I find it odd that Paul reads celebrity gossip magazines but won’t let Morgan listen to pop music.

@madeleinewitt9901

10 ай бұрын

WHAT

@00Rav3n00

10 ай бұрын

I find it uncomfortable and wrong that Paul dictates what Morgan can and can't do. I understand it in the context of relationship boundaries, but if Morgan wants to listen to Lady Gaga, she should because it's her life.

@johnbaustian5180

10 ай бұрын

I would speculate that he calls it "Research. "

@JulieAVL

10 ай бұрын

@@johnbaustian5180. Haha! True-well, he doesn’t bother to learn the context of his pick a line bible instruction, so we can’t much, can we!

@nikkio.9990

10 ай бұрын

He is good at the mental gymnastics. He'll probably go pro.

The sound of Paul kissing Morgan on the cheek after saying “I forgive you” literally sent a chill down my spine 🫣🤢

@gsnaponfire

10 ай бұрын

The feelings of cringe every time I hear them astounds me.

@LimitlessMegan

9 ай бұрын

Sometimes I think about the people who are genuine fans of them and see them as marriage role models. And I feel so *Sad* for people who think this is what a good marriage/ relationship looks like.

@lin-dundunduunnn

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@LimitlessMeganThat emoji you used is so accurate to how I look and feel when I hear anything this couple say. Hahaha

@therealz360z7

6 ай бұрын

Those two are pathetic any man that thinks you should apologize for not being a virgin has issues .

@amydost

5 ай бұрын

And the way she eventually pushed him away!

It’s very worrisome how often Paul and Morgan talk about how horrible their first two years of marriage were. That’s usually “the honeymoon period.” It always makes me sad when some couples talk about how difficult their marriage is and how they have to constantly work hard at it. In my opinion, marriage shouldn’t be a daily struggle to work through. Sure sometimes couples can go through a rough patch, but the whole first two years? Yikes. It makes me sad for them or anyone in that position

@targaghjj

10 ай бұрын

And they are so generic about it. What were the problems? How and why did it change? It's like they say this not to help people but pretend they have street cred.

@gigi2k326

10 ай бұрын

Right! My marriage is & always has been my safe place. 23 years next month. 😊

@simplycarla08

10 ай бұрын

I wonder, and this is pure speculation, if the first two years were difficult for them because they had never lived together? And unfortunately, some versions of Christianity can promise a blissful and perfect marriage and sex life as a "reward" for having done things "the right way," you know, saving sex for marriage, not living together until married, etc. Again, just my thoughts.

@MsSPrescott1

10 ай бұрын

@simplycara08 that definitely makes sense! Moving in together is immensely stressful, even in good and healthy relationships. You’re learning each others routines, quirks you haven’t experienced before, and seeing different sides of them you hadn’t before. I’m firmly of the belief that cohabiting before marriage is very beneficial to healthy long-term relationships.

@iskarmareal

10 ай бұрын

I slightly disagree with this take just cuz of my personal experience. My husband and I got married young. Both 21. Our first 2-3 years were SO bad just cuz we had NO business being married that young. I wanted a divorce so bad but we stuck it out. We are 30 now and have an amazing relationship. I think it’s fine if for some people it’s a daily struggle. It’s a daily struggle for a few years when people have young kids too. It’s just growing seasons. It might be bad for years on end and then good for years on end. It will never be consistent. Not in my opinion.

Bonkers to me when people shame divorcees. When I divorced, I was strongly against it and fighting for my marriage. I didn’t want my husband to leave me. I didn’t believe in giving up. I didn’t know what was going on. It felt like insult upon injury when my husband left me and then people would say things to me like “too bad you guys couldn’t figure it out”, or “how do you think God feels about divorce”. Like B**ch, I didn’t want this. I didn’t choose this. You can’t hold another adult hostage and make them stay. It’s been seven years and it took less than one year to realize how lucky I was to escape narcissistic abuse and be safe now. I dodged a bullet by him cheating and ultimately leaving.

As a child of divorced parents, I am glad my parents divorced because the fights and arguments were too much for me and my sister.

@vxlenciix

8 ай бұрын

I couldn’t agree more. I can’t even begin to imagine what life would’ve been like for my brothers and I had my parents stayed married. Sometimes, divorce is absolutely for the best!

@DimaRakesah

6 ай бұрын

Same. My father became an alcoholic after marriage and my fundy mother clung to it for over a decade before finally divorcing. I have no doubt she stayed around that long because she believed god didn't want her to divorce. I still carry trauma from my father's alcoholism even though he wasn't physically abusive. Divorce brought much needed stability for my sister and I. It makes me so angry when people say divorce is "bad for the children" because it's an extremely short sighted take. Being in a home with abuse and parents who constantly fight is the real harm to children. Divorce is simply a marker for problems within the family, which will negatively impact children, not the cause of them.

@FreeChristopherDunn

3 ай бұрын

That has to be awful to go through as a child. My parents were dysfunctional and bad at parenting, but they didn't fight in front of us. The couple times that they did I felt so twisted up inside. Parents fighting must give young kids a sense of instability at the very least.

I am not a Christian and it shocked the s*** out of me when a friend said she wouldn't leave her husband who had pulled a gun on her because "God hates divorce." I have to believe God would prefer she's divorced and alive than the alternative. 😥 I recently found you @B Haney, and I'm loving your content!

@Doridoesthings

10 ай бұрын

Yes. God does not condone abuse. He hates abuse more than divorce.

@faithstephen8752

10 ай бұрын

Oh for sureeeeee👏🏿

@AChickandaDuck

10 ай бұрын

That’s awful. 😞

@daneesledge1626

10 ай бұрын

And to make it worse the Bible never says God hates divorce. King James changed it from the man who divorced his wife, or the man who uses his power over to harm someone, hates God. Divorce is never even named as a sin. In fact, it was a gift given by God to protect women in a system where they had no agency.

@lindseystein9676

9 ай бұрын

@daneesledge1626 Yes king James made numerous changes to the Bible to fit his own beliefs. And he’s not the only person to edit and make changes, either. Not to mention the mistranslations over the years. One of the worst in my opinion is the “men laying with other men” part. Originally it was referring to men & boys.

