Rebecca Hall is right. At some point in our lives, we try to pass for something. The thing is when you get older and gain experience and figure out who you are, passing to be accepted becomes less important.

From a good distance away, Ruth looks like FKA Twigs like they could be sisters

@breeyatchful

2 жыл бұрын

she’s prettier

Ruth is giving me “Sade vibes”.

@peppermintpattie6006

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! She sure does! Diamond Life

@anthonyclarke2253

2 жыл бұрын

Not to be rude but are sure it isn't her broad forehead?

@gundamsondam

2 жыл бұрын

Biopic coming soon.

@nancymosby7369

2 жыл бұрын

Get out of my head!!!! My thoughts exactly 😉

@NYD666

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyclarke2253 yes, cuz sadness mostly comes from they eyes

"Belonging" should be the title of Rebecca's next film using the same exact cast. I love that Ruth is Ethiopian and Irish with a beautiful Irish accent because that reality and dynamic of who is really "Irish" in Ireland is a trip!

@KristiContemplates

2 жыл бұрын

Scotland History Tours is a KZread channel where Bruce Fummey presents the concept of "who gets to be Scottish?". Bruce the Bard presents some amazing philosophical concepts

@keithcomyn4823

2 жыл бұрын

Just saw film on netflix very good film well acted

Nella Larsen Book is a masterpiece , the themes of passing for straight , race , inter weaving that into everything ! So wonderfully written the erotic tones throughout the book was a shock and daring for me - it was written in 1929

Rebecca’s hair is glorious. Two incredible women and I’m always interested to see what they are both up to. Creative and stunning 🤩

Ruth Negga is beauty & brains!

This movie was so delicious! There's hardly ever any 1920's films except for odd shoot-em ups like Bonnie and Clyde type shows. To see actual living in a 1920's time period was so fun! Also, the black and white filming and all the juxtapositions of black and white made it all the more enjoyable. I loved the winter New York street that had black trees on one side and white trees on the other.

@wrendor9465

2 жыл бұрын

Well said! We need more 20's to 50's era films in black in white time now. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I loved old movies and to have a movie such as passing right now is very much needed right now. Keep it coming please!

@CindymeCindy

2 жыл бұрын

@@wrendor9465 Yes! 1950’s too!

A staggeringly beautiful film in all ways. Best film for a while.

If you passing your not free to be yourself.

@Littlething41

2 жыл бұрын

Yes so true! I feel like in the film neither women were free and that was the uncomfortable conflict. Tessa was safe and comfortable in Harlem but no where else. Ruth wasn't really safe at all! Really amazing!

@NYD666

2 жыл бұрын

But you are free to have moments of humanity. It's nice to take a break and get treated like a human

@jeanettesdaughter

2 жыл бұрын

What self⁉️ That’s the entire point. In a racist society or just a homogenous society what is the self if you are other than the majority? Try this: ask Black men why they prefer white or lighter skinned women, why they want light skinned children. Then you will really be digging into the tragic legacy of white supremacy.

@superamanda

2 жыл бұрын

But...You don’t know why people made or make choices. That’s frankly no one’s business but the individual. “Passing” has been grossly fetishized and misunderstood. Multi racial people can be whatever they want to be. Rebecca’s “Black” grandparent wasn’t even a third Black genetically. He had every right to identify with the majority of his ancestry which was European. He gained nothing from adopting a native identity as so many whites AND black folks have. Looking like all one race has its privileges and power as well. Those who do are never questioned or challenged for their ancestry.

This movie is everything in every way for so many reasons!!!

Two stunning women! So much talent!

I’m obsessed with Ruth. Love her

Love this video 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

Definitely need to check out this film.

Heyyyy youuu guyyysss! That’s from the “Electric Company.” Rita Moreno use to say it. 😁

I loved Ruth in Breakfast On Pluto

I could always tell that Rebecca Hall had black in her. It makes me love her more because she's not ashamed to talk about it. I sense a pride in her that she has some of our blood running through her veins.💙☺

@ssissigui8846

2 жыл бұрын

Really? I couldn't tell. She looks white to me

@ssissigui8846

2 жыл бұрын

@stryfetc1 yeah ..like many white people I know... I mean...she is clearly white looking. Her mom, on the other hand, has "black" features . Rebecca is very beautiful white woman with some African American ancestry.

