"What Im about to describe is not min-maxing, what Im about to describe is what Id call optimization" Im not a camper, I just wait at tactical positions to ambush the opposition

@sugar4me225

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaha

@derrickbonsell

5 жыл бұрын

25 points makes well-rounded characters more possible than lower point buys do. Is one more point in a modifier worth the points needed to get there? Maybe, maybe not, but it IS min-maxing if you are doing so.

@kalibbailey6219

5 жыл бұрын

I would argue "Min-Maxing" Would be Poring over builds for hours in an attempt to get that last 10% effectiveness and (or) break the game. I would say Optimization is a fair assessment

@war1980

5 жыл бұрын

@@kalibbailey6219 www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/optimization : an act, process, or methodology of making something (such as a design, system, or decision) as fully perfect, functional, or effective as possible Hmmm.

@xXPrazenXx

5 жыл бұрын

@@kalibbailey6219 Almost like watching a 1 and a half hour video on how to make your characters slightly more effective. I would say min-maxing is a fair assessment.

I know this is like 3 years old now, but just wanna throw out a big thanks for this guide as someone who's just picked up kingmaker in anticipation of the second game. This was a huge help in understanding how to look at my builds and what kind of stat spread to go for - especially as you describe, not trying to build typical MMO classes (which is kind of exactly what I was doing at first), but more of an overall balanced build that leans towards that classes purpose. That really helped me understand the stat spread of a character, which isn't something I normally have issues with but I was struggling to grasp with this game. I actually love the complexity of the game's mechanics and the unforgiving nature of it and it's actually quite refreshing that all the stats matter to some degree for any class. I didn't take into account that completely dumping or focusing fully on one or two stats isn't a good way to go and your explanation as to the effects of doing so was very helpful rather than just saying "don't do this". That's a big thumbs up from me - also can't wait for the second game!

@darkfireslide

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Glad the guide helped

Its ironic this vid comes into my recommended list the day after EA meets with U.K. Politicians for a hearing: EA: they aren't Loot Boxes, they are Surprise Mechanics Darkfireslide: it's not Min-Maxing....it's Optimizing. That aside, the vid has plenty of good content in it.

Every time dark says that he is not min maxing, drink a shot

@Roguhr

4 жыл бұрын

or every time he says "umm"

@ALDS-zk9ko

2 жыл бұрын

@@Roguhr are you trying to die my dude?

Also, Reduce Person is an absolutely phenomenal spell to cast on a wizard or Alchemist of your own, because it will give them a single penalty to strength, which they don't use, and reduce their weapon damage, which they don't have to use, in return for a bonus to AC that stacks with most other bonuses to AC and a bonus to dexterity and hit. Early on you might even use this on a knife master rogue to get more hits for sneak attack, since those damage dice are not reduced like the weapon damage. You can turn your stabby halfling into this little pixie that just dashes around and stabs your enemy in the knees XD

"We dumped these stats to maximize these stats" - Wait, that's the definition of "minimize" and "maximize" XD

@mathiassteven6695

2 жыл бұрын

instablaster...

I found both the general introduction and the same characters very useful. Long, but not a waste of time. Thanks!

What you did for the fighter (I'm still watching the rest of the video) is exactly what min maxing is. You could have 10 mental stats across the board while bumping con a little bit and the character would still be viable. That's optimizing. Dumping stats is min-maxing. And there's nothing wrong with that. You bought the game, you play it however you want.

Very good video, lots to take and learn from it HOWEVER Charisma is NOT only for Persuasion and Use Magic Device. Charisma is important for channeling power.If you remove all charisma you have a Cleric with no Cleric power: 3 Channeling Power a day - the 3 minus from removing Charisma = Zero; I tested it and you get a very sad Cleric. There is other class dealing with channeling so make sure you read the In-Game description and information.

Dark, welcome back (again)! (Also I just noticed this game on steam yesterday and it looked cool so this video seems very convenient)

@darkfireslide

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I love Pathfinder and wanted to do something for the wandering mass of souls having a hard time with this game.

