[Part 3/5] Debate: Peter Hitchens argues 'Great' Britain is a fantasy

Peter Hitchens argues for the motion, 'There's Not Much Great About Britain,' in this Intelligence Squared debate. Will Self, Peter Hitchens, Sayeeda Warsi and Kate Hoey, battle it out over whether we should be proud or ashamed of the country we live in.
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  • @olwens1368
    @olwens13684 жыл бұрын

    Oh dear- I am a few years younger than Hitchens, but this resonates so much. Brought up in small town in Scotland, taught to be proud of Scottish shipbuilding and it's contribution to the succcess of Great Britain and the British Empire, proud of our hard working town with its history of whaling, mining, chemical industries. In those days it was scruffy but the streets were swept regularly and if you called the police a constable would be there within minutes. If you were ill you went to the surgery & were seen within an hour. That same town is now 'tidied up', old important buildings are 'heritage' sites. not productive any more, and the town is basically a dormitory town for the nearby city. The heart and soul has gone, along with the shops. And the kids are taught to be ashamed of their past, not proud of it.

  • @SirAntoniousBlock

    @SirAntoniousBlock

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah and the pint costs more than it used to. 🙄

  • @TheClemcaster

    @TheClemcaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @William Hill You appear to have overlooked that Hitchens castigated both ends of the political spectrum - incidentally, 'gammon' is a term used for thick-necked, nationalistic Anglo-Saxons. I hope that bit of information comes in useful. And whilst Mr Hitchens makes some quite mordant observations, I think you'll also find that it is underinvestment by successive governments that have made the education system the mortally wounded creature that it has become, not the disappearance of grammar schools. Heavy industry has gone, because they build things cheaper in the East...that's capitalism for you; at any rate, enormous container vessels will become obsolete as technology transforms our requirements. It is the political right and conservatives generally that appear to view incipient green technology as at best a threat...at worst, and more outlandishly, 'a waste of time.' It is actually the dead hand of conservatism that will consign this country to the backwaters of history.

  • @TheClemcaster

    @TheClemcaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @William Hill You just did. 'Waffle?' Do I descdribe your brief outline as, 'overheated verbal diarrhoea?' No. I read it and decide that it is overheated, ill considered, poorly written angry man pub banter.

  • @TheClemcaster

    @TheClemcaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @William Hill Jolly good. Glad we sorted that out.

  • @TheClemcaster

    @TheClemcaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @William Hill William, it was really nothing. What really makes me feel confidant about the future, is the profundity contained in our exchanges...a feeling that all will be well now that the country is in the hands of men with your intellect, Bill.

  • @ralphdavidson9542
    @ralphdavidson95424 жыл бұрын

    The only good speaker on the stage - Peter Hitchens. His 10 minutes flew past. The others dragged. Wit, truth, intelligence and mastery of our language. Poetic, actually. Cheers Peter.

  • @babbaruff1045

    @babbaruff1045

    4 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more and totally admire his courage. He is in a league of his own in this current crazy climate.

  • @lingolarker9318

    @lingolarker9318

    2 жыл бұрын

    His public discourses in these sorts of settings are absolutely compelling.

  • @lingolarker9318

    @lingolarker9318

    2 жыл бұрын

    babba ruff He really is peerless as a reasoned, articulate debater.

  • @martinheath5947
    @martinheath59474 жыл бұрын

    This is what happens when your country is "run" by mediocre graduates with no work/life experience outside of politics, PR, media and journalism.

  • @user-sw2lv3zp6o

    @user-sw2lv3zp6o

    4 жыл бұрын

    You've got the right surname to say that!

  • @JonJon-rz5el

    @JonJon-rz5el

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, Winston Churchill was a correspondent in the Boer war, later a soldier, commanded and presided over the catastrophe of Gallipoli and then went to fight in the trenches due to his guilt! That is steel and conviction an idea of duty.

  • @JonJon-rz5el

    @JonJon-rz5el

    4 жыл бұрын

    What saddens me is when the wars come with the intolerance of Islam which will no longer be deniable, it will be the disgusting and appeasing wealthy left who can escape

  • @ParcelOfRogue

    @ParcelOfRogue

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JonJon-rz5el Sound like the National Front of the 70's. Then the BNP, then the EDL, then UKIP, then the Brexits, I wonder what happened to them and their nastiness? All gone!

  • @johnsmythe7940

    @johnsmythe7940

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are not mediocrity. They know precisely what they are doing. Up- class and Middle -Class bandits like their forefathers before them.

  • @ephphatha230
    @ephphatha2304 жыл бұрын

    What an awful voice at the start lol

  • @fergal2424

    @fergal2424

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was a woman until it showed him close up.

  • @niclasjohansson4333
    @niclasjohansson43334 жыл бұрын

    This "decline" is not only limited to Britain, the rest of Europe (at least the western part) is having the same symptoms.

  • @CelticSaint

    @CelticSaint

    4 жыл бұрын

    All being done by design.

  • @antikokalis

    @antikokalis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@billyjoel6352 No, Greece is. We are so far left as a country, that our supposedly center-right PM is a disgusting commie. We are beyond doomed

  • @Neater_profile

    @Neater_profile

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antikokalis Τι λες ρε μαλάκα.

  • @Sam-tz8ou

    @Sam-tz8ou

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@billyjoel6352 no its not!

