Passing A Portal Through Itself
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This video is about what happens if you try to pass a portal (like in the video game Portal or Portal 2) through itself - do you get a paradox? Infinite recursion? Impossibility? Contradiction? The end of the world? Collapse of the wavefunction? Ultimately it ends up looking beautiful and weird and recursive and... just watch the video :)
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I love how it's just generally accepted now that Portal's Portals are the only things we're allowed to use for diagrams with portals.
@ironicanimations
10 ай бұрын
I mean, it’s a good design :D
@Netsuki
10 ай бұрын
It's not only allowed, but it's just what people recognize. And simple color coding that exist so player could easily understand which one is which makes it good too. Darksiders have same colored portals, iirc. But they look a little difference. Valve was and still is good at making games.
@SRFriso94
10 ай бұрын
GLaDoS was right: "Now you're thinking with Portals."
@CrashSable
9 ай бұрын
@@Netsuki Darksiders' portals are a direct reference to Valve's portals. If Vigil had never heard of Portal, they would have come up with a different design (or more likely, not have come up with the idea for the Voidwalker at all)
@Netsuki
9 ай бұрын
@@CrashSable Everything is inspired by something. If Doom didn't exist, Half-Life would have never been made either. But from mathematical point of view, there is no "what if". It's everything that You can easily calculate. Or maybe not easily, because You have to start to think with portals, but that's just a math. If one point of first portal corresponds with one specific point of the other one, it's all calculable, computable. And we know how these portals work, so anything we don't know, can be just simply calculated.
I can see why the game designers avoided dealing with this through the simple expedient of making the portal close if it's moved.
@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
Жыл бұрын
movable portals are actually possible, and are only used once in portal 2 the reason you dont see it more often is because the physics are completely broken when you enter a moving portal
@giaxo1739
Жыл бұрын
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 This has to do with the fact that portals in the portal games have temporary invisible platforms generated to prevent players from getting stuck, among other generated structures that you can't see and often only exist for a few seconds, if even 1.
@danielgreenwood793
Жыл бұрын
Technically all portals are moving because motion is relative. The portal to the moon was orbiting the earth portal
@weckar
Жыл бұрын
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Chop those neurotoxin tubes.
@J0hnB09
Жыл бұрын
@@danielgreenwood793 in portal those are perfectly still.
It’s shocking how well you explained such a trippy and abstract idea in such a short amount of time
@kavearn2
5 ай бұрын
"5 days ago" 💀💀💀💀
@ZackRappMusic
5 ай бұрын
@@kavearn2 ... your point?
@figuregaming3872
4 ай бұрын
69th like
@deoxal7947
Ай бұрын
when you have crazy math and computer skills, stick figure animation ability.
@stevenbmitems
Ай бұрын
I always think the thumbnail is the eye of sauron.
0:12 R.I.P Bob 2022-2022
@Luigimaestro
2 ай бұрын
Roo
@Meme_angel
2 ай бұрын
BOOOB NOOOOOOOOOOO
@chilliamlikeschillies
2 ай бұрын
@@Meme_angeluhhh
@rare.rubies14
23 күн бұрын
@@chilliamlikeschillies LMAOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭💀💀
Portals actually are everywhere, the problem is they're all back to back, with no way to separate them
@jeeBisOkay
Жыл бұрын
just like ninjas...
@JaydenET
Жыл бұрын
what if 3d space is the portals
@sol_in.victus
Жыл бұрын
doors.
@Carewolf
Жыл бұрын
It is the same problem with monopoles.
@kspangsege
Жыл бұрын
Well, in a sense you are right. There are theories about how space emerges from tiny wormholes (ER = EPR). A portal is kind of a simplified wormhole, maybe 🙂
Portal physics must be the thing that keeps this guy up at night and he had to explain it or he would die from curiosity
@paulbizard3493
Жыл бұрын
😅
@madloudnoises
Жыл бұрын
@@trout3685 ok trout.
@goutgueule9197
Жыл бұрын
You AGAIN ?
@Leptronium
Жыл бұрын
Your everywhere
@UnknownZYX_4085
Жыл бұрын
@@Leptronium HIS everywhere?
This is a troubling thought that I had as a child ever since the release of Portal 2. Thank you so much for solving this 😊
I'd love for you to make a similar video about a more general problem with so-called scaling portals, i.e. those that vary in size, and when something falls into one portal, it comes out of the other with a proportionally changed size. For example - the blue portal is 7 times bigger than the orange one, which means that if a 1.75 meter tall man entered the orange portal, a 12.25 meter tall giant would come out of the blue one. However, if the same 1.75 meter tall man entered the blue portal, a 0.25 meter tall dwarf would emerge from the orange portal. My question is - what would happen if you threw a smaller portal into a larger one, and would it be possible to throw a larger portal into a smaller one if they had the right shapes, and if so, what would be the effect. You will make me very happy if you make a film about it.