For all the jabs about the distinction between min/maxing and optimizing, I actually appreciated your take on it. Even if it’s technically the same thing, I actually understood it as more of a mindset that an exact science. It worked for me because I was taking the standard MMO approach to stats and not realizing how many things each stat affects. Thus, now I can be more mindful of the side effects of dumping certain stats that I may need for certain skill checks. Anyway, all that to say it was actually helpful to me as I’ve never played pnp Pathfinder and didn’t know the mechanics

This has been super-useful, man! You're a +4 item of added enjoyment!! Thank you very much.

2 reasons for a 1st level fighter to start with 13 Intelligence: Combat Expertise (requires it) and Trip (requires CE). Everything you touch falls down when you activate Trip. You don't deal damage, but when your target tries to get up, it's a pinata of opportunity attacks from you and your barbarian friend and whoever else you brought in, so you apply crowd control and deal 2+ attacks worth of pain for sacrificing one.

@PokemonTrainerChris303

8 ай бұрын

I just got this game and I use animal companion dog m. He attacks and can trip

Point-Blank Shot and Precise Shot : because the rules use the term "ranged weapon", a lot of people, me included, did not think it affected "weapon-like" spells where you need to roll to hit. But you are right, those Feats do apply to ray spells or similar attack spells. This always means you have -4 to hit an enemy in melee with one of your companions. This game does not improve rule descriptions anyhow... to say the least.

Good job here. A few statements of yours i could debate or dispute but overall that's great advice. I'ld enjoy watching a let's play of this from you:)

OMG THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!!! I have been so lost has to how to build a charactor and how stats work and feats and this really help me out alot. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! if there is anymore information you can give plz make more videos.

@darkfireslide

5 жыл бұрын

I planned on it! Stay tuned. :)

You did a good job and I enjoyed it.

This is the best starting guide I have found.

Just picked up this game on steam and this video is a so helpful. Great job on the video! Ages like wine :)

I like how you redefined "min-maxing" to be exploiting, so that you can "optimize" instead :D. You min-max. It's okay, no need to be ashamed about it :> Also thanks for the awesome guide. Really helpful!

Thats the definition of min max, lowering a stat to the minimum while rising another stat to the maximum

Hi. KZread RANDOMLY recommended this video to me, and now I'm planning out when I can buy the game. So I guess you can say you convinced me to dollar vote for this game. :)

1:00: The distinction I'd make is that optimization is just trying to build a good character, min/maxing is a specific method of doing so (by giving your character extreme deficiencies in areas that "don't matter" (e.g, Charisma) to "pay for" extreme strengths in areas that do), and munchkinning is optimization intended to break the game. But it's not like these terms are set in stone; language is fluid and all that.

@darkfireslide

5 жыл бұрын

I mean that's true. My problem with the term min/maxing is that it assumes a character like a Fighter will be overpowered if you give it good stats at the cost of others. It's not true. Certain classes like Wizards and Clerics will outshine even an optimized Fighter. Another min/maxing thing to me is taking multiple classes to exploit bonuses, like dipping a level into Alchemist just to get a stat boost from a Mutagen.

@bavettesAstartes

5 жыл бұрын

@@darkfireslide I agree that in the tabletop casters will always outshine mundane classes, but from what I have been playing I feel the game has been fine enough. There is not as many ways in which casters outshine other classes, and since the player controls all characters I feel you never really has a chance to feel useless, and contrary to games of old (looking at you BG2) there's very little character envy, if any at all

@bavettesAstartes

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry if this was rambly. I just meant to say to not worry hard about stats that much. My fighter has 13 not cause I like the combat expertise three

@trazyntheinfinite9895

5 жыл бұрын

ah.. rolling for tge 90+ in bg and iwd for an hour and still dump int, now that is min maxing.

@Wolfsspinne

5 жыл бұрын

I would draw the line based on the outcome. Litterally min/maxing means at least one stat at 7 (min) and at least one other stat at 18 (max). So if you end up with one stat at 7 and another at 18, then you min/maxed. If you end up with a 16/17 for the highest stat and an 8 for the lowest stat, then you definitely did not min/max.