B, Paul has said abuse isn't an excuse for divorce before (I wish I remembered which video) and to me that was one of the most appalling things he's ever said. Thank you for calling that out, because I never see anyone else bringing it up. Paul is completely out of his depth trying to give advice about abuse. Its infuriating.

@kel5ey

10 ай бұрын

in the live chat of this video people in the chat and Paul/Morgan were all saying that the ONLY way to divorce is adultery. they said any other excuse is just an excuse and they can separate but not divorce

@TamedWildFierceRainbow

10 ай бұрын

My mom didn’t divorce my dad until I was 17 (20 years of marriage) bc her Catholic religion discouraged it. I wonder how much sexual and physical abuse I would have been spared from if that never factored in.

@we.wont.go.back.578

10 ай бұрын

Paul is probably ab*sing morgan of course he's not going to say it's a reason to leave.

@rowanquynn9964

9 ай бұрын

​@we.wont.go.back.578 that's what I've noticed. Men who are against divorce even in cases of abuse are usually telling on themselves

@we.wont.go.back.578

9 ай бұрын

@@rowanquynn9964 I just hope her family is seeing these videos and trying to talk to her.

Everything about Paul and Morgan--everything from the arguments they have to the topics they choose--screams "we want to divorce, but can't."

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

💯

@raven_moonshine39

10 ай бұрын

"If we can't get a divorce, you can't either" 🙄

@Ashley_jd

8 ай бұрын

😂 EXACTLY HOW I FEEL! omg these people seem to not like each other at all! I think Paul would be more likely to want to stay because even though Morgan seems to push back more and more, she’s still very much in the ultra submission culture and it’d be hard for Paul to find someone willing to live with him. He just gives off such bad vibes! Have they ever had normal jobs though? I don’t know if they have a plan b to this - I feel kind of weird feeling like we’re watching a marriage fall apart though I don’t think it was healthy from the beginning. But they’re putting it all out there - I just feel bad for their kid - that may be a pretty tense house to grow up in.

You're so kind giving Morgan the benefit of the doubt on her name pronunciations. To me, Morgan mispronouncing names is intentional and comes off as her mocking and diminishing the other party.

@00Rav3n00

10 ай бұрын

It was very clearly intentional, in my opinion.

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

I think she thinks she's coming off as quirky and endearing but it comes off very rude.. As if her time is more important than to take 3 sec to look it up and give someone the dignity of saying their name correctly.

@butterbeanqueen8148

9 ай бұрын

Morgan is the quintessential “pick me” girl.

I'm an atheist (left the faith after 20 years as an evangelical Christian) and I really appreciate your nuanced and reasonable takes on things, B. It's refreshing to hear from someone who is strong in their faith but is still empathetic and respectful of other religions and the non-religious. I really enjoy your videos!

@mikusheadphones

10 ай бұрын

Same! I'm culturally Jewish with my partner but was raised mormon that cause IMMENSE system abuse and C-PTSD but B's videos make me feel comfier. I watch a lot of "fundie snark" type content but I love the way that B also explains that she is holding her beliefs but doesn't expect others to hold them and understands freedom of religion also mean freedom FROM religion. She's got a great head on her shoulders :)

@helenr4300

10 ай бұрын

There are lots of us out here. Sadly the ones who think that they and they only are right tend to be loud about it. Also they have flourished and more numerous in the America that Paul and Morgan claim is so anti Christian. I would agree with there being dangerous movements in US perverting Jesus's teachings, but I am looking at those that claim the faith but live out bigotry and 'our way only'

@meghanworkman6449

10 ай бұрын

@@helenr4300 then I plead with you and others who think like you to be even louder than they are about it. Good people not speaking up is ruining this country and turning it into a theocracy.

@helenr4300

10 ай бұрын

@@meghanworkman6449 I try to in my own context in UK. And in online comments

@Elit3Energy

8 ай бұрын

You and I are either saved or we're not.. The majority of christians believe faith plus works saves them. Most churches preach a works based gospel. The irony of that is only few find eternal life according to the bible... And only few believe in faith alone in Jesus christ for salavation. It's the minority viewpoint.

Oh, the look in Paul’s eye when Morgan goes on about how being led by an imperfect man is no picnic. I think she is really independent and would like to be free from their imperfect interpretation of the Bible without context

As a divorced woman under 30, I 100% agree that sometimes divorce is the answer. Better yet, not getting married so early would be the better option. In the case of Sophie and Joe... Joe has been exhibiting narcissistic tactics throughout this entire divorce process. So I wouldn't blame her for leaving if that is an indication of the marriage. Special brand of abuse 😖. Christ doesn't actually want us to suffer. Divorce is not a sin.

@dariasmeh

10 ай бұрын

I can't diagnose anyone as narcissistic, but I do think he exhibits manipulative tendencies and also controlling behaviour, which is terrible in and of itself, and in line with abusive behaviour, and without needing a narcissistic diagnosis. I find it weird and more so very apparently selfish that she would want to live back in England after living in the US for 5-6 years with him and he won't move there to reciprocate their relationship. When you are married you should enable your spouse's dreams and mental health if they want to move back to where they are from. You can't expect to only have them stay where you are from - that is selfish to your own dreams and mental health and also manipulative to lock them in/up to where you are. Also it's England, like not a hard move, buddy. It's America Original. I moved from Canada to England and ya there was a transition but not that much. It was up to me to open my own heart and mind and not keep it locked in. We have a choice to allow ourselves to grow. The last thing you want to do is make a choice at 30 and then be making the same choice at 35, 40, 45, 50. You should have different preferences as you age and not get too manipulated into your own identity. I send you love and abundance for your profound change and being a creator for your life that means you thrive and live in joy....rather than staying stuck in someone else's destructiveness.