  • @seanmoran2743

    @seanmoran2743

    Жыл бұрын

    The Stupidity of 1914 is still rippling through all European Countries

  • @chrisdavie8163
    @chrisdavie81634 жыл бұрын

    They should have given him an extra 50 minutes

  • @mememine69
    @mememine694 жыл бұрын

    "We shall never surrender" became "RUN HIDE TELL"

  • @stuartbritain8529

    @stuartbritain8529

    4 жыл бұрын

    Churchill is one of the main reasons we’re in the quagmire. Literal war mongering criminal.

  • @stuchambo9528

    @stuchambo9528

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stuartbritain8529 ... yeah okay mate....

  • @stuchambo9528

    @stuchambo9528

    4 жыл бұрын

    completely agree

  • @stuchambo9528

    @stuchambo9528

    4 жыл бұрын

    with meme mine

  • @sepehrdaghbandan7964
    @sepehrdaghbandan79644 жыл бұрын

    Higher education in UK is a disgrace, truly is.

  • @susannamarker2582

    @susannamarker2582

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you think it's too Woke ? We do. We home-schooled our children.

  • @adambritain5774
    @adambritain57744 жыл бұрын

    Never saw tickets for this. But appreciate literally any PH content. He is simply peerless.

  • @Intelligence-Squared

    @Intelligence-Squared

    4 жыл бұрын

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  • @adambritain5774

    @adambritain5774

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @MindbodyMedic

    @MindbodyMedic

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@adambritain5774 he demoralises people who want to 'go back to the future' and who understand the vicious anti white direction of western governments. he simply seems to have given up

  • @adambritain5774

    @adambritain5774

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well he's clearly given up. Most of his recent (last few years) interviews will tell you that, and will even tell you the reason why...! And he even tells you where you can find hope.

  • @kaygarner7727

    @kaygarner7727

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yet but a pale imitation of his brother.

  • @aidyledgard4582
    @aidyledgard45824 жыл бұрын

    He's not wrong. Agree with him completely. Society has had it. We make next to nothing. If we are honest, what can we say we are proud of these days? I'm struggling here.

  • @Saber23

    @Saber23

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then maybe this will finally be enough for you people to give up all of the illogical philosophies the western world has been built on

  • @seanmoran6510

    @seanmoran6510

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Saber23 That’s so vague it’s meaningless

  • @aidyledgard4582

    @aidyledgard4582

    2 жыл бұрын

    What's so vague?

  • @Warp75

    @Warp75

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aidyledgard4582 Your comment was not vague just the truth.

  • @roughdraught153
    @roughdraught1533 жыл бұрын

    Peter's so negative, yet I have to concede that he's right.

  • @greatdelusion7654

    @greatdelusion7654

    3 жыл бұрын

    ‘LET...GO'

  • @seanmoran6510

    @seanmoran6510

    3 жыл бұрын

    Negative in a positive manner

  • @user-yp7vf5lo8h

    @user-yp7vf5lo8h

    5 ай бұрын

    Peter isn't negative. The reality is.

  • @babbaruff1045
    @babbaruff10453 жыл бұрын

    I could listen to Peter Hitchens endlessly, his eloquence is truly a beautiful thing 👏👏👏

  • @seanmoran6510

    @seanmoran6510

    2 жыл бұрын

    @kinor Spielman Pathetic

  • @benphilips9918
    @benphilips99184 жыл бұрын

    'An Evening of Light Music and Laughter ' with Peter Hitchens.

  • @mikep7847

    @mikep7847

    4 жыл бұрын

    Of course the UNreformed Trot loves the fact that we're fucked.

  • @pintubackaga

    @pintubackaga

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @Belfreyite
    @Belfreyite4 жыл бұрын

    I don't need to listen to Peter Hitchin to understand just how far down the slope we have slipped. Just look around at the decaying infrastructure, the scruffy careworn people, the tons of litter that choke every hedgerow, the dirty unkept streets, the foul mouthed tirades that pass for entertainment, the appalling divorce statistics, the junkfood on our plates. What have we got here that resembles the best of mainland europe?

  • @laurie1183

    @laurie1183

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who cares about Europe? Britain nowadays is just a mess compared to what Britain was in our past.

  • @bogbay

    @bogbay

    4 жыл бұрын

    @William Hill Record number of non-Eu migrants came into the UK last year under a Tory government. Austerity for nine years imposed by the Tories because their banker pals went bust. What fucking planet are you on?

  • @laurie1183

    @laurie1183

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Niconoclastic Neoc Neoliberal is just something people call people they don't like. Nobody is actually a neoliberal.

  • @Belfreyite

    @Belfreyite

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Darren Gregg It is a comment. Albeit a rant to which I am entitled on here. From one Bufoon to another so to speak!

  • @markofsaltburn

    @markofsaltburn

    4 жыл бұрын

    eustace wozrite The Trotskyites joined the Conservatives a long time ago. Both sides have been played.

  • @tbone35453
    @tbone354534 жыл бұрын

    From the video description: 'Peter Hitchens argues against the motion, 'There's Not Much Great About Britain,' Peter Hitchens argued FOR the motion. This sloppy incompetence is an example of what Peter was talking about.

  • @seanmoran6510

    @seanmoran6510

    4 жыл бұрын

    tbone35453 He’s pouring a bucket of cold water over us and we need it !