"this is not min-maxing, this is optimizing..." :D

Ayy welcome back! :)

@darkfireslide

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Glad to see you back and making videos

Some very good info, thanks. I've never had a game it has taken me so long to get playing as there are so many choices, and I also realized you can make all 6 party members. The only things I still worry about are planning out the feats beforehand - in some cases you need certain stats or skills to be above a threshold to qualify for the feat.

I found this video incredibly helpful. Thank you.

Hey, it's been 3 years. But I just wanna say I love you man thanks for this

@darkfireslide

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, man

I think (This is just because of something I discovered while building my main character, which then made me scrap that character and re-build it) that armor stops you from being able to cast spells if you're an Echlesitheurge. Because I tried gaming the system to get the benefits of two domains *and* then pick armor proficiency feats to get my armor as well, and that greyed out all my spells. As I said, this is only something I saw with a level 1 character that I then immediately scrapped and re-rolled (My stat spread sucks by the way, since I had no idea I needed charisma to get bonus channeling, my cleric is pretty much a buff wagon that obliterates things with lightning and summoned undead, I picked the plant and animal domains, so I also have a boon companion as a flanking beast... =p)

Wish to see this video before I started out. Nice summary. Thanks

This was so helpful even 4years later thank you

Basically if you understand the D&D rule set you're good to go lol

@nickwilliams8302

5 жыл бұрын

Which is _almost_ the same as 3e D&D.

@bavettesAstartes

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, yeah. Some things are easier and better tho. I mean, 3 of my characters take dodge for goodness sake

@jayvis123111

5 жыл бұрын

unless he's talking about first or second edition having a layman's understanding of any of the other systems transfers over extremely well.

@orarinnsnorrason4614

5 жыл бұрын

If you know 3e/3.5e D&D rules you understand this game because Pathfinder is based on those rules.

Thank you for doing this, it was very helpful

"So the thing is"...this video is very informative for beginners. At an hour and a half though, you could have probably edited some of the improvisation out and cut the running time by at least thirty minutes if you had written a script, or at least a list for specific points. But anyway, still a good video. Thanks for taking the time to do it.

Great video mate, this really inspired me to give this game a go.

I know it's nearly a year later, but thank you for doing this. Thank you so much. I screwed up a Ranger build and your information was paramount in helping me learn both where I went wrong, but also why and how.

@goolabbolshevish1t651

4 жыл бұрын

He was right mostly. Persuasion is quite useful though for melee as with one point in the thug subclass you can cause all your melee critical hits to do an aoe fear that uses persuasion as it's roll check.

Really helpful content ^^ I'm pretty hyped to play this game but not sure whether to wait until more patches come out and for it to be on sale. Loved the older crpgs and the concept of the table top itself.

Piranha Strike is usually ineffective on a rogue, as when you miss you also lose your sneak attack damage. Rogues better focus on hitting instead of increasing damage (they rarely lack damage).

I got a half orc with 1 in archeologist bard and 5 in armor barbarian, what you think?

Thanks for your guides darkfire. You made this game 10 times more enjoyable for me with your comprehensive videos. :)

Thanks for this! Ive done the BG games but never any tabletop and never pathfinder so I have had a lot of struggles early esp w feats and other small areas! This cleared up a lot, I had resigned my current playthrough to just using a premade which was working but obv prefer to make my own and I feel better about that now.

Joe Rogue: "That's crazy man. Have you ever done DMT?"

@sirmonkey3215

4 жыл бұрын

Alchemist Bravo: "The world map is flat, look into it"

@Regularguy220

3 жыл бұрын

Mad Prophet: "I gotta be honest with you, I have a - 3 intelligence modifier

One thing I noticed you didn't mention. As a character levels up they get extra points to put in stats. (I've seen some posts saying 1 every 5 levels but I know it TT its every 4 levels for a total of 5) This is important because of how the stats advance. You get a +1 to the modifier of a stat at even numbers (Score 10 - 11 = +0; Score 12 - 13 + 1; Score 14 - 15 + 2, etc). So if you have a 18 STR score, you will NOT get a bonus to the MODIFIER until you spend 2 points (Level 8 by TT rules) in that skill. Where as, if you have a 17 STR score you will be able to get it to 18 by lvl 4 and get that extra. This is important because if the CRPG follows TT you will get a total of 5 increases. If you start a stat with an even number then that 1 extra point you get at level 20 will be nearly useless. Here is a chart - Level STR Modifier STR Modifier 1 17 +3 18 +4 4 18 +4 19 +4 8 19 +4 20 +5 12 20 +5 21 +5 16 21 +5 22 +6 20 22 +6 23 +6 This assumes you put all the bonus points into one stat and that the game doesn't have any major magic items that will perminantly boost a stat (like the tomes of knowledge in BG) So in the example fighter, you have all your "good" stats at even numbers which means that at least one of your bonus points will be nearly useless. (there are magic items that give you a +1 to a stat so its not a totally wasted point)

