Remember , they also work very well toghether too (Pela+Jiaoqiu) in a Acheron team

@bluuchandesu

10 күн бұрын

for e0/e1 yes, but e2+ no its better to use one nilhility + harmony.

@smirking_moon

10 күн бұрын

@@bluuchandesu yeah but not everyone has parents with money for that 😭

@bluuchandesu

10 күн бұрын

@@smirking_moon never claimed anyone did but it was a clarification plus this showcase is showing off an e2 acheron.

@jasquezmarxis4751

9 күн бұрын

@@bluuchandesu thank you captain obvious

@ThanhPham-tg4jb

6 күн бұрын

@@smirking_moon acheron banner release along with hoyo birthday events, u can easily get her e2s1 if u have at least 100 pull before that banner

And here I was hoping for Ruan Mei tier nihility support... alright... 😭

@Vindenci

7 күн бұрын

v3 tomorrow, lets see what will change and don't copium hard another unit like Ruan mei will take some time to come

@3.16music

7 күн бұрын

@@Vindenci I mean yeah, but harmony is eating good while nihility (supports) is starving. If they can make OP harmony, what stops them from making OP nihility

@sigewinnieee

7 күн бұрын

ngl i cried abt this 💀 why couldnt they make him not niche asf? i love that man and ill get him anyways but i dont want to feel like im losing dmg just cuz hes not with acheron

@dragunityx12

7 күн бұрын

@@3.16music "what stops them from" broke playerbase stops them. not me though, my money is UP

@gambit2324

7 күн бұрын

@@3.16music op nihility? you mean like acheron?

It’s V1 chat. By no means will this be comparable to launch. Could be better, could be worse. Just putting this out there.

@TheoDimitry

8 күн бұрын

it's v2

@jerryeljeremy7790

8 күн бұрын

@@TheoDimitry V2 with no changes

@Whopper-Pixbells

8 күн бұрын

When is V3 available?

@RealMelodyHinari

8 күн бұрын

@@Whopper-PixbellsV3 within some hours for now

@Whopper-Pixbells

7 күн бұрын

@@RealMelodyHinari Thx

Omg thank you for the vid

Reasons why u pull him for acheron: 1. e0 Acheron 2. More stacks faster Thats basically it. You can choose to pull him if u are dolphin just for e2 because its still even the slightest better than pela so yeah.

@OlexiVR

5 күн бұрын

even for E2 it's better because any debuffer + Jiaoqiu will allow more ultimate rather than 1 debuffer + 1 harmony

This is so sad I don’t want the yae miko worst than fischl situation coming to star rail 😢 (pink fox real friend)

@miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450

8 күн бұрын

Fischl is better at c6, without it Yae is better is most teams

@tokyo-sz4zd

7 күн бұрын

Who is he worse than? He’s legit giving Acheron stacks faster than anyone else in game. Also, this is a comparison with E2S1 Acheron, which lessens his stack generation value.

@critanddam9031

7 күн бұрын

@@miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450still fucking sad, the fact that yae needs fischl to perform well is insane

@miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450

7 күн бұрын

@@critanddam9031 as a on fielder Yae? Yes, but with dendro she's better

@punyanuchpotiumpol9518

7 күн бұрын

@@tokyo-sz4zd in overall kit pela is so much better in MOST team and this is the FACT

He really needs a good buff to put him above other debuffers if he's gonna be worth pulling

Last time I saw people say a character is just the 5 star version of "x" it was Kazuha and he ended up being the most disgusting support in genshin. Even if gets nothing in v3, I'm still swiping for him and lighr cone. Cant have an acheron team without everyone's signature lc.

@sorashizen5130

6 күн бұрын

He got nerfed a lot

@Kindi001

5 күн бұрын

you miss the point. buff value wise Succrose still better. Grouping wise kazuha better. but its not the same with this Jiaoqu (?) and Pela. if your Acheron at E0 Abillity pela to still debuff and generate sp is stupidly high. and if using pearless sweat S5 thats mean Pela cannstack 56% deff shreed and its insane honesly.