  • @fredfredrickson5436

    @fredfredrickson5436

    4 жыл бұрын

    A personification of his own polemic. Amusing.

  • @frankhynd885
    @frankhynd8852 жыл бұрын

    Why is the UK involved in the anti-Chinese AUKUS pact? The Taiwan and Mainland China dispute is an internal Chinese issue and it is not a strategic UK concern which is 5,000 miles away.

  • @nigelft

    @nigelft

    2 жыл бұрын

    It isn't just between Taiwan, but also Hong Kong, with which many there still feels a deep connection with Britain, and certainly doesn't want anything to do with Mainland China ... and definitely do not want direct rule from Bejing. I'm still in touch with at least one class mate, of a comprehensive school here in London, England, who was born in Hong-Kong, who still has family there, and who is deeply concerned about what China may do to Taiwan and Hong-Kong both, as, as she told me, her friends in Taiwan don't want direct rule either. But they also dare not try and declare outright independence, given what happened in Tiananmen Square, in 1989 ... It is also about China's agressive moves into the South China Sea, which makes even India nervous, and certainly is of serious concern to both South Korea and Japan. Even Australia is concerned; so concerned, it broke off negotiations with France, over a contract for the latter to build brand new diesel-electric submarines for the Royal Australian Navy, and opted for, essentially, nuclear fast-attack subs, due to likely endurance limits of diesel-electric, even though diesel-electric are more acoustically quieter, when running on its batteries. However the same which, if paired with a nuclear reactor(s), can be recharged whilst still near maximum depth, without needing a snorkel like device, at periscope depth. And I suspect the torpedo tubes are now sized to fit sea launched cruise missiles, and anti-ship missiles, at near sea-level, that's between sonar, and radar, detection ... And don't forget ... both Australia and New Zealand both have the Union Jack in the upper left hand corners of their flags ... You may as well say that the Falkland Islands aren't part of the UK, despite the Islanders themselves wanting to stay British, but keeping the Union Jack on their flag ... ... and they are considerably further away than 5,000 miles ... So, if the Pact between Australia, the UK, and the US, is anti-Chinese, it came about as China has pushed the boundaries of what is considered their littoral waters to the limit ... It takes alot to make Australia as a nation worried ... but seeing China building islands as close to international waters as they (China) dare, is making Australia nervous ... especially if those islands are stable enough for ballistic missile launches ... I'm pretty sure that if Japan, and South Korea expands into the South China Sea, Bejing will treat that as an act of aggression ... The great game of chess between America and the Soviets has become a large table of No Limits Texas Hold'em ...

  • @thelastdetail1
    @thelastdetail13 жыл бұрын

    Peter Hitchens is a first-class public speaker and debater and it shows, whether you agree with him or not. If only the House of Commons were full of such thoughtful intellects on either side of the House. Imagine what might be achieved.

  • @billyb6001
    @billyb60014 жыл бұрын

    I love peter. his brother would be proud. he would disagree with him on so much but would be proud.

  • @darrenalway4687

    @darrenalway4687

    4 жыл бұрын

    Creep!

  • @seanmoran6510

    @seanmoran6510

    3 жыл бұрын

    Suckered in by CH charm and polemic propagandist chatter, poor you.

  • @lingolarker9318

    @lingolarker9318

    2 жыл бұрын

    One would hoooope so😄. But he did say some pretty rude things about him whilst still well.

  • @billyb6001

    @billyb6001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lingolarker9318 true. I've only seen their debates and a couple interviews about it.

  • @seanmoran2743

    @seanmoran2743

    Жыл бұрын

    Christopher Hitchens equals American Dominance via its military industrial complex Trotskyist Globalist that the yanks are to dumb to see

  • @gustavoboom8448
    @gustavoboom84484 жыл бұрын

    Britain, as well as most of Western Europe is happily orchestrating its own demise. Europe is rapidly being conquered by invading non European hordes, all the while convinced that this is it is a good thing. It makes me sad to realize it is too late.

  • @Kitiwake

    @Kitiwake

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eugenics is the real culprit.

  • @revol148

    @revol148

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Gustavo Boom no country has an automatic right to first world status - it needs to be fought for.Free market capitalism - once the driving force of European innovation and supremacy is now turning against us due to centuries of complacency.If you want to see what the future looks like go to Bangalore, Singapore or Shanghai NOT Athens, Madrid nor Rome.

  • @NLJeffEU

    @NLJeffEU

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@revol148 when did you uses anything that wasnt designed by europeans? Azia looks impressive because they dont have to design anything. They just buy/steal shit and use it with 4billion people.

  • @revol148

    @revol148

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@NLJeffEU I agree with everything you've typed but I was thinking about the future not the present.Take a look at the Coronavirus crisis - the Chinese are stepping in and sending medical supplies to the Italians ! As for the coming European-wide recession after the crisis - I guess for countries like Greece and Spain it doesn't matter anymore - just rack up more debt that they will never be able to pay off to the European central bank.

  • @revol148

    @revol148

    4 жыл бұрын

    @krosnoslova morinova along with most of western Europe

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey3454 жыл бұрын

    @IntelligenceSquared Will you please increase the volume chosen for upload? Even on full volume it’s rather quiet...