@HeraldOfOpera
2 ай бұрын
Someone else mentioned a game called Superliminal where this is a puzzle solution... because you're trapped in a recursive set and need to destroy reality to continue.
I'm convinced Henry is making real, working Portals and is posting videos of him testing new features for people to point out so he can fix it. Very effective debugging process.
@livedandletdie
Жыл бұрын
Doubtful, as he is thinking of them as objects, while they're literally non-objects. It's like saying, I'm going to pass this void through this other void... There's nothing there, a hole is not an object.
@anandsuralkar2947
Жыл бұрын
@@livedandletdie when u r talking about passing portal through portal u have to assume them to be material
@emmanuelakalusi3690
Жыл бұрын
@@livedandletdie no he said they were on objects. The portal itself is not an object no shit it’s a wormhole
@Blueissocool927
Жыл бұрын
@@livedandletdie You can clearly see in the drawing that they are ontop of a metal plate
@Blueissocool927
Жыл бұрын
The blue portal is attached to the plate to the plate going through takes the portal with it
Someone's been replaying Portal a lot haven't they?
@dharunrahul1700
Жыл бұрын
I wonder who is that
@Wrenosaur_
Жыл бұрын
Me, probably.
@proglitcher1231
Жыл бұрын
yep
@KJ4EZJ
Жыл бұрын
Funny coincidence, I also just started back through the Portal series because I got my Steam Deck. Crazy timing.
@guilhermetito2003
Жыл бұрын
Since Portal 2 will be given away for Xbox Live Gold users I'll go and play it one more time
I love that you used the Companion Cube! The Portal references are amazing!
An important detail here is that each portal must have a backing that blocks entry such that entry is possible only through the coloured fronts of the portals. Changing that changes so much.
i love how portal has completely changed how we interpret portals and we always see it as one orange and one blue one
@OLLGY69
Жыл бұрын
Geometry dash portals also look like the Portal ones
@cycrothelargeplanet
Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@angulinhiduje6093
Жыл бұрын
@@OLLGY69 and many many more, because of the game portal (which is way older than geometry dash)
@ThatWhichObserves
Жыл бұрын
@@angulinhiduje6093 Honestly, I'm still stuck on Diablo 1 and 2 portals, since, while looking like portal's portals, come so much earlier stylistically that I wonder if some design queues weren't derived from them
@glados4765
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. That is what we achieve at Aperture Laboratories. Making the impossible, possible.
I like how he just talks about Portals like the ones from the game are the universal standard when we talk about Portals.
@ggmann13
Жыл бұрын
Well what is ironic about that is the one from the game don't even function like this. So if he were going off the portals and the rules from that world, then this entire video is much like the cake, a lie.
@xradar8349
Жыл бұрын
What is different about the ones from the game?
@ggmann13
Жыл бұрын
@@xradar8349 the portals from the game have a certain set of rules and laws in adherence with the world of portal. When one portal is placed with no link to the other side, it remains closed until the second portal is on a stationary surface. So it is impossible to fire one side of a portal link into the other. Therefore this video is not going off the rules of the portals in the game. So no, the man doesn't talk about portals in the game being the universal standard, because if he were doing that then the entire video would be incorrect. Which it is, if based on a fictional idea in a fictional realm with already well established (albeit also fictional) rules for how _those_ portals function. The more I think about it the more this entire video irritates me hahah.
@electricpaisy6045
Жыл бұрын
@@ggmann13 true but he talks about them being orange and blue and being connected to each other and stuff. A portal could be anything if you just call it a portal with no further specification like he did. Could be the portals from Rick and Morty for example or just a normal door. He just starts talking based on the game and makes an "what if the portals from the game where actually like this?" out of it.
@ggmann13
Жыл бұрын
@@electricpaisy6045 yes exactly he could have used portals from rick and Morty or just fictional portals full stop lol. But when he immediately pulled the portals from _portal_ he fucked up by pigeon holing himself like he did.
Great Videos, keep it up!!!
I thought this was going to be an impossibility with a super complicated metaphysical answer. Makes me think of when questions that seem complicated to us will one have a 4 minute explanatory video :)
Making this animation seems more difficult than making an actual portal. Very good job
@jwonz2054
Жыл бұрын
That is what they did with programming...
@abhirupkundu2778
Жыл бұрын
@@jwonz2054 go make this animation with programming. If u dont do it you are fucking doomed
@netherportals
Жыл бұрын
Blender gets it.
