I remember watching payback as a teenager. I recently bought the film on blue ray with both versions. I watched the directors cut first, thinking it would just be added scenes and such. I watched the third act thinking “this isn’t what I remember.” And all along the way I noticed slight differences that I shrugged off as poor memory. Obviously I realized there were two different films. But this sheds a lot of light on why, and I appreciate the directors cut that much more for it.

@geneyocum8633

Жыл бұрын

Yup! Same!

I was an extra on that film shot in Chicago. I was on the train at the end when all hell broke loose and was what I thought to be "really involved" and then when the film released in the theater I was so disappointed to see that they completely remade the ending. I finally got to see the original version and low and behold I saw myself, on screen no less than 15 feet from Mel Gibson! I was so excited, and am so grateful that Hollywood decided to release this version that I was a part of!

@KyleCorwith

2 ай бұрын

So cool! I would love to know the timecode so I could see where in that sequence you’re at…

wow, after watching this video i didn't know there were 2 versions of this movie! good job putting this together and i hope your channel grows

@KyleCorwith

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying so, and share gleefully!

@jchuck316

Ай бұрын

I"m really curious what the original director thinks of the Theatrical Cut.

Love the video. Amazing how much you informed me on one of my favorite movies.

I had the VHS back in the early 2000s. I can't count how many times I've watched it. Last week I found a DVD copy at a local used book store I frequent on their buy 2 get one free rack. 3 movies for 4$. So I grabbed it. It's been years since I've seen it, and it was still as awesome as ever. The world it takes place in is so gritty and unique, I really would've loved to see it expanded on. I have only ever seen the theatrical cut but it seems the general consensus is it's superior to the alternate version.

@KyleCorwith

Жыл бұрын

You’d be surprised! There’s a mixed bag in these comments with love for the theatrical, and on the flip side, an equivalence of love for the director’s cut.

I love both Versions but I do like the Theatrical version a little more but again both are Great

Had this on vhs. Gritty... yes... controversial scenes... absolutely. That's what made this movie so good. A cynical comedy..... Dark and I can't find this movie anywhere online!

@lazylazenbyproductions

6 ай бұрын

One year late, but it’s free with Amazon prime at the moment! The theatrical is probably my favorite movie of all time.

Well done Kyle!!

I prefer the directors cut because it's a throwback to classic 70s neo noir films like Get Carter or Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia. The theatrical version might have had a much more explosive ending and was more upbeat but I prefer the gritty and downbeat endings. I also like porter in the directors cut because he is more Anti-hero.

@speabody

9 ай бұрын

Your final line highlights another difference, in that in the theatrical you could argue he's not even an anti-hero, making the tagline "get ready to root for the bad guy" hollow. I am not automatically a "darker and edgier = better" guy but I'll take that over "this is too sad, make it happy!" studio meddling that we all claim to hate. It is ironic that it is in fact grittier even though it has warmer tones and the theatrical has the cringey, god-awful blue filter of the late 90s and early 00s. I can't tell which I hate more, the filter or Kristofferson as the villain.

I’ve read or listened to the entire Parker series. Amazing. Even the Alan grofiled spin-off is great. But I can’t find either Payback version in digital format. I’ll keep looking, and strongly recommend people who liked this movie to read/listen to the other Stark/Westlake creations

Great video. I love watching them back to back

@KyleCorwith

3 жыл бұрын

Do you prefer one over the other?!

@josephswann5192

3 жыл бұрын

@@KyleCorwith I think I enjoy the theatrical a little more but that's mostly due to nostalgia and the music. I'm a big fan of the Parker novels and The Director's cut feels much closer as an authentic adaptation.

@KyleCorwith

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephswann5192 It almost seems you’re conflicted still. That’s what I love about having two quality versions of the same movie!

@josephswann5192

3 жыл бұрын

@@KyleCorwith Definitely am haha

I'm actually shocked to hear that there is a director's cut of this film. I clicked on it thinking they were comparing the original *Point Blank* with Lee Marvin to *Payback* with Mel Gibson, both based on a Donald E.Westlake book called *The Hunter*. I loved the gritty noir original and thought the new version found itself torn between gritty and humorous and perhaps that's what happened with two directors. Now, I'm curious to see the Director's Cut to see if it holds up well.

