Pathfinder: WotR - Ranking 199 Classes Part 11: Inquisitor & Archetypes
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This video starts my series ranking all the classes in Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. The first video in this series walks through the ranking system. A link to my guide on all 25 base class mechanics is below.
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00:00 Intro
01:07 Inquisitor
01:28 Faith Hunter
02:41 Judge
04:48 Monster Tactician
05:27 Sacred Huntsmaster
06:43 Sanctified Slayer
07:53 Tactical Leader
09:03 Outro
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1. [Lawful](Requires Aeon Mythic Path): I am a Judge.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
LMFAO
These class breakdowns are an absolute clinic on how to present complex ideas with clarity and precision. Well done my dude.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate that feedback. I was hesitant to start this series but I think it has worked out very well.
Re: Judge One thing I think worth point out. _Despite the obvious narrative fit,_ Judge is one of the worst choices for the Aeon. Aeon is really hungry for swift actions, and Judge trades some of your free bonuses for _more_ actions that require swift actions.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the action economy for that combo sucks.
@rodrigoaparicio2827
Жыл бұрын
Ppppp
Sanctified Slayer with the Animal domain is one of very few archetypes that give sneak attack progression and a pet. A mounted Trickster Sanctified Slayer it is a superb healer because you can spam completely normal Metamagic cure light wounds with sneaky quack adding precision healing equal to your sneak attack dice.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow didn't consider that sounds like a nice combination.
Love these quick summaries of all the classes! At the end I would appreciate a video summarizing all the S-ranked archetypes across all the classes. Maybe the As as well, depending how many S we end up with. Thank you for the content!
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yup we will definitely do a summary video.
Really like the list of the classes and their ranking at the end! Nice touch and please continue doing it! Have a great day!
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Will do! Thank you!
The rank summary at the end was great! I had to look back at the previous video to see if i had been missing those lol. Loving these videos and how the rankings are solely in terms of the base and its archetypes.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I will include a summary at the end of the videos from here on out.
The base class is what I used during my Lawful Evil run in Kingmaker, and I loved it! Because Jaethal was in my party I eventually had my Inquisitor become a duelist and had Jaethal multiclass into Slayer around halfway in, just so that they would both feel distinct from one another, but even with the overlap I loved that group dynamic 🙂 I doubt I'll use Inquisitor when I finally start playing Wrath, since I don't like rehashing character builds between games, but this is a great class and the perfect thematic choice for any lawful evil playthrough 😀
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yup Inquisitor is awesome I really liked Jaethal.
Awesome breakdown once again! Inquisitor is a fantastic class (Sanctified Slayer, Judge). Keep up the great work. Always something to look forward to!
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad the series is working for you!
Thanks for the summary at the end with all the rankings 😄
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
My favorite class! Excellent.
my favorite base class! great video!
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Side note about Judge If you planned on going azata, as thematically clashing as that sounds, the loss of solo tactics is moot as you can share ALL your team work feats with your companions(including animal companions) with life-bonding friendship
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yup that's a great combo if you can get past the alignment issues.
awesome video this helped me make my choice for the inquisitor base build and is going to make the next 400 hours a lot easier for me thank you, you have a new subscriber
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Welcome to the channel!
Thank you brother, nice informative videos! Really best series out there Also, I appreciate your manner of speech, obviously you invested some points in speechcraft 😊Subscribing and staying for longer. Keep it up! 🙂
@SlanderedGaming
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it.
First time playing WOTR, and I picked Tactical Leader for RP reasons. Still wrapping my head around the system, but I enjoy it so far.
I like the final list of rankings at the end.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
I will include it from here on out.
I am interested in trying out the sanctified slayer as part of a 3-4 level dip for my deliverer slayer build. trying to decide whether aeon or a more lawful angel run than a merciful one would be the best fit. great summary of the classes btw. made things easier with understanding certain classes.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Thanks glad you enjoyed.
Sacred Hunstsmaster is particularly useful by giving you pet the Tandem Trip feat, which it usually wouldnt be able to get.
ahhh Inquisitor…arguably my first love between Paladin. Thank you!!!