  • @williambeaumont1312
    @williambeaumont13123 жыл бұрын

    What made Britain ‘Great’ was its connection with the Old Testament. The right to property, that even the state could not tax or take away, (Naboth’s reply to king Ahab). The right to jury trial, everyone under the law. The right to “innocent until proven guilty. Life for a life, the justice system. That was what made Great Britain great.

  • @WilliamMallinson
    @WilliamMallinson4 жыл бұрын

    Well doine, Peter Hitchens! As long ago as 1977, I was reading the FCO PUSs Christmas message to staff, which suggested that Britain should stop trying to behave like a world power. But jingoism and individual greed then got in the way. It still does.The fact is that we piggy back the US, to paste hairs onto our chests. As for Trident, it seems bizarre that the British taxpayer should pay US shareholders up to 100 billion quid, in order to me targetted by Moscow. Professor William Mallinson, former British diplomat and author of 'Behind the Words' and of 'The Threat of Geoplolitics to International Relations'.

  • @dellmanification
    @dellmanification4 жыл бұрын

    We were given the name Great Britain by the French to distinguish Bretagne (Brittany) and Grande Bretagne (Britain)

  • @jonnutter

    @jonnutter

    4 жыл бұрын

    ... and it was because of size rather than any kind grand achievements therein

  • @ralphdavidson9542

    @ralphdavidson9542

    4 жыл бұрын

    No that was "Greater Britain ". A long time before that it got the name Great to distinguish the larger land mass from smaller ones in the isles. True it has never meant 'good' or anything similar.

  • @Mr_Lo_
    @Mr_Lo_4 жыл бұрын

    Is it any surprise that this was hidden from my subscription inbox?

  • @carefulconsumer8682
    @carefulconsumer8682 Жыл бұрын

    Whose speech did he memorize at 10:14 min? The words were slurred so I could not understand him. Thanks.

  • @ylracci
    @ylracci3 жыл бұрын

    what was it that sir Humphrey sat about Trident..its deterrent...lol

  • @dl240787
    @dl2407874 жыл бұрын

    The chair of this debate is hopeless.

  • @williambuxton8223
    @williambuxton82234 жыл бұрын

    Love this man!

  • @Siddhartha02
    @Siddhartha024 жыл бұрын

    One word. Rotherham.

  • @aquilatempestate9527

    @aquilatempestate9527

    4 жыл бұрын

    One word. Treason.

  • @Mister.Weatherbee

    @Mister.Weatherbee

    4 жыл бұрын

    Telford, Rochdale, Oxford... 20,000 a year. Every town. Every city.

  • @uioplkhj

    @uioplkhj

    4 жыл бұрын

    You cannot blame muslims for everything

  • @Siddhartha02

    @Siddhartha02

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@uioplkhj Who are you responding to? No one has said anything close to "everything in the world is the fault of Muslims". I'm stunned, are there really people in the world that are as dumb as you? Or maybe you can't read, but you managed to write that pointless reply. Either way, wow man, just wow.

  • @uioplkhj

    @uioplkhj

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Siddhartha02 We all know what you were referring to. Don't play the stunned puppy card, when their are cookie crumbs on your face.

  • @janed5197
    @janed51974 жыл бұрын

    Peter's " we are arguing a case " !! 😂👋 Against the greatness

  • @benanson
    @benanson3 жыл бұрын

    Finally, someone who shares my opinion.

  • @sebastianbooth5659
    @sebastianbooth56594 жыл бұрын

    Peter Hitchens is just outstanding.

  • @babbaruff1045
    @babbaruff10454 жыл бұрын

    Aww I just love Peter Hitchens 👏👏👏

  • @petermaxwell2965
    @petermaxwell29652 жыл бұрын

    Did not even know he had a brother, also smart and vocal .

  • @SagaciousFrank
    @SagaciousFrank4 жыл бұрын

    Where are Parts 2 and 4 of this debate? I can view Parts 1, 3, and 5. Granted I'm here because Peter Hitchens is speaking, but I would like to hear the whole debate nonetheless.

  • @Intelligence-Squared

    @Intelligence-Squared

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can watch all parts of the debate here: kzread.info/head/PLkZmdWVCTDvaqVqF1qOnXIevBungbDp6u Thanks for watching!

  • @SagaciousFrank

    @SagaciousFrank

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Intelligence-Squared, thank you. I managed to stumble across the 2nd and 4th videos much further down the 'Up Next' list on KZread, presented as a column on the right hand side of the screen. This seems to me to be an issue with KZread's algorithms.

  • @RIP_Greedo
    @RIP_Greedo3 жыл бұрын

    Could it be possible that major construction projects like the ones he mentioned might take longer now because we have things like workers rights and safety standards?

  • @michaelneal3041

    @michaelneal3041

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps. But if so...is the decline worth what "safety" has provided?

  • @pastyman001
    @pastyman0013 жыл бұрын

    I don't share Hitchins obsession with manners, social control, or religion. But he is right about the UK's overblown self importance and it's decline into mediocrity

  • @HIMYMTR

    @HIMYMTR

    2 жыл бұрын

    Manners make the person, the person makes the nation.

  • @fisher1907
    @fisher19074 жыл бұрын

    Peter Hitchens is so depressing. His so right though 😥🙄

  • @fisher1907

    @fisher1907

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rad Derry I don’t know bout that. Britain’s depressing atm the country’s going through abit of a identity crisis. I think the whole worlds abit depressing atm. Also we’ve just been through the wettest winter every recorded that in its self is quite depressing.

