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Patagonia Mini MLC 30L Review (2022-2024 Version) - Patagonia's best bag got even better

NOTE: Since making my video, Patagonia's website changed the pack from 26L to 30L! This appears to be a calculation error ONLY, as the dimensions haven't changed, just the advertised capacity.
To Backpack or to Duffel, that is the question. Luckily, the 2022 Mini MLC 30L is convertible pack that excels at both. You won't find a better convertible pack at this size. Period. This bag earned top spot as my favorite bag....maybe ever.
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  • @FoghornWashington
    @FoghornWashington Жыл бұрын

    This video covered absolutely everything without being a second longer than it needed to be. Kudos.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I try to be informative and concise. Ain't trying to waste peoples time too much.

  • @rnak4524
    @rnak45242 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Couldn't have asked for better detailed review of this bag! I was on the fence but you convinced me to upgrade

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @pdxtechy
    @pdxtechy Жыл бұрын

    I bought this bag today at Patagonia store. I love it ! Very comfortable in backpack mode. I was able to fit my thinkpad which measures 15.4" diagonally and about 1" thick in laptop sleeve very snug and protected. Highly recommend !!!

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to Hear, Scott. Glad you enjoy!

  • @ariannali9
    @ariannali92 жыл бұрын

    Was so happy to see a review on the updated model! Thanks for being so ahead of the game. :)

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Arianna, I actually didn’t even know this thing came out until someone commented on my other video. But got lucky and snagged one before it sold out.

  • @mrbjay5443
    @mrbjay544311 ай бұрын

    just picked one up. Here's the scoop! I sent a bag into Patagonia in for repair.They said it would take 3 hours so instead they gave me $55 for store credit. I called them up and they told me a similar bag to mine was the 30L MCL bag. I didn't have to pay the difference of the $150. On Patagonia! I've been with Patagonia since their inception and they know I've purchased thousands of dollars from them over the decades. I was thrilled beyond belief. I'll get the new bag in a few days. I know I'll love it. video shows me what's coming. Thank you

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    11 ай бұрын

    Thats awesome! I actually haven't had to use their repair service yet (knock on wood), but glad to hear that their policy is the best in the game! I also just released a video covering Patagonia's new black hole packs, if you're interested. Though in short, this MLC is better than both of them.

  • @recobadota9571
    @recobadota9571 Жыл бұрын

    I almost contacted Patagonia for my missing shoulder strap. Thank god I found your video 😂

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Hah right!? I was so confused

  • @jasecola
    @jasecola Жыл бұрын

    I really wish they made something between their current26L and 45L offerings. 45 is too big, but 26 is just too small for extended travel. Something around 33, 34 or 35L and this would be my perfect 1 bag travel backpack.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea I agree, that would be great. I know that 45L is the size many companies offer as a “travel bag”. But Im very skeptical that any non-wheeled 45L sells better than a 35L. I’ve had a fully packed out Tortuga 35L and that shit was waaaay to heavy. Can’t imagine what a 45 feels like. Agree, 32-35L would be great.

  • @tessxxwhoaa

    @tessxxwhoaa

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. But I think it’s because 26L is exactly airplane personal item size while 45L is exactly carry on. I honestly wish they’d have compression straps.

  • @ankjaers

    @ankjaers

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tessxxwhoaa the new 45L does have compression straps

  • @arguchik

    @arguchik

    Жыл бұрын

    As you probably saw, they have corrected the volume calculation on this bag to 30 liters. They also have the Black Hole at 32 liters, but I agree 100% that it would be *super* nice to have this bag in a slightly larger size, like 33-35 liters. I really like the more understated aesthetic of this bag compared to the Black Hole, which still has that shiny material and more "tricked out" appearance with all the webbing, etc.

  • @reframepodcast

    @reframepodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    This is literally a review of the 30L.

  • @Mattzerfyer
    @Mattzerfyer2 жыл бұрын

    I really like this upgrade. I'll be adding this backpack to my collection. Thanks for the review!

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks Matthew, yep its great. Unfortunately looks like it sold out already.

  • @Jorge-lm4bg
    @Jorge-lm4bg5 ай бұрын

    This is the most comprehensive review and I’m sold thanks! Gonna use this for short trips and daily as a gym bag to bring to the office

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    5 ай бұрын

    Love comments like this! Thanks so much for it , sounds like a good use case

  • @P.Paramo
    @P.Paramo Жыл бұрын

    I love it. Only thing that makes me go toward other brands like Pakt is the huge humongous Patagonia letters. I refuse to be a walking ad.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea I’m can’t argue with that. It really is a minus and I wish I could get rid of it.

  • @viponkasongo
    @viponkasongo5 сағат бұрын

    Thanks for the review, helps a lot!

  • @RohainArora
    @RohainArora Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your observation about the Backpack to Duffel Ratio. In addition, to the constructive criticism of the bottle pouch being at the bottom of the bag as opposed to the top.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! yep I just try to call it like I see it, and explain hings that you only really notice after using it.. Glad you found it helpful.