@angelawossname

10 ай бұрын

We have to remember who Jesus was actually talking to when he criticised divorce. The men he was talking to were treating marriage like prostitution, they would marry a young girl, get a few children from her, then tire of her and divorce her, leaving her in poverty and separating her from her children. Of course this is wrong. It would still be wrong today. It is always important to remember why something was written, when it was written, where it was written, who it was written for and who it was written by. Context is everything. Jesus would never condemn someone leaving an unhappy marriage if both parties would be better off apart. He certainly wouldn't condemn someone escaping an abusive marriage.

@rivendells_shona

10 ай бұрын

@@angelawossname YES! And the same was true when God addressed Israel through Malachi (which is what Jesus was referring back to). All God’s “I hate divorce” comments were addressed to men within circumstances that men held absolute power over divorce and women had zero power (for divorce) and very little autonomy for any other decision. Yet modern readers often take God’s explicitly holding men to accountability and turn it into a tool to further subjugate women (and the areligious then use it as “evidence” to suggest the God of Israel was without compassion for victims). The whole misuse of Scripture is just asinine.

@themedia1271

10 ай бұрын

​@dariasmeh isn't he also hiding the kids' passports from Sophie so she can't take them back to England?

@trustmaker1014

10 ай бұрын

@themedia1271 Yeah, that's one of the things he's doing.

I love how Porgan, who’ve been married for four seconds wants to give marriage advice to Huge Jackman who was married for 30 years. 🙄

@CandVocaloiziiPlang1

15 сағат бұрын

Porgan’ve been married for some 10+ years

Paul and Morgan, Girl Defined, all these conservative Christian/Fundie influencers make marriage look and sound awful. Arguments on camera, rigid rules, and saying again and again how "challenging" and "difficult" marriage is. If you're going to say that the way you define marriage is the only way to do it successfully and in a pleasing way to God, maybe don't make it sounds so dang miserable? I'm agnostic at best these days, but I've been happy with my husband for 8 years, didn't/don't follow any of these rules, and marriage has never been difficult or unhappy. Sorry, but I'll take my happy marriage without your rules over whatever you guys are doing, because it looks miserable.

@powderandpaint14

10 ай бұрын

Yes, they are the worst advert for marriage ever!

@hailyjohnson407

9 ай бұрын

I agree. I think part of the problem is the rapid marriages in fundamental circles. My boyfriend and I were best friends for 3 years before we started dating, we were together for 3 years before moving in together, and now we've been together for almost 6 years (anniversary is right around Thankgiving) and lived together for 3 years as well. It's not that we've never had struggles, but we had time to really know each other and work through any issues that come with being young and learning how to be in a long term committed relationship, and how to live with a partner. I can't imagine the hell it would have created if we met and were married in less than a year or two. We've never had any major fights after nearly 6 years, but we had a lot to learn about how to communicate and plan life with another person. We started dating as seniors in high school, and had never had a relationship longer than a few months before that. There were definitely growing pains along the way, but we had time to sort through it instead of just having crazy mounting pressures of dealing with everything all at once. We plan to get married in the next few years once we have stable jobs and are ready for a house and kids. Even as a Christian, I still recommend all my friends to live with their partner for at least a year before they decide to get married, because it's a huge change, and you should know if your relationship can handle the strain of working things out and communicating while living together before you legally entangle yourself. Even if you love them, you might find you aren't compatible.

@IrishGoodbyes

5 ай бұрын

normalising marriage being miserable is how the church keeps people in it.

It's harmful to tell Christians if their spouse mistreats or abuses them, they aren't praying enough or it's their faith that is lacking. Typically this is told to wives and it makes me really said. You aren't responsible for how your husband behaves. He's a grown man who should be accountable for his own actions. If a marriage brings more harm than good, it's not a biblical marriage.

@olirikable

10 ай бұрын

It's one of the major reasons I can't be Catholic anymore. And I don't have another church to join. "Carrying one's Cross" is a huge thing and I could never accept it. Being punched by your husband with no complaint is no way to praise God :(

@allthestarsthatshine

10 ай бұрын

@olirikable I'm so sorry that happened to you. It's not your fault. The God I know is one of love. He doesn't want you to live a life of abuse. It's people who twist things or become too legalistic that are the problem. Religious people forget that God is still speaking to us and intimately knows our hearts and situations.

@helenr4300

10 ай бұрын

'if a marriage brings more harm than good, it's not a Biblical marriage' Spot on, the most succinct summary that says all that needs to be @allthestarsthat shine.

@allthestarsthatshine

10 ай бұрын

@helenr4300 thank you. Unfortunately, this is through my own experience with divorce, but I want to share what I learned with people who are going through similar things and feeling lost.

@hanatemonstas4485

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comments. Your critique is spot on. To add, even if the wife decides to stay because “they believe its right”, their kids are still witnessing everything their parents are going through. Its going to be the cause of so much harmful ideas and hurt in the future. I’m not vicitim blaming the spouse since societal pressure but with people like Paul & Morgan, they forget the whole Matthews 18:6.

As a child of divorce I can honestly say that in a lot of situations divorce is SO much better for everyone involved than staying married. Maybe I’m just a filthy non-believer but I would take my parents’ messy divorce all over again than have to see two people who hate each other stay together. And it makes me so sad that Paul and Morgan have a difficult marriage. I know they say their first few years were tough, but it is clear that they are STILL having issues after, what, seven years?? The first few years are supposed to be the happiest years, that’s why its called the honeymoon phase. And it is SO funny that they have the nerve to comment on someone else’s marriage. My win for the week was having sushi with a friend!

@marshmallow4646

10 ай бұрын

I think if your kid is a toddler or baby don't even think about staying together just for them, I'm glad my parents divorced before I could remember them being together

@hailyjohnson407

9 ай бұрын

I agree. My parents divorced when I was 10 and I'm glad, and I wish honestly that they had divorced sooner so that I could have skipped some of the stress from living in a home with two people who were clearly not compatible and barely tolerated each other's existence.

I just wanted to say that I adore that you do “Win of the week” before you start your video. I think sometimes we as people forget that we’re all just humans on the internet. We all have our own struggles and lives that we live. It really makes me happy to hear how other people are growing and thriving! That being said my win for this week is I made a really yummy dinner for my family last night! My family is full of picky eaters so that fact that everyone liked what I made really filled me with joy!