@ssissigui8846

2 жыл бұрын

@stryfetc1 i live in Europe and have seen people like that .It's not because someone has full lips that he his black. Angelina Jolie for ex. There are also African with thin lips. That woman just looks white to me and to the majority of the world. But I guess we can agree to disagree,🤷🏾‍♀️

@ssissigui8846

2 жыл бұрын

@stryfetc1I don't think so and it is just my opinion as Black woman who is not African American. This lady cannot be "passing" because she is not black in the first place . It's not her culture nor her appearance,nor her experience. She is not like Fredi Washington who played the role of Sarah Jane in the movie Imitation of life. A white looking African American raised by two light skinned black parents in the black environment who chose not to pass as white. The majority of African American have European blood in them (for crual reasons), doest it make them white automatically? I don't think so. Why is it only one way ? To be honnest, the concept of race in the USA is pretty intriguing for people outside of America. The one drop rule still has impacts in the perception of race. Anyway, it is always great to "talk" with respectful people on KZread. Thank you very much.

@ssissigui8846

2 жыл бұрын

@stryfetc1 I'm way too serious sometimes 🤦🏾‍♀️😝🤣🤣🤣

Most black people who were that light back then married very dark men. While there was many who passed often than not that they did. I also believe those black people Clare was around while w/ Irene & Brian knew she was black & passing. Like Irene’s character said, it’s something another black person can just feel or see. It’s a shame that neither races wanted to accept bi-racial people as their genuine selves. It’s still very much prevalent in the 21st century!

@JC-unome

2 жыл бұрын

Why did so many light skin women marry dark-skin men back then? I know the reason why dark skin men "prefer" light skin women but what was the reason so many light skin women gravitated towards dark skin men and not men closer to their skin tone.

@christophergregory1

2 жыл бұрын

@@JC-unome U know that old saying opposites attract.

@kgomotsomosiatlhaga8311

2 жыл бұрын

@@JC-unome like they said in the movie. Its rooted in exotisicm. Finding extremely different feautures attractive.

@victoriarichardson-zl5zn

Жыл бұрын

Umm.. Maybe because it was acceptance and they could relate to one another life experience as human beings of color

U guys are really makes this said story

I thought the film started out very promising--loved the stylized, B&W look, the music, the acting, but I thought the story was a little thin. Wish it had gone a bit deeper. Anyway, I think it was her directorial debut, so I expect she'll likely develop as a filmmaker--this film showed great promise; also, it may be that the novella was not ideal for a feature-length film, and that's why it felt a bit underdeveloped to me.

@nancymosby7369

2 жыл бұрын

I got the point!

@sophiewright5927

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you!

@anner.4944

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is what I thought as well, I was wanting more. But enjoyed

@missprissyrainbow

2 жыл бұрын

It was true to the Novel, its more about touching on what wasn't talked about. It was totaly not what I was expecting, I felt that every character was passing in someway or another whether it was race, sexuality, society norms, etc.

@superamanda

2 жыл бұрын

It should have been a Black or multi racial director/screenwriter . Not a white woman who’s ALWAYS talked about having a white multi racial mother and now wants to change things up. She’s NEVER lived with racism or in the states.

Loved the movie

Really enjoyed the movie. My favorite movie is Imitation of life, I was looking forward to seeing this.

Ruth 🌹🌹🌹🌹

Even though Ruth doesn’t look “white”… passing during those times had much more to do with having very very light skin rather than ethnic features (nose, and lips).

@DarkNJuju

2 жыл бұрын

No it did not. It was literally about having the features and the high skin tone and the straight hair. Nothing could be left out or you could find yourself swinging from a tree.

@TyraStanks

2 жыл бұрын

I had an African American History professor who said this same thing. Passing was more so about skin tone.

@anndeecosita3586

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t entirely agree because CSA Pres.,Jefferson Davis was accused of having a black wife simply because her skin was darker and he said no it’s because she’s Welsh. Same thing with Johnny Cash’s first wife but she said it was for being Italian. Some of my older family have the complexion typical of Anglo Saxon white people but their hair is tightly curled. Most people assume they are biracial not white unless it’s from afar. In South Africa there is a thing called the pencil test in regards to hair texture.