  • @namcanguyen8781
    @namcanguyen8781 Жыл бұрын

    I bought this since I read that if it isn't packed absolutely full that it can pass as a personal item/under the seat bag to pair with a carry on roller. Just got it yesterday and test packed it and honestly might not even need the roller with how well it packs 😂

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s great to hear! It’s an awesome bag for sure

  • @marcelokunze7711
    @marcelokunze77112 жыл бұрын

    I just ordered mine after seeing this :D Checks all my boxes for an EDC/Gym bag! I’m living in Portugal, and its still available under Patagonia EU

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help Marcelo. Very lucky! In the US it sold out like less than a week, though they’ll be restocking soon. Yep it’s a great bag.

  • @riannes.4164
    @riannes.4164 Жыл бұрын

    Just want to say what an amazing and informative video! I used to own the old MLC in the purple Color which I loved so much! But unfortunately it got stolen and I can’t find the purple one anymore 😢 I’m now on a search for this newer version and there is a couple things I kinda wish they kept. I’m with you with the old material, I love the “plastic” look especially with the purple. I prefer the old book style opening since this new opening look like it’s gonna need more space to open fully. I would miss the old front pocket as that’s where I use to keep things that I need easy access to and plus the secondary pocket from the older version gave so many organizations. But I understand Patagonia is going for a more minimalist look and the top pocket is a good compromise in a way… but given the capacity of the pocket goes into the bigger compartment that lessens the possibilities I can put in the top compartment. I do love the new integrated waist/shoulder strap! Since with the old one I kept misplacing it. Water bottle compartment is a must! I used to just hang my water bottle on the daisy chain on the front but I just hope this new mesh compartment is going to fit my yet rambler. Overall I’ll probably still get it because I really do miss my old MLC 😢thank you for making this amazing and informative video! Have a great one! 🇨🇦

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the awesome comment, always like a detailed comment. Sorry for your loss, getting stuff stolen is the worst. A few thoughts of my own after using the bag more. - Material is still a mixed opinion after I've casually asked family and friends. My wife owns the old version so sometimes I still use hers hah - Book style opening....is better. I don't love the pocket orientation on the old one, but I do miss that for the reason you stated...less room needed to open. - top pocket on the old one is good if you used it. I found myself not missing it, but agreed on the larger capacity being nice. this new organization in the laptop compartment is slim. - Strap and bottle pocket are the best, I just wish it was slightly larger.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kerijin holy grail bag is right!

  • @IntriguedLioness
    @IntriguedLioness Жыл бұрын

    First time on your channel but the title caught my eye! I actually hated both the design and the material of the V2 MLC. I have my original V1 and in fact I purchased a backup on closeout. I'm surprised you didn't address the MLC not standing for MAXIMUM legal carry-on.. I could never understand why Patagonia insisted on using the "MLC" in this size as it's not really a personal item and obviously not maximum carry on either. I'm minimalistic so I would have been fine without the hip belt on a 26L, but I'm glad it is interchangeable as a duffel carry strap. Also could do without the water bottle holder as to me, it's just one more thing to snag if I'm trying to slide it into an overhead bin. I definitely give it to Patagonia to listen to its feedback so I'm sure some of that was taken into account with this redesign. _Great review on this bag!Happy travels!_

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome and thanks for the comment. Just to clarify, is this version the V2 and the 2020 version the V1? I know they made different models even before the 2020 one, but I didnt have those. And yea, the material and look is personal preference for sure. Like you said, the ability to choose whether to use the hip strap or not is great! Question, if you were to use this as the only bag, where would you put the bottle? I got some comments that said, caribiner it to a handle.....nah thats asking for trouble.

  • @THSV275
    @THSV2755 ай бұрын

    The bare nylon on the back of the bag is likely to last longer than the laminated TPU on the other sections. I'd actually love to see less laminated areas, overall.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    5 ай бұрын

    Yea, functionally it is improvement, probably why they did it becuase I did see complaints about delamination..

  • @socaljoe
    @socaljoe Жыл бұрын

    Great video! The best on this bag! i returned the Refugio for this bag as I prefer the flexibility of the flip top because I carry a lot of camera gear, including a drone , and the ability to quickly access the main compartment by the flip top saves so much time through airport security (especially in Europe). This would be my personal item and the plan is to put this under my seat. I generally don't need to access it once in my seat or if I do, it would be for ear buds or phone battery, etc.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment! Appreciate it. Yea it’s definitely better than the Refugio for more complex traveling. I feel you, I do the same with a drone and camera gear. Have you travelled with it on European Airlines? I’ve never been, but have heard that EU airlines are stricter than in the states.

  • @socaljoe

    @socaljoe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG no tsa pre check so all electronics need to come out of the bag. Camera gear is fine. The flip top should expedite the process. Also the small liquids need to be in a separate clear bag - I think they need to come out too but I don’t remember - maybe someone can clarify. Bag is Christmas gift to myself

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@socaljoe ah ok, I was actually wondering about the size limits. Have you ever been stopped to measure the bag size on an EU airline?

  • @jgsk78
    @jgsk78 Жыл бұрын

    This is perfection if it stands upright.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    It actually almost does! It’s kind of squared off at the bottom and has enough structure to almost stand upright

  • @gabriellesuycano8284
    @gabriellesuycano82842 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Thanks for the review👍🏼

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks comment!