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

What did you make?! 🤤

@BHaney

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! I love that you enjoy win for the week and hearing the positive things going on in other peoples’ lives as much as I do😊 And that is a definite win!! It feels so good to make something that you know other people are enjoying.

Remember when they played that couples game and Paul brought up divorce and made Morgan cry? Dude's entire vibe is just future family annihilator.

My win is I’ve been getting to bed earlier and waking up earlier! Makes me feel SO good all day 😊

@BHaney

10 ай бұрын

That’s awesome! I feel like a good sleep schedule can make such a big difference in your days.

@juliegerasimenko200

10 ай бұрын

@@BHaney yes! And also I just found your channel and am now BINGE watching all your videos. 😍

According to a study I just Googled, Portugal has the highest divorce rate in the world, 92%. India is the lowest with 1%. The US ranks #19 with 45%

@BHaney

10 ай бұрын

Interesting how they didn’t take the time to look that up before criticizing divorce in the US lol

Its so weird to hear her be like "Yes marriage sucks ass buttt God is powerful enough to get you to be grateful for the misery." I've been with my husband for 11 years married for 5 and I never lament about how hard my marriage is because the marriage is the best part of my life, yes the kid, the in laws, the bills ect is hard but I love being married and as a pastors kid now who grew up being told how marriage is worthless without God and how God is the only way to a successful marriage I'm realizing people don't like the people their married to and instead of being like "You know what we were young maybe marriage shouldn't have been something we did." Its like "To be clear I hate being married but God blessed me with this marriage to learn how to rely on him no matter what." Like eeewwwww But purity culture teaches them married and miserable is better than happy and hellbound and I truly hate that for young people.

@jasnnialewis536

10 ай бұрын

Pastor kid now atheist *

Morgan: "Marriage means you LAY DOWN YOUR LIFE every day for your partner, PEOPLE" Also Morgan: "Why CAN'T you grow as an individual when you're married? You can!" Newsflash for Morgan - dead things don't grow. Those statements are extremely contradictory. Also, in nearly every video these two have talked about how shitty their first several years together were. But in this one Morgan proudly proclaims "4 years is NOTHIN". Ma'am. By your accounts, it sounds like your own marriage almost didn't make it to four years. The audacity 🙄 And Paul's little jab at High Jackman - "he calls himself a Christian I guess" - is so ignorant and rude. As if Christians who are married for decades don't also get divorces. He would be apparently *shocked* by talking to some of the adults that were leaders of my evangelical church growing up. Their relationships were every bit as messy as the non Christians that these two love to punch down on. Their channel and hot takes are nothing but endless hypocrisy and bullying. It's exhausting!

@e_aa518

9 ай бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@hanatemonstas4485

9 ай бұрын

They also talked about in their women’s ministry’s video how much wives and mothers should deprioritize and humble themselves to serve their husband and kids. And ONLY if they have some spare time afterwards they can spend time on themselves or take on other callings. And now, they have the audacity to say 51:59? THAT IS YOUR FAULT.

@ashleyhall6098

9 ай бұрын

Morgan and Paul won't last nearly as long as Hugh and Deborrah did in their marriage. Those two at least seemed to like each other and Porgan can't stand one another.

What I have started to wake up to is how this rigidness plays out in evangelical circles. We have very limited physical contact we're "allowed" before it's sinning, we're encouraged to wait for the man (but also get married early), have a quick courtship, be expected to marry and have babies and have a wonderful marriage and sex life (but without any education or context), but also told how hard marriage is and offered terrible marriage books, and then when men don't have to grow up (because complementarianism can breed emotional immaturity) and the women are left in this impossible marriage, we are told it's a sin to leave. It's all a big trap.

What bothers me the most about this Paul & Morgan video is how Paul and Morgan don't seem to understand that Divorce can happen for so many reasons. Like you said we don't know what happens within these couples prior to divorce, but there could have been so many reasons for divorce. Abuse or affairs being the most known reasons for divorce; Paul and Morgan are push such harmful rhetoric without realizing it because they don't seem to realize that bad things are happening to people.

Wow. They had even worse takes than I thought they would about divorce. The truly horrific lack of empathy, understanding, and decency that they display is such a disgrace to the God they profess to worship. I’m glad you pushing back and actually giving real, thoughtful, biblical takes.

Chris Pratt is divorced, as well as virtually abandoned his ex wife and disabled son. You're a little late, Paul.

My win for the week: my daughter got admitted to both colleges she applied to! 🎉

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

Hell yeah! Here comes an educated queen! 🙌

@hailyjohnson407

9 ай бұрын

Congrats to her!

@marizess3841

8 ай бұрын

Congratulations! 🎇 Wish all good to your family!

@bmiller7419

5 ай бұрын

That’s amazing! Congrats to her! Hope her studies go well and she gets her dream job when she graduates!

My win for the week is that I’m seeing the Jonas Brothers in concert tomorrow! Gonna let my inner 11 year old go absolutely feral lol

@abbysc417

10 ай бұрын

Oh god that’s ironic given the topic of the video haha

@BHaney

10 ай бұрын

😂 the timing is spot on. Have so much fun!!

Their advice is so dangerous. Especially when morgan says that if your spouse is “the worst” it’s still your responsibility to invite god into the marriage and change the other spouses heart. That’s a recipe for victims to blame themselves and for abusers to receive undeserved second third and tenth chances. The fact that Paul and Morgan refuse to acknowledge abusive relationships or caveat any of their statements is super dangerous to all their audience who aren’t in a loving safe marriage.

@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you

9 ай бұрын

I've watched it happen - christian couple where the hysband misrepresented himself and turned out to have a serious substance abuse problem, serial cheating, and emotional abuser....and my friend worked so had to fix him. Even aftwr they divorced, she believed it was her fault for not submitting more. Horrifying and a direct result of how she was raised in a similar religious system.

My win for the week is my husband and I celebrated 3 years of marriage on the 26th! :)

@marleneflanagan7137

10 ай бұрын

congrats!