@technotwitchyt
Жыл бұрын
@@abhirupkundu2778 bet
@georgiokoev5062
Жыл бұрын
mb dislike was accidental
I like the fact that if you're thinking with portals, they always will be blue and orange. It's hard to imagine using other colors for em.
@Grizzlox
Жыл бұрын
Ive always preferred purple for other reasons
@Wajze
Жыл бұрын
Well They are really god fucking games
@snerttt
Жыл бұрын
I mean, even in the game there's more than two colours. In co-op mode eventually there has to be 4 simultaneous portals.
@tuser8
Жыл бұрын
@@snerttt Still works, each character is blue and orange respectively and has portal colours reflecting the components of that Orange has red and yellow Blue has cyan and indigo
@novarender_
Жыл бұрын
@@tuser8 never thought of that!
Very well explanada and simplified
This is one of the greatest videos I've ever watched.
Several things to mention: 1. I loved the explanation, super clear and logical, every part made sense. 2. The animations are beyond my comprehension, this is absolutely fascinating to me how smooth and accurate they were. 3. I guess you're really into portal physics, huh.
@SheyTheGay
Жыл бұрын
Short, sweet, straight to the point. Also the BEST explanation of this question i've seen TO DATE.
@Olflix
Жыл бұрын
@e Shut
@gloriousGab
Жыл бұрын
number 1 is 100% confirmed, even a dumbass like me understood it
@codiserville593
Жыл бұрын
He's probably thinking with them
Glad to see Portal and Portal 2 are still iconic enough to be the way portals are drawn in 2022
@reznovvazileski3193
Жыл бұрын
yet still not iconic enough for valve to get off their lazy asses and make us a portal 3 :c
@xdrakken4710
Жыл бұрын
@@reznovvazileski3193 valve can't count that high smh
@ToxicBastard
Жыл бұрын
@@xdrakken4710 They made: 3 games with teleporters 3 games with Ellen McLain 3 games with sentry guns 3 games with scientists of questionable sanity 3 games with secret underground bases 3 games where you can disintegrate your foes All in one box They love doing things in threes
@MelodiesFromTheStars
Жыл бұрын
@@reznovvazileski3193 apparently there was a portal 3 VR planned but it caused motion sickness
@reznovvazileski3193
Жыл бұрын
@@MelodiesFromTheStars Yea I can kinda imagine that lmao that sounds nauseating and I'm not easily motion sick :')
you always deliver content that's both thought-provoking and enjoyable!
This is exactly the solution I came up with when I was little, but I've never seen it explained so clearly! Pretty dope
Crazy how simple the explanation for this is, it really makes it feel like an actual science
@witherschat
Жыл бұрын
It's non-euclidian space/plane study. Technically science, but in the Math department
@swivel_z1371
Жыл бұрын
@@witherschat I think a professor told me that Math and Science are alike in that Science qualitatively explains Math, and Math quantitively explains Science
@user-bs2um7li8j
Жыл бұрын
@@swivel_z1371 yah but Math only tool and if dont use physic right math will not explains any. Actualy this vido explaonetion wrong. Autor does not take into account portal physics he make only Math and its looks right but its dosent.
@swivel_z1371
Жыл бұрын
@@user-bs2um7li8j And that's what's nice about science, you can say it's wrong and maybe be right since it's theoretical. But the simplest explanation is almost always correct. The more you have to make exceptions and special rules, the less likely you are to be right.
@user-bs2um7li8j
Жыл бұрын
@@swivel_z1371 Actualy no. Its easy to modulate Portals in real life. Physic of portals founded of 4 dementional space. 3D univers lockete in 4D demention and if you make 2 holes and connect them outside 3D in 4D you get portal. So now lets go to 2D univers in 3D demention and repirt . Tacke paper fold it and make 2 holes 1 near edge and enother right at edge. Firt will be illustrait 2 portals located next to each other (1 on one side of the sheet, the other on the other). Second its how this 2 holes will act when cross each others.
I remember in the game "superliminal", when you put a portal in a portal, the world will crash and that is actually how you proceed with the game (to free yourself from a self-iterating room). Now I learn that the action will not cause the universe to crash :)
@commandocat7675
Жыл бұрын
yea but thats because the portal is small
@godfreyw5412
Жыл бұрын
@@commandocat7675 Oh I see. One of the portal was smaller than the other, which was a different scenario.
@BlazeKnight1561
Жыл бұрын
Not crashing the universe is no fun though :(
@tookie444
Жыл бұрын
Yeah superliminal is such a trippy game
@builder1013
Жыл бұрын
Um… I thought this one out and what’s happening is you have a room that contains itself, so when you threw the room outside of itself it would’ve become an infinite amount of rooms in white space since there was nothing outside the room, or something like that. Hopefully Minute Physics makes a video on it, I would like to understand it more than just my drawings.