@ADT1995

Жыл бұрын

There's also to take into account that feats generally have odd stat prerequisites. So you actually do sometimes want a 15 in dex instead of 14 for example, or a 13 in int instead of 12. That's all build dependent but it's worth mentioning.

Thank you for the video, learned a lot

This video has been really helpful for me. I really recommend to take a look to this video for everyone who has no idea of what he is doing. Hope you keep doing more videos with different optimized classes recommendations like Paladin or the ones that are more complex to build. Thank you for the video!

Just a question: For spells like Acid Arrow or Ray of Fire (?) is it a good idea to take "Point Blank Shot" and "Precise Shot" with your spellcasters as well? Also, can someone elaborate why to take an uneven number on your attributes? It sounds pretty much like a wasted point if you have an attribute value of 13 instead of uping it to 14 or put in down to 12 to invest the point somewhere else?

I love this video, it is a perfect guide. At least it was for me. Thank you

Very helpful video. Thanks for making it.

What do you recommend for Grenadier and Sword Saint?

Thank you for this video, helped me understand pathfinder allot

gz on u for giving your time to make a video that long and helpfull to new and old players...well done friend

You did a good job, I enjoyed it.

Ur vid helps a lot for newbs to pthfinder, like me. I learnt alot from it. Who cares about the min maxing thing, what i care is how to survive the game in highest difficulties possible with whatever best builts i can get. Thank you.

Man, am I glad this video exist. Decided to restart Kingmaker the other day. And the advice you gave in this video helped quite a bit. Then again, my first character was pretty much made through the age old method of "Throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks, but unfortunately there was a fan in the way that blew the shit all over the place instead."

Do you still benefit from party skills during throne room meetings? For me it always looked like when there is noone in your party, the MC relies on his own skills. So a low int dwarf with low persuasion, knowledge and lore will fail a lot of "baron" rolls.

@zandilar630

5 жыл бұрын

FYI, if you hover your cursor over the skill check in the dialogue, it'll tell you which character it's using. For barony throne room stuff it's always the MC. So if you've got low persuasion, knowledge or other skill, you're going to fail the roll (ie: you're pretty much screwed).

Hey, just thought I'd say that I found your video helpful; it's useful to know what the best paths are for characters. I think my idea of min/maxing is pretty much the same as your idea of optimizing, but I don't see anything wrong with it as long as you're still having fun, and of course I can decide the extent to which I want to use your ideas or not.

Great guide. Thanks

Does pathfinder not let you use your Dexterity for damage in melee if you're using a light weapon?

Reduce person is only usable on friendly characters in this game; it is a net buff for Dex based characters, especially rogues where their weapon damage is incidental compared to their sneak attack damage.

I'm not exactly sure why "min-maxing" seems to have a negative connotation to you, or you feel the need to call it "optimizing", but the term min-maxing literally comes from minimizing some aspect that you don't care about to maximize an aspect that you do, which is exactly what you're doing here (and there's nothing wrong with that, especially in a computer game). Some people take issue to it in a role-playing game because the character is unrealistic in a world-view sense. Every fighter having a 7 intelligence and a 20 strength isn't very realistic and makes some people groan. However if you want to be the most effective fighter, that's likely how you're going to build them. Those that are opposed to min-maxing are also opposed to always making the most effective character. Min Maxing taken to extremes is something that's generally done in games that have a flaw system or some way to get more points, where you take any negative thing you can that won't have much impact to get better at the thing that you care about most on the character. For example, "I'll take color blind, no sense of smell, paranoia so I can get another +1 to hit and damage with my sword". In pathfinder your options are to tank certain stats you don't care about to maximize stats you do, and then select feats and class abilities that continue to further whatever your maximizing, and that is the definition of min-maxing (and again, nothing wrong with that).