I didn’t even KNOW there was a directors Cut version out there?!?

@KyleCorwith

2 жыл бұрын

Check it out, come back and tell us what you thought! 😃

I didnt know there was another version! Hell yeah i have to find it. Such a bleak badass film

The directors cut is a masterpiece it's an Homage to neo noir movies like Michael Mann's Thief and Scorsese's taxi driver, the main point of thoes movies is not the plot but a character study it goes back to spaghetti westerns when the silent 'professional' comes to the crooked town to take what's 'hes' but great movies like that are mostly overlooked. the theatrical cut was more plot driven and politically correct (Basically leather weapon/any 90s action movie) its telling the audience that its OK to laugh at the violence and their are no consequences to the protagonist actions which is fine and admittedly entertaining but not true to the character of porter. P.s thank you! for this work its one of my favorite movies of all time and don't have the recognition its deserves.

@josephback-upaccount6116

Жыл бұрын

Theatrical cut is a better movie.

@wet-read

Жыл бұрын

​@@josephback-upaccount6116 In what ways?

Nice work!! Best scene two dirty cops one black dude in predator was talking about his ice maker in the boat. "I think stiggys been holding out " I think they should make a sequel to this called" back pay." Porter owes 43 000 in debt from a previous job and they want it back with interest

Dude I love this movie!! First saw it on cable and the second or third time it was on cable as half of a double matinee on my day off with the modern version of Get Carter; I was in movie heaven! Had no idea there was a newer cut but I’m not sure if I’d want to see it. Maybe at some point…

@KyleCorwith

4 күн бұрын

@@AndrewFloydWebber It’s worth it.

I remember seeing things in the trailer for the theatrical version that I wouldn’t see intercut until the director’s cut.

I was on the set of the ending of the directors cut. Which is the original. When I first saw the release in theaters I was like damn. What happened to the ending? Glad they made both movies available. I like them both. Because I'm a Kris Kristofferson fan.

@KyleCorwith

2 жыл бұрын

Neat! You were crew or extra? How’d that day go for you?

@j-rschmoove

2 жыл бұрын

@@KyleCorwith yep extra. It was fun. Fun fact Mel Gibson had the flu during that part of the filming.

@wet-read

Жыл бұрын

But Porter kidnapping his son made no sense. I always felt that way, even before the Director's Cut became known to me, and I would skip the end of the film because I hated it so much. Then, seeing the real, better, version of the film, I felt vindicated! The train station bit wasn't altogether surprising, as the trailer featured the woman shooting Porter (a part that was obviously not in the cinematic release). P.S. I felt the same way about Biff in Back To the Future Part 2. Biff was a colossal dick, of course, but I didn't think he was capable of cold blooded murder based on how he was portrayed in the first film. Then I found out they did that with Biff because Crispin Glover refused to be in the sequels, and they apparently had to scramble to come up with a new plot.

@speabody

9 ай бұрын

@@wet-read Thanks for the BTTF info. I can't believe it took me until years after I saw it to realize that wasn't Glover in Pt 2. "He looks a little different... oh well." However I can see him taking that route. He did try to rape Lorraine, he wasn't completely harmless. And it does fit with the premise of an alternate reality where everything goes to hell. Do you know what George's original fate was instead of being murdered by Biff?

I wonder if you've seen Get the Gringo w/Mel Gibson as well? I've always considered it a continuation of the Porter character, maybe a few years down the road. Check it out

This was a very well put together video! Well done! 👍

@KyleCorwith

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, dear viewer! Which version do you like most, and why?