This was extremely entertaining and hilarious! Great idea
welcome to “I don’t understand anything but this is cool”
I would love to know what happens when you enter the portal that is half immersed in the other portal
@donottrustanyonelol
Жыл бұрын
the portals would be pushed apart or get stuck with ur body. if appriote preasure is applied you would be squashed together (possibly die/expolode). If the portal is infinitly thin and you are next to the corners of the portal, you may be sliced however your own body would probably stop you from being sliced. edit: I get now that it'll be impossible to be sliced because there is no space within the portal. however you could still be crushed as long the portals move closer together while you're still stuck inside them. There is no need for high speeds for this to happen. simply applying enough force to move the portals while you are inside them are suffienct. I woudl think this force would be exactly the same as the force needed to crush you between two objects that are not portals
@chaireater4209
Жыл бұрын
You would either climb through, or get stuck because you bumped into yourself or your portal and are forced to climb out. The portal wouldn't slice or crush you unless you went in at very high speeds and fell on yourself. The portal doesn't change shape, just location and so would you.
@danielsime911
Жыл бұрын
Might depend on the angles but I imagine you might try to reach your arm in and then get blocked by your own arm
@ajfraser224
Жыл бұрын
Pain, that's what happens
@CinJyxxe
Жыл бұрын
I feel like you would just end up unable to fit through until the intersection was resolved due to your own body being in the way unless it was a very large portal. I could be wrong though.
This was actually a plot point in Problem Sleuth, where portals inside window frames (powered by electric plugs) were a recurring device. If you put a window through its counterpart, the stuff in this video happens, but since the windows have the same physicality as what you'd get at the hardware store, they clunk up against themselves and prevent infinite recursion... unless forced together with sufficient force. Then they explode. Violently.
@Whoolgans
Жыл бұрын
did not think id see mspa here
@pirilon78
Жыл бұрын
@@chronocases9752 our brains dont like infinites so we have no idea what would hypothetically happen if you created infinite recursion
@e4Bc4Qf3Qf7
Жыл бұрын
@@pirilon78 thats not true. All of calculus is infinite recursion.
@pirilon78
Жыл бұрын
@@e4Bc4Qf3Qf7 i said we dont know what would happen. Theres a difference between numbers and reality
@e4Bc4Qf3Qf7
Жыл бұрын
@@pirilon78 Demonstrably incorrect. If your numbers aren’t an expression of reality, you’re doing them wrong.
I literally have always had this question. So many thanks!
It would have been nice if you put numbers on the orange portal too, that way we can keep track of which part of the blue portal the blue portal should be coming out of.
Rest in Peace editor of this vid, the pain you went thru was not in vain. Good video.
@stanleybochenek1862
Жыл бұрын
oof
@Cornholio8787
Жыл бұрын
why is he dead?
@joeisdude
Жыл бұрын
@@Cornholio8787 just take a look at the visuals
@iamhungry1412
Жыл бұрын
@@Cornholio8787 he meant rip in a rhetorical sense, because the editor had to work so much
@glados4765
Жыл бұрын
Dont worry, it was for the best. The editor was showing signs of intelligence and had to be placed into the emergency intelligence incinerator.
I love it when someone adds complete science to science fiction. So intriguing.
@nolesy34
Жыл бұрын
Hello inception
@glados4765
Жыл бұрын
Aperture Labs makes the impossible, possible.
@alienhomicide
Жыл бұрын
like, dragon anatomy
@nolesy34
Жыл бұрын
@@alienhomicide mind. Blown
@nolesy34
Жыл бұрын
@SkeLLy The furnace?
It's crazy how im learning way more from these weird videos rather than in school or at math
this makes so much sense
can't wait for real portals to be invented just for either this to happen something catastrophic that breaks all laws of physics
@murray821
Жыл бұрын
Quoting Dwayne Johnson from the movie Doom: I don’t do nano walls.
@WUZLE
Жыл бұрын
Portals as they exist in-game break the law of conservation of energy, so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for them to be developed.
@pain16tdn45
Жыл бұрын
@@WUZLE And breaks relativity too
@hyperx72
Жыл бұрын
@@pain16tdn45 How so?
@realogamusic
Жыл бұрын
Tbh if portals would exist like p2 this wouldnt work. As the portal wormhole is just relative distance. Blue and orange will always be a certain amount of units apart unless reopened at another position. Thats also why moving portals wouldnt work... idk about other fictional portals though so w/e lmao
I was having a hard time following why the blue portal "bent" along the surface of the orange portal, so I had to draw it out myself continuing the blue portal through the orange portal in a "virtual space" where I could see how the angle of the blue portal loops in on itself and thus comes out of the orange portal at that lower angle.