@BHaney

10 ай бұрын

Happy anniversary! 🎉🙌🏻

“I hope Chris Pratt sticks to his marriage!” Uhhh does Paul not know he basically abandoned his first wife and child?

I swear every video I see from them they’re like “we don’t expect non-believers to act like believers… but I can’t believe these non-Christians aren’t following the Bible!” Please make it make sense

Here’s the thing they seem to dismiss out of hand or not fully recognize - people who get married before their own identity or life goals are fully developed will grow and change through the following years. Someone who is already well established can make an educated decision about the person they are marrying and determine whether future growth is likely to take them apart or not. Someone who is not may actually discover in 10 years that their spouse is a completely different person. People are committed when they marry - to the person they are with at that time. It’s important to explore your own identity and experience life before marriage and be in a stable place yourself emotionally when you get married. If you’re looking at a stranger in 10 years and that is not a person you can remain committed to, then yes, I believe a “lack of commitment” is a reason for a large number of divorces. But putting it in these very voluntary terms is not reality and lacks any level of nuance about human development.

I truly worry about these two and their relationship. They argue so often and talk about how difficult marriage is. I don't know if its their age/maturity or their rushing into marriage in order to have sex, but it makes me cringe so much. Ive been married to my hubby for 22 years now, and we have never had a contentious phase. Marriage is work, but it shouldn't be full of fights and passive aggressive comments. Of course I know I am very blessed, though. Di you think they are so mean to each othet because they can be? I mean if divorce is not on the table, and aren't choosing each other everyday, you'd know they can never leave.

@Samantha-dv4je

10 ай бұрын

Honestly, I think they are so mean to each other because they’re both so mentally and emotionally under developed and have no idea who they are, they just do what they’re told the Bible says they’re supposed to do. But Morgan specifically is interesting to watch. She thinks she is all in on this “fundamentalist Jesus” thing but she isn’t very good at complete submission, and Paul expects it, but she clearly doesn’t respect him (I wouldn’t either). So there’s this contentiousness there between them at all time. The whole thing is WILD

@phantomvampyressshadowkiss4690

10 ай бұрын

​@@Samantha-dv4jeexactly

@hanatemonstas4485

9 ай бұрын

May I ask how long you dated for before marrying? I know no number will be perfect for everyone but I’m struggling with family and societal pressures to marry sooner rather than later. I get told people dont need more than a year, maxium two. But knowing myself, my worries feel like I will end up like P&M where I get blind sighted by the honeymoon phase and reach through similar contentions as them.

@phantomvampyressshadowkiss4690

9 ай бұрын

@@hanatemonstas4485 well I think you should not listen to pressure . Deserve to be happy

@sk22-12

9 ай бұрын

I've been in a relationship for 13 years now with my partner and we did have a phase where we were fighting a lot and I contemplated the idea of leaving him... Yet it never was like those two. There are things that are so strange to me too, like the time they said they insist in having sex when they are angry at each other and how difficult it is (why not take the time to process your emotions, then, I wonder), or yhe way Paul resent Morgan for having a past and still making references (haven't they been married for like 5 years now..?)...

I'm twice divorced. My first ex was lying to me about money thinking that she would make it big in an MLM. I gave her a 6 month ultimatum and she still refused to get a job. My second ex chose someone else and expected me to stay with her while she dates this other woman. I had to have enough self respect to walk away after giving her so many chances. I couldn't model healthy relationships to our child with someone who had so little respect for me.

@helenr4300

10 ай бұрын

Mlms get so cult like, it is in the uplines interest to keep people in, so selling the dream of making it big, and telling people that family objections are negativity they should ignore, even when they are spending more than making... 'you are investing now, when you reach x or y the money will roll in, you don't want to miss that by quitting now' etc. To be the watcher whilst someone you love is sucked in and damaging you both financially, but unable to pierce the programming must be as tough as the betrayal of your second ex, different but both tough

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

Good for you to taking care of yourself and kiddo first. Sending all the good vibes your way!

The struggle love that’s exhibited in so many faith based marriages is literally terrifying. Love and marriage should NOT be that difficult.

My win for the week is that I went to the dentist yesterday and was told my teeth are just about perfect 😁

My win for the week is that I went for a walk today even though I’m still trying to kick a cold that I’ve had all week. Morgan seems wholly uninterested in all of this. It feels like she’s going to fall asleep at any moment. That moment you mentioned when Paul crosses his arms was really bizarre. Not only did he cross his arms, but he literally turned his body away from her and looked down. I’m not a body language expert, but that was strange.

Getting divorced was the best and most difficult thing I have ever done for myself. God wants you to be happy, safe, fulfilled, and able to live the life that’s healthiest for you. If that requires divorce, then that’s OK and you’re not evil, bad, or hated by God because of it.

my win for the week is that i'm finally starting to understand watercolour painting, i'm taking a class in uni for watercolour and i have been hating it until the last 2 days LOL

Man, Morgan just seems SO stuck in adolescence. Like I truly can't grasp that she isn't a teenager.

Win is I got a promotion! Also, I was so excited I caught a new video early!

@violettefemme21

10 ай бұрын

Congrats! 🎉 I got a promotion this week too!

Morgan is going to turn into a martyr for having a shitty marriage and "sticking it out" and Sophie gets to leave her nightmare.

My win for the week is that we are getting our new Australian Shepard puppy today and she's so sweet!

My win of the week is twofold - received my check from my last theater acting gig, and was just cast in a new, small show. I don’t do theater for a living, but it’s a fun side gig.

@BHaney

10 ай бұрын

That’s so exciting! Break a leg in this new show! 🎉

@VinceOConnor

10 ай бұрын

@@BHaneyThanks!

My win for the week, my baby came yesterday when I turned 37 weeks. I had got induced but ended up getting a c section and I was ready.

@aoefeable

10 ай бұрын

Wonderful win!!

@angelawossname

10 ай бұрын

Mazel tov! You win the win for the week! That's wonderful.

My win is that I went through a tough meeting and did not feel anxious 😊 And posting a picture of Paul next toa black person saying he “loves all people” is so bizarre, feels like a bit from The Twilight Zone.

