hydrant picture.

@markm1514

3 жыл бұрын

There's a perfectly good sidewalk.

@gregGould

3 жыл бұрын

@@uttcftptid4481 - Cats and kittens can get into a 3 inch gap. They could possibly get injured or killed by a treadmill. Maybe even puppies or small dogs could get pulled under the moving track.

@uttcftptid4481

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregGould true that. We had those back in the late 80s/early 90s too in my house...I guess we just watched out better for our pets back then? Or had smarter pets who wouldn't get curious enough to stick their heads under running treadmills? Idk. Maybe my family is just smarter than the average bear cubs? I really don't know : ) I know accidents happen, but thankfully, they didn't happen to my family or the pets growing up in my house with a treadmill in the early 90s. My pets were always scared of loud things that whirred around : )

I own a treadmill and I'm going to have to say this particular issue is going to be a thing for any treadmills that don't have some sort of guard on the rear end. It would probably be best if they all had a rear guard. On the other hand, there's no reason not to treat the massive peice of machinery with respect it deserves. Fun fact: my treadmill doc says to attach the safety key to ones waist so if you uh...unexpectedly dismount the key is pulled out and it shuts off.

Treadmills are some of the highest torque electric motors to be found in any home.

As an old ass retired firefighter, in my opinion, the "dead man" switches on the mowers wad a result of men having heart attacks, and then gravity brought their mowers back over their bodies. I would love to blame stupid youth, but from my experience, the term "dead man switch" is accurate.

The single best warning label I have ever seen was on a Swedish branded chainsaw (so I am guessing a literal translation) which read "Do not stop chain with hands or genitals". I am assuming this actually meant "Don't hold the chain in your hands or between your legs while it is running" but I personally like the actual warning instead.

and now, on today's episode of "dangerous things are dangerous..."

I remember my mom had an old treadmill probably from the 90s, and it had this WONDERFUL safety measure, called an end cap which made it quite literally impossible to get 'sucked under' the treadmill If you could work something under the cover, there was more space under the treadmill tread than under the 'shielding' so if something was thin enough to get under the covers, it couldnt be touching both the treadmill and ground at the same time.

@dumbassdriversofdenver9113

3 жыл бұрын

That guard can cause more damage than getting pulled underneath. If you get pulled underneath the whole thing will come off the ground and you will only bear the weight of the machine. If your 16 or older that probably not going to injure you. That's why it's not for children to play with. If your pants or shoe lace gets caught between the belt and the guard your talking about the machine will try and suck you between the belt and the guard which can cause severe crush injuries because you can't fit between the two. It could snap an ankle leg or anything that stops as the clothes or shoelace continues to be pulled in. If you let children play on it they can be thrown off the edge and snap their neck or suffer from any number of injuries regardless of how much safety is added. You simply do not let children play with tools, they are not toys.

@denvera1g1

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumbassdriversofdenver9113 The argument changes a little bit if a full grown adult is on the treadmill. The same crushing injuries could happen if the shoe lace went under the side of the tread and wrapped around Edit i also seem to remember being able to stop the treadmill by placing one foot on the tread and the other on the floor, maybe the tread was overly loose, or maybe that was a safety feature to prevent the described crushing injuries

In today's episode of "I'm not taking responsibility for anything," parents of a child who didn't keep the kid away from the treadmill. These are the people who have to be told that water is wet and fire is hot.

@waitemc

3 жыл бұрын

Alot of that "I'm not responsible" going around these days.

@d1fballplayer

2 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment of the day😄👍

Ron White was right. "You can't fix stupid."

The safety keys I have used, and I'll admit that I am not familiar with the design on this brand, but the ones I have used have a cord that is meant to be clipped on to the belt line of the pants of the one running. If the runner moves off of the back of the machine it disables the machine so that the runner does not become part of one of those videos that we have all seen.

@MonkeyJedi99

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I had a cheaper brand and it had that safety key.

Just put a guard for the back or bottom of the treadmill. I have a treadmill (not peleton) it has a steel bar that runs across the bottom of the treadmill near the back. It maybe a structural member, but at the same time, it would prevent things from getting sucked under the treadmill.

@volvo09

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that may pinch a finger but it's better than getting sucked under.

@EwanMarshall

3 жыл бұрын

indeed, and is there something there that turns the treadmill off if it detects on object about to go in that gap? It is a laser diode, a diode and a transistor needed... Not exactly hard.