  • @fisher1907

    @fisher1907

    4 жыл бұрын

    Darren Gregg I’ve read it. 👍. I love your optimism we need more people like you here. Like I said in my other comments Britain’s going through abit of an identity crisis. Plus I think the whole worlds quite depressing atm.

  • @fisher1907

    @fisher1907

    4 жыл бұрын

    Darren Gregg Lmao 😂. I get fed up with the shit weather about this time of year lol. I drive a nice car got a nice house a great job and only 29. This country to does work for you ,if you wanna work for it. I can understand why Peter Hitchens moans. He moans about thing to spark change and give people food for thought. Without the pessimist we’d just think we’re awesome and never move forward.

  • @fisher1907

    @fisher1907

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rad Derry Not sure that true really. My Mrs literally messed up everything when she left school. Then she decided to go in a different direction now she’s a doctor on 70k a year she didn’t know anyone. I’m not gonna say I didn’t know anyone because I did but I still jumped through hoops to get where I needed to be. And the decline is real but the decline is decline of an empire the worlds a different place we are a different country. We could be better. I know but if you look through history we’re a lot better off than we was then.

  • @fisher1907

    @fisher1907

    4 жыл бұрын

    Darren Gregg Britain needs air con lol.

  • @TheMrgoodmanners
    @TheMrgoodmanners Жыл бұрын

    The only reason why the UK never saw any of the social upheavals that plagued continental europe till the mid 20th century is because brits could immigrate en masse to other regions. When things got tougher they could go to Australia NZ, canada or any of the colonies they had in Africa at the time. Were the UK not an imperial power it and the monarchy to be precise would have suffered the same fate as imperial germany in the end

  • @generaljackripper666
    @generaljackripper6663 жыл бұрын

    They never let Peter speak long enough.

  • @susannamarker2582

    @susannamarker2582

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because they know he is right.

  • @paulwilliamson9457
    @paulwilliamson94574 жыл бұрын

    I only wish there were more people talking sense like Peter

  • @lapamful
    @lapamful Жыл бұрын

    Well, this was uploaded on the 5th March 2020 just as hell on earth was about to be unleashed. Would anyone like to try and contradict what Peter said now?

  • @jacobfield4848
    @jacobfield484810 ай бұрын

    Old man shouting at clouds and romanticising his youth.

  • @thevo4100
    @thevo41004 жыл бұрын

    I see Will Self is in no hurry to share that bag of sweets he has in his pocket.

  • @malcolmcanning548
    @malcolmcanning5484 жыл бұрын

    It's a sceptic tank if you know what I mean.

  • @TalkernateHistory
    @TalkernateHistory3 жыл бұрын

    "I am the sepulchral voice"

  • @johnfitzjohn4300
    @johnfitzjohn43003 жыл бұрын

    I can listen to Peter all day the man tell,s you the. TRUTH. So rare today

  • @Barmforth
    @Barmforth4 жыл бұрын

    Civilisations rise and fall as the struggles to create them are forgotten by the generations that only know the ease and luxury they inherited. There is a way to fall yet before we start any kind of 'renaissance'. Not nostalgia, just pragmatism.

  • @chrisgriffiths2533
    @chrisgriffiths25334 жыл бұрын

    Some good points here. You need to be as Familiar with Gloom as Optimism, but there is some Neuances to these.

  • @robsol123
    @robsol1233 жыл бұрын

    Why have they got an actual goblin presenting and where did they get him from? 😂😂

  • @Asl6uk

    @Asl6uk

    3 жыл бұрын

    I could see him as a Harry Potter character.

  • @robsol123

    @robsol123

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Asl6uk 😂😂

  • @edifiedreader
    @edifiedreader2 жыл бұрын

    Moderator: Lift our spirits! Peter: Yeah...

  • @lesbatty84
    @lesbatty844 жыл бұрын

    Neros warming up,crash,bang,wallop the Empires death rattle lol

  • @scottwhat3362
    @scottwhat33624 жыл бұрын

    First coherent argument.

  • @gjingodjango
    @gjingodjango4 жыл бұрын

    People just want to wake up in the morning knowing that they can afford the country they live in. It’s not rocket science.

  • @Knappa22
    @Knappa22 Жыл бұрын

    He is very eloquent and there are grains of truth in much of what he says but in reality it is very easy to be a wrecker like him. Farage is the same (though not in the same intellectual league as Hitchens). Neither of them are builders, neither of them are creators. They just moan about things that they think are wrong. And that's easy to do. Any old man in a pub can do that.

  • @l3enz0
    @l3enz04 жыл бұрын

    Great Britain is the largest Island in the British Isles , hence the Great . That is all . It means nothing else . Never has .

  • @fatfat1877

    @fatfat1877

    4 жыл бұрын

    No shit sherlock.

  • @l3enz0

    @l3enz0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@fatfat1877 And yet , here's a whole debate implying otherwise ...

  • @fatfat1877

    @fatfat1877

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@l3enz0 They arent implying otherwise, they are arguing about whether Britain is great or not.

  • @l3enz0

    @l3enz0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@fatfat1877 lol

  • @fatfat1877

    @fatfat1877

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@l3enz0 Im laughing at your failure at being at smartass.