thank you, this helps. this game is truly the grand kiddy of BG1 &2

Great video! Subscribed

Really wonderful video. Very informative and comprehensive

bro i just want to say great video, i learned alot, i started to play now and i was swiming in the dark abism, with this tabletop rules, i played Pillars of Eternity (and this is nothing compared to it, even though they share some rules) but seeing ure guid with the stats spreads, and feats helped me alot. Ty so much, and dont ,mind plebs saying ure "minmaxing" bla bla... great job :)

Really helpful, thanks!

As a pathfinder tabletop gamer I can confirm his statements about min-maxing are true. Pathfinder rule system is designed around the idea that character should have flaws. Min-maxing is when you build an Alchemist Ratfolk who has 4 claw attacks, a bite attack, a tail attack and a tentacle attack by level 6 resulting in the GM forcing you to retire a character because you’ve broken the game.

If you're not trying to make a fighter that uses trip, that +2 from going from 16 to 20 strength might be more than worth the points you need to spend to get there. From 16 to 18 takes 7 points, then the stat bonus. You do get that many points if you dump a stat but is it always worth it? I'm really not sure.

"Basics"...1½ hour video :-D

@gmfreeman4211

5 жыл бұрын

For this game. Yep, sounds about right.

@dimas3829

5 жыл бұрын

yeah, I need MOAR

@autowaaagh

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Pathfinder

@Soonzuh

4 жыл бұрын

That's what happens when you ramble instead of using a script.

How does spell focus work on buffs. Like could I give my cleric the conjuration spell focus to increase heals or not? Bc all it says it does is increase +1 to saves but says nothing of benefits for summoning or buffs. Mainly for Octavia has transmutation spell focus. Does that help her buffs like haste or bull strength?

@lillian7525

5 жыл бұрын

No. Spell Focus increases the difficulty for enemies trying to resist your spells. For Spell Focus: Transmutation, you'll want spells like Slow (Spell Level 3) and Pyrotechnics (Spell Level 2). Schools like Evocation, Enchantment, Illusion, and Necromancy benefit the most since they have more spells that give enemies a chance to resist. Spell Focus: Conjuration is good for Pit spells, but more importantly is a requirement for Augment Summoning which is a must-have for summoning builds.

@tokamnich4709

5 жыл бұрын

@@lillian7525 thank you, that helps alot. Big fan of magical characters in my games.

Aw man thank you so much - as a total PF newb, this was hugely helpful for getting my head around the system. Downside: now I gotta reroll my terribly optimized party....

@karimsonsafehold9233

5 жыл бұрын

Respec with mod

Very helpful video, thank you dark

I think it bares stating that you are cut off from other characters skills at key points in the game. You cant rely on strength that isnt your own.

Thanks for making this video! One question though: do you get attribute points through leveling up like in the DnD games?

@darkfireslide

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. One point every 4 levels.

I now have 3 hours /played in P:KM and I haven't left character creation. Finished the whole video. Excellent advice for a newbie like me coming from BG/IWD/Pillars/NWN

thank you so much for all the help now i finally understand what i have done wrong in all those years playing IWD2 and now this^^ 3rd DnD Rules arent confusing me anymore^^

17 or 19 in an Ability (attributes) is good at level 1, in the sense that you gain ability points at level 4, 8, etc. Anyhow, there are many options... (including Weapon Finesse that uses Dex). BUT *I fully agree that AC is really important.* Experienced players rarely have over 14 Con., which is telling. nb: When role-playing on a table, having low Charisma means you should try to act accordingly. It can be a conceptual choice in this video game, but you are right that your companions can do the Persuasion (I think). From what I have seen, the game is very combat focused, so your video will help many.