  • @emiwelschinger7237
    @emiwelschinger72372 ай бұрын

    is this bag an overkill for everyday carry? I like all the features and I want to invest in a bag that's both my EDC and my Personal item but I do not know if it'd be too heavy and too travel oriented for a normal day at the office + carrying around groceries

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 ай бұрын

    Hmm, it’s reallly close. It compresses pretty flat which is good, but it is largely square, which may be a bit large on your back. But at 30L, i guess it could be used everyday. What your looking for is probably something around 20L

  • @TheSmiaf
    @TheSmiaf Жыл бұрын

    Really prefer the other black hole material and look more... Comfort is important but looks too😄. Gonna get the 40 L.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean the old one? Yea me too. The 40L duffel has the old style and it’s a good choice. It’s just a normal duffel.

  • @TheSmiaf

    @TheSmiaf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG yeah that one! The material makes it standout from others.

  • @marcsaludesgallego6272
    @marcsaludesgallego6272 Жыл бұрын

    Hey! I loved your review! Recently I bought a The North Face Borealis (the new version) and I was kinda happy with it, till I noticed some flaws that make me go mad. The bag, when not fully filled, gets a really weird shape, the upper part projects to the exterior while the bottom stays somehow compressed. It looks like an Among Us character XD. I really love the aesthetic of the Borealis (I got it in a black, cream and orange color), but hate this bulky head thing. Also, I found it difficult to access all my stuff, since it ends up piling up badly in the interior. Thus I decided to go for the MLC but.. here are some things that are making me kinda hesitant: I love the rigid padded back support in the borealis, while the Patagonia's looks too flexible and makes me believe it will be uncomfortable when I wear all my College (architecture) supplies. Also, I cannot find this version in the EU market, but I think I will look for a second hand 26l version. Love the satin materials and the organizer pockets on the front! I need help? Is there someone who had tried both The North Face and Patagonia back support/arness systems? Would you recommend the switch?? Thaanks

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Marc, thanks for the comment, love the enthusiasm and critical review of your bag. I think I can help, I've tried both. they're 2 very different bags, the borealis is a true backpack while this MLC is a hybrid. So the borealis will be more comfortable. That being said, the MLC isn't "uncomfortable". It has a flexible back padding, but it has more structure than you think because the back panel is the separate laptop compartment....it's not just the main compartment resting against your back. For your use case, using it for college, Id probably recommend sticking with the Borealis unless you'll take advantage of the MLC's hybrid carry...like do you think you would ever use duffel mode? In case those don't work, I've reviewed a bunch of other bags on the channel that may fit your needs. Cheers!

  • @marcsaludesgallego6272

    @marcsaludesgallego6272

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Thank you for your answer! I won't be using the duffle mode that much - just for traveling every since. But I would take profit of the clamshell opening a lot. I save things in pouches (wires, craft tools, pencil case,...). And also have an A5 notebook . I'm still a bit confused, but i will think about your recommendation. Thanks! Let's watch those other videos :)

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcsaludesgallego6272 Yea for sure. Ok, if youre going for the clamshell opening, I totally get it. Also some of Aer's packs are great. Its a bit more expensive but they're as comfortable and protective as the Borealis, look amazing, and will do that the Patagonia does. Let me know what you end up choosing!

  • @carmenflo4778
    @carmenflo47782 ай бұрын

    considering switching to this as my one bag carry over my 35L Cotopaxi

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 ай бұрын

    oo, both great picks. What makes you think of switching?

  • @carmenflo4778

    @carmenflo4778

    2 ай бұрын

    @@EDG i love the switch to duffle that the patagonia MLC has! its design seems more thoughtful and module, plus i love the laptop case. although i do love the Cotopaxi, i dont love the weight but it feels sturdy to send as a checked bag when i can.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 ай бұрын

    @@carmenflo4778 yea for sure. I really liked this MLC

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 ай бұрын

    @@carmenflo4778 yep ! I love the MLC

  • @litasciturro-smith4106
    @litasciturro-smith4106 Жыл бұрын

    I wish they had put load lifters on the backpack straps like the Osprey Porter 30 has.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely, huge fan of Ospreys strap design in general. My Osprey transporter is the comfiest pack I have.

  • @RocketRacerESM
    @RocketRacerESM Жыл бұрын

    Hi! Thank you for your review. it’s been a couple months, do you have a preference between this new version and the old?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    hi thanks for the comment. I still think this one gets the edge, but less than before. I like the larger capacity and more backpack-oriented features. But I still like the look of the previous and how it opens sideways. Thinking of picking one up?

  • @JesseMrozowski
    @JesseMrozowski Жыл бұрын

    Is this 26l small enough to fit under airline seats or is it strictly in the overhead comparement?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm not familiar with Eurorpean Airline sizing, but I've heard they are stricter so not sure if it fits there. But for US airlines, it fits.

