Part 4: Springfield Prodigy Final Fix- Yup!

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Problem solved! At least with the limited testing on the bench. Still need to put rounds through to confirm. But I can tell you it feels a lot better. Hold off on buying that 12lb recoil spring that others are telling you to buy. Springfield Armory designed the 1911 DS to run with a 9lb spring. Lets figure out how to enjoy it!

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  • @daves5765
    @daves57659 ай бұрын

    I just got my prodigy, i bought the 4 inch version. I am blown away by how naturally this points and feels in my hand. The dragonfly optic is way better than i expected and I am usually an optic snob lol. I actually really like this optic! I don't understand the haters of this pistol. It seems very well made to me, and as i have done with my several other custom 1911's, i may tune and polish some parts in this one too but to me that is a lot of fun. To have a custom gun of this quality at this price point is EXACTLY what i wanted. I know how to tune 1911's so i know my end result (if i need to tune it at all) will be a solid running gun for a long time... And will still be under $2,000 investment. People don't understand that this platform needs to be tuned. Either tuned/polished by hand at the factory where you're going to pay extra for it or you tune it yourself if you know what you're doing. Either way the end result will be a solid running pistol personally I trust my ability to tune it better than anyone else because I've done that for many years on many 1911s and mine run flawlessly. That's also why I don't take my sports cars to a shop to get wheel alignment done. I do that myself with my custom-made jig at home.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    9 ай бұрын

    Well said!

  • @colemccrary4704
    @colemccrary4704 Жыл бұрын

    Finally, someone else who has magazines like mine. The coating had worn off where it was not smooth. Sanded mine down and then polished it. Also polished my feed ramp, top of disconnecter, and where the hammer slides. It’s feels buttery smooth now.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Let us know how they work when you get back from the range!

  • @seanoneil277

    @seanoneil277

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice work Cole. I think it's wise to be able to diagnose & fix such things, much like one should be able to change a flat tire, jump a weak/dead battery, change wiper blades, etc if one drives. Anyone who trains regularly or who competes will know that magazine feed lips can get bent if they hit the ground at just the right angle, causing a mild deformation that hinders feeding. Some people just throw them away. Old time military folks who used metal magazines on AR rifles know about feed lip tuning. It's not as if this is some weird, unheard-of thing.

  • @R_Arizona

    @R_Arizona

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s what I’m doing too. I was absolutely disappointed that it failed to feed on my first round ever and then every one in the mag afterwards. Used my buddy’s Staccato mag and it had only 1 failure to feed. WTF is up with Springfield they use Hunter Biden as a quality controller???

  • @seanoneil277

    @seanoneil277

    Жыл бұрын

    @@R_Arizona The problem is Prodigy buyers are using polymer mass-produced Glock reliability standards for a platform (1911, whether single or double stack) known to have burn-in issues and other finicky behaviors because of the closer tolerances at work. If you want turnkey operation and Glock/Toyota reliability, a 1911/2011 is not the wisest choice. It also does seem that SA somewhat rushed these to the public, as if they wanted to get them out there by some date they thought was more important than a full QA & QC process for the batch of first retail runs. Most of the successful home fixes, like our host has done, suggest it's more a close tolerance related issue, with some rough surfaces which, if fully QC/QA processed, would have been smoothed out, rendering better initial reliability across a multiple of ammos. It's also possible many buyers have never owned/shot a pistol with a tighter, match-quality chamber. Such chambers can be finicky with bulk ammo and some home reloads with older bulge-prone cases.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@R_Arizona Head of QC and Sabotage

  • @MarshallArsenal
    @MarshallArsenal10 ай бұрын

    DUDE! Thank you, this was driving me crazy. Note to Prodigy owners.... if your magazine base plate is full of brass bits, this is the solution. I used a dremel with a polishing tip. Buttery smooth....

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    10 ай бұрын

    So glad it was useful!