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

"I'm not racist.. I know a black person."

I'm no longer religious but I stumbled across your page because I watch a lot of reactions to some of the same pages you talk about I think it's genuinely inviting here without being overbearing I was raised in church for most of my life and lost my faith trying to prove it

I agree, like literally I think THEY should get a divorce….they basically are always saying they have a toxic marriage. And listen, I’m engaged and I completely understand and agree that a marriage is WORK. But with Paul and Morgan, things look like a lil bit too much work…

When it comes to Jesus’ context for marriage I think it’s also important to note how financially dependent wives were on their husbands until very recently. Being able to divorce your wife at a moments notice with no good reason would leave a lot of women financially vulnerable

I am a 23 year old Christian woman. My father claims to be a Christian as well. He told me the other day that if I married a man who hit me, it would be fair to stay married to him unless he hit me often.... I think I shut that out in my mind until I heard Paul say what he did in this video

@helenr4300

10 ай бұрын

Yikes. Just as well that as an individual person you get to decide not your dad. But it sucks that someone who should offer a protective role thinks this

Win: We finally got our basement fixed up after almost a year of it being unusable!! Comment: It's amazing to watch them decide one older non-American man's advice is way more valid than another's because of what they personally believe, and not because of deep study or research. Perhaps Paul, Hugh Jackman's years of experience (of which he has more than you) have led him to a place where divorce/separation makes the most sense to him as a Christian. I'm not wishing ill intent on anyone, but I'm very curious to see if this video ages badly in a decade or so, because they can't seem to talk about marriage without talking about hard work (in a tedious way) and their troubles.

My win is that I finally got approved for a support worker to help with Dr appts and shopping and I no longer have to burden friends and family members. (I am going blind, it got really bad last year so I am still adjusting). Her name is Palwinder and she is lovely and didn't mind reading out the prices of every single brand of every item I wanted to buy! I like to be frugal.

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

Sweet! Thank goodness for kind helpers!

So toxic how Paul and Morgan think other public figures aren't entitled to their privacy because they personally have made the choice to air out their dirty laundry for an audience.

Maybe they talk about how rough their marriage is makes them feel like willing “Christian “ martyrs of sorts. Like: see, we aren’t happy a lot and we’re are still suffering thru this! Also, don’t they get that good “Christians” aren’t judgmental or gossipy?

My win for the week is that I found a good Christian young adults group.

The sound of Paul Morgan could be used by CIA "enhanced interrogators" And speaking of torture, him using Morgan bringing up the patriarchal priesthood/head of household "duties" a Christian husband and father is excepted to perform to not only milk a compliment out of her but to also essentially force her to forgive him for w.e. she's been upset with him about the past week for really must be a microcosm of what their entire relationship looks like 🤢

Paul and Morgan need to read the quiet part of their marriage out loud. Which reads “Hey we stayed together and we hate each other. Quit divorcing y’all. Suck it up like we are and stay in permanent state of tolerable unhappiness.” 😅

I love how they think they have the experience to weigh in on the end of a 30 yr marriage. Like, mayhaps, something was learned in those 30 yrs that Paul and Morgan just don't understand yet

I grew up in a similar faith structure and also got married at 22. Them describing their marriage being rough is part of their "testimony". It's intended to show that they're still strong in their faith, despite their struggles. The specifics would look bad so they won't ever specify. Basically it's the "holier than thou" attitude mixed with condemning people who leave a faith group because of hard times.

I suspect that Paul believes all of Morgan's struggles with pregnancy and birth are punishment for her not being a virgin when they married. I'd bet money that he brings it up almost every time they fight. He seems like he very much believes she should be grateful that he married her. They're both awful, but I suspect she is too sheltered to know better.

My huzzah for the week: I was told that my endometriosis still hasn’t reached my ovaries (beyond a mild stage 1) and my tissues have held well after my hysterectomy (I have Ehlers-Danlos so tissues can …weaken). And another plus, restarted my depo shots for the remaining endo pain. Fingers crossed! It doesn’t worsen to stage 4 any time soon. 4:44 I was about to be like blah blah” but then I remembered that they’re creators, they’re, I guess, public figures/influencers so yes, they need to watch the optics….what MY bro in law does (well, they do NOT post almost anything about family etc as should be….especially since they aren’t influencers etc) 7:54 if I didn’t know them any better, I always think she looks stoned 😂 might just be her exhaustion/not wanting to be there… 17:11 oh no, other Christian folk who don’t follow their style of Christianity…heck, I’m Catholic, and I believe if you need to divorce, then go for it! There are reasons for people doing it and even if they just divorce because they weren’t meant to be, I’m not sure surprised because so many get married knowing so little of the other (non Christian and Christian alike) and others within purity culture, ah well, going from barely touching to having sex overnight it’s….yeah…. 18:20 I think it just SPILLS out because I think it must be a bit…ummm rocky it seems Forgive me if I sound discombobulated…It’s gone 3 am 21:54 yes, dears, I have known people do that and also, hey, some of us are meant to be single (I say this as a happy single lady) 22:33 exactly! 28:54 again, yes! As a Catholic I have doctrine I follow in my faith but do I believe I should IMPOSE that on someone? NO! why do they think that? And NO INWILL NOT give a thumbs up. Yeah, shameless e-beg! 32:17 ah, see? Even in the Catholic Church cheating? Yup! You’re allowed to get it annulled/divorce etc (as are things like abuse, things such as you mentioned from Paul…the apostle…not this dude) 34:15 YES! I ALWAYS bring this up! Aye it’s all the history classes I took. We need to view, say, primary or secondary sources, not with our modern day glasses, we need to use um, “ye olde day “ glasses XD 35:36 don’t you hate it when another Paul makes it all confusing XD 36:06 I am maybe reacting to your video via comments 36:39 I agree with that 100%. Again, Paul and Morgan take it all so incredibly LITERAL and don’t realize or selectively forget that the Bible is…LAYERS deep (thanks, Greeks for the most part) 38:32 ah, Mosaic law. I mean, in an anthropological way, I can see why they had multiple wives etc and also why things began to change. 40:04 yep! And if they don’t really know….WHY do they talk about all this as if they know so much? There are things to discuss but we won’t discuss em 41:00 yeah, but then they would have to admit that there ARE good reasons, good Biblical reasons, to divorce. And that’s not in their narrative