Just a tidbit as to the monster tactician. It has a notable strength and weakness. Stength is the summons by its class feature are standard actions meaning you can move and cast it. It also makes the summon act the turn it is brought into existence making it more aggressive and a better distraction. Almost like animate dead in how quickly it acts. The draw back is that it's one at a time. You summon you selection and you can't spam it without replacing your previous choice.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Don't new versions of summons also replace the old ones? So even if you prefer to use the wolves and trip you cannot because the game forces you to use the highest level summon you have?
@thecombativemedic521
Жыл бұрын
@@SlanderedGaming yep. You get the highest level of summon period so when you hit 6th or 7th level summon monster (I can't remember if dire wolves where summon monster 3 or 4) you lose access to dire wolves.
Thanks for this inquisitor was such a text heavy class I never used them
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure.
I used a Judge for a Lawful Neutral True Aeon, the class features work and its good; Judgment Aura is great and Sentence is pretty good too, but they both have limited uses per day (very limited until at least mid-game) and loss of Bane is still painful. It fits the concept perfectly, and I made him a mid-line reach weapon fighter, he crushes as a party buffer who gets big hits in, just gotta take Outflank the old-fashioned way.
I'm having a lot of good time as a Judge Inquisitor, Aeon mythic path.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yup that path makes up for the loss of Bane.
I actually really like monster tactician. It's one of the most viable summoning builds in the game alongside Beast tamer
What really screws the summons in WoTR is the mythic paths. When all of your party have huge bonuses and the enemies are scaled to fight that, suddenly an extra frog on the battlefield matters much less.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yup I agree. Plus besides maybe Aeon none of the Mythic Paths really specialize in making summons better.
I like fact, that you add in the outro ranks of all subclasses. I have one question to you, not too much in common with video. I just finished playing as Hellknight/angel with heavy shield and sword, so taken role of Damagedealer/tank. I wondering which class I should take in the new playthrought, mostly to take new combination of the party, when for most times I leave behind melee party memebers, like Seelath, Regill or Greybor. But I most like having my character on the front line, so it is hard to me taking class which is ranger attack or support. It would be better to me give a chance to new role in the party for my main character or change companions to fit another role in the party? I know this question sounds dumb, but I spend already many days on simple choise what class to play, not ewen leaving the character creation. Damit, I didn't had same problems with Baldur's gate or Dragon age.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Seems like you want to leave behind melee related party members and stick to characters like Ember and Lann? If so I would recommend Kineticist.
Ooooooooh so that's what judge does. Sounds hardcore dealing with concealment enemies
My take on monster tactician. It might be far better than C, probably a A. The summons is a much better version of the usual summon spell, sice the materialize and attack at the same turn. Also them have your teamwork feats, so Outflank and Seize the moment outright delete someone when triggered. The summons themselves have a nice interaction with endure spells, making them almost permanent, so they might last for multiple combats and there is mythic feat that improve them as well. My only concern is the AI, the good summons are dumb as hell, but provide buffs and auras to the party, but the evil ones are more efficient in general
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Unless something has changed you don't get to control which summons you can use. Each time a new version comes you are forced to use those summons even if they are weaker than the previous version. That to me makes this a less desirable summoning class than some other version and consequently I put it at C.
the jedi class 🥳
damn.. one handed crossbow would have been great on this class... so i could take "Very" enthusiastic walks through the woods.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
😂
Judge on an azata run seems like it could be very powerful
I miss playing an Inquisitor.
Greetings yourself!
I'm considering using the inquisitor for a Swarm mythic run. Teamwork feat would work with companions and then later with clones. Also cover any skill + bonus to perception and initiative. Though I'm not sure which archetype to use here 🤔. The judge sentence is cool, but the judgement aura would be useless (unless I want to stack every judgement). And losing bane + tw feat hurt. Would Sanctified slayer be worth it on swarm ? Or basic is better here with unlimited judgement ?
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Why do you write off Judgement Aura? It would still be useful especially with the clones.
@norfemignissius4936
Жыл бұрын
@@SlanderedGaming Because they could simply use theirs ? And I see no reason to use all of them at the same time. The precision and damage one are always good. The AC one and Saving throw too, I can sacrifice the damage for both of these. The rest seems situationnal.