  • @seanoneil277
    @seanoneil277 Жыл бұрын

    There are deburring tools made specifically this kind of job, and some are not too expensive. I have a set -- Stanley, I think -- with 4 tools. One for steel, one for aluminum, one for hard plastics, one for copper. Mine are for tubes & not flat surfaces, but similar exist. Diamond stones and fine sandpaper also work well. Back when most bicycles were mass-produced CrMo steel, or Aluminum, it was common practice for bike shops assembling bikes to true up all mating faces with a cutting tool, and to chase all threads with a thread chaser. Bikes without these processes would have creaks, groans, and fast bearing wear if this process wasn't done. It seems the Prodigy needs similar attention to all mating/sliding/interacting surfaces. While MIM sure has its appeal for rapidity of production, I'm not sure it results in articulating edges that are as pure and true as those cut from tool-quality metals, or formed carefully through traditional processes, rather than layered in a 3d sintering. Beetween when you made this video, and me leaving this comment 10 or so days later, a few YTers I follow have talked about the nature of 2011 pistols, their history, the history of 1911 pistols, and the ways in which they have historically been finicky relative to a modern striker-fired pistol. X-RING reviewed the Prodigy as well as Staccato C2 and talked about 2011 finickiness in both, Honest Outlaw talked about the Prodigy and then specifically 2011s, and Wilson Combat (Ken Hackathorn & Bill Wilson) did a "Seven Gun Sins" in which the 2011 / 1911 history & need for mechanical attention was discussed. All of them together give some good perspective on the Prodigy -- and why your approach is a sensible one.

  • @docholliday1588
    @docholliday1588 Жыл бұрын

    That's what we use to do 20 years ago. It does make a difference, when they start the stamping process. The edges of the cutting edge is sharp and clean. So the magazine's that came first 3,000 or 5,000 were cut cleanly. This is why some guns run and some more finicky. We would break the edges of the feed ramp, they were sharp from the machine cutting. The edges of the chamber throat, the top of the chamber, when the cartridges leave the magazine they hit the top of the chamber. The machined edges are sharp enough to drag on copper and brass, slowing down the cycling of the slide. That is they come with 20 and 18lb springs. Smooth out all the that I said and you can run a 14lb spring. Less muzzle flip and diving down during cycling. Good job on figuring this out.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Doc! I'm really enjoying that people like you are chiming in that have experience in the machining world. Thanks for watching!

  • @GusParera
    @GusParera Жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to the range report after mag fix. I hope to get minethis week. I purchased som stronger springs in case your fixes don't work (still hoping mine runs out of the box) thanks for the video.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Your wait is almost over, Gus! Uploading the range video as I'm typing. Please let me know how your Prodigy runs!

  • @chrishelms1967
    @chrishelms1967 Жыл бұрын

    Springfield is getting a fortune in free R & D from all these smaller channels....... Kinda weird that guns that went to channel with more than a million subscribers all function flawless 🤔

  • @ramos5464

    @ramos5464

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah . It’s f’d up. Those KZreadrs/stars should really stfu and apologize to people for over hyping this expensive pos.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sure that it was all a big coincidence, Chris! Stop being a conspiracy theorist that I agree with lol. And maybe I should send Springfield an invoice... Thanks, Chris!

  • @chrishelms1967

    @chrishelms1967

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining 😂😂😂😜

  • @seanoneil277

    @seanoneil277

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't say it's R&D it's more QA. This is what happens when executives determine a Must Have release date, and won't spend time or money or manpower on QA to make sure the guns run smoothly -- all of them. But I'm sure that would bump the price to $2k in the executives' way of seeing things. So why not just build & sell the $2k version? I don't mean it should cost another $500 in end price for such QA. If such QA is built into the system already, what's the incremental cost?

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seanoneil277 I think in the grand scheme of things, Sean, we would need to know what all of the most common problems are and see what the fix is. But maybe cost and extra 100 max. Or just absorb the cost and build a great low cost 2011, I mean 1911 DS

  • @blakenoble9468
    @blakenoble9468 Жыл бұрын

    So glad I watched this one. After I dove deeper into my mags and realized the springs where twisted about 25 degrees. And the follower was nose down instead of nose up when holding the spring. Also it was like the magazine was concave on the front side all the way down on the single stack section because the follower was dragging the walls and jumping over the one side or the other on the ride up instead of the center. So I ground and polished the plastic on each end. Twisted the springs streight and I could actually rack the smaller magazine from full all the way through the mag . Gunna shoot it tomorrow and see how it is live but it's the best results I've seen while messing with it since I got it a couple days ago.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice job working it out! Hopefully it’s smooth sailing tomorrow👍 I’m jealous that you are going to the range. A lot better option than what I’m doing

  • @blakenoble9468

    @blakenoble9468

    Жыл бұрын

    @Nobody Training gotta have some property, then you can jusy simply walk out back 🤌🤌

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s the dream! 40 acres and targets spread out!