I immediately thought of George Jetson during the closing credits of The Jetsons.

@janetroberts4359

3 жыл бұрын

I was an ER nurse for many years; “lawnmower toes” is a real thing. And since you can’t fix stupid we end up protecting idiots from themselves.

@roxcyn

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on being the featured comment. 😁

Maybe Stephen King could write a follow up on "The Mangler" with the treadmill as the main character.

@deconteesawyer5758

3 жыл бұрын

Steven King fan here. Thanks: I missed that one.

@johankriel8883

3 жыл бұрын

@@deconteesawyer5758 The Mangler was a short story in Nightshift.

@deconteesawyer5758

3 жыл бұрын

@@johankriel8883 Ahh yes. So many good things. " The Lawnmower Man " was my introduction to consumer product safety.

Sadly, I was FORCED to stop loading my handgun while using my treadmill - after no less than TWELVE (accidental) bullet holes in walls and objects in our work out room (including our NEW 72" video monitor). It is pretty upsetting as the treadmill was my one "get away place". I will be joining the class action law suit AGAINST the treadmill company for their FAILURE to include proper gun loading safety measures. Thankfully my partner HATES pets and I'm allergic to children (that's a DIFFERENT lawsuit). You are so helpful we are moving to Michigan - any houses NEAR you for sale?

Got a new treadmill on craigslist for free, taking it apart right now to make a 72" knife grinder love those heavy-duty 2HP brushless motors!!

@bigbubba4314

3 жыл бұрын

A 72” knife is very large. Are you butchering elephants?

@bdp4

Жыл бұрын

@@bigbubba4314 cue monster hunter theme

I say remove all warning labels. If you bring the hair dryer into the shower, we don’t need you

@katiekane5247

3 жыл бұрын

For real! Anyone who needs a sign "do not stop chain with hand" shouldn't be using a chain saw. As a petite female, I've had places try to prevent me from buying a chainsaw, granted, this was decades ago. Now that I'm older, I realize I'm no longer able to safely operate one. I never got hurt with one because I KNOW I can't physically stop kick-back. Knowing your limits & understanding the physics of power tools is way more important than warning stickers.

@dragons_red

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with the sentiment, but your example is hyperbolic. There is a reason this crap exists and it started with companies knowingly releasing dangerous products that even people with brains could be harmed by.

@cyndirothrock511

3 жыл бұрын

We had to use the dryer in the BEDROOM. Dad said we hogged our 1 bathroom. And we needed to SHARE. He didn't tolerate a locked bathroom door when we were teenagers. ( unless we were USING WATER)

@thomascoolidge2161

3 жыл бұрын

Only two things are infinite... the stupidity of people and the universe and we’re not 100% sure about the universe. Every time you make something fool proof you breed better fools. Maybe it is time to let Darwinism go to work for humanity rather for idiocy.

@bigbubba4314

3 жыл бұрын

So the Darwin awards should be a competition now?

I grew up with a popcorn popper just like that too. It also worked to heat soup. It never got pulled off the counter in over 30+ YEARS we had it. However the popcorn did end up on the floor the couch and thrown at the dog. Cookie loved playing catch the popcorn. ( yes we HAD to clean UP)

The key has a strap that is designed to go around your wrist or attached to you in some way. So if you fall, it pulls out the key and the treadmill shuts off. Most if not all treadmills have this feature.

@toomanymarys7355

3 жыл бұрын

And no one uses like that because it's too easy to bump off.

Most treadmills have those safety keys. Ours does. Most people do not bother taking them out when they are not using them.

@Kahnanesgi

3 жыл бұрын

My take is such equipment should have other safety shut off features beyond that key. if the tread starts to get a resistance above a certain amount, shut it off, if the back end lifts up off the floor, shut it off. they all should have something like but for a four thousand dollar item that is supposed to be top of its class not to have those features is mind boggling.

@toomanymarys7355

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kahnanesgi Most treadmills do. I homeschool and my kids sometimes get their exercise by running on the treadmill, but they have to be pretty heavy before it will work. This is so if you fall off, you can't get pulled into it or skinned by the belt. The some company makes treadmill desks that don't have this sensor because they are less dangerous.