@demonking5934
Жыл бұрын
What will happen if the blue portal is smaller than the orange one?
@jotareiss
Жыл бұрын
@@demonking5934 it cannot be. If so, they "break the rules", like how an object bigger than the smaller portal will behave if it passes through the bigger portal?
@Bogdan100pink
Жыл бұрын
@@demonking5934 My guess is that the blue portal would become smaller as it's coming out of itself, if there were 2 portals one bigger and one smaller it would act like in the game superliminal where the object that enter the smaller portal would become bigger and bigger until it can't fit through the portal anymore and if the object enters the bigger portal it would get smaller and smaller until you can't physically see it anymore.
@SDLXVI
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
Thank you for making this video it was so cool 😎
i made eggs while watching this. best eggs ive ever made. thank you, you are very talented and i love your cooking/interdimentional portal theory
“Placing a *portal* within a *portal* instantly destroys both items and opens a gate to the Astral Plane. The gate originates where the one item was placed inside the other. Any creature within 10 feet of the gate is sucked through it to a random Location on the Astral Plane. The gate then closes. The gate is one-way only and can't be reopened.”
@Tacid_Krios
Жыл бұрын
Finally, something I understand in the comments
@josephcowan6779
Жыл бұрын
Okay yeah this seems accurate
@josephkerr5018
Жыл бұрын
@@Tacid_Krios yeah cause it's complete mumbo jumbo garbage 🤣
@Tacid_Krios
Жыл бұрын
@@josephkerr5018 What is complete mumbo jumbo garbage?
@minuteman1043
Жыл бұрын
@@josephkerr5018 It's the Dungeons and Dragons rule attached to some objects that involve demi-planes or inter-planar travel. Don't really care either way, but that's what their referencing.
This is probably your best video in years. It helps solve one of those nagging annoying ideas in the back of your head that you can't visualise yourself but is definitely possible to investigate and find a conclusion to. I feel like years of a little nugget of stress in my mind has vanished. This video is a god damned public service.
@MouseGoat
Жыл бұрын
lol so freaking true, well put into words!
Finally, someone finally answered a thought I had since a child!
It was pretty interesting to watch. Thanks!
If a blue portal comes through an orange portal, it then comes through itself. However, the new, rotated part of the blue portal must also have itself passing through. Krzyhau simulated this in Triple Laser, and the game crashed because the blue portal had to rendered through the orange portal infinitely many times.
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
Жыл бұрын
No, the portal only appears out of one place.
@zyklqrswx
9 ай бұрын
this is the question I need a professional physics answer to
@aykarain
8 ай бұрын
it works, its just... yeah
@cheesepop7175
6 ай бұрын
a portal tunnel isint actually infinite, it's like pointing a camera towards it's feed where there's an infinite loop on the screen
@NjamNjam0
4 ай бұрын
Heck if this is how it is then irl it should be impossible to build portals at all.
Portal was based on Narbacular Drop, and you can shoot portals through other portals in that game. Valve hired the entire staff that made Narbacular Drop and they made Portal.
@nanifa6082
Жыл бұрын
Not staff, students. It was an amazing school project.
@oldspicewhistle8191
Жыл бұрын
Shooting a portal creation projectile through another portal isnt the problem here at all also everyone already knows that lol
@generaldirection5123
Жыл бұрын
I played that before. Shooting new Portals thru an existing Portal sounds like a cool idea at first, but you realize after a while it's basically cheating. For example if you just stand in front of an orange Portal looking thru it, you can shoot new blue Portals thru that until it reaches the entire end of the map, then just walk thru it once and you're done.
@Darkclowd
Жыл бұрын
@@generaldirection5123 you'd have to design the puzzles differently, but it's not difficult to see how one could do so.
@MarkosDGE
Жыл бұрын
@@oldspicewhistle8191 i didnt know that already
This was super entertaining, thank you
thank you for this explanation
Now for the real question: How would the momentum of a portal passing through itself affect its trajectory?
@FreshPe
Жыл бұрын
A portal does not have any mass I guess
@RC_Engineering
Жыл бұрын
Do portals have momentum?
@peterbonnema8913
Жыл бұрын
do portals have mass?? Well they don't move with the speed of light.... hmmm
@degiguess
Жыл бұрын
portals are not made of matter thus they have no mass thus they have no momentum
@Anankin12
Жыл бұрын
Can you assign momentum to space itself? You can with radiation, but I don't know enough about general relativity to know whether one can assign momentum to a space wave, or gravitational wave, or a space topology thingy like a portal must be.