@nancymosby7369

2 жыл бұрын

Ppl that were passing in those days had nothing to gain by claiming their blackness but benefited from “being white” $$$

@vivimo9845

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkNJuju not true but you can believe what you want.

Great job ladies. This movie was so well done very beautiful and tastefull. I really enjoyed how it challenged me to think. I wish Mrs. Hall would make a movie about Babe Ruth it has been speculated for years that he was passing in order to play in a segregated sport. He was called n..lips as a child and other players would call him the n word. Would be interesting to this masterfully.

@leslieingram4105

Жыл бұрын

Yaaasss!

Irene was supposed to look like Halsey or Rashida Jones...COMPLETELY white passing. Her friend was supposed to be like Doja Cat or Kat Graham. The film lost the original intention of Nella Larsen’s book who herself was almost all Danish.

@privateprivate5302

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting Not familiar with the source material but Rashida Jones and Kat Graham are my HEARTs 🥰 and i betcha they would have done BEAUTIFUL jobs in these roles

It’s not complex you’re black period, one drop of black blood you’re black , black people come in ALL BEAUTIFUL VARIATIONS ✊🏼✊🏽✊🏿✊🏾🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

People need to watch a movie called Pinky.

No we don’t all want to try…. I am a fair Skinned and Proud African American Nubian SISTAH✊🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽

This movie felt incomplete. I kept waiting for the high point that never came.

@DLFfitness1

2 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. It was very empty.

@anndeecosita3586

2 жыл бұрын

Not all stories wrap up in a nice bow. I don’t mind a bit of ambiguity in movie endings because real life is more like that.

I feel like a lot of the plot points in this movie already got spoiled for me, but I'm still interested to see it, as a white-passing person myself. In today's world it takes a lot of struggle for me to "feel" in touch with my black heritage when it's not tangible because of how I look. I halfway understand the allure of just wanting to let go and assimilate with the white majority of society. It's hard to explain to people who haven't had the same experience of passing. But there is an ease of slipping into it, socially, despite the emotional turmoil it causes within. It's a shame that the people being interviewed don't really seem to understand that

@christophergregory1

2 жыл бұрын

I get what ur saying. I feel like it’s the biggest reason why many bi-racial or really light people go so hard for their black side. It’s bcuz they’ve been more accepted by us Black people than caucasians. What’s funny is that caucasians had really dark skin before. There’s a Docu that aired on Showtime or Starz about the 1st caucasian in America was a black man. U can also see it on KZread. Just type in The first Caucasian was a black man.

@rf3575

2 жыл бұрын

I have a question... I understand the adherence to the "one drop rule" during segregation and even some today. But why do you feel "white-passing" vs white? From a modern perspective, is someone with a biracial grandparent and all other white/non-black relatives... why is that person not white? Can white people not BE white and have black/non-white ancestry, just like on average black people (with black parents and grandparents) have white ancestry yet are not white.

@christophergregory1

2 жыл бұрын

@@rf3575 Race is just about a person’s skin color & nothing else. That’s how it’s defined. You should watch this documentary on KZread or Showtime called The first Caucasian in America was a black man.

@rf3575

2 жыл бұрын

@@christophergregory1 .... thanks for the recommendation. I agree, the concept of race is large based on skin tone as well as a select features common to a group. So, thus why would someone of white ancestry and who possesses "white" skin then go and identify as "white-passing" vs simply white (which is a significant part of their heritage). I'm not sure if your profile pic, is you. But I feel think is more a question to be answered by someone who refers to themself as white-passing.

@jeanettesdaughter

2 жыл бұрын

They understand it; they’re choice is different than yours. Who wants to live in constant emotional turmoil, fear of being found out, found wanting⁉️

Oscars!