  • @seanmoran6510
    @seanmoran65104 жыл бұрын

    Of course we are lesser than we were ! All Empires decline it’s how they do it that matters A lesson how not to manage Imperial Decline has been demonstrated Only time will tell if the English Empire will stand I’m not holding my breath

  • @tommoon5063
    @tommoon50634 жыл бұрын

    Dumb down and replace. Who would do such a thing. On point with hard truths, but who cares anymore?

  • @Hollows1997

    @Hollows1997

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Darren Gregg No, it’s not just the UK. Soviet infiltration of American culture and academia (as explained by Yuri Bezmenov) made sure that the same infiltration spread all throughout western civilisation because of American culture becoming almost universal throughout western nations. How can you not be dour when you realise that not only is your house on fire but that you’re powerless to stop it.

  • @28pbtkh23
    @28pbtkh232 жыл бұрын

    Unbelievable! Who else knew that HMS Dreadnought was built in a year and a day??

  • @richards9407
    @richards94074 жыл бұрын

    Depressing but true. Peter says what a lot of us think, but he has the courage to stand up and say it. But who was that complete knob who introduced him?

  • @seanmoran6510

    @seanmoran6510

    4 жыл бұрын

    richards9407 A university knob

  • @stuartbritton7408
    @stuartbritton74084 жыл бұрын

    We have lost the simple moral values of our grandparents and previous generations. We now treat them with contempt. This is what is wrong with us.

  • @samkam2319

    @samkam2319

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stuart Britton not all of them were great mate, they invaded various lands, caused untold deaths, but some of them sacrificed their lives in ww1/ww2 to defend our islands, it’s not black and white mate

  • @stuartbritton7408

    @stuartbritton7408

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Darren Gregg 'Racism' and 'sexism'. Two fake words make up by the Instagram generation do-gooders. You don't know what you are saying. It is a tragedy that we have lost those old values. If we had those attitudes today, we would all be much better off. But we don't and we're not. We have modern values. Where are we now? We can't even go out for a walk any more or shopping or to the pub. Do you think our grandparents would put up with being treated like that?

  • @CelticSaint

    @CelticSaint

    4 жыл бұрын

    And kill them off in nursing homes by placing people infected with a virus into the nursing homes instead of into hospitals.

  • @Saber23

    @Saber23

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CelticSaint as an Arab I seriously hate this idea that “elders just don’t get it” it’s stupid and foolish Britain should abandon it

  • @philiplarkin7908

    @philiplarkin7908

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stuartbritton7408 When someone uses do-gooder as a negative they've lost the argument. Doing good is good. Only those who can't help but do wrong would have an issue with people who do good.

  • @michellefrench9240
    @michellefrench92404 жыл бұрын

    The achievements of Great Britain and it's glorious past happened by enslaving it's working clasees and the natives of the many countries of the Empire. Had the Great Western Railway (one of the exaples that Hitchens used) been built by workers paid a decent wage and had good working conditions it would have cost a lot more and took a lot loonger, all the great achievements of Britain industrial past were builtr on the backs of the ordinary worker. Many of the them paid with their lives.. What is good -not great- is that most workers don't have go through that to earn a living these days

  • @Hollows1997

    @Hollows1997

    3 жыл бұрын

    To quote the song Sit Down by James: “If I hadn't seen such riches, I could live with being poor” Life was a lot simpler back then. Although they most likely knew they were working incredibly hard, they appreciated the outcome of their work.

  • @seanmoran2743

    @seanmoran2743

    2 жыл бұрын

    Things are still built on the ordinary worker oh but wait we live in a country that won’t even pick its own food Where we are run by metropolitan bourgeoisie elites who love cheap labour Enough of your Marxist bilge The poor would still be poor under your rule

  • @Sam-tz8ou

    @Sam-tz8ou

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said

  • @thdoom81

    @thdoom81

    6 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU...finally someone with some sense

  • @johnbobson1557
    @johnbobson15572 жыл бұрын

    He's absolutely correct!

  • @neilsavage8915
    @neilsavage89154 жыл бұрын

    I would not trust Piers Morgan who said that he did not believe that it was ethically wrong to hack someone's phone when the phone hacking was discovered.

  • @abrogard142
    @abrogard1423 жыл бұрын

    so what happened? did he win his point? he convinced me.

  • @mikegalvin361
    @mikegalvin3612 жыл бұрын

    He seems to just tell it as it is.

  • @Longshanks1690
    @Longshanks16904 жыл бұрын

    Peter has probably the only rational viewpoint in this series. Britain is not great because it’s system and culture is degraded beyond repair, not because we’re a country of racist bigots incapable of progress. Likewise, we’re not great simply because we have a past to be proud of since our present is abysmal. We can be great again, if only we actually did what we needed to do to get there.

  • @Longshanks1690

    @Longshanks1690

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Frankly Frank *Sigh* Way to miss the point entirely. Every nation has profited from slaves in it's past. Britain is unique in profiting from their liberation. Every major power instigates conflict. The British Empire was unique in settling them down where it ruled. If you think Britain is the worst for bigotry, please visit Eastern Europe, lmao. Still proud because of the foundation of liberty, freedom of religion, limited monarchy, representative democracy, capitalism and too many inventions to name which have benefited mankind immensely. But that's not the point. Obsessing over the past is useless whether to demonise or glorify when our present is so miserable and wretched that we can scarcely call ourselves free, let alone great.

