Pat McAfee & AJ Hawk's Thoughts On The Madden 23 Player Rating Drama
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The sports content world always goes up in arms this time of year when Madden ratings roll out. The really issue is.. who really cares?
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The Tebow getting a 100 in faith and leadership had me crying laughing 😂
@axe2grind244
2 жыл бұрын
Derek Carr would be a 101
EA is the worst... they show you commercials in a game you BOUGHT
@EvilVon777
2 жыл бұрын
They clearly do not deserve exclusive rights anymore. Madden football blooooooows
@joeyyoho3670
2 жыл бұрын
I mean EA sucks, but everybody does that
@BB-eg5pu
2 жыл бұрын
NO SHOT, YOU LYING! YOU CAPPIN! THAT CANT BE TRUE
@joeyyoho3670
2 жыл бұрын
@Joel Cardenas The first screen when you open up 2K everyday is them trying to get you to buy the newest add-ons or buy VC
@bwilson21345
2 жыл бұрын
Literally, they are so delusional. TJ Watt is rated 96 but won DPOY last year smh
Madden’s gone downhill ever since EA got exclusive rights. Literally the same game with updated rosters and micro transactions every year
@davidnelson4347
2 жыл бұрын
Yep and yet people will buy it every year unfortunately
@iiRolltide
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidnelson4347 it’s so sad. It’s the same with cod😔
@Yoni123
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidnelson4347 Give Legend Bowl a try
@nth842
2 жыл бұрын
Bro I'd prefer the same game, it gets worse every year. They don't even have refs on the field anymore.
@rebel-_-nation
2 жыл бұрын
Slightly better animations
madden still being relevant without putting in any effort to make it better, hurts as a fan of the past games
@JonDoe-ei1wl
2 жыл бұрын
93 or 94 was the first madden I bought and 2020 was the last one I'll ever buy. I enjoy the game but am 100% over supporting EA. It's the same with all their games, the UFC game gets worse with each release
@johnlee7377
2 жыл бұрын
the future of madden is hopeless. unless we can find a way to give the NFL more money than they make through their contract with madden, nothing will ever change; madden will shamelessly make shittier games, NFL will turn their heads as they stroke their tens of millions from EA, and people who love football will continue to finance EA by buying ingame purchases from the only football game available. this is what happens when the free market is restricted. EA knows madden is absolute dogshit. If they cared, they wouldn't accidentally release "new" trailers with footage from past games (remember when they accidentally released the 2020 madden trailer with 2019 emblems on it lol). imagine how good football games would be right now if madden had to compete with 2k and other companies every year or risk going broke.
@dafuzzbear7711
2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the past games apparently they’ve been using software from Maddens in the 2000s for the recent ones which is wild.
@TheTomruch
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@jackfrost595
2 жыл бұрын
@@JonDoe-ei1wl madden 14 was the last for me.
You also have the exact same issue with FIFA. They gave a speed stat to Bayern Munich player who has been on camera being faster than his team mate, yet his team mate was quicker in FIFA. EA’s issue is they need more people on their ratings team for Madden/FIFA etc 👍🏻
@jacobsmith831
2 жыл бұрын
EA’a issue is that it’s EA. Worst current video game creator over the last 10 years.
@Nlss_
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsmith831 Ubisoft still exist brother
@Maddisch
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsmith831 Lets just ignore all the game companies with proven sexual abuse scandals :)
@zType2
2 жыл бұрын
In Madden players with 98, 99 speed get tracked down by slower speeds like a rocket, they even added the ability to "lock in" a tackle from behind.
@madk189
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsmith831 no they aren’t
madden markets itself as the only nfl licensed simulation football game when there are legit arcade games more realistic than madden. game has been the same for 10 years basically and it gets more and more arcade style rather than realistic, they just push the cash grab that is ultimate team.
@anthonycourtney8029
2 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy ultimate team lol
@tenisonolson
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonycourtney8029 there’s nothing wrong with that, but it being the main focus of a SIMULATION football game is pathetic, its no different than a mobile game
@lskdk1125
2 жыл бұрын
i love the idea of ultimate team just effing hate the gameplay
@pervotheclown2199
2 жыл бұрын
You are wrong my friend . I wish they busted out the same game for 10 years because I might still play it . Madden 15 for ps3 is the last Madden I could play ( i loved that game ) .......when they switched game engines for the ps4 , they ruined it . I haven't played any ps4 Maddens that is even remotely as good as Madden 15 ps3 . I can't speak for XBOX but for sony playstation its nowhere near the same game as 10 years ago . Madden 11 , 13 , 15 was extremely fun online and off .........the Ps4 Madden games are garbage .