  • @gipstetz6720
    @gipstetz6720 Жыл бұрын

    Super interesting, informative and helpful. Thanks so much for posting. New Sub also.

  • @stevelombardi2183
    @stevelombardi2183 Жыл бұрын

    Hey keep your thumb out of the trigger area when you unload so you don’t AD when you restore your fire pin.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s definitely not the way that I normally unload. Sitting off to the side and trying to keep everything in frame made it super awkward and that was just the best way so you could see it. I appreciate you looking out for me, stevE! And I appreciate you watching.

  • @princerob20101
    @princerob20101 Жыл бұрын

    I opened the magazine lips a little and got a 13 dollar spring mine works now it should have out the box I’m so happy now

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you found a solution that worked for you, 762. I need to get some 147grn and run them to make sure the mags will will feed. If not I may have to open as well. Thanks for watching the vid

  • @AR15ONA.
    @AR15ONA. Жыл бұрын

    Still waiting on mine to come in !! I will be doing that to the mags as soon as I get , then take it to the range !

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Let us know how it goes and if you do anything else to the Prodigy

  • @AR15ONA.

    @AR15ONA.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining sure will!

  • @sidanx7887
    @sidanx7887 Жыл бұрын

    I’m seeing many people thinking this 5inch is undersprung?? Great video

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Sidanx. It is if you don’t fix what shouldn’t have been issues to begin with. Hence the videos. It does run with the 9lb spring. Is it as positive as what some would want? Probably not. As a range gun I’m going to run the 9. If this was a carry/defensive pistol I’d go to a 12. Thanks for watching!

  • @eddiearchuleta615
    @eddiearchuleta615 Жыл бұрын

    2011 mags sometimes need to be tuned I even had to open my RIA 1911 double stack 10mm feed lips it pitches the round up into the feed ramp way better. My 5 inch prodigy I noticed last night I was running some snap caps through it and they were all scraped up I’m thinking the magazine feed lips are sharp and causing unnecessary friction I will polish mine up

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Years ago I was hearing that the 2011 mags needed to tuned. But it never seemed like it was a big deal and it was just something one did. It does appear to be wide spread that the feed lips are having the issue. I have 4 26 rnd mags coming from Springfield tomorrow and will see how they are. Several have commented about opening up the lips and getting positive results. Going to keep mine stock for as long as I can. Thanks for watching, Eddie!

  • @eddiearchuleta615
    @eddiearchuleta615 Жыл бұрын

    Open up the feed lip in the front you would be surprised how much it helps with the feed angle

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    So I mostly shoot 115 and 124s. I need to get some 147s and see how they are just for giggles. If they are problematic I might think about it. But I have to weight the fact that I don't shoot 147s...Thanks for watching Eddie

  • @jackomalley3687

    @jackomalley3687

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining also you can't slam magazine while slide is locked back or risk bending ejector it's why in would never buy any 2011 style pistols

  • @MDpolo
    @MDpolo Жыл бұрын

    Do you have a staccato mag? If not, it would be an interesting test if you can get your hands on one and see if it is the gun or if indeed it was the mags. Mine keeps having failures to extract, not failures to feed.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    No mag. If I was only having a failure to feed that would have been a great test, if the factory mags didn't have burs that were so obvious (once I paid attention to them that is...) When I did my initial strip and polish I looked at my chamber and could see some machining marks. Didn't know how bad they were since I had yet to fire/chamber a round. So I polished it anyway. I think it was the good move. If you have a dremmel its easy to do. I show a good hack in my first part 1 vid. If you don't have a dremmel, get one. They are useful for all kinds of stuff! Thanks for watching, MD!