My question is: are there any unique portal 'paradoxes' or thought experiments which involve movable "co-op portals" from the sequel? I.e., cyan-purple linked portals and yellow-red linked portals working together. It seems like it would be easy to put a nonlinked portal through a portal, but I'm wondering if there's any situations where Interesting Things Happen when you have two pairs of portals. What about more than two?
@lancestryker
Жыл бұрын
Cave Johnson would probably say "Psssh the only paradoxes we have in Aperture Science are the ones we use to dispatch the bad AI. In our R&D department, we give you our quality assurance that the testing chambers we provide are either working or broken."
@gastonpossel
Жыл бұрын
There an independent sequel (Portal Reloaded) that shoots a third "time" portal. It actually connects 2 different worlds, one of which is a future aged/destroyed version of the "present" test facility. You have to jump between times to solve puzzles. Paradoxes can happen but the game deals with them by erasing specific changes you've made in the "future" when you modify the "present" (i.e. you can bring a cube from the future-side to the present-side and get away with two versions of the same cube, but if you move a cube originally from the present its future version would vanish -whenever it is- and pop-up in the future-side at the place you left it in the past).
@globalincident694
Жыл бұрын
there's the thing of moving portals being weird (see youtu.be/watch?v=B19nlhbA7-E ) but that's pretty much the only other issue with portals.
@MA22
Жыл бұрын
There's also the second one (which you can watch at kzread.info/dash/bejne/rHh1p5t6j5S0cZc.html )
Three questions, based on the actual game: 1) What does it look like if a third object is passing through the blue end of the portal at the same time? Or would it wind up getting stuck on itself? 2) In the game, objects going into one portal retain momentum when leaving the other portal. Does this cause problems here? Especially with respect to question 1? What if we could distort space in a relativistic way, would it work then? (I guess if we assume that the portal itself is infinitely thin, it would have no mass, thus no momentum) 3) In Portal 2, two player mode has a blue/purple portal and a red/yellow portal. What would it look like if the red portal passed through a blue one while the purple one passed through the yellow one? It hurts my head just thinking about it.
This was the questions ive being looking for
I think what I found to be the most unusual about this video is how intuitive it was once explained. I've often thought about this, myself, but could never mentally work out what kind of behavior we should expect from an interaction like this. Lo and behold, as soon as it's explained here, it becomes obvious but I just couldn't wrap my head around it until it was explained.
These portal videos are a triumph
@rpungello
Жыл бұрын
I’m making a note here: huge success!
@Asterism_Desmos
Жыл бұрын
@@rpungello It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction
@ConfuSomu
Жыл бұрын
@@Asterism_Desmos Aperture Science
@benprescott9217
Жыл бұрын
Portalception
@petsgamesandrobots438
Жыл бұрын
@@ConfuSomu We do what we must because we can
This is a brilliant watch right before my exam day
It's like a reflection has to move parallel to the surface a little bit first before bouncing off
Interesting that it always maintains its total surface area. That makes sense, of course - I just never even would've thought of it if you asked me this out of the blue.
@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am
Жыл бұрын
How about: Out of the orange?
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
Жыл бұрын
@@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am How about: Into the orange?
@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am
Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn That's just: Out of the blue, with extra steps.
@KhanGarth
Жыл бұрын
Out of the Blue sounds like a documentary of the making of Portal tbh
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
Жыл бұрын
@@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am exactly.
Warning ⚠️: Thinking with portals may blow your mind. Aperture Science would like to take this opportunity to stress it upon you that they are not responsible for any cranial mishaps due to rapid expansion of the brain. Thank you and good luck testing out there. I always love these portal paradox videos, although I guess this one isn't really a paradox like the others 🤔 still super interesting to see it fully rendered, you did a great job with that 👍 👏
@RicardoMorenoAlmeida
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@unluckypanda5448
Жыл бұрын
After i read Aperture Science the voice in my head switched to glados xD
@jannikheidemann3805
Жыл бұрын
@@unluckypanda5448 Your brain doing it's job.
@seeker296
Жыл бұрын
For it to pass all the way through requires squeezing or infinite thinness. So its a paradox unless the portals defy physics
@dainbramage9508
Жыл бұрын
@@seeker296 I had the same thought in the last video actually, I assumed the edges were solid like in the games because you can stand in the portals on their edge, and because they have a thickness they'd be unable to fully pass thru each other at any angle, this does work if you consider the edges to be infinitely thin but if you work with the game logic then it's a little less possible, you still get the wacky portal protrusions tho
best sponsor ever, at the end of the video
Thx for this amazing video!