@jasonphillips9281
2 жыл бұрын
@@tenisonolson nothing on earth is worse than mobile games 😂
Pat I can promise you this conversation is gonna last for every year of the show
CMC is 96 rated, higher than Jonathan Taylor. JT had more yards after contact than the 2nd leading rusher had total. CMC has played like 10 games in 2 years. John Madden is rolling in his grave.
@mKtenacious_
2 жыл бұрын
John madden hasn’t had control over madden since they sold it to EA
@brandog1391
2 жыл бұрын
Cmc should have that high of a rating because when he plays he dominates but his injury start should be super low
@Flirken1
2 жыл бұрын
@@brandog1391 no. That’s not how it works. He has done nothing in 2 seasons 2 validate a 96 rating.
@imairhae
2 жыл бұрын
Great white hype
@mKtenacious_
2 жыл бұрын
@@imairhae racist , dudes a baller. He literally Was the offense . Don’t hate cause a white dude keeps up . It’s bigger than black and white
The game it’s self is a 3/10.
@____Nairod____
2 жыл бұрын
3 is being generous. The game is a 1/10 with the 1 only being having John Madden on the cover cause the games itself have done a sh¡t job honoring his name and legacy
@TS-td7px
2 жыл бұрын
@@____Nairod____ ps2 Is forever hooked up just for madden 04-08 and the streets
@Solznmid
2 жыл бұрын
@@____Nairod____ I played the madden 23 beta and it’s actually way better than the pst 2, but EA will probably screw it up and break something before the actual release of the game 🤦🏾♂️
@____Nairod____
2 жыл бұрын
@@Solznmid that's what people have been saying for years tho. "The beta played better than the last game" then the game ends up worse than the last game. The whole "step in the right direction" people need to realize Madden is taking small steps in a foot race and they're in last place. People need to start pushing for EA to stop taking baby steps and actually start trying with making a next gen console video game like every other sports game today like ffs they're still using the same old engine from 15+ years ago that was meant for first person shooter games...
@Solznmid
2 жыл бұрын
@@____Nairod____ I decide to completely ignore the flaws and see the positives, cuz Ik I will be buying and playing the game all football season long because although it is bad I can’t not have a up to date football game 😔
They had AJ Hawk so slow one year that my brother once caught me on an encroachment penalty during a hurry-up offense, since he was able to get set and snap before AJ made it past the line of scrimmage
The wheelin dealin, Rolex wearing, kiss stealing, jet flying son of a gun. Pat Is literally the guy 💪🏾
@calipally562
2 жыл бұрын
@@ghdh166. respectfully disagree but I appreciate your input
@NobleVagabond2552
2 жыл бұрын
@@ghdh166. all decade punter
@bryce7885
2 жыл бұрын
Rofl senior analyst gil brandt ranked him as 7th best punter of all time. He was in as the starting punter in year one. He served as the starting punter and holder for all eight seasons in indy. He made 2 pro bowls and was even named a first-team all-pro in 2014 as the best punter in football. And pff ranked him as the highest graded punter of the decade. Why did u make such a dumb post when u know the internet exists and you could've researched first.
@GeneralBuckNaked
2 жыл бұрын
Dizzammmn. That dude B called you a super DickEater 😂😂😂
@axe2grind244
2 жыл бұрын
WOOOOOOOOOO!
If people actually complained about Madden in the correct way, then we would be going in the right direction. The fact the same people are not pissed off by the fact it's the same s***** game every year, is quite disturbing
@areacua95
2 жыл бұрын
Because they don't care about the users experience or the quality of the game, they only care that they or their favorite players look like chads in some numbers
@sandlotscout6358
2 жыл бұрын
Complain the correct way? I'll play a different game before I beg and plead for them to fix this garbage.
@cockyromano1606
2 жыл бұрын
The people who run ultimate team are evil
@lanabobana7687
2 жыл бұрын
I never buy Madden. Just pirate it
@jeso317
2 жыл бұрын
Its because people complain yet keep buying the game hoping to get better
Madden gets the scores wrong on purpose so people talk about the game
@gtaatmiami
2 жыл бұрын
good point. they adjust ratings year round anyways
I mean ratings don't even matter in Madden since its all animation based gameplay. Could have a 99 overall wr getting dominated by a 78 overall corner or a 6'5 TE being mossed by a 5'9 safety... It legit takes no skill to actually play and win like people always find and use cheese play away to abuse the idiotic and piss poor outdated AI schemes and gameplay
@dionysis84
2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@Aaron25thinfantry
2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@michaelluther2694
Жыл бұрын
It's a crappy cgi art project now, it's not even a real football game anymore.