I know that both Tessa and Ruth are biracial. I know that in real life there is no one way that black/white biracial people should or do look. But for purposes of the movie, I think that perhaps they should have hired an actress who looks unambiguously white. The whole story rests on a person who is legally classified as black, being able to "pass" for white, no questions asked. If Ruth Negga was seen walking down the street, most people would assume that she was mixed race or a light skinned black woman. I don't think most people would think she was a white woman, even if she was wearing a blond wig. Same is true of Tessa Thompson. In fact, I'm sure that most African Americans have relatives or know of someone who identifies as black who could much more easily "pass" as white, than either of these women. This is ONE instance where actual racial identification doesn't serve the story. This is NOT an attack on the talent of either actress. It's just that I think Rebecca Hall herself might have been the more logical choice for the role.

@Salonecutie1000

2 жыл бұрын

But that’s you missing the point of the entire movie . Most white can’t tell the difference between someone like Ruth and a Sicilian woman . We are suppose to know it’s obvious that they are passing .

@reedlara

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said👏👏👏

@user-dv3kq3rm4h

2 жыл бұрын

No lilly, you miss the point. This has already been done countless times, using white-looking actresses for these roles historically in film. This added a fresh perspective and the ambiguity of the biracial actresses added to the audience's potential anxiety of being found out throughout the film. The black and white effect also added another layer of ambiguity as it obscured the brown shade of their skin. Perhaps the artistic nature of the film went over your head. Also it is very clear that Rebecca wanted to give this role to visibly mixed race actresses and they did a fantastic job. There are numerous ethnicities who were classified as white during these times who would have had tan skin such as darker skinned Italians, Greeks, middle-eastern people etc. This was not set in a time where people have the insight that we do today to identify people in the way that we do now.

@wintersantiago2274

2 жыл бұрын

Can Rebecca act? Regardless, the concept of Passing, went over your head.

@greenytaddict

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe more of a megan markle or mariah carey type might have been more convincing. But from the thumbnail it looked like two white women or a Latina and white woman.🤷‍♀️

Well u guys make moves of it

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

ok, so when is Ruth Negga going to do the Sade biopic. LoL

@lindawilliams429

2 жыл бұрын

Or Josephine Baker.

How did I not know Ruth was Irish? 🤔

@symoneb382

2 жыл бұрын

And Ethiopian

The interviewer is not in touch....his questions are weird af but Ruth and Rebecca shine bright anyway.

@ajs41

2 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with his questions?

@MichMosh

Жыл бұрын

Rebecca’s face when he asked that question about when did they realize they were part of a community... she was like sir no - not the same situation Ruth is a biracial woman. Bit tone deaf is him.

I wonder how often they even connect with the 'ethnic' side of their families.

Ruth nor Tessa can pass why were they picked? Just asking.

@Nazaba09

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don’t think they can pass either.

@tinascott1306

2 жыл бұрын

They wouldn't pass in our community, but could in the white community especially back in the 20s, my grandmother could pass in the 20s and did use her light fair skin to do what Tessa character did, buy things in white stores, but lived as black in her neighborhood,

@Salonecutie1000

2 жыл бұрын

Passing is about skin tone not features

@colleenlewis2780

2 жыл бұрын

@@Salonecutie1000 Exactly! They go by a person’s complexion not features some white people think I’m white I’m black both my parents are black

@mimiad397

2 жыл бұрын

@@Salonecutie1000 you can't pads on skin tone alone there is a reason why a black albino still looks black and will still face racism most of the time for being black.

Rebecca could actually pass, not Ruth *irl

@catchmeifyoucan1095

Жыл бұрын

Well Rebecca is a white woman, Ruth isn’t 💀

No it's broken wat u guys did to o me

I LOVE Ruth Negga and Tessa Thompson. But I do not want to see this movie. Respectfully, I think it should have been made by someone who identifies as Black, or by someone who understands this particular phenomenon of Black passing for White in the US. This was very common for many years in many, many African American families. It was very common for African descendant people who phenotypically look European to "pass" and neglect their identity, their heirtage, and their family connections. This filmmaker just admitted to not understanding why one would choose to "pass" like her grandfather did, which is a position of privilege that comes from her grandfather's choice to pass. Ruth Negga (love her) admitted to not understanding that either. And Tessa Thompson (love her) is Black and Hispanic. I think it really dishonors a huge piece of the Black American experience by making a film when you do not even understand the subject matter. It makes me angry. Respectfully. Other films like Immitation of Life, Queen, or even that film with Anthony Hopkins where he plays a Black man passing for White seems to pin point the authentic complexity of this American experience of racial identity crisis.