  • @ladyinblack1964
    @ladyinblack1964 Жыл бұрын

    Great review! I like the new exterior better than the "plastic bag look." I'm considering buying this as a carryon. I will also check a spinner bag and as a personal item, I have a backpack that's foldable.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks for the comment! Yea the look is a 50:50 split haha, some love the new look , some like the old. I think this is a really great carry on!

  • @LHans101
    @LHans101 Жыл бұрын

    Great review! I don't like how they move the computer accessory pockets to the laptop sleeves compartment, if the bag is compressed, the chunky accessories like power adapter or key may damage the laptop

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yea I agree. That hasn’t happened to me yet, but I do wish I mentioned that in the review.

  • @JW77
    @JW77 Жыл бұрын

    This is a really good looking backpack. How does the hip strap stow away? What's the purpose of the loops above and below the water bottle holder?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi JW, thanks for the question. Watch 2:14 in the video for the hip strap question. It doesn't stow away, you can just remove it and put it in a different pocket. For the loops above and below the bottle, those are just anchor points to latch a carabiner or other small items onto it, since technically it is an "outdoor pack. Can also run small bungee cables through them to secure it down.

  • @HelloTasjimodo
    @HelloTasjimodo Жыл бұрын

    I love the old glossy look. Can you tell me if that material gets hot in the sun?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea me too. It doesn’t get too hot

  • @HelloTasjimodo

    @HelloTasjimodo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG thanks for replying. now I'm on the hunt for one.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HelloTasjimodo yep good luck. I know they’re sold out for a while in the US

  • @Franciscodecasa
    @Franciscodecasa Жыл бұрын

    does the hip belt release weight when fully charged? it seems to be "dancing" into the holes... instead of supporting the bag...

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, it does support the weight . Thanks for the question.

  • @tneipastset605
    @tneipastset605 Жыл бұрын

    awesome video. is this the black color or Smolder Blue? Do you have any concerns with how much weight the bag can carry in backpack mode with the buckle straps?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks so much. this is the black. Nope, I dont really have concerns about the weight. At 26L it won't get too heavy unless youre carrying multiple electronics or something. ANdf the hip strap and chest strap do fine in helping distribute the weight.

  • @e4Pikachu
    @e4Pikachu Жыл бұрын

    Can these fit a pair of shoes? Would it have to be in the large bucket side? Or can fit on the split pocket side?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the question. It’s an easily fit multiple pairs of shoes, but it would have to be in the large bucket side. The split pocket size has almost no dimension second hole, charging cables or maybe a shirt or two flat things.

  • @johnjamesnicholasstark7158
    @johnjamesnicholasstark7158 Жыл бұрын

    Great review! What do you think would be good uses for those four loop attachment points on the front?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks John! you can bungie cord across to strap down something light like a jacket or something instead of putting the wet clothes inside the pack. That's probably the best used. They seem kind of strong, but I wouldn't trust it to hold a full hydro flask or anything. Another use....a bag tag holder!

  • @danielgallo91
    @danielgallo91 Жыл бұрын

    I want the glossy black material!

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    team glossy material all the way. I'm with ya

  • @zhixunwang4311
    @zhixunwang43112 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review! The exterior dimensions of this bag are pretty similar to black hole 32L, but with 6L less claimed capacity. So how is its actual carrying capacity compared to black hole 32L?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s definitely smaller in width. This Bag is flatter. It does hold less but it’s a boy hard to judge because it has the dedicated laptop compartment that takes some space. So to use the bag to it’s fullest, you have to stuff really flat items into the laptop space. Overal though, it’s a better size. Smaller, more comfortable straps, a hip strap c and a better shape to carry.

  • @shitoutan4801
    @shitoutan4801 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I’m comparing this bag with Peak Design TRAVEL BACKPACK 30L, which do you guys think is better?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Shitou, thanks for the love! I love Peak Design, they were actually one fo the first bags that got me into this.....but I'm not a huge fan of their 30L travel pack. The back opening is odd to me, and it's weird that the pockets are covered when its packed. I think if you were to get this Patagonia, you can combine it with either a smaller daypack, or a larger carry=on (like the Peak design travel pack 45L), just for some variety. I reviewed some other bags of those categories if you're interested. Does that help answer your question?

  • @vaugm06
    @vaugm06 Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know where I could find additional anchors that are depicted at 1:33? I don't know what they're called, so don't know where I could order them.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    not that I know of. Patagonia is the only packs I've seen that use these clips.

  • @bjc2430
    @bjc2430 Жыл бұрын

    Great review. You feel like the handle that doubles as a pass through will fit over most brands of luggage handles? I have an Away bigger carry on.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks for the comment! Yes, it definitely will. The handle is wide so it'll fit over basically everything. I have a Monos carry on, which is basically Away's copy, and I use this with the Monos every time.

  • @Johnnyhaag79
    @Johnnyhaag794 ай бұрын

    how much does it weigh without the waist strap?????

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    4 ай бұрын

    9 oz less

  • @liamlindy
    @liamlindy Жыл бұрын

    Wow this is a great redesign!

  • @liamlindy

    @liamlindy

    Жыл бұрын

    Not cheap tho

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@liamlindy Indeed it is. I think the price increase was more so due to supply chain increase. I've noticed other brands increasing their prices. I hope it wasn't just a $30 price increase out of nowhere. That would be disappointing.

