A fun little side story about homeopathy that I always enjoyed. The famed logician of the Victorian era, George Boole, who is the namesake of "boolean" algebra in computer science, was returning home from a lecture when it began to rain. The wet and cold sent him into a fever which left him bed ridden. His wife, being a proponent of homeopathy, began a treatment over the next few days that included drenching the fevered George with buckets of cold water. Can you guess what happened? That's right! He died.

@steveanton763

9 ай бұрын

I guessed right! Ten points for me!

@cliveadams7629

8 ай бұрын

I don't know why, usually drenching a fever in icy water is a winner.

@cthulhluftagn3812

5 ай бұрын

I question your defenition of fun...

It is truly amazing to see how much this guy did to advance medical science, simply by accident. Got doctors to question if it was a good idea to poison people, got them to at least consider listening to their patients and consider their symptoms (still working on that,) the first double-blind study... it's amazing.

Sophie sounds like she is absolutely *jonesing* for the podcasting machete.

Now I want to listen to all the other iHeartRadio shows to find the one where Sophie bursts in in the middle of an episode going "GIVE ME THE MACHETE"

@11myricka

8 ай бұрын

I would pay $5 to know

@cliveadams7629

8 ай бұрын

​@11myricka Send me the $5 and I will tell you. Promise.

@11myricka

8 ай бұрын

@@cliveadams7629 this is a TRAP 😭😭😭

that little "fuck yeah! (high five)" when sophie got the machete... oh they're really so special

This podcast is ridiculously under rated

@fredericksmith7942

9 ай бұрын

I think it is medium rated actually.

@stinkytoy

9 ай бұрын

I think they get millions of listens per month via more typical podcast outlets, it's just the youtube viewership itself is low.

@5ooP_sOUp

8 ай бұрын

​@@fredericksmith7942medium rare

@cliveadams7629

8 ай бұрын

​@@fredericksmith7942Yeah, always the way. Ask for blue, get medium.

"nonsense water" is my new fave

Sidenote: The real life scenario that sets up The Lord of the Flies... has actually happened and resulted in the kids quickly developing an egalitarian practice and taking care of an injured kid until they were rescued.

@rodneysmith873

4 ай бұрын

I wholeheartedly believe that Lord of the Flies is help up solely by people who want to believe humans are inherently bad.

@MrGksarathy

Ай бұрын

What's the source of that claim?

@KitaBFawkes

Ай бұрын

@@MrGksarathy Look up the Tongan Castaways. Actually happened, pretty well-documented.

@tomdavis3878

6 күн бұрын

@@rodneysmith873 It's not just that they want to believe it; it's that they want to believe it because it gives them an excuse to act in terrible, selfish ways themselves.

An hour of silence might be a good description of homeopathy ... the "pet rocks" of medicine.

A stopped clock is right twice a day but a clock that's two minutes slow never is.

@steveanton763

9 ай бұрын

I've never heard that before. Love it. Works on a few levels. Is it a well known quote?

It's interesting how relatively often "like cures like" is actually true (or at least appears to be superficially true if you don't know what's medically happening inside the body). With a lot of types of ADHD and ADHD medication, for example, stimulants (that make NTs jittery/energized/unable to relax/anxious) can make people with ADHD calmer and make our brains work better, to the extent that sometimes we go to sleep (the theory I've heard for why this works is that while stimulants cause NT brains to release too much dopamine and adrenaline, they cause ADHD brains to release the right amount, or closer to the right amount than usual, since ADHD brains tend to release too little dopamine and similar hormones/neurotransmitters, and have trouble regulating release-reuptake cycles like the one that controls dopamine in the brain). I've taken a dose of Ritalin to try to stay awake and do homework a little longer, and then fallen asleep a few minutes after taking it anyway. "Like cures like" (or appears to); stimulants can treat hyperactivity (or in some cases the type of ADHD that's inattentive/would previously have been considered ADD, because not all ADHD includes hyperactivity, paradoxically, but yeah). Or for example, with diseases like cancer (where the problem is basically unregulated cell growth), or autoimmune conditions like multiple sclerosis (where the problem is the body's immune system cells targeting its own tissue and systems; the nervous system, with MS), a remedy that kills some of the cells in the patient's body, and is poison to a healthy person, can actually have a positive effect. Again, broadly: "like cures like" (or appears to); poison seems to cure attacks on the body from mysterious wasting diseases that kind of resemble poisoning symptoms (to an observer at that time). That's not how you cure most things, but it's interesting that he came to that conclusion.