AJ Hawk trolling Pat with “is this a prayer?” And Pat’s reaction was the best part of this segment 😅
I wonder if EA ever considered using stats to grade players instead of picking a number out of a hat. Might solve some problems
@mr.kcfromthe8138
2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Tyreek hill and diggs had similar numbers but definitely completely different wr's.
@Yoni123
2 жыл бұрын
They also include the eye test, which is good
I beat a lot of fools in NCAA 2007 using Pat McAfee’s WVU Mountaineers. Option with Steve slaton and Pat white was unstoppable with Noel Devine and Darius raynaud. So many good times
@Aaron25thinfantry
2 жыл бұрын
Best team in WVU history...by far. They were OP back then
@johnnobles6011
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aaron25thinfantry that triple read option was so broken
@Aaron25thinfantry
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnobles6011 yes it was! So fun though
@johnnobles6011
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aaron25thinfantry I use to get my friends and family members to rage quit off of, that’s teams BS Plays , but it was fun
@Aaron25thinfantry
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnobles6011 good times for sure
Who said Tim Tebow would've gotten 100 "for Faith" haha 11:30
@adityavandanapu2791
2 жыл бұрын
Zito
maden and 2k are the worst. STOP BUYING THE NEW GAMES
@iiRolltide
2 жыл бұрын
Add cod to that list too
Been a little bit since ive watched the show. Im glad to see aj hawk is still a part of the show. The on-screen chemistry between the two is great
I really don't know what EA has against the Steelers iin particular. -TJ Watt given a 96 OVR after one of the greatest seasons ever for an edge rusher (Myles Garrett given 99) -Minkah Fitzpatrick ranked #11 out of all safeties (not even top 10??? Really??) -Najee Harris #16 ranked RB (finished #4 in rushing yards last season despite a terrible o-line)
@forkhorse
2 жыл бұрын
Heinz Ketchup tastes better now.
@Will-sl1iv
2 жыл бұрын
a sub 4ypc rb being considered an above average back is completely fine lmao
@datsko6339
2 жыл бұрын
@@Will-sl1iv if you saw the state of PHG's offensive line last year, i don't think Jesus himself could run for more than 4ypc. He's easily the most athletic player on the team
@Wolves437
2 жыл бұрын
@@datsko6339 his comment really shows he didn't watch the Steelers. Most likely regurgitated something he saw somewhere else.
@joshfriedel5591
2 жыл бұрын
Myles deserves the 99. He's a better player than TJ.
Boycott madden
@Raiders-wm5kb
Жыл бұрын
Tweet everyone's quiet
Gotta get Papa Meags on the show to talk about madden 😂. He will tell you how it is.
@slimmy4421
2 жыл бұрын
He’s gonna need to suck another FanDuel exec if he wants another appearance on the show
The fact that tj watt isn't in the 99 club is ridiculous. The man tied the record for sacks and still gets not respect.
@geoffvaughn9850
2 жыл бұрын
He benefits from the scheme he's in and goes against right tackles. 96 is generous
@robwilli8071
2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffvaughn9850 the man makes game changing plays week in and week out. That's what a 99 is. If Garrett I'd a 99 I think Donald and watt are too
@jordancave3089
Жыл бұрын
@@robwilli8071 Donald is always a 99 I legit can’t remember the last time he wasn’t…maybe like 6-7 years ago? Lol something ridiculous like that. Although he should probably be the only dude who is a 100😂😂
I’m fairly certain they slap the same ratings on every player at that position then just adjust certain attributes that are more fitting to that position. K or P iE kick accuracy and kick power
@rolmodel12.
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. They have ceilings and floors, too. So, if they don't know how to rate a backup quarterback's speed, they'll slap an arbitrary 43 on there and call it good. Then, if you look at all of the QB's, sort by speed, you'll see around 20 guys (all backups) with speed ratings in the 40's, within a point or two of each other. Same goes with every position, like you said. There's a formula. A P with a high speed rating won't affect his overall rating, as much as a DB with a high speed rating will affect his. Awareness ratings help QB's more than any other position group, so on and so forth.