@Victory-in-YAHUSHA

3 жыл бұрын

@@KyleCorwith The 2006 Straight Up - Director's Cut. I enjoyed it more because I liked the original vision that Helgeland was aiming for. He broke away from the traditional narrative that hollywood is known for, and went for a gritty non-traditional story about a hit/con man who wants his cut of the money back that was stolen from by a traitor, with a morbid ending that left a lot to be desired. I love the color in the DC version. Almost every scene is beautiful to look at. The new score composed specifically for the DC was very welcoming. I love the jazzy theme throughout the film. The theatrical cut is still good. It has the traditional happy ending that hollywood films at the time were known for. I can see why viewers were turned away from their favorite actor, Mel Gibson being the bad guy who did not mind throwing his wife down on the floor due to a misunderstanding. The ending in the DC leaves things left to be desired as to what the fate of Porter was. One of the reasons that I like the theatrical cut of Payback is that it unintentionally got an unoffical sequel called Get the Gringo in where Gibson narrates the film much like he does in Payback. Viewers like myself can pretend that Gibson is Porter in that film but with a different alias. 😉 All in all, I love both versions almost equally, but the DC edges it out a bit more for me. :)

@KyleCorwith

3 жыл бұрын

@@Victory-in-YAHUSHA Love those thoughts. Especially about Get The Gringo. I remember the VO, but never thought of it as a possible secret sequel. That is cool!

@Victory-in-YAHUSHA

3 жыл бұрын

@@KyleCorwith It sure is! Last thing to leave off with. About five or six years ago on this platform, I watched a scene from the workprint cut that was strangely missing in the Director's Cut that director Brian Helgeland had mentioned during the film's audio commentary. It was the scene where Porter had set a garbage truck on fire so that he could infiltrate the mob hotel. Before finding Resnick, the scene also showed Porter encountering a hood in an elevator with the next scene showing that Porter had ripped the hood's eye out. It was a poorly aged and hard to see scene that sadly no longer appears to on here as the uploader may have removed it.

@KyleCorwith

3 жыл бұрын

@@Victory-in-YAHUSHA Found it. But you're right. Visuals are almost indiscernible. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2prytOLm7XdadI.html

one of my favorite movies.

I just watched the directors cut today. It’s been at least a decade since I watched the theatrical version which I had on DVD. The theatrical cut is CLEARLY a better film!!

@tph2010

18 күн бұрын

Definitely

Always loved this movie but never knew there was 2 version of it....just wen ahead and bought the Blu-ray with both cuts so I can see them back to back myself

@KyleCorwith

7 ай бұрын

Precisely! And that’s the only way to do it. 😎👍

I found Straight Up: The Directors Cut in Sam's Club while on vacation. My brother said, "Directors cuts are always a ripoff." This is the exception. An incredible movie deserving of my Top 5 Favorites. The edginess and dialog feel far more realistic and not formulaic. If you like this version I highly recommend the book, "The Hunter," which it was based on. There is an entire series.

@hemichanga8939

4 ай бұрын

The directors cut of Reindeer Games is also an exception.

Ive always been a cinephile, when Payback was shown during the PPV years back then on the old cable box me and my friends would watch it all the time. It was such a great film. Then years later when the straight up directors cut was announced and by that time every household had internet access and hundreds of film and dvd sites were still around I was fascinated about unknown original cuts, workprints and films abandoned by its directors/writers. This film is a great example of a directors vision and studio interference. Other films that are close to this in my opinion are Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut and Zack Snyder's Justice League (Snyder Cut) on how a director's vision is their own identity.

I can’t remember seeing a single directors cut that I thought was better than the theatrical release. Sometimes less is more.

@KyleCorwith

17 күн бұрын

@@thesisypheanjournal1271 It’s a unique cinematic occurrence, indeed.

i like the directors cut better Way Better Personally

Yes I thought so too and that's why I want to know if there's part 2.... Mel Gibson needs to bring us the 2...

Dang! Why didn't this channel grow, get many more subscribers, and work out?! The content is great; properly researched, engaging, and well made with decent production, commentary, and editing. What gives? Unless the channel stopped putting out content, I don't get it.

Exelentisima actuación, quisiera volver a verla

The most brilliant action movie I ever saw in my life 70 bandos up 💪🏽

I prefer The Theatrical Cut myself

@KyleCorwith

3 жыл бұрын

More specifically, how so, more than the latter choice?

@geneyocum8633

Жыл бұрын

Same. Just watched the directors cut, and I wasn't that impressed.

you can imagine..... growing up watching the original and then wanting to see it again. the streaming services had the directors cut AND BOY was i confused.

@KyleCorwith

2 ай бұрын

The video has become part-ways a PSA to combat that confusion. 😁

@diogosabino2545

2 ай бұрын

Is the theatrical version not available on streaming??? Because I like it more...