Divine hound hunter is the TRUE Sacred Huntsmaster lol
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I would say that you kinda undersell Monster Tactician. I would rank it higher as a B or A-, and that's because if you take the nature domain you can get a pet that will work with all the feats along with the summons. Take a pet that trips, like the wolf, and your little pack can shred enemies off attacks of opportunity. I mean you can still solo the game with the archetype if you build it right.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
It cannot be an A class if you have to select a specific domain to make it work.
@terrakross5376
Жыл бұрын
@Slandered Gaming But with mythic abilities you can take a second domain, so you aren't exactly locked into taking the domain. But besides the pet you also get nature's ally which are generally better versions of Summon Monster as well as stacking with them, even if they don't last quite as long. Plus you have mentioned many times how useful pets are and how they redeem a class that would otherwise be mediocre. Plus animal domain is just one of the stronger domains you can take no matter the divine caster that can pick a domain. The fact you also get nature's ally and have the option of another domain with a mythic feat doesn't feel like it's to far off base from other classes that are saved solely by having a pet. Especially since inquisitors only get a max spell level of 6.
i made a judge character because of you.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Nice! Hope you enjoy it!
1st! Sorry... had to...good content, good man!
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Never liked skills like swift tactician or a lot of skills like it either. Like if you think about it, even at lv 20 that's what? A minute and some change of teamwork? Even at the start that's pretty much losing a round of bad guy smacking for giving everyone a buff that's about on par as a bless spell for 3 rounds. But I guess it should be noted, if you're playing Azata, all those free teamwork feats you get do apply to Life Bonding Friendship which kind of frees you up for more magical anime comic book powers.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Exactly the Tactician classes are not worth it.
i think monster tactician as an evil character would work better than good. demons are immune to eletricity, so the lightning bolts arent that good.
You do great videos, so I am not trying to knock you down. Sacred Huntmaster, to me is a D. Hunter gets an archetype with judgements, and a pet. It is simply better than huntmaster.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
I rank the subclasses only against the base class. I do not rank them against other classes. In a strictly Inquisitor bubble, Sacred Huntmaster is not a D.
@cptnstevie
Жыл бұрын
Divine Hound > Sacred Huntmaster.
I find it odd that the Inquisitor thing are the jugements...yet most of the time the subclasses lose the jugement ability 😕
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Paladin is the same way. The subclasses love removing it's best ability.
@peterdenov4898
Жыл бұрын
Owlcat when creating WOTR sub-classes & prestige classes be like: -I take the core thing that makes your class useful. -You receive random low rarity misc junk, that is not only completely irrelevant for your class in general, but also *dosen't* even scale with it in *ANY* way, AND could be potentially entirely counterintuitive for it, basically ruining whatever little could've been savaged in late game & making progression physically impossible on higher difficulties.
A few points about sacred huntsmaster: you can get a pet through your domain, albeit at level 4, and then needing to be level 5 to get boon companion. This very significantly diminishes the value of archetype. On the plus side, Azata do actually get instant enemy. Its pretty late in the game however (chapter 4) and the slots are very limited. You are giving up castings of believe in yourself to use the ability.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Interesting those are good call outs. Personally I rank Believe in Yourself over Instant Enemy.
@Flagonborn
Жыл бұрын
Sacred huntsmaster is basically worse than divine hound in nearly every way.
Just a note - Inquisitors do not get the domain spells.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yup that was an error on my part thank you.
Inquisitors don't get any domain spells.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
This is correct. If I said otherwise my apologies.
Dont rly get s tier on Hunter devine Hunter. I love sanctified slayer. Which imo is the better archtype berween the 2. Santified gets so many bonuses. Sneak . Study target extra feats and domain. There is no way devine Hunter going to beat that
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
Even with the new patch adding Inherent Buffs?
I think you're running into the same problem over and over again. You assume people watched all the videos previous when most of the views probably come from someone popping in here for specifically the class in the video. Your regulars may also not watch all the videos but be popping into the middle of the list when they have time to watch a video. Also a 2 hour video is intimidating to a lot of people in terms of information videos. Understand most build in depth guides are less than 20 minutes.
@SlanderedGaming
Жыл бұрын
The base class mechanics video has chapters so you can easily get to whichever class you want information on. If I included base mechanics in each of these class videos it would balloon their size significantly.
@Thebuffshaman
Жыл бұрын
@@SlanderedGaming Yeah but they look at the link and it doesn't tell them that so they see the length and never click it it's an intimidation factor