  • @RD-uf6gw

    @RD-uf6gw

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Frankly Frank Oh, fuck off with the colonial guilt shtick, would you?

  • @SirAntoniousBlock

    @SirAntoniousBlock

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Longshanks1690 _"The British Empire was unique in settling them down where it ruled."_ Ireland Cyprus Palestine Nigeria Sth Africa India/Pakistan/Afghanistan? And you wonder why half the world hates you.

  • @SirAntoniousBlock

    @SirAntoniousBlock

    4 жыл бұрын

    @William Hill I've got no "remoaning tears" 😂 I can't wait till Scotland is free and Ireland reunited.

  • @SagaciousFrank

    @SagaciousFrank

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Twenty Faces, independent, self-determined, free, prosperous, secure, efficient, competent, cultured and grown up, would be my guess.

  • @thegrimreaper4915
    @thegrimreaper49153 жыл бұрын

    In an age where the minority is looked after, the majority is ignored, the priority, is normally given to the minority, these days, with this virus, the short comings of that are only to apparent, and governments are being forced to deal with that policy in a very realistic way, which is funny, as the pc mind set is such a fragile thing. Therefore, this dealing with reality is painful for them, and it will take a long time for them to address in a contextual way. This came to me whilst was doing some soup

  • @EuropeanQoheleth
    @EuropeanQoheleth4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not a conservative or whatever he calls himself but I do find Peter Hitchens an entertaining and insightful guy.

  • @jbolanowski1

    @jbolanowski1

    3 жыл бұрын

    same :)

  • @abhimanyukarnawat7441

    @abhimanyukarnawat7441

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Adneuer a conservative?

  • @sticksman1979
    @sticksman1979 Жыл бұрын

    Hitch knows the score.

  • @riccardoverde4683
    @riccardoverde46834 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know who we owe the national debt TO?

  • @adambritain5774

    @adambritain5774

    4 жыл бұрын

    The money lenders.

  • @riccardoverde4683

    @riccardoverde4683

    4 жыл бұрын

    Anti-semite!

  • @oldboy5001

    @oldboy5001

    4 жыл бұрын

    The financial institutions who created the money by typing some digits into a computer.

  • @Robertodb2012

    @Robertodb2012

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who ever bought the government debt usually in the form of bonds.

  • @Robertodb2012

    @Robertodb2012

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also all Blairs buddy's he has made even richer with the PFI scheme which financially enslaves us for decades.

  • @stephenlawrence4821
    @stephenlawrence48213 жыл бұрын

    I don't think people entertain a fantasy that Britain is great. We are certainly lucky to be here at this time compared to almost all other times and other places. If Peter Hitchens had his way it would be far worse. Wed be in the dark ages before we knew it.

  • @Willtext
    @Willtext4 жыл бұрын

    Truth Bombs galore! 💣

  • @stephenkerensky710
    @stephenkerensky710 Жыл бұрын

    The `great` isn`t moral approval, it`s just a geographical designation for a country with 6000 islands.

  • @Hwd371
    @Hwd37111 ай бұрын

    “Intellectuals” are always nearby when great countries fall…

  • @stephenbrown4211
    @stephenbrown42113 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to people like Hitchens who are trying to destroy it

  • @baronmeduse
    @baronmeduse2 жыл бұрын

    Peter is really lamenting the 'merry England' Will Self said never existed. Such people tend to think other countries are doing spectacularly in comparison, while the home country collapses from moral decline. Failing to to see that Britain's promotion and export of monetarism actually destroyed itself and other places.

  • @lecco666
    @lecco6663 жыл бұрын

    Peter is a professional miserabilist.

  • @patrickstaunton2185
    @patrickstaunton21854 жыл бұрын

    I have always found Peter Hitchens to be somewhat docile. Replete as those floundering.

  • @Michellemutts7848
    @Michellemutts78482 жыл бұрын

    It was great until the government brought it to it's knees

  • @joshuaadams-leavitt4603
    @joshuaadams-leavitt46034 жыл бұрын

    What is wrong with the hosts voice?

  • @user-uw9zn7ob1s

    @user-uw9zn7ob1s

    4 жыл бұрын

    Posho

  • @withaak
    @withaak Жыл бұрын

    Vainglorious is the word.

  • @seekingsomething9026
    @seekingsomething90264 жыл бұрын

    Well. He's right.

  • @MidnightRambler
    @MidnightRambler4 жыл бұрын

    Is this guy ever happy?

  • @ronanp100

    @ronanp100

    4 жыл бұрын

    When he walks a leafy lane in England's green and pleasant land, I imagine.

  • @YouTubeIsAssHo
    @YouTubeIsAssHo4 жыл бұрын

    FFS, the "Great" in Great Britain just means "big," i.e. relative to Ireland.

  • @2506JJhudson1990

    @2506JJhudson1990

    4 жыл бұрын

    Relative to Bretagne (Britannia).

  • @YouTubeIsAssHo

    @YouTubeIsAssHo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@2506JJhudson1990 Fair enough - I always thought that traditionally Ireland was Little Britain and England/Scotland/Wales was Great Britain, but will concede to your better knowledge!