TJ Watt 3 Overall below Myles Garrett is horrendous. Haven't bought Madden or 2K in 5+ years so who cares
9:35 Ahh man Madden 09, one of my favorites. I remember Santonio Holmes had the little foot with the wing icon for speed and I'd run the drag route against my buddies just over and over again. Lol
Aj hawk did have a 95 overall team diamond card this year in MUT. Wish they would’ve made a mcafee card this year
" you can be pissed for 90 second's .... Then move on with your day. " AJ been reading Rogers Book club....LOL
Stop buying Madden if you want a good NFL football game.
I wonder what rating Pat McAfee will get when he is eventually in WWE 2K ?! And how he'll react lol
I wish we could see behind the scenes on how the overalls are determined
And here’s a thing, isn’t there mass stat keepers everywhere from Betting Businesses to Offical Premier League, NFL, NBA etc Then isn’t there a program that can be created to generate stats for video game counterparts based off everything they have done last season. I mean stats are recorded for everything from touching balls, tackling, running and everything thing in between. It should be easy, if your stats are generated in the game based off your real world stats from the prior season then there can be no complaints because your stats are what you earned.
Zitos comment on Tim Tebows faith being rated 100 was underrated
This video made me laugh out loud. Also DeSean Jackson had 100 speed rating in Madden 12
Imagine Pat one day getting on the cover of Madden, would be a beautiful thing in these wild times.
EA has mastered the copy and paste model. $60-80 just for updated rosters. I never buy it new, always wait for the price drop and final overall ratings. So basically I don't get it until the season is over 😂
@tylerpittman8957
2 жыл бұрын
I usually wait till Black Friday lol
"whether they rank ya good or bad, its like, whatever, but its your little turd buddy that you dont like is chirping at ya" is an all time AJ quote
STOP BUYING MADDEN PLEASE!!!!!!
@dougnixon6464
2 жыл бұрын
omg, this comment section gives me hope!
The Madden ratings guy is a Cowboys fan. Is anyone surprised that Steelers players are underrated year after year?
@idrip2153
2 жыл бұрын
Fxcking diggs fans coming out every crack and dark corner that diggs not in the top 10 lmao😂
"Is this a prayer?" LMAO.
Lmao Aj I definitely thought he was going into prayer so much for the moment of silence.
This is a certified hood classic
AJ’s reaction when Pat mentioned the sky vs storm 😂
@TheBritishAmerican
Жыл бұрын
idk if other people saw it but that was funny ah
I’d accept an excuse that some ratings are adjusted to balance the game, but when they say that they try to make it realistic they are just flat out lying.
They had a same fuss last year with Fifa came out. Loads of the players weren’t happy about their ratings. 😂😂🤣🤣
This cam view on Hawk is better than cigar room
I’m boycotting the game this year, I’ve given up on EA
I mean to be fair taylor does run behind the best offensive line in the nfl its cool to see those guys get their props too
Darius Leonard, J Chase, and Watt were the most disrespected. Imo
all i know is the game didnt get better when it jumped from PS2 to PS3 and hasnt since because of the chunky game play and lack of solid franchise mode
It's honestly not surprising to me that there's rating drama considering that the Madden series has been on a huge downhill for like 5-9 years
@michaelcorcoran8768
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's exactly the point, they don't have a game worth discussing so they have people argue about ratings for a month.. I wish people would stop taking the bait but I guess it's easy content
The way Pat jumped on the top rope at Wrestlemania I Rate his jumped rating at 95
Aj’s smirk at 0:33
Aj comes in on perfect moments. Is this a prayer lmao
Bless this man
I'm a science geek, and one of the classes I had in college taught us the importance of understanding the difference between accuracy and precision. Human beings by nature want to see a highly precise number so we can easily compare things, and marketing depts are very good at tricking us. If you ask two people how far is it to a gas station and one says 5.25 miles, and the other says ' about 6 miles'... we automatically assume the first guy is giving us better information.
Hahaha. “Is this a prayer”.
the monopoly video game companies have is kind of crazy. the same companies know every single year that no matter how many problems they choose to ignore or put things in games that people did not ask for while leaving out the changes their true fans want, the people will still buy it
Thank you Pat for saying exactly what I said in a previous video. Dumbasses trying to tell me madden ratings are everything...and I'm like yea for a child..
Yooo, when did aj get a new camera? I really got used to watching his two pixels moving around the screen lol
People should stop covering it, it's manufactured drama to give a terrible game free advertising.
So here’s what happened next: [EA guy calls a meeting with the executives] EA guy: we need to change the way we do things. Executives: oh no! What happened! EA guy: we hurt a punter’s feelings [extreme laughter ensues] The end.
ever seen a madden ranking update... me either.....
Why does people keep buying Madden when EA doesn't care about it's player base?