I like how this question is easier to answer than the question about the trajectory of the cube.
@likebot.
Жыл бұрын
Um... hi? Does your handle get you shadowbanned in some places too? Maybe even banned?
@Ikebot
Жыл бұрын
@@likebot. Haha yes, pleasure to meet you. I think I may have been shadowbanned on Reddit for suspected spamming (not by people but by actual bots, which is kind of ironic).
@MrQuinnlord
Жыл бұрын
Be honest. You guys are just saying Shadow banned because you think it sounds cool, right?
@insertafunnyname478
Жыл бұрын
@@MrQuinnlord no being shadow banned is different
@MrQuinnlord
Жыл бұрын
@@insertafunnyname478 this guy gets it
I feel as though there will be some real world counterparts behind this logic and it could be useful.
@katsu_xd_4823
Жыл бұрын
So if you throw a smaller portal in a portal then it Infinitly comes out of itself?
@codyhill2311
Жыл бұрын
Like portals don't actually EXIST. So yeah good luck explaining physics on imaginary objects.
@jd_kreeper2799
Жыл бұрын
@@katsu_xd_4823 How the hell would the same two ends of a portal be different sizes?
@katsu_xd_4823
Жыл бұрын
@@jd_kreeper2799 I'm just saying what if
@jd_kreeper2799
Жыл бұрын
@@katsu_xd_4823 THat makes no sense though, even in-game. How would one opening be smaller than the other?
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@tw0tr1ckp0nyficated
3 ай бұрын
mec quoi
@ewan1369
3 ай бұрын
@@tw0tr1ckp0nyficated Ecoute cette vidéo, tu vas tout comprendre sur les femmes!
Amazing, very good.
This explains the extremely recursive fractal effects and that video about being squished between two portals
@DirkSwizzler
Жыл бұрын
Also, by default the game only does 2 graphical recursions "for real". The 3rd onward are copy pasting from the previous video frame and definitely isn't designed to work with intersecting portals.
@silverish9081
Жыл бұрын
Glad it's not only me who immediately recalled that video
1:07 Blue Portal got a stiffy
@Derek21701
Жыл бұрын
😳
@hahahahaunicef
Жыл бұрын
💀
@Vicid7437
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@hahahahaunicef
Жыл бұрын
Sniffy with the griddy?
@hahahahaunicef
Жыл бұрын
Happy new year by the way!
i love you companion cube, nobody knows me like you do.
Hey, the answer is easy. When you pass a portal through a portal, then the dust particles will start getting transported through the portals with increasing speed up to effectively becoming a plasma. This results in a thermonuclear reaction, which constantly gains power while being transmitted through crossing portals. Random new portals opens leading to the crossing ones, and potentially become crossed too, in effect creating new, exponentially growing thermonuclear explosions firstly on the planet, then on other planets in the solar system and finally in other systems. The self-multiplying energy starts to exceed the mass equivalent of the universe and creates paradoxes leading to other universes - spreading there the unending explosion. Finally the multiverse seizes to exist in a blob of super-heated plasma, ending the whole existence as we know it. And afterwards, most likely, a big bang 2 happens. So crossing portals is generally not advised. It was all written in the flyer "Become a happy and productive employee" given to all newcomers on their first day in the Aperture Science underground lab. Didn't you read it?
I am so glad someone started doing the calculations on this question BEFORE i thought of asking it!
“If you put them back to back you shouldn’t be able to tell there is a portal at all and they retain this behavior…” is one of the most physicist ways of describing something.
That wobbly mess of the portal going through itself multiple times reminds me of trying to untangle a landline phone cord that has spun into itself. What a headache.
Thanks for the clues science steve
At first it was really hard to imagine, but adding the numbers helps make it easier to understand. It definitely gets super trippy when you started changing the directions it could go through the other portal.
@TheRealRidley12
Жыл бұрын
I know, right?
Did this in unreal engine a few years ago and it was super trippy, exactly like this demonstration shows.
@vladimirryabtsev6184
Жыл бұрын
Video?
@UncontrolledxXx
Жыл бұрын
yeah and Elon Musk is my brother
@duckmeat4674
Жыл бұрын
@@UncontrolledxXx its not a difficult thing to do. Portal like engine existed since 2004. There are many youtube videos how to make portals in unreal too
@kidness2017
Жыл бұрын
@@duckmeat4674 he actually is Elon Musk's brother !!
Thanks for figuring it , now I may be able to go back home 👽
im subbing, you're actually cooler than i thought
this is so cool. man. glad you had this idea to share- its really satisfying too when you see it all animated, like it just makes sense. very very cool.