@modernvintage3226

2 жыл бұрын

@E.Diamond I Agree

@kathleenhiggins4027

2 жыл бұрын

Agree!!!!

@Johnnyiswhere

2 жыл бұрын

You don't have to understand anything to create art. Only the human experience. It's not a documentary, it's a piece of entertainment also meant to enlighten

@norarojas5653

2 жыл бұрын

That’s why it is called acting

@stacycushinberry

2 жыл бұрын

My Mother's Dad's side of the family was just like this "passing". My Mother wasn't accepted because she couldn't pass

Ruth is not passing.

Welp, I reckon one would try to pass for a different race is too limit the daily danger. Autistics do this everyday. So why, fear and the desire for opportunities given only to those considered human (such as being treated like a human)

I wished that the Claire character was played by someone who is racially ambiguous as the Director is. Ruth's ethnicity is obvious but Rebecca's embodies the storyline absolutely. While she is not on trial here it would be interesting to know how she navigates/negotiates the world vs how others see her. Passing is both passive and active, not so?

@beyondlondon8600

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's designed to be obvious to us (the audience) so that we have a constant anxiety that she might be caught.

@benscr

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, but Rebecca is basically a white woman with a bit of African American heritage, so she’s not passing. Her grandfather was half black, her mother is a quarter black, and she even less so. The Jim Crow law OneDrop rule, as well as being racist, is outdated and not based on reality.

@beyondlondon8600

2 жыл бұрын

@@benscr You don't seem to understand that passing is rooted in Jim Crow and the one drop rule. People who passed made the decision to integrate into white society and were mostly white with African ancestry but unlike today, they were not viewed as being white "with a bit of black", they were wrongfully considered black. Therefore Rebecca Hall, had she taken that path would have been "passing", the fact that she is "basically a white woman with a bit of AA heritage" and therefore not "passing", is contradictory considering the view of the era. Nowadays though passing seems to mean a person who can simply be mistaken for white and in that sense I see your argument.

Since we are getting into the politics of racial identity and passing, I'd like to comment on one casting practice that has always bothered me. Why do black/white biracial actresses get to play both black AND biracial when black actresses don't get to play biracial? Why does the gate only swing in one direction?

They could've got Rashida Jones to play this part. She is white passing for real.

@killboggins

2 жыл бұрын

But they didn't so...

@superamanda

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Should have been her and Halsey.

Society: You're too young. Stay away from older women Older women: 👆

Passing is not always about skin tone. I have a story to tell as well. I’m black. I guess you would say. I’m more of a Diahann Carroll type person. So passing is not always about skin color. I never ever ever tried to pass ( act white ) that’s how I was perceived . I’m 52 - Doors were opened for me that others couldn’t get into. Jobs were available for me that were not available to white nor black. My ability to communicate with others well , is what open many doors for me. I knew I had favor. Favor isn’t fair

@TMorales131

2 жыл бұрын

If you’re 52 years old that means you were born in 1969. That hardly puts in the era when people felt the need to pass in order to survive or were ashamed of being identified as black. Please don’t confuse the issue or worse yet delude yourself. Diahann Carroll looks would not have helped you during that period any more than Dorothy Dandridge’s looks helped her in the era before Diahann Carroll.

@wintersantiago2274

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure you benefited from Colorism. Colorism is still happening today, so I can only imagine how bad it was for darker skinned women, who possessed the ability to communicate well with others, when you were younger.

@TMorales131

2 жыл бұрын

@@wintersantiago2274 You’re so correct. Examples are everywhere historically but one of the best can be found in the documentary “I REMEMBER HARLEM” about the period that spanning the 1920’s-1930’s known as the HARLEM RENAISSANCE. There a point in the documentary that focused on White Department stores MACY’, SAK FIFTH AVE and others refused to hire people of color. After much protest from the black community they agreed to reverse their policy but blatantly told the community to “ send us your lighter skinned negroes. The community responded by telling them they would have to take whoever they send. Also, speaking of Harlem. Places like THE COTTON CLUB, which was operated by a white NY GANGSTER would only allow the lightest of black women be part of chorus line. Dark skin women literally were relegated to clown performances.