As of today, i cant find any version of this movie in any of the streaming services, what gives?

I much prefer the director's cut to the theatrical release. The latter was a fun watch, sure, but once I saw the DC I realized how much I didn't like the narration in the TR. After having watched the Payback numerous times, the gritty, raw nature of "Payback: Straight Up" was thoroughly refreshing.

@hayley8715

Жыл бұрын

Lols, "the payback", sorry the Dress Pirate Roberts, I know you're no one to be trifled with and have kicked the Andre The Giant's ass, but that made me chuckle, like when an old person says "I got the diabetes" or something. But ignore my inconceivable silliness, you go on saying things as you wish, ba boom chich (The Princess Bride was my fav along with Willow).

@hayley8715

Жыл бұрын

Dread, not dress, stupid spell word changer!

I'm not a movie buff by any means, but I love cinema. Secondary to the film itself, I enjoy reading trivia and watching interviews of how the movie was made etc... How in the hell did I not know about another cut of PAYBACK?! What is going on? My mind is blown. I stopped this video short to not ruin the third act and I'm going to watch it immediately!

@giorgiopalmas7934

6 ай бұрын

I got the Bluray and watched the Director's Cut. I prefer the Theatrical Version. Awesome ending. Best line: "That's just mean, man!"

I bought the DVD like 10-15 years ago, put it in, and it was all different. I was very confused, looked online and figured it out; then learned that the theatrical cut was out of print. It was very hard to find, but a year or so later, I found it at a used movie/video game store. It was like finding buried treasure! I still prefer the theatrical cut(although I like both) and wish they would release a Blu-ray with both versions, or at least make the theatrical available on Blu-Ray for anyone that can't get a hold of it. I think even streaming on P+ you can only view the Director's cut. One nice thing about the directors cut, is that despite losing the bleached out, almost black & white look, it looks great! In the featurette, they explain that all the files for the film were lost, so they had to dust off the old optical printers and cutting tables and assemble it the old fashioned way using pristine negatives.

@KyleCorwith

3 жыл бұрын

Look for the UK blu-ray release. It has both cuts on it!

@histguy101

3 жыл бұрын

@@KyleCorwith Thanks!

@seanjohnson637

6 ай бұрын

Same I ordered my from the UK got them both on one disc Blu Ray

I like to be able to download both of them is there anyway to find them

@KyleCorwith

11 ай бұрын

The only way I can see you getting a hold of them is through physical media-which I highly recommend because companies are doing modern "book-burning" by taking away or altering digital copies at anytime. www.amazon.com/Payback-Theatrical-Directors-Blu-ray-Region/dp/B00E3UJJGE/ref=sr_1_1?crid=26Y2MNARN47R5&keywords=payback+theatrical&qid=1693338602&sprefix=payback+theatri%2Caps%2C262&sr=8-1

Both versions of Payback are overall pretty good, but this raises a more interesting question than which one is better. If you were to make a movie, release two versions with slight differences, and arbitrarily assigned one at random as the director's cut that represents your original vision before studio suits got a hold of it would "real movie fans" like us just accept it as superior regardless of quality?

@KyleCorwith

Ай бұрын

I can imagine that a few people might automatically feel that way because of one being the original director’s vision.

thanks for this video, payback is one of my favourite ever films but i've never seen the directors cut... infact I'm struggling to think where I could watch it... I must find out

@KyleCorwith

Күн бұрын

@@TheCurtisdavies My pleasure! Vudu and Amazon Prime have it.

i thought i was the only one that knew there as two different versions to this flick

Can you see the original cut?

It is a compact neo-noir film. I like it. I watch it once a year or once every two years, but nonetheless, I enjoy it.

I think there's only two theatrical cuts I like much more, than Director's - this one, and Donnie Darko. 😁

Where can I watch the Straight Cut version for free?