  • @popsmorris5887
    @popsmorris5887 Жыл бұрын

    I think a lot of this reported failure to battery issue is actually due to the ceracoat on the guiderails and not the mags; that is my experience at any rate. Once the slide is "broken in", that ceracoat is worn down and the weapon properly lubed the problem tends to go away. Not uncommon for 1911 style pistols to require a somewhat significant break in.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Cerakote and a few other things were the issue so you are correct. Took care of that in the part 3 video. The mag problem is not the cerakote but the metal burrs from the stamping process. Not all of the mags had this problem but mine did. It was the final piece of the puzzle. Thanks for watching Pops!

  • @CPerault7

    @CPerault7

    11 ай бұрын

    100% correct. I racked/ dry fired my 4.25 maybe 300 times before taking it out. You can see the cerakote ooze out of the back of slide. Only issues I've had is a failure to lock w/17 rnd mag

  • @tylerthomas9059
    @tylerthomas9059 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting. The only issues I have had with mine is with the 17rd mag. Causes FTF literally every round. 20rd runs flawless. Makes me wonder if I have something similar to your mags going on.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Was it the same issue? Let me know. Sharing info helps others!

  • @Rocky-Stone
    @Rocky-Stone Жыл бұрын

    So have to do gunsmithing to get a expensive new gun to run....not good. Damn I was about to buy one, thanks for saving me.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    From the people I’ve spoken to, not all need to have something done. And most of what I’ve seen that needs done is pretty easy. But depends on your comfort level, Rocky. Thanks for watching!

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    From the people I’ve spoken to, not all need to have something done. And most of what I’ve seen that needs done is pretty easy. But depends on your comfort level, Rocky. Thanks for watching!

  • @Rocky-Stone

    @Rocky-Stone

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining yeah but it still sucks to have to work on a new fairly expensive gun...leaves a bitter taste.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Rocky-Stone I completely understand, Rocky. Doing what I do isn’t for everyone and that’s cool. Truth be told, I hope you do get one because they are a blast to shoot.

  • @mmarciniak
    @mmarciniak Жыл бұрын

    If a pistol is so sensitive that the smoothness of the magazine feed lips affects the ability of the slide to strip a round from the magazine and feed it fully into the chamber, then that pistol is junk! The Prodigy is NOT junk. The factors that contribute to its failure to feed are: 1) marginally weak recoil spring. 2) slide/rails that need broken in for a few hundred rounds. 3) slight drag created by the disconnector on the slide, which will smooth out by shooting the pistol and breaking it in over a couple hundred rounds.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, it isn't junk. I believe that Springfield tried to walk the line of a performance gun but didn't execute on the details. My feed lips had some nasty burrs that were doing way more damage to the case than they should have. Now, not every mag does this from what I have been hearing. I just received 4 26rnd mags that didn't have this problem and were smooth. But both the 17 and 20 that came with the gun had the problem. Time and rounds will tell the story on the recoil spring. I've played with the idea of eventually trying 10, 11, and 12lb springs. And ya you can definitely go out and put rounds downrange to break it in. I chose to do it on the bench top. Keep the opinions coming, Michael!

  • @theexpressionbooth
    @theexpressionbooth Жыл бұрын

    Looks like a bad habit to reach in the trigger guard to pull the slide back... Nice work though. I'm having a similar issue with a Glock. I'm trying to figure out what's causing it. I think it still needs to be broken in.

  • @buncha5651
    @buncha5651 Жыл бұрын

    Do you usually buy a new car / washing machine / lawn mower ect: and have to repair them ?

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Anything created by man can be flawed and therefore may need to be tweaked. If I have the time and inclination I prefer to do things myself. AND I enjoy working on guns, finding out how they operate and seeing if I can improve it. Besides, even the best things in life can have issues. Just because you spend a Buncha money (see what I did there? Bad dad jokes just come to me) doesn’t mean you will have a flawless experience. I appreciate you watching!