@tomwest8663

3 жыл бұрын

Point is, is it the company's fault if the buyer is too lazy or too stupid to read and understand the warnings? I don't think so but then again someone ordered coffee at McDonald's and spilled it on them and sued McDonald's because it was hot and they got burned. I thought everyone knew coffee was usually hot, guess not. People need to grow up and take responsibility for their actions and stop blaming everyone else.

@Kahnanesgi

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomwest8663 McDonald paid a lot of money for a PR spin that cast the coffee cases as a type spurious and a money grab or the consumer fault and it was money well spent it seems from your comment. but the facts are that that coffee was not just “hot,” but dangerously hot. McDonald’s corporate policy was to serve it at a temperature that could cause serious burns in seconds. Mrs. Liebeck’s injuries were far from frivolous. She was wearing sweatpants that absorbed the coffee and kept it against her skin. She suffered third-degree burns (the most serious kind) and required skin grafts on her inner thighs and elsewhere. She was not driving. She was parked and putting cream/sugar in when it tipped, accidentally, into her lap. Liebeck’s case was far from an isolated event. McDonald’s had received more than 700 previous reports of injury from its coffee, including reports of third-degree burns, and had paid settlements in some cases. Mrs. Liebeck offered to settle the case for $20,000 to cover her medical expenses and lost income. But McDonald’s never offered more than $800, so the case went to trial. McDonald’s admitted it had known about the risk of serious burns from its scalding hot coffee for more than 10 years. The risk had repeatedly been brought to its attention through numerous other claims and suits. McDonald’s operations manual required the franchisee to hold its coffee at 180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit. Coffee at that temperature, if spilled, causes third-degree burns in three to seven seconds. So to answer your question: It's complicated. Each case is going to be different and I'm most certainly not a lawyer. But if there are enough cases happening to show that there is an issue then the company can be, I think, held liable if there are reasonable safety measures that were omitted in interest of lower costs and higher profits. After all it was Ford who knew that the Pinto could explode under rare circumstances and decided it was cheaper to pay out damages if a car did blow up rather than go in and fix it. My cheap 30 dollar space heater has a tilt switch so I don't burn my house down. My hair dryer has overheat protection to keep the motor from burning out and if by some freak chance an errant strand of my hair gets pulled into the fan it sees the motor speed change out of bounds and breaks the circuit. My table saw has some nifty switch that will instantly shut the motor down and shunt the blade under the work surface in milliseconds if it touches something fleshy rather than cutting off a finger. In the video I saw in the article, I saw the back of the treadmill lift up off the floor and it continued running. That is, IMO, unacceptable. Does it make them liable? that's a Jury's decision. But now that they are aware of the issues, if they don't make changes, I'd say yes it would going forward. (edit: for typo and dropped word)

@georgemaragos2378

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, i dont know how many safety features the Peloton has, but by steves comments on the screen etc it has some high tech in it. Maybe it needs like a small radar of the screen to ensure some one is there But my parents have a machine with a little magnetic switch on a cord / laynard if you fall of it stops, if you move the magnet switch from the green square it stops The video in question with the kids has no adult supervision and it is running all the time, so i guess the safety switch is on all the time. Most people will point the finger at the parents , instructions, no one really reads them, warning stickers, yeah they are pretty colour, but these things are not toys - even toys are dangerous when unsupervised or with little kids To me, it should be a hazard warning video to people ( parents ) rather than a video directed hinting lawsuit to Pelodon for unsafe product.

I was using one of those lawn mowers Steve was talking about. If I look closely, I can still see the scar, 40+ years later...

The workout room at the apartment complex worked at had a 10 yr old model with a factory installed wrap around guard on the back that went to the floor so nothing could go under it.

I just looked under my Nordic Track treadmill that is about 12 years old. By the way, this is my 3rd one as I wore the other 2 out. It has a good foot of exposed returning belt underneath before a support bar blocks the return belt, but then it is open all the way to the motor housing in the front. Something easily could get caught and pulled under from the sides or back if it was running. My feelings on this is operators error. You don't stand behind a backing up car and expect to sue the car manufacturer. The people need to take responsibility for controlling the actions around themselves and or their children and pets. I don't have children, but when on the treadmill, I keep my pets far away as I can. Again, take responsibility for your surrounding area and quit blaming everyone else for your own inadequacies. MSgt David R. Smyth, USAF, Ret.