@zoodleinfo

2 жыл бұрын

@@wintersantiago2274 It was easier for me than it was for white Women or light skin black Women ... There is also a thing called passing if your are attractive no matter what color the skin is. I"m serious- I never wanted to talk about it . But I always knew that skin tone had nothing to do with it

@zoodleinfo

2 жыл бұрын

@@TMorales131 Well It works for me now and it worked for me then ... This is my truth I have always know that light skin has nothing to do with it - And- Your are right I have know idea what was going on in the 20s but in the 80s/90s and now Pretty will allow you to pass

This movie is from a white view point. Black is what we call it the race but it comes in all shades. They would have to be more pale to pass .

Hi, Hall I would love to have seen a movie about your family passing White, your family was not the only Black people that cross over appeared White, Black people in Louisiana Creole family Black people appear White, everywhere in North America, Southern America, Washington D.C. Black people that appear White crossover you have families appear White but Black people like Stevenson's family, also Sequoias family passing White, Butler family's and appear White Passing White, appear White Proctor Family, cross over to White Black people passing White, grandmother lied, grandfather's lied, Black people crossover to White that appear to be white. Ancestry DNA can unlock all the secrets that your grandparents and mother and father-in-law. about United States of America still have the one drop of black blood rule of law on the book in 2021. America State of United have 1% Black blood rule in North America makes you Black in North America, Black people have been passing White ever since 1619 402th years ago, Spain kidnapped 20 human beings British stole 20 human beings slaves. Black Africa human beings cargo, from the Spanish ship. British Ship landed in 1619 Jamestown Virginia, aka today Hamptons by British 1619 402 year's ago in America, United States of America, Black people have been passing White ever since 1619 402th years ago, black people have been crossover passing as white the one that appear passed White. Black people that appear could passing White cross over. hundreds of black people passing as white it's can be million Black people crossover to White. Your children are not White but Black people. no human beings are mixed in North American still one drop of black blood have 1% Black blood rule in North America all White people should have a DNA Ancestry test,

At 6:45 of course she was herself in the presence of black people. She longed for it. The movie does not show how she is when she is surrounded by white people. Does she conceal her black impregnated behavior with them??The two scenes with her white husband showed how scared she was if he found out about her identity but I supposed him not knowing much about black people and culture put her in a position where she can act a bit black.

@sagesse1986

2 жыл бұрын

Beside, it is strange how unclear their experiences are in this interview. who are « They » is it the whites the black the biracial or other. To me, since the movie is clearly on that topic and passing for an entire race, it is a pity that they seem to be tiptoing around it.

I really don't think Ruth Nega could pass for white. Edit: based on responses.... as a mother to two interracial children, I tend to notice when I see people of mixed ancestry and I have read about this particular subject for years. Looking at Ruth I would automatically assume she was off mixed ancestry because of her features, hair texture (even if it was blonde in the film) and eye color. My daughter has been mistaken for latino and Egyptian (both of these cultures have populations of mixed racial backgrounds) but is basically a light skinned black woman. My son has been mistaken for someone of Arabic descent as well but he has totally different facial features than my daughter. Neither could pass for white. Looking at historical photographs, I just felt that they could have casted the role to be a little bit more accurate about "passing. I have seen older white people that have features that made me think that they were passing because of eye color, hair texture, etc. Just my opinion. Rebecca, on the other hand, I would never have guessed any ancestry other than Caucasian.

@Gen-yh1jz

2 жыл бұрын

How about an olive skinned Greek or Italian person? I know in the 1920s Italians were not considered white but you did not specify what you consider white. Also, I have not seen the film yet so is white anything that is not black? Spanish maybe? I think she was cast so the audience does not forget that her character is black. So we feel the danger she is in. How easily she can be outed. How hard it would be for her to start somewhere else and pass.

@TrangPakbaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gen-yh1jz nah. I didn’t even know she was half white. She looks like a fabulous looking black woman

@symoneb382

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrangPakbaby Ethiopian and Irish

@yjk5737

2 жыл бұрын

What about Rebecca?