@dark-yato
Жыл бұрын
He actually uses his account 😯
@myhelshik5844
Жыл бұрын
I saw a man that did earlier it on Unity engine that had almost 60k views. So it's probably not his idea.
@warmachine3295
Жыл бұрын
Cool
@yee2343
Жыл бұрын
I thought that mercury got you bro
I like that Valve's Portals have just become the standard when animating/making portals. theyre always orange and blue ^^
@joshuafischer684
7 ай бұрын
It's a great artistic choice. They're opposites on the color wheel, making them complimentary. Complimentary colors almost always look good together and are known to attract attention.
Basically a mirror, but reflects 100% of the reality that goes through and around it or its counterpart
Cool video, thanks!
this process may get even more chaotic in the face of attempting to pass solid objects or just to see Einstein cry, fluids, nutonian or otherwise for extra fun through said cascading portals. nonnutonian fluids may just be a messy idea.
@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy
Жыл бұрын
I believe the word you're looking for is "newton"ian, as in Isaac Newton.
@telegenicdragon8045
Жыл бұрын
@@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy Don't be silly. It's "newt"onian because they're amphibious
@obligatoryidiot
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂@@telegenicdragon8045
I used to think about this a ton as a kid. Thought it would be possible if you slid the portal in at a shallow angle facing itself, but I couldn't have simulated it as well as this!
As a once engineering student, it always amazes me when someone make mathematical things visualized.
It produces exactly the same result as passing a Dalek through a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Just an unholy mess which is invisible, inaudible, and indescribable.
did see a screenshot once from the portal game where someone had managed to make the portals overlap a little bit. it looked like an infinite number of portals, I dont know how the game managed that without crashing, unless it all counts as the 2 original portals and what is seen is just visual effect and doesnt cause any strain on the engine.
@CloudyChair
Жыл бұрын
Im guessing you're talking about portal 2 Portal 2 already runs pretty well But the infinite portal thing is 2d so it doesn create an infinite space It just makes you think there's one
@arnabbiswasalsodeep
Жыл бұрын
portal has a flag which u can set to have moving portals. It's evident from the level where u disable the neurotoxin. Also there's a max reflection depth coded in and can be changed to a max of 64 if I remember.
@spacebassist
Жыл бұрын
Crowbcat did a video on that called "crushed between two portals"
@spacebassist
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoiOxptucqaxfbw.html (link is separate to be safe)
@usokkithetree8738
Жыл бұрын
@@spacebassist really I'm just happy that there's a link in a youtube comment and it isn't spam or a bot trying to fish clicks. Legit link to a legit video of getting crushed between 2 portals. Thank you.
Impressive. Most impressive. Mid-way through the vid, I imagined (in my own thought experiment) the portals could go crazy, flapping about trying to equalize, then spin along each other, eventually blowing up.
@maker0824
Жыл бұрын
Why? I don't see at all what would bring you to that conclusion
@Jansenbaker
Жыл бұрын
@@maker0824 Just some fun.
@Emanuele_Polisena
Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure a portal would never explode.
@TheMusicalFruit
Жыл бұрын
@@Emanuele_Polisena They said the same thing about exploding lemons and look how that turned out.
@archlich4489
Жыл бұрын
Noice!
Thank you for answering tbis question i had this question for a while
ive rewatched this video so many times
I like how we are still asking (and answering) questions related to impossible to represent in reality subjects, such as portals. This of course is not limited to portals, but I have mentioned it to stay on topic.
@mvukovic5364
Жыл бұрын
What happens if u pass trought a portal passing trought itself
@OmegaMouse
7 ай бұрын
Portals are about as likely as black holes. Why should portals be science fiction if we accept worm holes, super black holes, dark matter, quantum entanglement, etc?
I'm giggling so much at the animation @1:10
Man, thank you now I can sleep peacefully
with portal 3 we need it to use all of these portal paradoxes and questions for the hardcore science nerd out there
I love how in the beginning MinutePhysics literally showed us what would happen if a portal went into a portal, and the rest of the video is him explaining what would happen, and giving another demonstration.
@g_g...
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, any other video would talk about the entire universe before getting to the purpose of the video
Saw this video by Crowbcat years ago called "Crushed between two portals". Very therapeutic and psychedelic and somewhat related to this.
This came into my had at 2AM. Thanks
This concept really screws with my mind.
0:58 you're such a tease
@OliverSchlecter
Жыл бұрын
LMAOO
@SchadenfreudeUY
9 ай бұрын
LMFAOOO
1:05 man why does shit like that make me giggle
That explains why spot got so powerful
This feels like the DND equivalent of turning a bag of holding inside out