I was ejected through a faulty Tesla windshield, and promptly sucked under a rapidly moving peloton treadmill, after the autonomous driving software entered a recursive feedback loop, causing the brakes to slam on with unusual force,

@Tathanic

3 жыл бұрын

hmm this sounds like its the fault of

You are supposed to clip the string of the safety key onto yourself while using the treadmill. This way if you fall, it pulls the key from the unit and the treadmill immediately stops.

@need100k

3 жыл бұрын

All treadmills have that. This is a completely different issue.

@CraigCruden

3 жыл бұрын

@Donny D Yeah, and the only time I had that for a jetski incident - it did not work... it as the machine rolled the 'string' got wrapped around the handlebar and tangled up :o At least that is not likely to happen on a treadmill. My only experience with treadmills are the professional ones from gyms and I am having a hard time visualizing how a kid can be pulled underneath.

We are all used to running on treadmills, though. Those are called "jobs".

@patheticprepper4496

3 жыл бұрын

We all? Have you seen the peaceful protest lately.. ?

I've been working on exercise equipment for 15+ years. Peleton isn't the only manufacturer that has this type of design. I can tell you that most people don't follow the manufacturers instructions. Most people don't even read the warning labels on the side of the equipment. Compare this to the Cybex lawsuit years ago. Their "Eagle" line of strength equipment had a high center of gravity so they warned that all equipment MUST be bolted to the floor. When a personal trainer inevitably pulled one over on herself causing permanent paralysis you would think the installer or the facility owner would have been held mostly responsible, but it was Cybex. The final value of the suit after all the appeals wound up being over $90,000,000 with Cybex being held 90% responsible.

I have a kid (10) and still say leave it as is, darwin needs some help

The problem is user error. If I sold you a knife with warning all over the package not for children, and your kid stabs his/herself that's not on the manufacturer.

I have a treadmill and it has the same design... most if not all treadmills are designed that way aren't they?

@Username18981

3 жыл бұрын

Seems like half or more don't have a rear guard based on a general image search

@toomanymarys7355

3 жыл бұрын

A lot have weight based safeties. These would prevent the kid deaths.

I was watching this while dying my hair, instructions say “Do not wear contacts while using this product“ but it also says not to wear metal… I’m blind without my metal framed glasses or my contacts! I’m typing this after rinsing it out and while using Q-tips to dry out my ears!

@toomanymarys7355

3 жыл бұрын

The bits of metal touching your ears are covered in plastic. If you have metal directly touching your skin, you could get nasty chemical burns. Same with contacts.

@eelcosterringa1374

3 жыл бұрын

Visit a hairdresser

@denisenunya7054

3 жыл бұрын

@@eelcosterringa1374 if I could afford it...I’m disabled on a fixed income, rent takes all but $100 which I use to pay power and phone...a box of hair dye cost under $5 is a luxury I usually cannot afford. I dye my hair to cover the gray clumps that grew in after I was given meds at the hospital that made me hallucinate and thinking my hair was on fire I ripped it all out! Now I have silver-grey that won’t grow to be cool streaks...it looks like white Pom poms sticking out of my forehead! (Front of hairline) not cool!

So happy to have discovered your channel! Grateful new subscriber. Keep up the good work!

Your machine, then that's your responsibility for its usage !

Steve we had one of those, cloth cord and all, not at the "Turn of the Century" but back in the late 1950's. I am quite sure that a small child pulling on the cord might have had a similar or worse experience to the time that as a two-year old I pulled on the tablecloth containing cups of hot coffee and other liquids.

I had my hand and arm pulled between the rollers of an old-fashioned washing machine.

@paulfournier6509

3 жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to my older sister

@tiredoldmechanic1791

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was breasts that got caught in those.

@Davidsmusicselection

3 жыл бұрын

Me to

@thatgirlwhousedtohavereall5549

3 жыл бұрын

@@tiredoldmechanic1791 No that’s the hand held electric mixer. My ex-sister in-law got one of her jiggly bits caught in the whisks. She panicked & forgot to just push the release button ... went running to the neighbor for help 🤣

@fukkyoutube

3 жыл бұрын

now did you get the government to issue a recall on that washing machine?

There's a video out there, I've seen it but can't find it. Sometime around the turn of the 19th/20th century, Coney Island I think, there was this ride, shaped like a large smooth sloping dinner plate, you would sit/lay down on it, it would slowly start to spin, getting faster when it eventually started flinging people off, I guess the last to be flung was the winner.