@justforfunje

5 күн бұрын

we already have Ruan Mei as Kazuha of HSR, this V3 fox definitely no another Kazuha

@feyandhisstuff9888

5 күн бұрын

Kazuha is much more stronger and universal unit than any of HSR’s units tho. Because you can’t really use chars in any other than designed state and kazuha even more universal than ruan mei

@justforfunje

5 күн бұрын

@@feyandhisstuff9888 they are not even in same game, and you arguing about who is stronger, LOL

Rip they went and made him a DoT hybrid really…

@kacperwrona9280

2 күн бұрын

I'm on with that ngl

Tbh as of now i think i will skip him maybe i can change my mind after v4-5 but .....he is better then pela i think but definitely not that much better that i should waste 80-160 pulls ( plus i am so excited for feixiao )

Given the new changes(the one that makes him and his LC DOT based) could you do E0S1 Jiaoqiu vs E6 Guinaifen with Jiaoqiu’s LC?

@critanddam9031

7 күн бұрын

He’s still ass

can you try pela + sw vs jiaoqiu in AS

Can you do the same team with e1s1 Jioaqui?

“Worst then Pela” they said Base on a showcase which both of them finished in the same amount of cycle 😂. He clearly better than pela, yes they perform the same in this scenario, but have you people ever think about PF and apocalytic shadow? 🤷‍♂️

@substainablejuices9695

7 күн бұрын

they would perform the exact same in apoc, but in PF yes he is better, would actually make acheron viable in there

@Jarubimba

7 күн бұрын

The problem is if he ends up being a niche support mostly to Archeron. While Pela is viable in various compositions He's by far the best Archeron support. But if ends up being only that, people without her will mostly lose interest in pulling for him

@deedee3355

7 күн бұрын

@@Jarubimba yes im agree with you in some way it is also a let down, but to be frank this game already going to that way since couple patch before, even not only niche support we even get a niche dps. Also based on what you said, in my opinion Jiaoqiu is for someone who already have Acheron or at least someone who already play this game since dont know maybe since 1.x version of this game, cause again if we are new its better to have dps or sustain limited character to help us advancing this game further

@SekaiCake

7 күн бұрын

Acheron E2-Haver here.. was hyped about him but yeah.. From my POV he is basically just a Ult Battery (exclusive to Acheron) and makes PF easier.. but is it worth it? ​@@Jarubimba

@deedee3355

7 күн бұрын

@@SekaiCake it depends on you tho, do you like Acheron that much it makes you want to have her best support? If yes, then he is really worth your pull, cause just like you said, he is just battery for Acheron ult, meanwhile Acheron ult is her main kit.

Bro cooked himself

He is basically just there to stack Acheron ult, damage wise they basically the same.

Can u so a e1 vs e0 jq

Acheron e4+lc, pela e6, galgher e6 and rm+lc is enough for me xD just wait another dps for second team, dont hv enough sj for firefly btw 😢

Why wait until it becomes acheron’s turn before using her ultimate. Since you were maxed, she missed out on stack(s). Should’ve ult’d right after sparkle’s.

@Sirciel

7 күн бұрын

I'm guesing u meant at 2:46??? Hes doing that cause he want acheron to have sparkle buff first before ult

Deal more 10% , yes it is worth it 😀

0:30 How did Acheron get her 9th Stack fot ultimate??

@Kiyoshiii-

7 күн бұрын

e2

Hmm.. Deal cycle is strange..😢

can you show the builds at the end please ?

@giuseppe99gs

7 күн бұрын

They are in the description

agora o jogo esta soltando a mao dos elementos fogo kkk pq topaz nem vou falar sobre kkk

they do the same so tis worth pull the lc instead midiaoqiu

I be honest. I don't care if he's good with Acheron or not, as long he can fire debuff that is enough.

skip, save your valuable hard earned jades

@XuanBachTrinh-of3pb

10 күн бұрын

Unless you don't have E2 Acheron

@NamRuto

8 күн бұрын

Who asked??

@r_quiem6288

8 күн бұрын

@@NamRuto can people not get any more obnoxious? this is a comparison of a character’s viability *in battle* vs a similar character with the same purpose in the same team. if you like the character, pull. but dont yap and cry about it in spaces where, clearly, you are not the target audience 😭😭

@NamRuto

8 күн бұрын

@@r_quiem6288 You suppose to tag and say this to that Owen guy. Not me xd

@cinnaxscaralover

8 күн бұрын

@@NamRutome

That... Barely made any difference?

@giuseppe99gs

11 күн бұрын

He gives a lot of stacks for acheron ulti, dmg wise is very similar to pela, the stacks are useful in pf or if you don't have e2 acheron

@Msaber2012

10 күн бұрын

@@giuseppe99gs I don't even use Pela on my acheron team anyways. I use SW which is more damage. He does seem extremely underwhelming for a 5 star.