@Gen-yh1jz

2 жыл бұрын

@@yjk5737 I don’t think the audience would feel like Rebecca would be in the same position. She would not be accepted as a black woman in the black community because she looks white. She would be accepted in the white community based on her skin color. Even if she were caught she could deny or move on. Ruth on the hand does not look Anglo Saxon. If you watch her Good Morning America interview she could pass for an olive toned European. If someone said Ruth was black it would be a huge problem because she does look like she is. I think the over all point is Ruth is fighting for more opportunities. Unfortunately, it is going to cost her identity. Rebecca would not have the same struggle. Her struggle would be not being accepted in either community finding a place to fit in.

I'm so glad Ruth's middle name is not Isa because it would be so wrong yet so right, for so many reasons! 😅

This "one drop rule" is what makes this discussion so poignant. Rebecca Hall is partially black as her mother is of mixed ethnicity of black/white (Rebecca's grandfather is half black/white). Rebecca herself is a little bit black and is married to a white man. Genetics play an interesting role here because her kids can possible breed out Rebecca's African American lineage or faint characteristics of her black lineage will remain. There are so many passers in Hollywood. Actors and actresses who you wouldn't even think were partially of African American descent. Usually most would say they have Native American heritage over their distinct blackness. I often wonder if for Rebecca, was this film subtlety related to her own possible identity struggle. Anthony Hopkins starred in a similar film called the, Human Stain where his character portrayal was a passer for white and delt with exact same issues from a male point of view.

@missylearned9821

Жыл бұрын

Rebecca would then be 1/8 black which is what Thomas Jefferson’s children with Sally Hemings were and why they disappeared from the slave rolls at Monticello except for 1 as they became teenagers. I suspect they were sent off to acquaintances to live in freedom. I find this subject fascinating and sad all at the same time because human beings are simply human beings regardless of their skin hue.

The fact that Rebecca Hall does not understand why her grandfather worked so hard to pass as white is proof that we have come some way in improving our attitudes towards race!

@logiclanguagelearningFrench

2 жыл бұрын

I believe she knows very well and just doesn’t dish to drip herself in it statement wise

@e.diamond4080

2 жыл бұрын

I think if you dont understand that choice then you do not understand how dangerous it was to be Black in those times/the 1920s or how much negativity that Black people face in society by being associated with being Black, so much so that it seeps into the psyche. This I believe is why people chose to pass. Because it was easier for them, even with separation from their families. And because they were not able to embrace their Blackness for whatever I internal reasons. The fact that she doesn't understand that points more to the fact that she presents as White, was raised White, and does not understand the Black experience. This is why it is offensive.

lineage who you are. Not blk or wyt. lineage

Ruth looks bored

These actresses are at least 50% white one and about 90% the other. So why the big fuss? We all come from Africa.

Passing?? These women are whole yt women. That 1 drop rule need to be thrown out. Because these women clearly have more than 1 drop of yt DNA.

@sergeayissi939

10 ай бұрын

1 drop rule no longer makes sense today!

For some reason - I think that some in Hollywood are playing up their "ethinc" roots when it's convenient - like say when I'm promoting a movie about passing as white. Because that is exactly what Rebecca Hall did her whole life ie. as an actress in most of her roles she has played white women. She does not look black or mixed at all - so this never affected her life in any meaningful way in today's film industry. Rebecca Hall you won't ever understand what it is to be black or mixed heritage and have mixed feelings about where you fit in. You have always fit in with those around you. Don't try to say now, that you had an epiphany about what it means to find oneself. It's so annoying!

@007Fusiion

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, in her own life and professionally. BUT, she’s always known about her mother’s struggles and probably wondered herself ‘will I look black/does this make me look black’? Etc. So, more psychological than a lived experience.

@BaileeWalsh

2 жыл бұрын

While I agree with your first statement and have noticed this with other films, I haven't seen any interviews with Hall for this film where she is really centering herself in such a narrative other than trying to know more about and understand her family history and that perspective. Not that I've watched more than a few videos for the film, though. I just finished watching the film and am looking to learn more about the behind the scenes stuff and hearing others' thoughts on it by watching videos right now.

@benscr

2 жыл бұрын

Your 100% right, but a fact that’s overlooked is Rebecca Hall is really a white woman with a bit of black ancestry. Which is not the same as being mixed.