  • @jooky5
    @jooky54 ай бұрын

    Great that they added the bottle pocket! Think it’d fit a 1L yeti?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    4 ай бұрын

    Hmm, yea it should

  • @jooky5

    @jooky5

    4 ай бұрын

    @@EDG thx

  • @julienyuen
    @julienyuen2 жыл бұрын

    great review! can u do a one for the 45l version?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the comment Julien. Unfortunately, I don't have plans to buy the 45, but it looks essentially the same. just larger and the laptop pocket opens sideways instead. the 45 looks kinda weird tho...the top looks like it should be the bottom.

  • @adriennerasband2583
    @adriennerasband2583 Жыл бұрын

    Would you prefer this bag or the black hole 32l for a weekend travel one bag?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Adrienne, this bag for sure. Especially for one bag travel.

  • @adriennerasband2583

    @adriennerasband2583

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG thanks for the response! That’s what I was leaning towards so that’s good to know.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@adriennerasband2583 of course, thanks for the comment. Glad I could help.

  • @jpearlman27
    @jpearlman27 Жыл бұрын

    Hey! Great video(s)... I'm looking for a larger backpack for travel with my family. It needs to double as a laptop bag and have ample space for everything we need on a plane. tall order :) ... I'm debating between the Mini MLC 30L and the BlackHole Backpack 32L . I've seen your videos on both, do you have a preference or recommendation?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jeffrey, thanks for the compliment and the question. I prefer this MLC for sure. It has the far superior laptop protection, waaay easier packing style (the 32 is a top loader? While this MLC opens suitcase style), and still has a bottle pocket , which is usually missing on packs like this. Hope this helps! The advantage of the black hole 32 I suppose, is if you’re looking to use it specifically on air airplane, then that black hole is a normal backpack so you can stand it upright or have it by your feet and open it up to access stuff. Where as this MLC you kind of can’t see things inside id the bag is vertical. Hope that helps!

  • @jpearlman27

    @jpearlman27

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG really appreciate the quick response. It sounds like it can, but does the MLC 30L fit under the seat in front of you (on a plane)? I see what you're saying about accessing it upright, but I do need something that doesn't need to go in overhead storage. I'm leaning MLC - the ample organization pockets are what's making me lean that way.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jpearlman27 yea, both the MLC and 32 will fit under the seat enough where a flight attendant won’t say anything. If anything, the 32 fits under the seat a little worse, because it’s taller and more slender so it sticks out towards your feet a bit more. The MLC sounds like the way to go 👌

  • @johnnyg8782
    @johnnyg8782 Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully I missed it, but no side compression straps? Meaning that if you don't pack it full, the contents, and the bag itself, is going to jostle around... If it doesn't have them, literally would not buy it (but LOVE it otherwise!).

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    No, it doesn’t have compression straps. But it’s a pretty Slim pack to begin with. So there isn’t too much to compress unless the bag is like empty.

  • @johnnyg8782

    @johnnyg8782

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Man... that stinks (thanks for letting me know though!). It also stinks for the people who overpack too... this bag is 7" deep... many airlines limit is 7.87"/20cm deep (Icelandair for example) and it's SUPER easy to blow-out to over that, especially with no compression straps. Those super common people WILL at some point find that one authoritarian airport worker and be told no soup for you... go to the checked-luggage line...

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnnyg8782 hah, yea 100% that will happen. It’s always exciting to see your luck of the draw on airline agents. Sometimes they’ll let it slide, and sometimes they’ll come down with the iron fist. Luckily, the bag is flexible and can be smashed down a little to fit (hopefully).

  • @fern6902
    @fern6902 Жыл бұрын

    Great review! I’m thinking about getting this bag as my personal item. However, it’s listed at 20 inches and most cheap airlines in Europe only allow for 18 inches. I was wondering if the bag was rigid or if it would allow to squeeze in the 2 extra inches. Thanks!

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. The sides are a little rigid, though it should be able to compact by 2 inches. It doesn’t have a plastic shell or anything. It’s much closer to the feel of a backpack than a suitcase. The top is very flexible so the bag and be squished flat.

  • @BrianOReilly
    @BrianOReilly Жыл бұрын

    How large is the bottle pocket? Can it hold a 32oz Hydroflask?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    No, it can't hold a 32oz hydro flask. It can fit maybe a 21oz.

  • @jaschawalter3500
    @jaschawalter35002 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Did they also upgrade the full size MLC?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jascha, yea they did. It’s similar to this one except the laptop compartment is sideways and the outside looks different

  • @GPG7754
    @GPG7754 Жыл бұрын

    Almost perfect except too much branding. Nobody has ever said "I wish the brand was written in giant font across the front". Totally ruins it for me. Take it from AER. Less branding is more.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea agreed, Patagonia’s branding is always large, and this one especially has more visible branding.

  • @IanSkelley

    @IanSkelley

    Жыл бұрын

    Thinking of spraying that logo with plastidip.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IanSkelley What does that do? Protect the logo?