  • @brianstuart4203
    @brianstuart4203 Жыл бұрын

    I shot nothing but my hand loads through my prodigy until yesterday. Didn’t have time to load so I just bought some factory blazer ammo. It was a total shit show with that ammo. I realized the factory stuff has almost no crimp on it and when the bullet was feeding into the chamber it was catching on the edge of the brass. I’m going to run some through my crimp die and go shoot them and see what happens.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Those little corners at the top of the ramp do like to catch. You might want to save some of that blazer, radius and polish the edges, and then run the blazer. I would hate to think that you were condemned to crimp factory ammo for the rest of your life! 🤣 Good report sir!

  • @brianstuart4203

    @brianstuart4203

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining oh no I’ll just make sure to manage my time better reload instead of buying ammo 😂

  • @Drixels269
    @Drixels269 Жыл бұрын

    I owned XD9,but I can’t think of what happened to a new gun worth a bit pricey for me and giving consumers headache.

  • @tattoochef
    @tattoochef Жыл бұрын

    I've never understood the need to harp on a gun tuber from the comments about their safety protocols.

  • @gordonram9077
    @gordonram9077 Жыл бұрын

    Do you think the Prodigy will take Staccato Mags?

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it was Honest Outlaw, but I’ve definitely seen vids of them working.

  • @kevinfox1780
    @kevinfox1780 Жыл бұрын

    Does Mec-Gar make mags for this gun?

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Doing a quick search and it does not appear an option. Doesn't mean that they wont in the future. It will depend on if they can do it at the same or better quality level and most likely cheaper than Duramag. Just my guess. Thanks for watching the channel, Kevin

  • @matthewvolpe7515

    @matthewvolpe7515

    Жыл бұрын

    Not yet. I checked a few days ago myself.

  • @mitchschneider1927
    @mitchschneider1927 Жыл бұрын

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Mitch. And thanks for watching the vids! Just curious, do you have a Prodigy, if so, 5 or 4.25 and what issue(s) are you experiencing?

  • @deezTX
    @deezTX Жыл бұрын

    wow a lot a money to spend more time and possibly a bit of money to fix . waiting for a Taurus version then. LOL

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    It was actually a lot of fun to do, deez. Let me know what Taurus you get ;) Thanks for watching!

  • @b00m3rh4nd_sol
    @b00m3rh4nd_sol Жыл бұрын

    seeing the same thing on my mags

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    But super easy fix! Thanks for reporting in and for watching GG

  • @stevelombardi2183
    @stevelombardi2183 Жыл бұрын

    Otherwise good video

  • @paairmen7458
    @paairmen7458 Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like BB gun when you drop the slide weak recoil spring

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    It is a 9lb spring and it does work. Now the million dollar question is if it will work long term. Only rounds and time will tell that. I appreciate you watching, PA

  • @seanoneil277

    @seanoneil277

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining If it's like most historical 1911/2011 pistols, the need for greater recoil spring pressure probably will reduce over time -- not increase. The stronger spring helps overcome the slightly un-true mating/sliding/articulating surfaces, as do cleaning & lubrication. One way to explain how this is "normal" -- and thus familiar to striker-fired pistol users: the typical striker-fired pistol takes about 500-1k rounds for its trigger mechanism to smooth out. This is user-induced micro-wear on the articulating surfaces. Gunsmiths will simply disassemble the pistol, and use Flitz & stones to achieve that same micro-wear/polishing on the articulating surfaces. The need for precisely machined & mated surfaces to "wear in" used to be well acknowledged among tool-using, machine-using people. Somehow this has been lost during my lifetime. When I was a young man, it was well known that well-made machines with close tolerances are finicky when new and require kind attention.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seanoneil277 I missed a comment or 2 of yours, Sean but what I've caught up on is spot on. We've become an impatient society and expect everything to work and to be perfect. So many people don't work with their hands anymore and have lost that understanding of the mechanical. It's sad, really. These videos have the benefit of showing anyone who would just take the time to try that they can make a difference in the function of their Prodigy. And with simple tools. I see it everyday in my work life that people won't try something because everyone tells everyone else that they should have a professional do it for them. We have to get that can do attitude back in our culture. Thank you for your well articulated comments, Sean. Please keep them coming!