I do not say this lightly, but GOD I wish these two would just get divorced already. I grew up with parents who were in an unhappy marriage for more than 20 years. My childhood was at times every bit as miserable as their marriage was, to be frank. I was actually excited when they separated and divorced, because it was a *RELIEF* for the fighting to finally stop. And where are my parents now? Happily remarried to other people and they’re all friends. My dad even comes to my mom’s family’s house for Thanksgiving! Getting divorced, ironically enough, was actually what made them *get along better.* Paul and Morgan make me so mad, but they really need to just own up to reality. Evangelical purity culture sold you a false idol about love and marriage, and you’re still holding onto that idol. Marriages fail, and that is just an unfortunate reality of being human. God knows this. He’s not stupid.

@ashleyhall6098

9 ай бұрын

They're going to be divorced much sooner than Hugh and Deborrah lasted. At least those two actually liked each other. Paul and Morgan stand zero chance of making it to like 10 years.

morgan was quoting a recent article from forbes that uses study data from a poll of 52 people. hardly a representative sample. what does lack of commitment even mean? the questions used in the study were so vague to be unusable for stats.

Paul pressuring Morgan to accept his apology on camera, even if meant in jest, is SO absolutely manipulative and creepy.

Here is what drives me crazy about Christians talking about divorce, and Paul did it here too. SO often they make nuanced assumptions about why people get divorced. “People just have an argument and get divorced! Work it out!” Or “If your partner isn’t growing fast enough for you, that isn’t grounds for a divorce!!” However, when you have conversations with people that have had divorces… 10/10 times it was a hard decision. Christians like P&M just assume that there was more that could have done to save a marriage, but rarely (if ever) recognize that there was probably a lot that went into the decision that we could never know, because we weren’t in the marriage! If there are people out there that have 1 simple argument that sends them to a divorce (like P&M seem to think people are so flippant and basic… or like that video of the old man they played, who is arguably very “boomer” and also out of touch with reality), that is crazy to me, but I would argue that is probably due to immaturity, and not a representation of the majority. I don’t know… I just get really triggered by these types of people.

@helenr4300

10 ай бұрын

^^^ this, absolutely

Not once, when he addresses his wife by name, is there even an ounce of affection. It's so patronizing and cold, and he does it a LOT

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

I commented on that too! I feel like that only happens in books and movies.I never call my partner by his name. I call him babe.

Do Paul and Morgan even like each other? Serious question!Them on-screen together makes me uncomfortable.

Yay!! You’re my new favorite KZreadr and I already binged all your other Paul and Morgan content so I’m so excited for this😂❤

Morgan is really trying to convince herself that she shouldn’t divorce Paul. Isn’t this the girl who threw up on her wedding day at the alter? Lol

@rachelanderson4325

9 ай бұрын

Also the girl whose mentioned that she has to convince herself to sleep with him when she doesn’t want to. Girl is absolutely miserable

@kay-bc3vl

9 ай бұрын

@@rachelanderson4325 YES

It’s interesting to me that 1) both Paul and Morgan basically preach that “Biblical marriage is misery, and good people just suck it up and do it.” No, those are the words they use; but Paul says “I never heard marriage was a fantasy-I was told that it’s incredibly hard and a lot of work.” Meanwhile, Morgan describes it as laying your life down every day for the other person-an ongoing state of self-denial. 2) upon Morgan’s description (which you can tell by her nonverbals was a reflection of how she personally experiences her side of the marriage and what she reminds herself to keep going), Paul immediately says “oh, you’re clearly talking about *me* being selfless and laying my life down for you every day.” Her face says it all, but he is determined to make it about him. All positive credit has to be given to him.

@helenr4300

10 ай бұрын

Yet it is their breed of Christians who are against Disney etc being more nuanced in their fairy tale telling. How dare anyone tweak the happy ending cliche 'and she married him and lived happily ever after'. The irony being that the original folk takes were messier. Sleeping beauty raped and having children during her slumber, little mermaid dies I think....

@rivendells_shona

8 ай бұрын

@@helenr4300the “origins” of Sleeping Beauty are so convoluted (coming from different cultures with different versions, just like the Cinderella story) that’s impossible to nail down which is the “original story”… but yeah. I get your point. Some of the earlier stories are just gnarly and don’t at all reflect “girl finds happily ever after by marriage” that traditionalists want to believe is the moral message. (Though the original Little Mermaid actually wanted to become human so she could have a soul, as mermaids are “unholy beings” in Anderson’s original tale and are soulless. She has to seek the love of the prince-or any human male, for that matter- because she can gain a soul if she learns to love him and earn his love in return? Something like that. She sadly fails and does turn to sea foam in the end.)

I think it’s amusing that Paul and Morgan think they understand all the nuances of a celebrity divorce based on a PR statement. We will see over time why these two couples got divorced or we won’t but it’s naive and foolish to think we have all the information. As someone in their 40s though, I’ve seen a lot of friends get divorced for a number of reasons and none of it was so simple or an easy choice so maybe they can revisit this when they’re older and know more 😂🤪

Yay! Excited to listen while working

My win for the week is I was able to help a student who has been struggling with her behavior in class and implement some changes that have helped her to have FOUR great days in a row! It really makes me angry when Christian’s hold non-Christian’s to Christian standards. Why would people who don’t believe in God care about what he thinks of divorce?

They seem to not like each other much, when Morgan mentions not being compatible not being a reason for divorce my brain went ahha, thats why these people are still married. Relationships and Marriages can be hard but they shouldn't always be hard.

My win for the week is that i got my hair cut the other day and one of the barbers brought her dogs that day

I have only watched a few of your Paul and Morgan vids and have heard about how tough their first few years were multiple times and it's a bit alarming. There are many alarming things.. . That they cut each other off. That he calls her Morgan all the time (it seems condescending.. I call my partner babe and use his name maybe once a month.. 😂) That he leads all of the conversation and doesn't even seem to listen to her. I can't imagine being in a relationship like theirs. I would peace out.