  • @IanSkelley

    @IanSkelley

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Plasti dip Spray can be used to cover and seal things....and it can be peeled off if need be.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IanSkelley ahhh ok, that would be good.

  • @tmondson619
    @tmondson619 Жыл бұрын

    Will this fit in Frontier or Spirit Personal item? Wish the would have made the dimension to fit some of these airlines. Frontier personal item bags must be this 8 x 18 x 14 inches (depth x width x height). Too bad they dont have compression straps to allow it to expand. Nice looking bag tho

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    ehh, its close. I've flown on both spirit and frontier but when I do, I purposely pack this thing less os it'll compress. Only 1 time did I get stopped and have to get it sized but it was good. Really depends on the front desk person and how stingy they want to be.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kerijin thanks!

  • @AarianPAleahmad93
    @AarianPAleahmad93 Жыл бұрын

    How thick are the shoulder straps and hip belts? Does it have a suspension frame like Osprey ozone duplex 65?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    The shoulder straps are 2.25" thick, the shoulder strap is just a bit wider. It does not have a suspension frame since it's only a 30L pack so never gets too heavy. thanks for the question, Aarian.

  • @suenchiho
    @suenchiho Жыл бұрын

    The big logo is the deal breaker to me.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea , can’t argue with that. Got other comments about that too. Definitely wish it was smaller.

  • @Jen12Keeshou
    @Jen12Keeshou Жыл бұрын

    hi, quick question. i know it says online the dimension of the Patagonia MLC is 20×12×7. if the bag is not full, would you say it is possible to make it fit in the airplane restriction (17x13x6)? is it "soft" and "foldable"? Thanks

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jen, thanks for the question. Yes, I’d say it’s soft enough to compress 3” to make the size requirement, provided it’s not fully packed.

  • @JuanTamames
    @JuanTamames Жыл бұрын

    is this your favourite commuter bag-pack ? or the Black Hole 25L? or any other brand?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    What do you mean by commuter back pack? Like one I use everyday? I would say that this Patagonia backpack is my favorite travel backpack, but the favorite one I use everyday is my Osprey Transporter 20L (I also reviewed that one). It's smaller, more of a backpack and far less expensive than this Patagonia.

  • @JuanTamames

    @JuanTamames

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG yes I mean like a daily bac-pack that I can use in the city to carry my laptop while I’m biking around

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JuanTamames Ok, yea check out the Osprey Transporter 20L. I got it for like $90 USD on sale, and it's perfect. I also like biking to work so I carry a laptop, and this bag is waterproof, super comfortable, and has a latch for a bike light. Let me know what you think! Another option are the cheaper Aer backpacks.

  • @JuanTamames

    @JuanTamames

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Thank you :)

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JuanTamames yea no problem

  • @smaao
    @smaao Жыл бұрын

    Is this a personal item bag or carry on bag? I'm looking for a personal item bag to take with my cabin suitcase

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Depending on the airline, it can be both. I fly in the US, and I use this as a personal and suitcase as my carryon. But for EU airlines, this will barely qualify as a carry-on if you compress it a bit.

  • @smaao

    @smaao

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG thank you

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smaao yep, no problem!

  • @spacehoppity3127
    @spacehoppity3127 Жыл бұрын

    So if you had to pick between this and the 32l black hole as your one bag for travel, which would you choose?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    I’d pick this for sure. It’s far more versatile, has more organization and is better for travel. The advantages of the 32 is pretty minor - Lower price, if you like the looks better, dual bottle pockets, and more anchor points. Do you like using packing cubes?

  • @spacehoppity3127

    @spacehoppity3127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG I guess the main benefit of the black hole 32 is the weight saving, it's around 300g lighter. Is it noticeable to you if you pick them up?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spacehoppity3127oh yea, forgot about that. Yes it’s a bit noticeable. However, if you’re in backpack mode and remove the hip straps, it helps. Personally I don’t have the hip strap on to reduce weight. Would you use it in backpack mode more?

  • @spacehoppity3127

    @spacehoppity3127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Yeah, it's a tough one. I think as it's a travel bag to get to and from somewhere (which I would keep a smaller daypack when I am actually walking around) the pack would spend most of it's time in backpack mode. But I do like the feature of the MLC where you can tuck away the straps when it's being used as a duffle. It just looks smarter overall. It's a hard choice!

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spacehoppity3127 when In doubt ….get both! The MLC is pretty straight forward, but you’ll have to try the black hole to see if you like that style. The top loader and veryyyyy minimal organization just gives 1 enormous space that you need to load from the top only, if that’s your thing.

  • @jamessimpson4160
    @jamessimpson4160 Жыл бұрын

    Hey, i have the 32l black hole pack as my current travel bag. Is this a similar size as the black hole fits under the airplane seats on my european flights, will this be okay under the seat also?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey James, yep it’ll be good. This one is actually smaller than the 32 so even better. So you’re flown on European airlines with the 32 as a carryon? Nice! I haven’t myself but always wondered since I heard they’re more strict with size.