@user-ss3wb8he7h

Ай бұрын

KZread

I got a hankering to watch this movie again but couldn't remember the name of it. So I Google Mel Gibson movies. It's not even listed. So I tried Roku. Nope. So I turned to KZread. I had no idea there were two versions. I was worried the studio lost the rights to it and so it was banished from ever being seen again like Cacoon. I wonder if the 2 versions is why it's not listed? Thankfully I still have my old DVD copy. Guess I'll have to check out the director's cut here. Cool video

@KyleCorwith

Жыл бұрын

Love it!

I hate what they did!!!!😡😡😡 I was watching on Amazon and I was going crazy how it ended!! I knew I wasn’t crazy

New voice-over on Phone whimpy comical.

Don’t understand why this movie isn’t streaming.

Watched DC version yesterday. And it has to be the only movie I know, that I prefer the original 1999. The DC version, just felt left open, most was not explained. Was the woman at the train station the same as the one on the phone? And many of the Outfit members, were just forgoteen about. Even though they pursued Porter.

Just watched theatrical It’s FLAWLESS

@wet-read

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think that?

I preferred the reshoots, but then I watched the second version first (only one i knew existed). I think it works better.

@KyleCorwith

19 сағат бұрын

@@skipper4126 Was this recently? What do you think works better about it?

The strange thing is that Payback is based on a serious of novels abd they took a book from a middle of the series. Jason Statham was in a movie with playing a sane character btw.

This movie reminds me alot of Max Payne

In uk we always get theatrical

The Director’s Cut is the superior cut of the movie for me.

@KyleCorwith

13 күн бұрын

@@KyleShold74 I’m curious: what about it specifically edges out the theatrical cut for you?

@KyleShold74

12 күн бұрын

@@KyleCorwith I’ve seen the Theatrical Cut a few times since it first opened. It’s good; nothing inherently wrong with it and still very enjoyable. But when I saw the Director’s Cut I was floored. Dark and uncompromising in its moral ambiguity. It wasn’t interested in making Porter likable or even relatable and I like that. Watching the TC after the DC all the studio/focus group cuts and additions to make the film more general audience friendly stick out like a sore thumb. The added narration, making sure the dog is shown alive, the kidnapping subplot, explosive climax, etc, all add a shiny “fun” veneer to an otherwise grimy picture. Much like ‘The Killers’ (‘66) or ‘Point Blank’ (‘67) or ‘This Gun For Hire’ (‘42) or ‘Blood Simple’ (‘84) the DC isn’t interested in a big commercial happy ending. Helgeland spins his old-school narrative populated with rotten characters with an economy of brutal purpose. As much as I love ‘L.A. Confidential’ (‘97) it ends on an upbeat note that never seemed to fit. The Director’s Cut of ‘Payback’ doesn’t compromise like that. I appreciate that artistic purity and for that it’s the only version of the film I own on Blu-ray.

hm, theres something missing here... once they made the test screening , there have been various workprints around... the theatrical version was trash, it was ok but lacking alot of sense....there is a workprint with the "theatrical" filter and more scenes too .. there must be at least 4-5 different workprints around, and i have seen 2 that are not mentioned here but are known. Only thing i never heard of or have seen back then was a "directors cut" without the blue filter... theres one workprint with the blue filter and porter dying but winning. I think Helgeland himself should explain in detail what happened and what was the real idea without studio politics. I think the real version is the first workprint.

I saw the directers cut and was like WTF? Thats not payback.

Is the Directors cut the one where the top boss was a woman? Or was that yet another version.

@histguy101

3 жыл бұрын

Yes directors cut has the woman

Mel Gibson resembles Max Payne from the 2nd game.

@KyleCorwith

Жыл бұрын

Or rather, Max resembles him! 😉

Theatrical cut

It's also a remake

Did we even hear from Paul Abascal?

@mobiz711

3 жыл бұрын

@@KyleCorwith Most definitely. I'd like to hear from him personally on some of the things you mentioned. Not taking the credit for instance. I would also like to hear about what it was like to pick up someone's work midstream, how his vision differed from Hegeland's. Anyway, interesting video, just seemed like a missed opportunity. Did you not record your interview with him?

@KyleCorwith

3 жыл бұрын

@@mobiz711 We spoke over the phone intending on setting the record straight on who actually did the reshoots. But maybe a full interview as a separate video could happen.

@KyleCorwith

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, he recently declined being in a video about Payback. However, he has his own projects in the oven, so there may be a chance to talk about those when they come out!