@meowblaziken5634

10 күн бұрын

@@Msaber2012 it his v1 kit, he will definitely will be buff/rework

@NamRuto

8 күн бұрын

@@Msaber2012Since when a debuffer wanted to deal huge dmg?? 💀

@Msaber2012

8 күн бұрын

@@NamRuto what does that even mean? 🪨🥥🐆🎁🛍

Why not together 😂

@Fernando-pg5sn

3 күн бұрын

E2 Acheron lol 🦖🦖🦖

@Zacharywilliamz

3 күн бұрын

@@Fernando-pg5sn not every one whales bro. At this point we lucky to even have the 5 stars at the rate they're releasing them

@user-yz1mw3jh6j

3 күн бұрын

Hes good for e0 acheron, this is comparison for e2 acheron

So... he's E6 Pela. I was so hyped for Jiaoqiu before because he was rumored to be an E6 Pela AND a sustain. Now he's just the most skipable character of all time. Well my Gepard will be happy to hear it, he won't be out of a job! 😂 Is it just me or did Aventurine do nothing but sustain for this team? At least give him Trend. Although enemies actively tried to avoid hitting him so even that might not have done anything lol.

@The0desss

10 күн бұрын

Jiaoqiu is still in beta, wait for at least v3 before saying that bs.

@bjornnilsson2941

10 күн бұрын

@@The0desss I’m not going to cope about him going back to being a solo sustain. If it happens I’ll be happy to be proven wrong but it won’t unless the beta testers complain and even then it’s a slim chance.

@thouartseraph

10 күн бұрын

@@bjornnilsson2941he was never going to be a solo sustainer. It was reported and rumored that he could heal, yes. However, the healing was also reported to be very minuscule and by no means good enough for solo sustain. 0-cycle is diff story though.

@bjornnilsson2941

10 күн бұрын

@@thouartseraph ok not Luocha level but since you can sustain even with Welt for short battles, if Jiaoqiu had a heal he could probably have sustained for 2-3 cycle clears which is real all Acheron needs.

@thouartseraph

10 күн бұрын

@@bjornnilsson2941 Acheron doesn't really need anything but more Light cone options for F2P if you ask me.

4 star sidegrade WTF hoyo cook?

@Kristofy1

9 күн бұрын

pela is truly the xingqiu of hsr

@SlL222

8 күн бұрын

I remember one dude was claiming that Acheron is TOP tier while using trash supports like pela…. I wonder when pela became trash….

@destock1637

8 күн бұрын

​@@SlL222 to be fair acheron have a free charcater called pela who is better than some limited 5*. Cof cof im looking at you seele fraudfly and black swan.

@raphzer0131

4 күн бұрын

@@SlL222Tell me a single team where Pela>RM or Pela>Sparkle, not a single one, she is strong but not enough to compare

@SlL222

4 күн бұрын

@@raphzer0131 what? Who says pela>>> than limited supports you mentioned?

is pela better than silverwolf?

@oussamaalaoui9121

4 күн бұрын

In multiple targets? Yes

He's a support? I thought he will be in DoT team 😅

@SekaiCake

7 күн бұрын

He is Nihilty/Debuffer (Increasing DMG) and also does some DMG here and there

@oussamaalaoui9121

4 күн бұрын

He have some DoT in his kit But not a strong one He is more like a debuffer

Why Pela wear Jiaoqiu's LC?

@vitorjjgameplays5786

4 күн бұрын

Pré-nerf. The LC was not exclusive to DoT until V3.

I'm so glad, that he worth to pull

Is opening with acheron's tech on calus a private server thing only?

Please do pela vs jiaoqiu in dr ratio team

Not worth to pull at all LMAO

@NamRuto

8 күн бұрын

Who asked?? And its still in V1. HSR players couldnt read lol🐧

@pyn.p4511

8 күн бұрын

@@NamRutoand who ask you? It’s v2 wth

@Sunhwk

8 күн бұрын

@@pyn.p4511 V2 of him had no changes whatsoever. And not worth pulling is a bit... yeah. This is an e2 Acheron - and both him and Pela are finishing on the same cycle. In PF or AS, specially if you have e0 - as most players do - he is way more valuable. His value was always his debuff stacks for acheron - debuff wise vulnerability is still better than def shred.

@The_CodFish69

7 күн бұрын

@@pyn.p4511and the V3 is usually the massive change with V4 adjusting the V3 changes just like with Acheron and FF post V3/4 for them to where they are now.

@NamRuto

7 күн бұрын

@@pyn.p4511 Another Honki Star Bucks Player still cannot read moment😭😭

Just a npc after all