@ADT1995

Жыл бұрын

I built my first character based off my TT Pathfinder 1e character (although not a carbon copy, partially because of rules changes in the conversion from TT to CRPG and partially because we rolled for stats instead of using a point buy), so my character has a much higher charisma than she should. Because well in tabletop play it's not always the most persuasive or the most intimidating character making the check... And also I like roleplaying (and combat, they aren't mutually exclusive) so I tend to make builds which are competent, but not necessarily optimized, because I very well might have a decent cha and 7 ranks in diplomacy as a fighter, I might want to have a good (well passable) knowledge (dungeoneering) skill, and a few ranks in disable device just in case our rogue is not in a position to do it or is really low on HP. Still my kingmaker character was not a carbon copy, so in the CRPG version she's more combat focused and less versatile. Also in TT games you have a DM to adjust encounters, the CRPG is going to assume you built your character primarily for combat prowess and secondarily also for combat, which isn't a bad thing necessarily, but definitely something to consider

Wish I had guides like this when I was 10 trying to get through "The temple of Elemental Evil"...

@Soonzuh

4 жыл бұрын

You had gamefaqs-dot-com back then and it was far better than 99% of the guides on youtube. How often do you see "ahh... mmm... very-very great" in a written guide? The video aspect of YT guides is great but it's wasted without a solid, well thought out script.

I have a question I can't find by googling. I'm in character creation, making a gnome sorcerer with arcane bloodline, and one of the options for the spell focus feat is universalist. Is that a bug? 'Cause the way it's worded is that I get +1 DC for the school I select, and the wording doesn't change depending on what I select.

@darkfireslide

5 жыл бұрын

So, it isn't a bug, some spells are universal, but that would be a horrid option because so few spells belong to that school.

@TeaLobster

5 жыл бұрын

Oh shit, good to know. Many thanks.

Im glad Your back

Excellent guide.

Great guide thanks :)

There is a reason that the half-orc's orc ferocity ability has been coined as "Orc Stupidity" in the Pathfinder community. Fight as though disabled means you only get 1 action. Pulling out a potion is 1 action. Drinking a potion is 1 action. Doing both takes 2 actions, which orc stupidity does not allow you to do. Unless you can cast a healing spell, you're going to drop, but odds are you're in this position because there's someone smashing your face in, and they're unlikely to stand there and let you do that. Orc stupidity is for gm's to scare their players with an enemy that soaks up more damage than they should and can still attack before falling over dead.

@darkfireslide

5 жыл бұрын

Admittedly, in Kingmaker you can still act normally.

For my first fighter (I played TT but this was my first character in kingmaker) I had my ability scores as 17, 15, 12, 10, 10? 14 (I can't remember if wisdom was a 10 or a 12, hence the question mark) I don't recommend new players go with a 12 constitution, that's what I did, like to drop constitution to the lowest level I can get away with. I wouldn't recommend putting your constitution above 14 if you are trying to be optimal, though I don't recommend necessarily doing what I tend to do and have a max of 12 as a frontliner and a 7 or 8 if I'm not in the frontline, depending on how well my class can disengage. I should have had higher wisdom than charisma for truly being optimal, but I was basing this character off of my actual tabletop character. Also I completely agree with you on min-maxing vs optimizing, min-maxing (which I've always called power gaming) where someone is intentionally trying to break the game and to feel like they beat the DM has always been one of my pet peeves... But equally annoying and game breaking is the guy who is making a character who is not competent. You don't have to take the absolute optimal choice at every level, but build a character who contributes to the party.

Great video even 3 years on. Cheers

@darkfireslide

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Ok I just bought the game and have played a little of pillars of eternity 1-2 but I'm still confused how to make a druid who uses animal companions and such, can someone help me please.

@darkfireslide

3 жыл бұрын

Druid animal companion scaling is automatic so you don't have to put any feats into it, just use spells as you level up that boost your companion--you'll see which ones they are, stuff like Magic Fang for example. If you want lots of friends in combat, I'd take the feats Spell Focus (Conjuration), Augment Summoning, and Superior Summoning so your Summon Nature's Ally spells are as strong as they can be. Remember you can convert any memorized spell to a Summon Nature's Ally spell whenever you'd like.

thx for the vid! helped a lot!

Very helpful guide, thank you. Any chance of doing a guide on a sword saint, I am curious to see whether you would recommend a str of dex emphasis?

