I have used the micro puff hoody extensively for the last 2 years. It works wonderfully over a long sleeve base-layer for aerobic activities like XC skiing and biking in cold weather. Typically my base layer and then the hoody will wet out (from perspiration). The hoody breaths very well and keeps me warm even when it's damp (I never feel soaked). I usually drive 45-60 minutes after my workout and by the time I am home both my base layer and the hoody will be dry. After several cycles of these workouts the hoody will begin to get a little stiff and crinkly (from the dried perspiration). When this happens I throw it in the wash (hang dry) and it comes out as good as new. I've done this wear & launder cycle at least 50 times with good results. There is no way I would "abuse" a down jacket/sweater like I have the micro-puff. This winter I purchased an Outdoor Research SuperStrand LT hoodie. It's very similar to the micro puff hoody (but is less expensive). I would say the fit is a little more generous and it's a little warmer than the micro-puff I have been using the OR in the same way (described above) and it is performing well. For me, both jackets have been game-changers for aerobic workouts in the cold.

The drop pockets being slightly cropped helps things to not bounce around in there, and also makes it so that any damage to the jacket hem will not compromise the pocket's borders

@Engearment

2 жыл бұрын

Good call on that! I figured it was just to follow the pattern with the external hand pockets. The original micro puff drop pockets went all the way, and the hand pockets were higher up. Sounds like they improved the setup. Thanks for the insight!

Hi Sean. I enjoy all your videos. Keep up the good work. What pair of sunglasses are you wearing in the video? I think they might be Costa. What are your favorite daily around town sunglasses currently? Thanks.

@Engearment

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Scott! Thank you for the great note. Really appreciate the support! You are spot on with the shades 😎👌 Costa Diego. Will have the review up early next week. I really like these for wrap sunglasses. I still love the Costa Spearo XL. They are my favorite looking. But I have been going with the Spy Czar the last few months. Same size as Spearo XL but lighter in weight. Hope that helps!

Sean! Outstanding review comparing these 2 (just back from my JMT backpack, catching up). Thanks so much, looking forward to the other reviews I missed. On the JMT backpack I used the 2017 shiny blue Micro Puff, worked great as always, but look forward the new one. Hope all is well (btw, the Micro Puff link only goes to the women's versions). Take care my friend.

@Engearment

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Paul! Welcome back from your epic 15 day adventure! So cool how you get out and explore. Glad the OG Micro Puff worked well for you, still. Thanks for heads up on the link. They were not out when I published the video, but are now! So the link is updated. Cant wait to see your pics from your adventure too!

@PaulBeiser

2 жыл бұрын

@@Engearment thanks very much! Btw, one quick question, assume you wore XL on the 2017 Micro Puff? And look forward to that review on the top 😉😀

Hi Sean, Do you know if Patagonia intend to re-release the MacroPuff any time soon? New materials etc. would suit it well. Thanjs

Hey Sean, thanks for the great review. You explain the differences between the two items well, however I'm missing some more specific advice on how to pick one over the other. My assumption is that the Down is warmer but less versatile (down is not great in heavy rain, weighs more and compresses a bit less) whereas the Micro is the most versatile (synth dries quicker when wet, weighs less and packs smaller) but not as warm as the down. Thus I would probably pick the Down for casual winter use, and the micro for hiking. With these caveats: 1) one may really need the extra warmth of the down when camping in super cold conditions 2) with warmer base, mid layers (I'd go for wool) plus a light shell one can probably end up making the micro as warm as the down. Does this make sense?

@fian6268

Жыл бұрын

So for myself I'm planning to replace my underused Nano Air (too warm most of the year, too cold when not active enough) with a Nano Air Light + the Micro Puff in the backpack ready to warm me up (for northwest europe climate, mild winters and mild summers). What do you think?

Any significant difference in compressibility, packed/stuffed size?

Great video! just one question, how do they both do with warmth and heat, is the down hoodie to warm at times? or are they both similar?

@Engearment

Жыл бұрын

Hello River! I don’t think the down hoodie is too warm. But does provide more warmth. In my experience at least.

The design feature of slightly cropped drop pockets serves the purpose of preventing heavy items such as phones or earpods from inadvertently popping out of the jacket due to their weight.

@Engearment

5 ай бұрын

Good intel, thanks!

How durable is the micro puff for day to day use? 10D seems pretty thin.

I have a size s torrentshell. Im looking at one of these to go under it. I was leaning towards the down sweater, but I'm worried it too thick? Have you tried layering over it?

@Engearment

Жыл бұрын

Hello Gez! Good question. I have layered over both the Micro Puff and Down Sweater. Both worked well. The Down Sweater has more loft, for sure. But it works well with layering too. The down can be slightly compressed and still be warm as heck. I was just wearing it today in temps in the 20s F with just a t shirt. It is super warm.