  • @Will-zy2pk
    @Will-zy2pk Жыл бұрын

    the fix is send it back to Springfield for no cost and not void your warranty

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    You are assuming that any of that is a concern to me or is of a greater value than what I could learn by doing it myself. But that’s just me. I have no problem with anyone who would rather send it back and if that’s what you want to do, go for it.

  • @infidel24
    @infidel24 Жыл бұрын

    Springfield built a piece of junk with this one. But, it seems you are figuring it out. I think soon, there are going to be better options at slightly better prices. Like the platypus. And they have a new 2011 coming that's supposedly going to drop for under a grand. It will be interesting to see if they can make the prodigy obsolete.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    The sad thing is that Springfield didn’t really make a piece of junk per say, they just didn’t execute on a lot of little details consistently. And hungry companies that are executing will take market share because all SA had to do we copy an existing platform and make it run. Frustrating. But if you want a project gun that will be a bullseye shooter it’s a fun way to go.

  • @matthewvolpe7515
    @matthewvolpe7515 Жыл бұрын

    Shouldn’t have to do any of this, unfortunately. I sent mine back to Springfield immediately after having this issue as well as magazine release issues. 2-4 weeks estimated turnaround time. Damn shame because the firearm is beautiful when it functions properly!

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    No but sometimes things happen and we have to take care of it the best we can. Once you get it back it will hopefully be as it should have been. And that being said, please let us know the quality of the rework when you get it. Thanks for watching, Matthew!

  • @matthewvolpe7515

    @matthewvolpe7515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining I debated replacing the disconnector and recoil spring, but I’ll leave it in their hands. I’ll update with whatever they decide to do, magazines included.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthewvolpe7515 it will be interesting to see how it comes back. My hope is that it exceeds your expectations

  • @matthewvolpe7515

    @matthewvolpe7515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining I don’t mind giving them the opportunity and time to make things right, as long as they make a valid attempt to remedy all issues. I don’t want to keep going back and forth with them, nor do I want to regret the purchase. I just want to shoot!

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthewvolpe7515 If it comes back and it’s not where it should be, let me know and I’ll be more than happy to help you get it over the finish line.

  • @blackrain6425
    @blackrain6425 Жыл бұрын

    No better than gi Springfield but double price

  • @brents1643
    @brents1643 Жыл бұрын

    Why not just return it to Springfield?

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Then I would learn nothing from the experience! And I just like to tinker with stuff.

  • @jackomalley3687
    @jackomalley3687 Жыл бұрын

    2 reason I will never buy this gun or any 2011. For starters with the slide locked back you have to be careful not to slam the magazine upward or you will eventually bend the ejector. The second thing is if you allow the slide to close without a round you can damage the trigger

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    I can’t speak for all 2011s or even 1911s since I’m still increasing my knowledge base on the platforms. From what I’ve seen with my 5” and 4.25” it would be really difficult to have a 17 or 20 round mag hit the ejector. The base pads hit the the bottom of the grip before the mag tube hits the ejector. About 1/16+\- of space. This isn’t the case for the 26 rnd mag. It can hit the ejector. What the results are with other mag brands are I don’t know. Maybe someone out there can speak to that. As for the round needed to drop the slide without damage…I don’t think it’s a big deal. At least not to me. I’m a striker pistol guy so I’m very used to dropping without a round (as my early vids will attest). Then several in the comments let me know that this is a no no and the why behind it. The change was easy for me and only takes a half second more to accomplish. The pros of the platform outweigh the cons in my mind. And the cons just aren’t that big of a deal in my opinion. But if it’s still a deal breaker for you, then luckily we live in a country (for now) in which there are a lot of different platforms to choose from! Nothing wrong with having preferences for different things. I still like my Glock overall. What is top of the list for you, Jack?