Steve don't forget the lawn darts. It was a fun game but the point on it was dangerous

@yadayada752

3 жыл бұрын

Croquet, my brother, 6 hit my sister, 4 with the hammer on the head.

It wasn't a knucklehead teenager, that caused the safety feature on lawnmowers, it was my Dad. He was cutting the lawn at the side of our driveway. The grass sloped down to the driveway so when he went to pick up and move a tricycle, he tripped and the lawnmower starting rolling down the slope and sliced off his big toe.

@toomanymarys7355

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that used to happen a lot. Silly people don't realize that ideal operating conditions don't always prevail. People have fallen down slopes with a pre-safety lawnmower and gotten a lot more hurt than that....

@MonkeyJedi99

3 жыл бұрын

I had a friends we used to call "No-toe Croteau" because he was mowing his lawn barefoot and hungover and the mower rolled over his foot. In actuality, he split a toe in half, and ended up having eleven toenails. But the nickname we used rhymed better.

A child could also accidentally stab themselves with a fork. Do Forks need to come with warning labels?

Yup, I was one of those kids that grabbed a perculator coffee pot by the cord on a kitchen counter and 2-year-old CRL melted a sweater sleeve onto the skin of her arm, along with that scalding hot coffee. One can never be too careful with little ones near ANYTHING, including threadmills - it only takes a second. Safety First!

Agree or disagree: If lawn darts came with CPSC approved safety warnings they’d still be on the market.

Loved your story on Vinwiki👍🏽

Put a piece of metal at the dangerous place, hinged at the bottom, with a micro-switch at the perimeter to stop the motor when the piece of metal is moved.

@snaplash

3 жыл бұрын

And, if that safety is tripped, it should not start again unless some reset action is taken by the user.

@dumbassdriversofdenver9113

3 жыл бұрын

Don't let children and pets play on the exercise equipment. It's a tool not a toy. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a propane torch and a 5 gallon can of gas to play with, so why would you let them play with something that specifically says it's not for children all over it?

@toomanymarys7355

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumbassdriversofdenver9113 It's not about kids playing on it. It's about you working out in the living room, a child walking in behind you and touching it. Most treadmills have weight sensors and kids can use them, anyway. How realistic is it that you can't have an exercise device running in the same room as any child or pet????

@MonkeyJedi99

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumbassdriversofdenver9113 Funny story, I once played with gasoline and matches. It was during a peak year of Gypsy Moth caterpillars, and we would gather them into coffee cans and burn them. Didn't get hurt, but I did melt about ten square feet of the asphalt driveway...

@MonkeyJedi99

3 жыл бұрын

@@toomanymarys7355 It depends on how young and/or dumb your kids and pets are.

You mentioned the popcorn popper with the cord hanging down off the counter. This type of accident still occurs with electrical items on the counter top. The electrical code requires an outlet at the end of a peninsula type of counter. This almost promotes this type of accident. So far I’ve gotten away with NOT installing this outlet.

@stevelehto

3 жыл бұрын

The key here was the boiling hot oil directly over the head of the person tempted to pull on the cord.

Steve, I love the comment about Q-tips, I seem to have failed to read the instructions as I have a Q-tip in my left ear, atm

@yadayada752

3 жыл бұрын

My ENT told me I had very clean ears. I told him I used q-tips. He laughed.

who do you call if your Peloton eats your Roomba now we know that the dryer did not eat all those missing socks LMAO !!!

If you look at the NordicTrack X32i, a direct competitor to Peloton, as well as most other commercial treadmills, you'll notice a bar across the back, under the tread, which would seem to eliminate the problem. The Peloton treadmill does not have a bar.

They should recall steam irons. They look too much like a boat and there is a risk of a child taking it into the bath.

There's really no way to make a treadmill where it's safe. You can't make the back end of the belt where it doesn't pose a hazard. Put a guard over it and then it becomes a pinch point. Don't put a guard and it subsumes anything that hits it. Lose-lose.

@EwanMarshall

3 жыл бұрын

You can make it much safer than this though. Is it possible to make it 100% safe for a reasonable cost, probably not, but 1) guard, 2) sensor to detect foreign objects... One can make it much safer.

wait, do q-tips have a safety key?