  • @jamessimpson4160

    @jamessimpson4160

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG yeah some airlines are but usually as long as it is on your back and fits under the seat they are fine! So this is 26 litres and the Black Hole 32, but what can fit more clothes in and which is a comfier carry if there is much in it? I assume the 32L holds more clothes but this seems to be geared heavier to be used as a suitcase so curious! Thanks

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamessimpson4160 the 32 can carry more based on sheer capacity. However I dont use my Black hole 32 much because I don't top loaders. It's a hassle to access stuff at the bottom of the pack. Weight wise, they're the same. Comfort wise, they are also similar but I'd give the edge to the MLC. They use a similar chest strap But I like the straps on this 26 more...plus it gives option of a hip belt for backpack mode if you need it. Hope that helps.

  • @jamessimpson4160

    @jamessimpson4160

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG yeah cheers for the help, so the mini mlc is smaller and easier to get underneath an airplane seat you’d say? It looks like it holds a fairly comparable amount to the 32L though and i hoped maybe the layout would allow it to fit a similar amount if not more clothes

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamessimpson4160 yea, I'd say it fits better. The problem I had with the 32 is its kinda skinny and long. So it would stick out towards me when I put in under the seat. This mini MLC is a little shorter and just as tall so good clearance there. overall, if you can stomach the price increase and only 1 bottle holder. Tthis min mlc is a great pick over the 32. Sounds like you use it more for travel so it'll be great.

  • @wendyw4235
    @wendyw4235 Жыл бұрын

    I don't see it available to buy on patagonia site. it only has the blackhole version, not this 2022 version.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s probably sold out at the moment. I’ve n noticed that the supply has been hard to keep in stock. They currently sell the teal and orange colors of the pack.

  • @wendyw4235

    @wendyw4235

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG the other color on their website it's not the 2022 version. i guess just not available anywhere. too bad.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wendyw4235 yea darn, I’m sure they’ll restock soon

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wendyw4235 Wait, I see it listed on their website. It says Expected in-stock date 1/21/23 - 1/28/23, and you can join the waitlist to be notified.

  • @wendyw4235

    @wendyw4235

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Too bad. Can't order one for Christmas travel

  • @arguchik
    @arguchik Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a head-to-head comparison of this bag to the Black Hole 32 liter. Since they corrected the volume measurement on this one to 30 liters, I am considering picking up either this bag or the Black Hole 32 as my main one-bag travel pack. I'm wondering how noticeable the extra 2 liters on the Black Hole feels when packing, compared to the MLC. Thanks!

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    To me, things MLC wins hands down, especially for travel. It has the convertible versatility, a hip pack, and it’s easier to pack having a suitcase style opening. The only advantage to 32 L has, is a bit more space. The only way to 32 wins if you really need those two extra liters, or if you just prefer the looks. But functionally this MLC is better.

  • @arguchik

    @arguchik

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Thanks! I actually prefer the looks of the MLC. :)

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arguchik yep! Less flashy and in your face. Oh, I guess the other thing the price difference. If that matters A lot. What bag are you using Y currently for one bag travel?

  • @arguchik

    @arguchik

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG I'm currently using the Evergoods CPL 28L.(Edit: I didn't pay full price for this bag - I got it during one of their pre-sale offerings.) It's not quite large enough. I used to have a Tom Bihn Aeronaut 30. I didn't like that because it doesn't have a laptop sleeve or any way to adequately protect a laptop. I ended up selling that a year or so ago. I've looked at the Evergoods CTB 35L but it's $350 and the bag weighs 4 lbs just by itself. So I am looking for a lighter weight pack than that, which is the other thing that made the Black Hole (32L) attractive to me. The 30L MLC is heavier but light enough I think, at 2lbs 13oz. I have also looked at Tom Bihn's Guide Pack, which is light (2lbs 7oz) but almost seems *too* minimalist, and I don't really want a travel pack with a distinct lid, if that makes sense, not to mention those long compression straps holding the lid in place. So the short answer (ha!) is that the 30L MLC is light enough, has decent organization plus good laptop protection, and I'm willing to pay its current price of $200 if I like the bag. If I can manage it, I would like to be able to look at it in person before buying it, but they are sold out everywhere right now.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arguchik Ah ok, so you're no stranger to a more expensive bag. Yep, then I can't recommend this 30L enough! It is lighter than those other bags and has superior functionality. Since you're very aware of how different a few liters of space can make, my only note is that if you don't travel with your laptop often, then the huge dedicated laptop space may not be used as efficiently as possible. But still plenty of room and the square shape makes packing a dream.

  • @i2harry
    @i2harry Жыл бұрын

    Patagonia said 30L on their website now, without changing anything on the bag?!!

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Last time I checked,, yes! My video still has the old screenshot that shows 26L, however, if you compare the actual dimensions to the website, the dimensions haven't changed, so it must have been a calculation error.

  • @i2harry

    @i2harry

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG wow, thank you for the reply. Yes, I noticed the dimension hasn't change so Patagonia changed the number from 26L to 30L but still the same bag? That seems rather shady. I wonder what's the actual volume it has.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@i2harry eh, probably just a calculation error. And I’m happy the actual volume is bigger so that’s good.