@karimsonsafehold9233

5 жыл бұрын

Usually armor of bracers then stack int dex for more ac. Then cast a shield spell and the ac should be about 30, which is the ac of druid pets at lvl 7. Because it buffs itself with str or dex spells, and saint wears light or no armor, the dex itself can go pretty high. If it reaches a cap, then 12 or 14 str base is enough. The higher dex int is better for initiative. Casting spells first or attacking flat footed enemies. After that use saint dex bonus for touch spells, while buffing str. A sword saint monk combo with crane....

I love this game so far. Started my video early this morning. First "take" I recorded for 3 hours. lol I redid it and got it down to under an hour and a half. This got me through character creation AND a decent way into the tutorial. Things people who don't play this game, or read up on FEATS, will always have a harder time than people who do read up on the rules. Take Linzi (I think I spelled that right) and her LAME crossbow skills on Normal and up difficulty. Not having Point Blank Shot hurts; not having Precise Shot is down right crippling. That -4 To Hit when firing into a target in melee screws over the harder difficulty Let's Plays. Her missing was brutal in Coh's run early on. EXPECT to save scum a bit, even if you are familiar with the game. RNG is real and it is brutal sometimes. I don't mind it. It's only a real problem if I haven't saved lately. Great "basics" video man.

I feel the need to make a gif with the scene of the Empire Strikes Back when the Millenium Falcon's hyperdrive doesn't work and Lando screams "It's not my fault!" but changing the line to "It's not min-maxing, it's optimizing!". :P Nice guide. I made my character already, without optimizing but by RP decisions (obviously with a bit of thought not to sacrifice too much eficiency) and it's going well. I don't agree with the protests of the game being too hard; I do love it because I found one example in which I'm sure people are frothing in rage because your 4 man party is against more than 20 enemies, but where the key is thinking in character, with the strategical considerations someone would make with in universe knowledge and not based on mechanics. You go with that and it's actually a rather easy fight. It's actually a timed your four party members against one tough guy. If anything the issue there is not difficulty, but that maybe the room is enough telling of what it is and the key guy is quite far from the entrance, so it's too unlikely you can actually think the solution as you open the door. I don't think there being a door is enough, unless there's some piece of lore about the programming language (avoiding spoilers :P) species in Pathfinder that I don't know (this game is the first pathfinder thing I get my hands in, so I don't really know specifics about races and such, though I assume FORTRAN is similar to Forgotten Realms).

Thank you for this. I've actually never played a game like this before so you've helped a lot

@Trifler500

5 жыл бұрын

If you play any of the AD&D games, you'll see the same thing, since Pathfinder is based on AD&D.

Great presentation for someone new to DnD Type RPGs.

The difficulty is great, it's been a while since I've had my arse handed to me by a game

@LordOfTec

5 жыл бұрын

lol

Really great video!!. thanks alot! haven't seen something like this since Baldur's Gate which is the one of all times best games

Loved the vid. TYVM! Will, you would talk about druid and sorcerer in detail like you did the rest?

Dazzling display into shatter defenses is a great feat tree so a charismatic fighter can actually make use of that to set up shatter defenses, far better to debuff tons of enemies than get a charge attack off late game.

Great info exactly what I was looking for, not new to DnD but new to pathfinder I wanted to know how the stats work when building characters. Worst is having to reload because you messed up from creation!

There are so many feats my head hurts looking at them

I so join you on the charisma being a waste on a class that doesn't need it. I often build my characters with roleplay in mind but in video games (baldur's gate, neverwinter nights, etc) I try to justify taking charisma by using a class that needs it or I don't use it at all. I started playing kingmaker this month for the first time. I made a druid feyspeaker, so charisma all the way. Well most of my friends in my group have high charisma and high persuasion so I can't stop myself from feeling that I wasted this. I am sure that I will be able to change later (I don't know, I am still discovering the story) but for now, all those guys have high charisma and high persuasion, and of course high wisdom and high perception, which I upped with a feat because I thought "since my druid has less wisdom, maybe it's important to still have perception, right?" Right?

Hi, can I ask you if bard archaelogist is any good and if so, how to make it work ? Nice video btw :)