We have a couple treadmills of other brands and the end is guarded a bit. Since the peloton tread+ isn't just a belt, but more like segments of a moving walkway if that's making it more of a problem. I wonder if when the segments separate and close if that's causing things to get grabbed when it pinches closed after the bend makes it more likely to get pulled under without a guard than other belt based ones.

it begs the question then is a toaster maker liable and need a recall on toasters if someone puts their fingers in it while the toaster is on? i mean you were given instructions with warnings for the operation of the unit. this is not the fault of the manufacturer but the owners of the treadmill.

I just looked at pictures of a Peloton treadmill and it would appear that there is a large clearance space between the floor and the underside of the belt. The actual design seems minimalist to the extreme yet the price is in excess of 5,000 GBP I assume that is for the fancy electronic panel and package in the machine. How something or someone could get dragged under seems difficult to work out unless they got something caught within the rotating belt. May be this is more a case of people not using their common sense whilst operating the machine. Tragic as a child's death is the actual circumstances need to be investigated before blaming the manufacturer. I agree with Steve that both Peloton and the Feds need to communicate with each other to get to the root of the problem without issuing blanket demands for a recall or ban.

Simple version of a fix for the treadmill. You insert the key, it starts up normally. If you're not on it for a period of 60 seconds, the key relay resets to off. You have to turn it to the start position again to run. It would be like an ignition in a car that turns off the engine if you leave it in the run position but in park without pressure on the brake. [No, I'm not suggesting that for cars, but it's the easiest analogy I can draw] The key has 3 positions off, run and start. The motor starts the treadmill when there's more than 40 lbs on the treadmill and the key moves to the start position. When you release the key it defaults to the "run" position, if the weight on the treadmill is under 40 lbs for more than 60 seconds, the motor switches off. To restart the motor, you step up onto the treadmill and turn the key again to the start position. Safety wise: The treadmill will not start with less than 40 lbs load, anyone who should be using it should be well over 40 lbs, and if it's left without a 40+lbs load for 60 seconds, it simply turns off the motor. takes a fraction of a second to restart, but if you're off of it for 60 seconds, you've stopped running. Additional bonus, harder to accidentally start, and will shut off on its own if you get a knock at the door then forget it's running. Just saying, safety features can be easily implemented. Another would be don't leave the belt exposed in such a way as to pull things under it.

Our Nordic Track treadmill has a key but also a steel bar across under the roller so nothing can jam in there. Another one we had used a plastic guard across the end of the belt but one could, I suppose, jam a hand in there. Perhaps Pelotron could design something like that in the future. Put the damn key out of reach.

I actually perforated my eardrum once with a Q-Tip. Phone rang mid cleaning. Picked up the phone, but left the Q-Tip in my ear... don't worry, I didn't hold the phone up to that ear. It wasn't until I reached to grab the Q-Tip again that I misjudged the distance. I still use them, but much, much more carefully, mostly to dry the inside of my ear after a shower.

Guilty well I was twelve and briggs and straton, left heel. High tops probably saved my foot.

Why not include pressure sensors that shut off the motor if no weight is detected on the treadmill after a few seconds?

They could add a plastic cover to that area, though I have seen other brands of treadmill with the same issue.

Required sticker: "Do not dry pets in microwave oven."

George Jetson got tangled up in one of those when he took Astro for a run - and someone caught it on video!

I think most tread mills have a very small chance of physical injury . most tread mill have a big chance of causing wrinkles to the clothes that end up being hung on the makeshift clothes tree ( tread mill).

@MonkeyJedi99

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the laughs!

I feel like a lot of treadmills put a bar/plastic guard on the back to try avoiding this sort of thing.

@michaelslee4336

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that the “rubber” tread mat is just so grippy that it can just pull anything in, guards or not. If these machines were used in industrial applications they would be heavily guarded so people couldn’t get injured. Damn they are scary when you really think about it.

@slightlycrookedworkshop

3 жыл бұрын

​@@michaelslee4336 If you look at the NordicTrack X32i, a direct competitor to Peloton, as well as most other commercial treadmills, you'll notice a bar across the back which would seem to eliminate the problem. The Peloton treadmill does not have a bar.

@scarling9367

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelslee4336 😆 Heavily guarded....that's a good one.

@Username18981

3 жыл бұрын

I have a nordic track treadmill and it does not. It isn't universal or something peleton just doesn't do.

@frankhage1734

3 жыл бұрын

It would seem prudent to put interlock bars (fenders) in place to bring the tread to a slow stop if tripped. And a weight feature that prevents it from turning on unless someone weighs at least 80 lbs.