Does the fabric on these jackets stain easily? and if so are they easy to clean I am thinking of getting a light color, I am concerned that i might have a jacket that looks like a stainfull mess. Your thoughts.

@Engearment

2 жыл бұрын

I am not sure if they stain easily, and I hope to not find out LOL. I would imagine they would be like most other fabric with stains. Sorry I am not more help with that!

I'm getting a Nano air vest this winter to dump the heat when I'm skinning up.

@Engearment

2 жыл бұрын

Great call on that!! I have a review on the best skinning jacket for you. Just waiting on the ok to publish it from Patagonia. As it won’t be available till spring 2023. You will love it though 😎👌

@ehyojono

2 жыл бұрын

@@Engearment OK I'm drooling in anticipation.

@PaulBeiser

2 жыл бұрын

@@Engearment can’t wait!

Are the elastic cuffs different in 2022 down sweater hoody model?

@Engearment

Жыл бұрын

Sorry friend. I am not sure I understand the question. Compared to this? Or the previous version?

if you could only choose one, for every day hustle and bustle. witch would you choose? Also hood or no hood your thoughts

@Engearment

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking forward to this question 😎😊 For warmth and day to day use - Down Sweater For my needs, and pack ability, as well as use in potentially wet situations - Micro Puff Hooded. For sure!

2 жыл бұрын

Plus 1 for Micro Puff

@rekalosonczi5062

Жыл бұрын

@@Engearment Do you think down hoodie + a shell jacket is a good combo for windy/rainy hike day? I am still afraid that the feathers could be wet inside the down hoodie and may stick together. Thanks in advance.)

@Engearment

Жыл бұрын

@@rekalosonczi5062 I don’t think you will have an issue with the down clumping on you. Unless you get soaked. You might get a bit warm with the combo for hiking. But it is a good combo for cold and wet weather.

@rekalosonczi5062

Жыл бұрын

@@Engearment yay, many thanks for your fast & kind answer! also, cool videos though ☺️

Sadly, the ladies does not include the drop pockets.

@Engearment

Жыл бұрын

😳 no way! That kind of stinks. Wonder why it does not.

the drop pockets probably end there so the stuff doesn't get in the way of zipping up

@Engearment

Жыл бұрын

Good call.

This is how I layer. Please tell me if I’m doing it correctly. Very cold weather and not super active so just casual around the town T shirt. Then better sweater. Then down sweater. Then torrentshell 3l. If I’m active like hiking I go. Better sweater. Nano puff. Torrentshell 3l. Anyway I could improve anything there?

@Engearment

8 ай бұрын

Hey Jake! Thanks for the great question. I think your set up for static use is great. I would be very warm in that system! I would not last being active in the second set up 😆. Just me. I run warm. I usually use merino 150 weight and a hardshell. Sometimes a nano air light hybrid too - for temps 5-20f. So just my feedback on how I use things. Hope that is somewhat helpful!

@jakeminton74

8 ай бұрын

@@Engearment thanks! I do run very cold as I am very skinny. Almost considered switching to a down sweater for my scribe use😂 although there in Illinois it gets very cold surprisingly. Windchill regularly gets -10F

would you recommend the 2022 Down Sweater over the Arcteryx atom AR?

@Engearment

Жыл бұрын

Hello! I have not used the Atom AR, so can not advise. Sorry! I will get with Arcteryx and see if we can get our hands on that one.

@Windfix

Жыл бұрын

Oh man I was hoping to get an answer to that question. I have the Atom AR, it’s warm but not as warm as I was hoping. I love the fact that the Atom AR can get soaked but I am looking for a down jacket for those really cold days and something I don’t need a load of layer under.

@nimaiiikun

Жыл бұрын

@@Windfix I ended up getting the ATOM AR. but on the coldest days in winter, I ended up wearing a better sweater vest underneath for additional warmth. I got to try the down sweater too, but it was hard to tell how warm it would really be unless I went outside.

@Windfix

Жыл бұрын

@@nimaiiikun Thanks for your reply. From what I have since read the Down Sweater goes down to -5c end the Atom AR goes to -8c, so close. Obviously we all have a different feeling to temperature! Agree, best just to layer the Atom rather than get another jacket! Although you can never have enough jackets 🙂

Whats that colour name of the Micro puff? Cheers

@Engearment

Жыл бұрын

Hello! Sequoia Red is the color. Cheers!

@nils_on_wheels

Жыл бұрын

@@Engearment thx mate!

They call that a sweater? That’s like calling a pair of pants a T-Shirt.

@uhuhh7683

Жыл бұрын

frl lmao

How durable is the micro puff for day to day use? 10D seems pretty thin.