@superamanda

2 жыл бұрын

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@superamanda

2 жыл бұрын

@@BaileeWalsh She BRITISH so she can NEVER understand. She is getting on and needs to change up her game career wise. She’s ALWAYS talked about her remote tiny amount of SSA and always scoffed at claiming it...

Ruth Negga was great (wonderful accent and acting) but I couldn't help but cringe in the writing..It's absolutely humorous what they did with Ruth's character with her husband..Probably the most unrealistic part was where her husband called here "Nig" it sounds like something a white liberal would think a racist would say, almost very child-like, kind of like the Jussie Smolliet Situation. Interracial marriages existed, and a racist who "hates" a certain race would definitely know if their partner was within the same kin of them. A lot of "they" thrown out in the film almost a subtle demonizing a certain group- just..another propagandist movie. Anyone who knew real history knows that you either tell the story objectively, or its bs. This was a leftist's fever dream.

i had no idea that rebecca hall was Black.

@ladygodiva5407

2 жыл бұрын

She’s not, her grand parent was and she wanted to connect with that story. But she does not identify or try to associate with the black experience.

@sergeayissi939

10 ай бұрын

Rebecca Hall is white, married to a white man!

answer this GAYAGENDA BE honest

I had an issue with Ruth. She’s one of those bi racial people who don’t want to say their identity. She says I’m Ethiopian and Irish. That’s your culture. What do she identify with. Black or white. She’s too careful on not choosing and people like her with brown skin. Drives me crazy. Being black is not a bad thing.

@TheJCMlove

Жыл бұрын

She doesn't need to 'choose', she is justified in embracing both sides of her heritage.

@stephaniewilliams168

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJCMlove no it's not

The move was boring to me.

Rebecca is a liar. Her grandfather passed because being white is easier, and Rebecca is no different.

@gm9222

2 жыл бұрын

Im sure for both reasons of safety and it definitely being easier as a given.

I love Ruth negga but she can’t ‘pass’ the way someone like meghan markle can. Bad casting.

@Im_so_Retro85

2 жыл бұрын

Meghan Markle looks mixed. She doesn't look white at all. You can tell she isn't white right off the bat. I highly doubt she'd be able to pass in those times either.

@wintersantiago2274

2 жыл бұрын

@@Im_so_Retro85 Megan definitely looks white with a tan

@Im_so_Retro85

2 жыл бұрын

@@wintersantiago2274 Not to any non-white person she doesn't. She doesn't look White at all. Her nose, her hair texture, even when it is straightened, is all a giveaway.

@Nazaba09

2 жыл бұрын

@@Im_so_Retro85 I’m latina and thought she was latina at least but that is still considered white.

@Im_so_Retro85

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nazaba09 Latinos are not all considered white. I'm Latina as well. Most peoples of Latin American countries and the Carribean (Hispanics) are mixed. We are the product of colonization by the Europeans. That is why we come in all shades. Meghan is considered a "Mulata" in the Latino community. Refined facial features, but she obviously not a white woman.

What is this British woman who gets paid to make a movie about an African-American story? And this lightskinned woman is also Ethiopian-Irish, not American. I know it's just an act, but I don't like it when non-Americans use American stories to make money.

@catchmeifyoucan1095

Жыл бұрын

boohoo

No one is taking about Alexander Skarsgård being racist. Even if it is for a movie that doesn’t make it right. 🤷🏽‍♀️

@kb8170

2 жыл бұрын

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@mirmir4003

2 жыл бұрын

@@kb8170 move along

@kb8170

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirmir4003 🥱

@uniqueben-judah1942

2 жыл бұрын

My gosh, what a dim-witted ass comment. And you have it out here for the whole interwebs to see! 😑🤦🏾‍♀️ He's a whole actor, playing a whole role, which is the whole point of actors/ actress. If you're unable to grasp that simple basis, I'd highly suggest you get off of the social media, immediately. Ugh. . .so cringe/second-hand embarrassment inducing.

@TyraStanks

2 жыл бұрын

This comment is funny. Was he supposed to not be racist to make you feel better even though it’s just a movie? 😂