I prefer the theatrical cut, although I could do without the voiceover

I much prefer Kris Kristofferson playing Bronson over the female villain in the Directors Cut. I feel like it was one of his better performances. I also liked Porter outsmarting them all to get what's his at the end over the alternate ending

@ognjenjasic611

10 ай бұрын

have to agree,two main reasons why theatrical cut is way better for me...Adds way more coolness to the movie.

Instead of having two versions of the story, Why not mix them both up in one movie?

I like the Director's Cut. I like that it's not a comedy, I like the washed out and gritty look, I prefer Porter's character to be as scummy and as bad as his adversaries, and I like that it's not trying to be clever. I think the story is way better without answering questions and bringing us along from Porter's perspective, rather than telling us a grand story of an organization of criminals that the Theatrical tries to tell. It's a gritty noir, and the Director Cut is exactly that, but the theatrical has way more charm. The Director's Cut is a scummier story of blind revenge, and that's way more entertaining to watch, in my opinion.

I love this movie, but absolutely hate the directors cut. I’ve watched the theatrical version many times. As for the directors cut only watched once and had a hard time watching it even that time.

@KyleCorwith

2 жыл бұрын

What works for you the most and what doesn’t?

@wet-read

Жыл бұрын

Why? It is better.

Let me say this Mel Gibson would have been the perfect actor to play max payne(video game) when you look at this movie

@KyleCorwith

10 күн бұрын

@@MrAudi220 I can see that.

I watched them back to back and i loved the directors cut but the theatrical just feels off, the first half is a dark movie pretending to be light hearted and it doesn't work, the ending works a little better since its original but it doesn't make up for the awkwardness of the first half

@KyleCorwith

2 ай бұрын

I understand what you mean. The DC is a consistent vision, while the TC has variance and zags, and the changes become more noticeable when you’re aware of the BTS backstory.

@user-ss3wb8he7h

2 ай бұрын

​@@KyleCorwithalso i think there was a mistake in your video You said the real budget was 20 million but that was said by the reshoot director and i heard that the film got 20 to 30 million for reshoots so maybe the 20 million was just for reshoots and not the whole production

When Men, were Men.

@KyleCorwith

Ай бұрын

Pretty much.

The Original was much better The studio reshoot cut is pathetic in comparison

I never watched theatrical cut (it could be better indeed), because all I care about any movie is the director's original vision, and studio meddling doesn't interest me.

@KyleCorwith

Ай бұрын

I recommend that it’s worth it because of the different watching experience.

@Zed-fq3lj

Ай бұрын

With this particular movie I agree on that, because of Gibson's remark that both versions are good and have worth, but generally 90% of director's cuts are far better. @@KyleCorwith

In my opinion the director's cut is better, no question.

Swapping out a never-seen woman's voice who sounds like Joan Rivers for the excellent Kris Khristopherson role was a terrible move.

@roderickstockdale1678

Жыл бұрын

Sally Kellerman of MASH fame, and they had to bring her in when they put this version back together because the original audio was lost when they dropped the original version. Angie Dickinson was the original voice.

@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

Жыл бұрын

@@roderickstockdale1678 *"Angie Dickinson was the original voice."* ... I was a big Angie fan back when she was "Police Woman." She was an integral part of my movement through adolescence. Still, this entire scene pales in comparison to the Khris Khristopherson scene.

@speabody

9 ай бұрын

I can understand the woman angle but Kristofferson is not remotely threatening as an antagonist. I like the idea of a disembodied voice we never see. The same way "I don't even get out of bed for 130k" it makes sense that the movie doesn't show the big bad for 130k, or 70, as it were.

@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

9 ай бұрын

@@speabody *"Kristofferson is not remotely threatening as an antagonist." ... Neither was Fairfax with his suits or Carter with his lip balm, ... but their personas still worked for the movie. Even so, the "Joan Rivers" sounding mob boss was a terrible alternative.

The theatrical version is way better

And then you have Point Blank, the original movie

@KyleCorwith

2 жыл бұрын

And then you have the actual original… the book, The Hunter. Dude, both movies are based separately on that novel.