Yeah paul being rascist and accused of being rascist isnt a surprise. He posted a vid a bit back complaining about how tired he is of seeing interracial couples on TV. He believes its part of some kind of insidious "agenda". He said he's willing to tolerate one on screen at a time but anymore then that makes him angry and uncomfortable. He was also abit annoyed that morgan wouldnt join him on his rant grabted she didnt challange him or disagree but still

💯 adultery is not the only reason for divorce. Abuse (physical and mental) run rampant in the church. The abused are shamed by fellow believers and pastors, into remaining married regardless of the severity of the abuse. This should NEVER be!!

I have never seen so much fake laughs, false humor, and practiced smiles so much in my life until I started watching content like this. The fake laughs just make my skin crawl. I cant tell if its just for the camera or if its so ingrained in their, especially her routine that its become her natural normal.

People need to remember that marriages have been very much men centered. Domestic duties are extremely unbalanced and a lot of women take on the brunt of child labor alone. That gets very stressful to the point thay married women literally lose a lot of years on their life. I will say i care nothing for celebrity divorces. Its nonw of our buisnesses nor shoukd we hold them in high regard. They are actors/singers/etc they are not above you. The woman hugh was married to i believe even stated she had to be the one to put her whole career on hold when she married hugh. She lost a lot of advancement she could have made wereas hugh got to chase his dreams.

They never seem like they even tolerate each other. It’s as if Morgan and Paul are subconsciously using their marital suffering to bring them closer to God. Kinda looks performative at a another level to me.

My win for the week is that I am getting my first ever brand new car! My cars have always been very old and broken down half the time so this is some very new and exciting territory for me! Signed the lease and it will be here end of October :) 2024 VW Tiguan!

@Darbster

9 ай бұрын

That's great! 🎉

I absolutely agree with what you are saying in response to Paul and Morgan and deeply appreciate hearing you say it. One thing I want to say in response to something you mention while talking about Paul's writings and Jesus' teaching. Nowhere in Scripture are we told that Christ's intention was to start a new church. In fact, He came first for the Jews. There was no concept even in the minds of the disciples that they were somehow creating a new church. Christ is Messiah, the One upon whom the children of God had been waiting. They didn't and don't recognize Him as such, but their disbelief doesn't change the intention of God incarnate.

Just no. If your partner hurts you, betrayed or doesn't hold up their end of y'all's relationship you have the right to leave and be happy and/or sad to do so.

There is something that they talked about that just really sets my teeth on edge - people don't get divorced all over the place because they had 1 argument, or just woke up and were like meh, I'm bored, laters. I mean, maybe there have been peole like that, but it's not the majority like their "old timer" said. I'm divorced, and I fought tooth and nail for my marriage but my ex just walked away. Turns out, I've made the best of it, but i get so much trash for something i didn't even choose for myself.

Side note: I wish it was actually easy to get a divorce in the US. That process is expensive in literally every single financial aspect of life (taxes, all kinds of insurance, interest rates on literally anything...) not to mention the government fees in the process itself. They don't make it easy to get a divorce here. Also, the old guy saying "it doesn't exist. Well, it exists, but it's not the same." What does that even mean?

Are Paul and Morgan resentful that they cannot separate because of their values on marriage? And are lashing out at the people who are freeing themselves from their marriages?

I've been married for almost 15 years and never will I understand the "marriage is hard" sentiment. I get that times can become hard within a marriage, and your partner can enrage you at times, etc etc., but IN GENERAL "marriage is hard"? No. Life is hard and my marriage makes life easier (in general). If your marriage makes life harder for you, divorce *should* be an option.

50% of marriages end in divorce is a very misleading statistic and it’s irresponsible of Paul and Morgan to use that statistic without acknowledging that. I really appreciate how nuanced and respectful you are in your videos.

@rachel3620

10 ай бұрын

It's also an old stat. Divorce among 20 and 30 somethings is down significantly due to delaying or foregoing marriage.

Marriage is not for everyone. And what about the apostle Paul saying it’s better to be single then to get married.

51:59 Paul and Morgan have literally said the opposite of this in another video. In their women in leadership video, they made a whole thing about how it is the wife’s duty and ministry to serve the husband, then kids, and ONLY if you have time afterwards they can work on themselves. They were absolutely part of the problem. They’re such hypocrites. 52:42 Yeah I think I know why Paul is feeling defensive. He sub-conciously remembers he was part of this.

I read this as “speak on THEIR divorce” and was like ?!?!

Yayyyyy so excited for this!

Geeeez these people sound miserable! Am in the minority with my experience? My life improved tenfold as soon as I got married and moved in with my new husband. 3 years and 2 kids later, it’s honestly the easiest thing I’ve ever done being in a marriage! It’s awesome! I don’t know what’s wrong with these people or if they’re just not compatible or what. My husband and are Christian too but we’re not super strict like these two.

Win for the week! I had a really nice visit with my dad & step mum this weekend on Vancouver Island :)

My marriage isn't hard so I guess I'm not doing it right. 🤷

It’s weird; what happened before this? That Paul is trying to paint that he loves all people? It’s seems like it is a response to something? Am I missing something?

@lindseystein9676

10 ай бұрын

Maybe he said something racist again?

@BHaney

10 ай бұрын

I mean Paul regularly says things that are racially insensitive and with his recent attempt to use Mickey Atkins’ weight in order to discredit her I’d guess it was a broad defense against peoples’ general gripes against him.

@targaghjj

10 ай бұрын

He's gone on a few rants about "woke". Specifically about mixed race couples on, I think, Lord of the Rings? Ironic, huh?

Yeah the reason those letters encouraged people to not get divorced was mainly because women often didn’t own property, so a guy dumping his wife out of the blue would make her poor and homeless.

My win for the week is that some tech.-issues at work got resolved, and that I’ve gotten access to timetables and writing hours again