@zType2
2 жыл бұрын
No other good NFL games...
@SuperMurray2009
2 жыл бұрын
@@zType2 Wow that's a sad way of thinking
The game is 3/10 the rating are 4/10 and the rating are terrible…
I've always thought Madden needs a evaluator on each NFL team, do away with "overalls" and just do stats. Like their speed, throw power, agility, etc. Instead of overalls, maybe add grades A+ to F- and then still have your 99 club named something else for a special selected group of 5-8 players? I think this would help people complain less.
Deion and Barry Sanders were 100 overall in '99 and apparently Jerry Rice was 189 in Madden98
I swear to god I didn’t even know the ratings came out cause I don’t check my phone like that since I’m at work I live in Charleston South Carolina did pat literally just explained my situation 😂😂😂
there's so many worse things about madden than the ratings.
Madden just continues to be Disrespectful
I know AJ was definitely a 90+ overall at one point in time but was definitely super slow
@prototypeprofessor3747
2 жыл бұрын
Which is funny cuz he ran a 4.3 something at his pro day
I’m so old I mostly played tecmo bowl on super NIT haha
I wonder what Pat will say when he is eventually in a WWE game about his overall 🤔
OBJ had a 102 spec catch back in the day it was so OP
“Is baseball back?”😂 meanwhile we’re at the all star break
@JohnDopeNotDoe
2 жыл бұрын
baseball was on today smart guy
Zito "for faith" 😂😂
Wtf is TJ Watt a 96.
@jordancave3089
2 жыл бұрын
Yupp the only guy you know year in and year out will be a 99 is big #99 himself Aaron Donald
Madden stinks..Not spending a dime on that Gm till its fixed
It still amazes me how badly that EA messes up madden ratings. The data is literally everywhere. You can figure out ratings for each area of an players game in a matter of minutes. This is why I make the ratings of the players myself. I know I’m a sports analytics nerd but it’s extremely easy to do.
I would wait in line at Walmart for Madden to drop at 12:00 A.M. and skip school to play the next day. Now it's terrible....
If players don’t like their ratings- do a yearly test of “stats” doing whatever practices and then give them a # based off that. Whoever’s fastest will get that 99 speed obviously, etc etc
Had a buddy who was a Pro Baseball scout who always said..." Little League All Stars is like a pimple on a dog's butt...don't mean nothing"
You forgot to pass the plate after the sermon.
Madden sucks we’ve known that for years now.. if they had some competition maybe they’d try to make a better game instead of just updating the rosters with a new cover athlete every year
Aj camera is amazing
For shits and gigs, rewatch this video at .5x speed.... Everyone sounds hammered 🤣
BEST RANT SO FAR!!
I love that pat was rank a better thrower than punter .😅 Show's what EA video games know and a former backup player consulting to them
Pre-ordered
Haven't played Madden since Megatron was on the cover. What's TJ Watt's rating? 99? (Steelers fan)
TJ Watt had a historical year, tied the sack record missing two full games and had two sacks taken away for unnecessary roughness and is the second rated edge rusher. The only stat myles garret beats TJ in is amount of people he's hit with a helmet but if Madden keeps doing TJ like this I highly recommend TJ takes a helmet to their office and pad them stats lol.
@geoffvaughn9850
2 жыл бұрын
Myles garrets better. He's in a much less blitz heavy scheme, he's double teamed more, and he's going against left tackles instead of right tackles. And watts production is barely more than Myles. It's actually insane that this is even a conversion. People look at stats only and don't take anything else into account.
@steelcitysteve8794
2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffvaughn9850 in 5 years he has 14 more sacks, 4 more interceptions, 11 more forced fumbles 21 more tackles for loss and 34 more qb hits. In the same time period tjs stats are an entire player better than Garrett's. System is the system, you don't get to say if he was with blank he'd do blank you play the cards your dealt and he's got straight flush for sure. But TJ is a royal flush no doubt about it.
Is that Duke Nukem on the left side of the screen?
Pat showed off his running skills against Troy Polomeau
Why would a punter need good throwing in the game when they don’t throw the ball
EA does their “rankings,” but there’s a big problem In general with it. They are doing what they can working with players in the preseason and what happened the year before. They don’t look at what a actual player can do in the actual football game. Madden games just get me through until the actual NFL season starts, but I’ve always had a problem with how they evaluate and number each player and team in general.
Tim Tebo had a 100 overall for faith
Pat can't be silent during a moment of silence 😂😂
Retired nfl players should get a commission together for these madden scores
Pat can't do a moment of silence! He can't be quiet long enough😂