If I get on my treadmill while drunk do I sue Peloton or 7-11 for my injuries ? & Can I be charged with operating a virtual motor vehicle while impaired ? *btw. the Manual does not say not to use while under the influence...

@lawrencebraun7616

3 жыл бұрын

Don't give our law maker's dies how to fine people to make money.

All motorized Treadmills have a safety key attached to a string and clip (same system as many speed boats and all Jet Ski's have). You're SUPPOSED to attach the key's clip to your belt, pocket, wrist strap etc. so if you trip, stumble, fall or otherwise leave the machine while it's operating, the key gets pulled away from the machine and automatically kills the motor.

Our local Taco Bell had to remove a light pole from their parking lot because drunks kept hitting it. It was the first light after going through the drive-through and was outside the clearly marked (with arrows) lane to the parking lot exit. The paint transfer evidence on the concrete base convinced the court that the lamp pole was a hazard and it was reasonable to believe that drunk drivers would hit it.

@nonionbeezness

3 жыл бұрын

Here society missed an opportunity. The Taco Bell Exit should have a zig zag Exit with a deep ditch to either side and sensors in the bottom to detect a vehicle in the ditch that auto calls the police to come arrest the idiots. Nope. This is murica where we want to ensure the impaired drivers can safely reentry the roadway to cause more serious damage elsewhere.

From an engineering liability standpoint they would be required to design the treadmill and provide safety features consistent with the “state of the art” of similar products. “State of the art” meaning “what is the norm” not the best possible newest idea ever. It seems they have done so, in combination with the necessary warnings. The state of the art can and does charge over time (ie seatbelts, airbags, etc.). There would have to be something inherently more dangerous with their treadmill versus treadmills in general.

I love exercise. I can sit and watch it all day. :)

Laughing at YT's ad choice for me for this; an at home boxing program.

@MonkeyJedi99

3 жыл бұрын

Is it the Chris Brown Home Gym?

A treadmill is too dangerous for 16 year olds? Maybe it should be recalled. I use a real bicycle on real streets, something a 6 year old can do. I'm 70+, could I pedal one of these danger bikes?

This is not the manufacturer's issue, this is the lack of awareness of the caregivers of these children and pets.

Congrats on 179 K

I can't help but wonder if George Jetson is in on this somehow.

Used to watch a poker stream on Twitch, by a professional poker player who owned a young Husky. The dog would step onto the treadmill in the background, pull a cord, and run on it. I have to crate my dog when I used the treadmill, (it has been a clothes hanger for a couple of years) because he goes crazy and tries to defend me from it. Good dog! Hate exercise.

It seems to me that I hear about this same issue with treadmills of any make every few years.

You broke the first rule of owning a Peloton. You need to put it in the background of your video so people know you have a Peloton

If we would have told my cousin stumpy not to clean out the wood chipper by hand we would still be calling him Harry.

@frogface3975

3 жыл бұрын

except thats a line from 2 and a half men.

@dougjones9493

3 жыл бұрын

@@frogface3975 we have a winner

@frogface3975

3 жыл бұрын

@@dougjones9493 gotta luv berta😜

The safety on lawnmowers serves another purpose as well. I once lost control of a self-propelled, walk-behind mower on a hill when a swarm of bees came at me. The mower was an old one without a safety contraption (or front blade guard) and kept on going. Fortunately for others & ornamental flowers nearby the mower stopped after colliding with a tree.

I can see both sides of the argument here. Almost any large exercise equipment could cause serious injury if misused, malfunctioned, worn out, or if children are left unattended around it. Exercise equipment may have bands under high tension, heavy weights that could crush body parts, and motorized moving parts that pass into constricted spaces. No matter how safe the product is designed, there will likely be some inherent risk of injury. On the design issues, the Peloton treadmills do not appear to be markedly dissimilar from other treadmills on the market, so they'd have to litigate if the design is actually more or less prone to cause injury from misuse and how Peloton has mitigated or responded to design flaws in the past. If Peloton is aware the key is being left in their machine they could redesign it so the key must be reinserted if the machine has been inactive for a period of time. With the pandemic, in addition to more people buying/using home exercise equipment, more children are at home due to distance learning and reduced nanny/daycare/afterschool services. Thus, there are likely more people using their equipment when their children are around and more chances children may be left unattended or left ill-supervised (e.g. monitored by older children).