@sholem_bond

4 ай бұрын

I think the illusion of "like cures like" also often comes from the fact that if people are deficient in something (adrenaline and similar hormones; insulin; vitamins, etc) and you supplement it, deficient people will recover or their symptoms will improve, while if you treat healthy people in the same way (by essentially giving them too much of something they weren't previously deficient in) it can often make them sick. A lot of people have deficiencies in various essential substances, and people probably had even more back then when we knew less about stuff like balanced nutrition and hydration. Even if you treat someone's vitamin deficiency by accident, you are still treating it and that will probably still help the patient at least a little (even if the deficiency wasn't the main thing making the patient sick, potentially, treating it could still help the body recover better on its own).

@MrGksarathy

Ай бұрын

True. Poisons and toxins tend to work by attacking our cells and impeding their function, and this can be used to treat various kinds of diseases. Additionally, things like antibiotics often come from nature and even from other, competing bacteria, so the illusion does reinforce itself even further.

This just hits different than i suppose it would have when originally aired 😂

I believe the river in Cleveland caught on fire a total of 12 times. It's one of the driving reasons the EPA was formed.

So you're telling me there is a knife out there I can use to cut both other knives AND electricity?

@rodneysmith873

4 ай бұрын

It must be the work of an enemy Stand.

Always love an American trying to say Gloucester. It's actually pronounced 'Wymondham'...

@zhazhagab0r

9 ай бұрын

We literally have a city in Massachusetts called Gloucester, proonounced the same way as in England. It's just a weird word if you're not familiar with it lol.

@cliveadams7629

8 ай бұрын

Fool. It's pronounced Chomondly Smythe.

@HarryDirtay

3 ай бұрын

They don't pronounce it Glosstah in England ​@@zhazhagab0r😂

As a brit, these pronunciations are causing me massive psychic damage

Honestly, the witchcraft he learned was probably closer to modern medicine than humorism (what passed for medicine at the time) is, considering that, historically, medicine was one of the many roles religious leaders played in their communities. Also most modern medicine originated in the Congo, and definitely would have been considered witchcraft at the time.

@snorpenbass4196

10 ай бұрын

...gonna need a citation for that bit about modern medicine originating in the Congo? Edit: It's generally agreed that what we call modern medicine started in the 9th century CE in Salerno, with the original predecessor being Imhotep the Egyptian, and the methodology itself originating with Ibn Sina (also known as Avicenna) in the 10th century CE. Only things I found claiming anything about the Congo were New Age nonsense and homeopathy crap.

@cliveadams7629

8 ай бұрын

​@@snorpenbass4196Don't forget the ayahuasca.

@SesshyLover777

2 ай бұрын

Fascinating! (The replies too)

What's the name of the knife? Gerber what?

34:00 that is just the far too common correlation causation conflation, the fact that the idea seems to sometimes work is just coincidence and more often then not is ineffective or actively detrimental. It might be a reflexive conclusion, but it should be actively suppressed.

If you hide a bag of marijuana where your airbag was, what happens if you crash your car? Does it just blast weed directly into your face?

Didn’t that cat killing kid have a basic instinct fetish?

🥰🔪

That bit a about beating Trump by electing another old fart... Oh boy, if only they knew.

@defies4626

4 ай бұрын

Weirdest part is... for all that Biden has some sticking annoying points and his... *problematic* history, he's honestly been surprisingly effective and useful as a president.

@rodneysmith873

4 ай бұрын

​@@defies4626in all honesty Dark Brandon has been way better than I expected. Not great, more like stumbling over a very low bar but holy shit at least he isn't an actual Nazi.

Love this show; you're like the Frasier and Roz of our era. I guess that makes Billy "Mad Dog" or something, idk.