I prefer the theatrical version better anyway.

I don't like how they went from overly blue to overly yellow, that's cheesy! art is more subtle than that!

@KyleCorwith

2 ай бұрын

I think both are vivid on opposite side of the visual spectrum. How do you mean by what you say about art?

@Niberspace

2 ай бұрын

@@KyleCorwith that you can do subtle color grading, like Joker where every post process color choice is pure bliss. Whereas this lazy and extreme "let's make everything yellow or blue" is just plain lazy and boring

Very disappointed with this and I am here for answers!

Didn't enjoy the director's cut. Think the theatrical version was far superior.

The directors cut is NOTHING compared to the theatrical version. It was a BIG disappointment IMO. The music, lighter color scheme and removal of the intro and narrative really bummed me out. Theatrical version is the BETTER one IMO.

@histguy101

3 жыл бұрын

I like both versions, but prefer theatrical. It's like a Chicago pulp fiction

@DreddPirateRoberts

2 жыл бұрын

I respectfully disagree. I like the dark and gritty director's cut. I didn't like the light-hearted tone of the theatrical release.

@Me97202

Жыл бұрын

Mels narration throughout is one of my favorite things about this movie.

@thing1thing2themediamaniac43

Жыл бұрын

I agree in my opinion there's only one PAYBACK and it's The Theatrical Cut That's not to say that PAYBACK STRAIGHTUP isn't a terrific film on it's own merits. I kind of like the idea of a mysterious female Bronson that's just an equally seductive yet terrifying voice on the telephone. But overall I prefer The Theatrical Cut. I ❤️ The Blue Metallic Filter I love the narration that Porter gives. I love when he blows up the mobsters inside their 🚗 while they're trying to blow him up with a ☎️ 💣 and than he uses said ☎️ 💣 to blowup Bronson at the end. I also think the opening scene with The Crime Dr is AWESOME. If PAYBACK STRAIGHTUP were the only version than it would be PRETTY DAMN GOOD But in my opinion The Theatrical is BETTER.

@thing1thing2themediamaniac43

Жыл бұрын

@@DreddPirateRoberts Lighthearter Porter loses two toes FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!!!!!!

Directors cut sucked, i expected it to be better but was dissapointed.

@hydra8845

Ай бұрын

It was closer to the book so I appreciated it

way too much bass

@KyleCorwith

Жыл бұрын

It's a "bassy" song!😆

Why the hell is everyone saying the theatrical cut is better? It has a lame ending and that blue color filter sucks. The theatrical cut is a lame ass Hollywood ending. I thought people liked ambiguous endings that are darker, not this lame crap

Preferred the director’s cut. Much more alike tonally to Lee Marvin’s original version.

Point Blank was better

That is just a remake of Boorman's Point Blank with a happy ending or a less ambiguous ending, isn't it? What happened to original stories of at least admitting to a remake? I guess when kids have never heard of Pink Floyd you can get away with this kind of con. When Oppenheimer gets an Oscar then IMAX or not Cinema is dead. Nolan is just beating on a dead horse with a con of 1570 format that was hardly even there.. Give it up and let it rest in peace for God's sake.

The director's cut absolutely failed! Totally sucked!

The director‘s cut was better.

@ally11488

Жыл бұрын

Just watched it and disagree.

@speabody

9 ай бұрын

One of the few sane ones lol

The 'Director's cut' sucks

Wtf there are two versions? Nothing can be done to the original that would make it better so ill just stick with that one, perfect dark thriller.

The original version is too stylized for my taste. The deep blue is definitely a 90s thing. That was going on in films at the tail end of the 90s. The new version is a much more complex noir.

@speabody

9 ай бұрын

You describe why I think The Matrix is overrated af. Talk about too stylized, you got sunglasses, long trenchcoats, slow motion, expressionless dialogue, all with a blue filter on top. Trenchcoats, leather, sunglasses, and blue filters, it all screams "we're, like, so KOOL." This is not old age revisionism either, I was in my early 20s when I saw it and came to this conclusion. Similarly Porter in the theatrical is portrayed as cool, very intentionally so.

Real bad director's cut in this movie, lol. Strange, but facts. Theatrical version is a nearly-perfect noir.