  • @jackomalley3687

    @jackomalley3687

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining I was at the local gun store and inserting the magazine in The prodigy you could clearly see the lip of the magazine making contact with the ejector and causing it to move up and down. I suppose a few slams with the mag won't hurt but over time it could definitely hurt the ejector Chris from honest outlaw was the KZreadr who said with 2011 style pistols should never close the slide on an empty magazine or risk damaging the trigger I ended up passing on The prodigy in spite of the fact that looks cool I think all 2011s can have issues with self-defense ammo and I'm not a big fan of stainless steel barrels I like Chrome lining since I'm very bad at keeping my guns well oiled. I ended up buying the Beretta m9a4 centurion half the price and equally a nice firearm

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jackomalley3687 I don’t doubt you saw what you saw, Jack. On both of my Prodigy’s it’s physically impossible for the mag to hit it without breaking the grip or base pad. I wish I could have seen what you saw. Would have been interesting to compare. The Prodigy does seem to require more TLC. More than I’m used to to be honest. But overall I think it’s been worth it. A blast to shoot. Maybe someday you’ll get a hold of one and get to put some rounds down range. I wouldn’t mind finding that Berretta and giving it a try!

  • @robertretford331
    @robertretford331 Жыл бұрын

    Dear God how much time and money are people going to invest in these things. There obvious issues with these guns. At the price you pay it should work, period.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    At the time I think it cost me a tube of Flitz, which is useful to have anyway, and the rest I already had. Sandpaper is cheap. And it was fun to learn and do. But the reason why I’m responding is because I wanted to ask you a sincere question. Based on your comment, why did you choose to watch this video? It seems that you aren’t interested in the gun and had probably already formed the opinion before hand. Just curious. Regardless of the answer, I appreciate that you watched.

  • @tc2540
    @tc2540 Жыл бұрын

    Unless you enjoy spending $1600 & fixing gun, go buy a BUL Armory, STI. (Hand fits & finished), or a CZ TSO. It is sad to see an American Co. turn out Chinese quality. 😔

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey TC! Luckily I do enjoy it. When I bought it I wasn't planning on having to do a whole lot. But from what I did do to it, SA didn't miss by a whole lot. And I've talked to plenty of people who have had zero issues. And so far, after tinkering, It's been super enjoyable to shoot. But like you said, there are other manufacturers. Spend your money and get what you want. I always recommend one of each :) Thanks for watching

  • @8BloodyKnuckles

    @8BloodyKnuckles

    Жыл бұрын

    I imagine the items Nobody used were already in his armorer tools. Polish, oil, sandpaper, diamond file… and an investment of his own personal time. I think most of us have these items. Regardless of the brand and price tag, it’s always good to have an idea of what to look for on your firearm if there is a malfunction. Even more important to know when to take it to a gunsmith. I traded guns that I haven’t used in ages for the 5” prodigy knowing that it’d have some issues as it’s a first generation. So I paid virtually next to nothing considering they were two pistols and an AK I’ve had since 98 and 2001. Aside from polishing internals and removing burrs the only added expense I’ve heard anyone feel the need to purchase has been a 12# recoil spring.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@8BloodyKnuckles Had everything but the Flitz, Red. But still a small purchase considering how useful it is. I do agree that most have what I used and if not, it wouldn't break the bank to get them or something similar to get the job done. I have to know...what was the ak?

  • @richardsteele6776
    @richardsteele6776 Жыл бұрын

    I have SA 1911s and SA XD pistols and never had a problem. This sadly looks like bad R&D on the part of Springfield Armory. Especially a $1,500. Gun. I don’t care if you have loaded ammunition on your table or if the gun is operational while you do your videos. I know how to handle my firearms. Society is full of babies that want to point out every little thing.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    You like to play by big boy rules like I do! I did it that way in case there was someone new who hasn't developed good discipline. And not hear about it from those whose face is melting down because I had a live round. Got to love internet ninjas! You are right on the Prodigy. My thought all along was that this thing should have been rolled out perfect to that it could gain a good rep in the market place. But what do we know?! 😂 Thanks for watching!

  • @richardsteele6776

    @richardsteele6776

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nobodytraining I can’t remember the guys name but he did a 60,000 round torture test on the then new Springfield XD9 pistol. He did unspeakable things to that gun. Only cleaned it once after 30,000 rounds. Not one failure. He got blisters from shooting it. I have five now.

  • @nobodytraining

    @nobodytraining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@richardsteele6776 My first thought is that even when 9mm was $.16/rnd that is still $10k after taxes! That’s some dedication. I hope he had help with it. I’ll try and find that video.

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