  • @ghostdog4330
    @ghostdog43304 жыл бұрын

    Probably wasn't a good idea to flog off the family silver but then the Tories won't rest until nothing is left.

  • @baldwinsculptor1
    @baldwinsculptor14 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely right Peter. The truth well said. I cannot wait to leave myself! Barry Baldwin, Sculptor, Writer, and Professor.

  • @neilsavage8915
    @neilsavage89154 жыл бұрын

    I would not trust Schofield who hid what he was from his wife nor would I trust Holly either who must have been aware of what he was.

  • @theconversation9103
    @theconversation91034 жыл бұрын

    All these commentators agreeing but we're all responsible. Vast majority wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting an A in a Maths A-level and wouldn't bother go back to night school to even try

  • @Hollows1997
    @Hollows19972 жыл бұрын

    Soberingly true, we truly are in the death rattle of our former glory… the sick man of Europe indeed.

  • @dr.leftfield9566
    @dr.leftfield95664 жыл бұрын

    Isn't PH as talented and astute with his choice of words as his brother was i mean you understand it don't you. However i am surprised this subject matter is brought to this forum as it generally refers to whether we are a world power still. I think surely we all know the answer to that for me the interesting point would be name a time when it was the beginning of the end. As for proud or ashamed well i'll leave that to personal opinion.

  • @divvy1400yam600
    @divvy1400yam6004 жыл бұрын

    I general I support Hitchens' view of the depressive failing state of the UK except in this vid. his lament at the removal of the 11+ It is blindingly obvious that children develop at different rates due to mental and SOCIAL circumstances. Making important decisions at 11 is preposterous. Comprehensive education for ALL with discipline , selection and using any teaching method that is known to produce results , UK public school approaches if necessary.

  • @265petsar
    @265petsar4 жыл бұрын

    More mouth than sense. He is trying to live up to his brothers heights, the difference is his brother was intellectually sensible and argued reasonable views. This guy has very little to say other than the fact he loves the sound of his own voice.

  • @nilsalmquist9424
    @nilsalmquist94244 жыл бұрын

    Good old Hitch.

  • @MrMassivefavour
    @MrMassivefavour4 жыл бұрын

    I like any sentence that begins with "so" not annoying at all!

  • @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
    @ijustwannaleaveacommentony65114 жыл бұрын

    brought up to know by heart John of Gaunt's dying speech. now our children are brought up to hate themselves and their country and to only value "ethnic art" and to believe that actually "shakespeare's plays were really written by a black woman" how many school leavers now would even know john of gaunt? i love my country, but i was raised to hate it. it's only by being away that i realize the value of patriotism, and we have given it away, thrown it away with indoctrination and propaganda being used to brainwash us into embracing our own conquerors

  • @seanthompson3938

    @seanthompson3938

    4 жыл бұрын

    what are you on about, the writings of a mad man I love my country was never brought up to hate it even served in the army but I'm not a patriot, patriotism breeds idiots who blindly follow orders and act in hatful ways to anything that threatens there idea of there nation.

  • @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511

    @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@seanthompson3938 maybe we're different generations. there always seemed to be a vein of guilt for the british empire and all of the "bad things" and a devaluing of our own culture while pedestalising anything foreign

  • @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511

    @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@seanthompson3938 maybe we're different generations. there always seemed to be a vein of guilt for the british empire and all of the "bad things" and a devaluing of our own culture while pedestalising anything foreign

  • @seanthompson3938

    @seanthompson3938

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 for years we as a country have only ever celebrated the empire and there is a lot to celebrate and also a lot to reflect on I don't believe in historical guilt, but to look back and not see the invention of the concentration camp, what we did to Ireland during the famine, India during are rule of it, slavery. You don't become the biggest empire in history by being "nice" we all look back on the Roman empire and say look at all there achievements in amazement but we also say it was a brutal empire which killed millions you can do both. But patriotism is a disease that coursed 2 world wars.

  • @CelticSaint

    @CelticSaint

    4 жыл бұрын

    The left ALWAYS destroy they NEVER create or build. They only know hatred.

  • @DomhnallOSuileabhainPrin-tm1fw
    @DomhnallOSuileabhainPrin-tm1fw4 жыл бұрын

    Hitchens is very wise and interesting on many subjects but like so many with his political idealogy, when it comes to Ireland they become inane and almost hysterical in their utterances.

  • @seanmoran6510

    @seanmoran6510

    4 жыл бұрын

    Domhnall Ó Súileabháin Prince of Beare Really oh those lovely Marxists I mean Sinn Fein The Che Guevara wanna be’s

  • @larrym12
    @larrym124 жыл бұрын

    At best the UK is the 2nd greatest Hunger games society in the world after the USA I know why but no one knows how to exit the Hunger games

  • @MeStevely
    @MeStevely4 жыл бұрын

    Chancellor of the University of Buckingham? Enough said.

  • @YorickReturns

    @YorickReturns

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Jason Wong Wrong. The right is against the free market. Not that the University of Buckingham is particularly private. It's still highly regulated.

  • @CelticSaint

    @CelticSaint

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Jason Wong 'CUNTS'! Yeah, you're definitely a leftist. Stop indoctrinating young people with your filthy Marxism.

  • @13strange67
    @13strange672 жыл бұрын

    Who or what the hell is that mincing queen of a moderator ! ?