My John Deere mower could be started and the blade would not spin until you activated the blade brake. When the deadman switch was released, the blade just stopped. Very simple and yet effective. Now I have to restart my mower just do something simple like empty the bag.

@61rampy65

3 жыл бұрын

I had one of those stupid new mowers. A C-shaped hook thingie made out of a coat hanger kept the engine (and blade) running when I let go. Maybe I'm weird, but, gee, I NEVER put my hands or feet anywhere near the blade.

You're explanation of how kids get pulled under the treadmill is correct. What you are missing is that on some treadmills their is a stationary bar that goes across the read of the treadmill band so that while it might be possible for you to get your finger pulled inbeween the bar and the treadmill band you could not get a child or pet pulled under the treadmill. The other design problem with the Peloton version is the height of the treadmill off the floor, some other treadmills are not raised as high off the floor again making it less likely for any hildes head to be pulled under it. And finally if you look at the distance between the top and bottom of the treadmill band the peloton version is about 6 to 8 inches others are as short was 2 inches, why does that matter? well at the end where the treadmill band goes down before going under the peloton has several times as much surface area going down which means it will be easier for it to pull someone or something down into the real danger area. If you look at the peloton compared to other treadmills it really isn't designed for safety the other treadmills are. Any of them can be dangerous and if you research the injuries they are not reserved to children, adults have also fall on the things and then gotten their hand and arm pulled under the treadmill.

Would this be the same as Heath food bars with nuts in the ( macadamia honey crunch) having a warning on the back saying this product may contain nuts .

Love your videos

Seems easy enough to fix from Peleton perspective. Backside should have a cover so the part that pulls is not exposed on the underside. Looking at pics of commercial treadmills it does look like some have protection and others do not. Peleton does look particularly exposed as it is higher off the ground than all other treadmills.

😂 intro ad was for fitness equipment, perfect!

Do other treadmills have a casing on the bottom?

But can I still use my treadmill for its primary end use, as a clothing rack?

There is no easy fix for stupidity!

Ben behind The Steve's head, resting on the rear quarter panel of the Tucker

@yadayada752

3 жыл бұрын

2nd place 🥈😎🍹✔

As a lot of people say "Nanny State". How much must the State do to protect idiots from injuring themselves or others after they have been warned? No different from being told not to "drink and drive" yet how many people get injured and killed each year?

G.E. was told to issue a recall on Electric Stoves. Parents pretending they don't have children, have had children injured by the stove. "I should be allowed to drink my wine without my kids burning themselves!" A mother says.

@christophercripps7639

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine the sales potential of any kind of stovetop which had a "deadperson" button requiring the user to hold the button down to continue heating (sarcasm). In today's "smart" appliance, interconnected world you'd need to swipe your Real ID 18 card & let a sensor compare biometrics on file to prove you are over or whatever.

Daily sweet stories for my morning ☕️

There are several easy fixes Peloton can make to improve the safety of their product. Add a guard to the side and rear, add a pin code to start the treadmill, or start the program before activating the treadmill. They want the treadmill to look cool and techie with only the most basic safety features. A treadmill with only basic safety features works in a gym setting, but not in the living room or bedroom in a house with kids and pets.

you indicated there was a clip, likely a nanny cam. 1) why do you have a nanny cam pointing at a tread mill? 2) what about the footage before the incident? who turned it on? the kids or an adult that left and did not turn it off. I do have a treadmill, ProForm. We have a safety key. It is always on the system, and my wife connect to it when she runs, I do not (run or use the safety key)

Love the George Carlin reference at the end 😂 What does it mean to pre-board? Do you get on before you get on? That’s another complaint if mine, too much use of this prefix pre it’s all over the language now, pre this, pre that, place the turkey in a pre-heated oven, it’s ridiculous there are only two states an oven can exist in, heated or unheated, pre-heated is a meaningless f***ing term, it’s like pre-recorded, this show was pre-recorded, well of course it was when else are you going to record it afterwards 😂😂

On every mower that I have ever owned or used, I put a zip tie or piece of wire loosely on the deadman lever. It can be slid to the side when I want to shut it off. Its tiring enough to mow in Florida summers without pullstarting the mower every time I need to stop to move something. Somehow, I manage to resist the temptation to touch the spinny sharp thing on the bottom.