  • @IanSkelley
    @IanSkelley Жыл бұрын

    What is on the bottom of the bag? Any attachment points?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    The very bottom has nothing, its just a flat bottom. The anchor points are all on the outside (the outward facing panel).

  • @IanSkelley

    @IanSkelley

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG I have been looking for my perfect backpack for months and this is the one that has come the closest to my ideal. I was so excited when I was watching your review. Thanks for a great informative video.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IanSkelley Thanks! Glad I could help. I feel the same way after using many packs. This one, though not perfect, checks the most boxes for me personally.

  • @IanSkelley

    @IanSkelley

    Жыл бұрын

    I went ahead and pulled the trigger. Was able to score it for $142.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IanSkelley nice! Damn where’d you get it for that price

  • @taropoo5157
    @taropoo5157 Жыл бұрын

    Quick question, couldn't you put the shoulder strap on the other side then the water bottle will be at the top? Of course you'll miss the handle, but that's better than letting water bottle stay at the bottom.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish! But the anchor straps are only on one side.

  • @taropoo5157

    @taropoo5157

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the reply! And sad face :(

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@taropoo5157 yep no problem, thanks for the question.

  • @samuelwong7221
    @samuelwong72212 жыл бұрын

    How's the fit for a 16" Macbook pro? I think this video will singlehandedly sell out all of their stock haha - thanks for the review!

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re too kind….but also…..they’re already sold out. I just snuck in. Haven’t even gotten to use it as much as I usually do before review. It’ll fit a 16” MacBook.

  • @s19wong

    @s19wong

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EDG hopefully there's some set aside for internal patagonia international stock, my local store in Hong Kong is ordering one for me apparently 🤞

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@s19wong ohh good luck, I hope you get it.

  • @milehigh_onthefly
    @milehigh_onthefly Жыл бұрын

    Why would you adjust the chest strap a lot?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    I adjust mine depending on how full it is. Sometimes using it for the day isn’t too full, and sometimes for a weekend I pack this thing to the max. Changes the fit and strap.

  • @sdnalyam
    @sdnalyam Жыл бұрын

    Has Patagonia stopped making the UL black hole 20L backpack?.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Not sure actually

  • @esku75

    @esku75

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, sadly they discontinued it. I have my rincon red one and really enjoy it

  • @heisenbergwalter3363
    @heisenbergwalter3363 Жыл бұрын

    The price is hilarius

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    they don't call it "Patagucci" for nothin!

  • @spikenikistan75
    @spikenikistan75 Жыл бұрын

    is it 26 or 30 ? :)

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    It's 30. When I originally reviewed and bought it, it was listed as 26L. However, they corrected the listing to reflect 30L. They didnt' physically make the bag bigger, they just fixed a calculation error or something.

  • @VivianShao22
    @VivianShao22 Жыл бұрын

    I'm confused, is it 26L or 30L?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s 30L. An explanation is in the description

  • @jasonlibs
    @jasonlibs5 ай бұрын

    What size laptop can it hold ?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    5 ай бұрын

    16"

  • @gurtajchhabra4532
    @gurtajchhabra4532 Жыл бұрын

    this or cotapaxi allpa 35? same price.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    Great question, I was literally struggling with that too. It’ll come down to size/weight but Cotopaxi offers a 28l that is closer competition to this MLC. Cotopaxi if you like the clamshell opening. MLC For general travel, I like this one with versatile backpack carry. Personally I like the MLC for its versatility better.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    What do you plan on using it for?

  • @gurtajchhabra4532

    @gurtajchhabra4532

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG I'll be going on a 2 week trip to Portugal so I feel like I might have a lot of clothing. From a tech standpoint, its just 2 charges, an iPad Pro and a powerbank. Primarily clothing. I agree with you these 2 bags seem the best in the price range and it's hard. The weird thing is the Cotopaxi 35 fits my airline's carry on limits so I considered the bigger brother of the 28 as the other option to this MLC instead.

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gurtajchhabra4532 If you're going for 2 weeks, I'd go with the Cotopaxi 35. you'll definately need the space. This MLC is best for 4-6 days trips, or a week if you pack light.

  • @gurtajchhabra4532

    @gurtajchhabra4532

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Awesome thanks. I might get this bag in the future still because of how good it is but for my use case now I will stick to Cotopaxi 35

  • @Clembo
    @Clembo2 жыл бұрын

    Ryanair says no

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not surprising. European airlines are more strict. And to think, this is supposed to be the "mini". No way the full sized 45L is fitting anywhere.

  • @Clembo

    @Clembo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EDG I would pay for extra carryon room and so would a lot of people. Who wants to pick up bags at the carrousel anymore?

  • @EDG

    @EDG

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Clembo couldn't agree more. I haven't checked in a bag in 15+ years and not looking to do it that anytime soon.

  • @mrjakobt

    @mrjakobt

    2 жыл бұрын

    I‘ve taken the old version on many Ryanair flights without issues.

  • @mrjakobt

    @mrjakobt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EDG Not really an option if you‘re traveling with kite gear ;) I fit all my clothes for a few weeks in the large MLC (minus the wetsuit).

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