Jump kick: how to beat any brawler.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, pretty much! lol

@migueldias8546

3 жыл бұрын

It evens work very well with the Mortal Kombat series, including Mortal Kombat 11 I played recently...

@jamesragsdale3069

3 жыл бұрын

@@migueldias8546 MK is a joke, though

@migueldias8546

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesragsdale3069 I always understood the appeal of the fatalities. But I could beat the orginal game without using a special move, just jump kicks are enough... Still works with Mortal Kombat 11. So it's good they kept it. MK11 is the first game in the series I enjoyed (for few days) because it's fun but as a versus game, it's a joke, we agree. But don't say that too loud, it's not a popular opinion...

@raiden_is_dj

3 жыл бұрын

jump kick bare kuckle 3 then

To call this video a review is underrated. This is a documentary! Mighty well done, mate!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Aw thanks man!

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you'll enjoy it! :D

@darkchild130

3 жыл бұрын

ME TOO

Makes me wonder...if the mystery game that Watermelon Games is working is related to the Shockwave Supersonic Squad postcard

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, I wish, but I doubt it. The shockwave game looks like a Rez-inspired title, but the page for this new game says it's a beat'em up.

Sounds like this Fonzie guy really jumped the shark.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

haha!

Back in 2019-01-27, when you made your first video on Paprium, did you think you would be holding a copy of it today, or did you think the game was dead?

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I thought for sure it was dead. Glad I was wrong lol

Great review my friend, to be honest it’s still all sinking in. It was great to work on the soundtrack along with some great friends. Trevin (Jredd) was the perfect guy to work with as we could always come up with ideas. Seriously without his help this soundtrack wouldn’t have been half as good. Tiido really did an amazing job with the tools that we used for composing the soundtrack, adding whatever new features we asked for. Tulio because in all honesty I don’t think we would have got very far without his positive attitude, help with giving us so much early on and great feedback along the way. Luis is also a really great guy who helped inspire with his incredible skills. One of the best things about music is sometimes all it takes is one piece of really cool art to inspire something really wicked. Fonzie, I’ve always had time for Fonzie and he’s always been fair to me. Not long ago many people thought the project was dead in the water but I always had faith that somehow he would make things work. Sure some of his methods and the way he approaches things are different from the way most of us would do things. But at the end of the day he did manage to pull this ambitious game off which is no small feat. Thanks again for the great review and I hope everyone else who plays the game enjoys what we have created.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video and good job on the awesome soundtrack! :D

@paxhumana2015

3 жыл бұрын

@Groovemaster303, had someone oversaw Fonzie, I think that WaterMelon would have not had half as many issues as it has now, maybe even none at all, had things kept their focus. Sadly, that would also require someone with some business management degrees, as well as some experience, and positive reviews, from years of working for a AAA video game company, which are credentials that I, unfortunately, lack in my life. I wonder if the former WaterMelon staff could buy out the company from Fonzie, let alone work on new games, and also use the technology that is used in Paprium to make a more realistic, and less controversial, beat-em-up/side-scrolling brawler game? By the way, I am still supporting Streets of Rage Remake being used as additional DLC for Streets of Rage 4 for you.

Man, a 46-min St1ka video? And it's still super high-quality stuff, including interviews with developers? Damn, dude - going above and beyond for this! (^-^)

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

It was a lot of work. I experienced quite a bit of burnout with this one lol

Thanks St1ka for this fantastic review/ interview. Love the humor, enjoyed every bit of it.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it my dude! :P

Oh shoot! The final episode in the watermelon trilogy!! Fonzie strikes back : The last mustache

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

The true final boss

@shenglongisback4688

3 жыл бұрын

Im actually surpise he didnt put himself in the game as a secret boss

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@shenglongisback4688 Oh for all we know he did and we just haven't discovered it yet.

@shenglongisback4688

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha it fun it were true We can freely beat up fonzie boss too our hearts content if he not cheap And it be totally legal haha Well im hoping the next game is based in the Paprium world Love the review You trilogy now has a conclusion I actually agree with your Statement Im been watching alot Paprium Im starting too see why you said that.

This review was incredibly well done. I'm super happy that the game came out and that people can finally hear the soundtrack that Groovemaster303 and I put together. Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this. After I saw you had a series dedicated to what happened to Paprium, I was hoping to get your thoughts on it now that it's out and you really did an amazing job here. Thanks for your kind words on the soundtrack. Your channel is great and you should be very proud. I hope that your channel continues to grow. You deserve it :).

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks dude, I really appreciate it! :D

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@kanedak7837 *it's

@willdobson7351

6 ай бұрын

would be great if some people could actually buy it and play it.

I think the most interesting thing about this game from a gameplay perspective is that it's very clear with the hit collision/hit stop that it more so resembles Golden Axe than Streets of Rage 2 in a lot of ways. Like, if you watch Golden Axe on the Sega Genesis when an enemy goes into a kneeling state, the hit concept is the same as a lot of context actions in Paprium. So not just the mounts, which were mentioned in the video, but just the odd, floaty collisions. I know that it's clear that there are "proper" attacks to use when enemies are in certain states, such as stun. It's just straddling an odd line between the tighter or more prominent hit stun of Streets of Rage games and then wanting varying states of animation and how that emphasizes fidelity and adds visual variety to the action. The thing is that by prioritizing having so many enemies on the screen and not showing restraint, what you get is a frenetic game where it isn't just that enemies can't react to jump kicks but that it's clear that having that many enemies on screen draws attention to how certain options are more strategically sensible than others. It has concepts more akin to a musou/Dynasty Warriors game and fighting huge waves of cannon fodder. Alien vs Predator on the CPS2 has very acrobatic combat for the sake of accommodating large waves of enemies. By emulating SOR2 but using the enemy saturation of games that play much differently, I think you arrive at jump kicking being preferable to putting yourself at risk like blocking and having less favorable escape options. The choreography of the game looks pretty tedious, but I think that the idea of just emphasizing traversal mitigates that. The problem is that by releasing on the Mega Drive alone, as a "premium product", there's no flexibility in terms of ever refining this. Say what you will of Early Access games, but I think the "a la carte" model puts a lot of strain on developers that make a lot of features based promises before considering the design of the game in action. This is no slight on the various team members, I think saying someone has ambition is extremely frustrating when their reach extends their grasp. I like the soundtrack a lot, but other than liking action games and making some crude observations, I'm more than likely never going to play Paprium. And it's not something I really lament, rather I just think it's a moment to say that I think Paprium might have a very distinct level of drama but there's sadly nothing exceptional about this kind of crowdfunding design.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I have to admit, I didn't consider the Golden Axe approach to the enemy tactics. That's a pretty good take on it.

great video man and I appreciate you getting in touch with the devs

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to contact more, but it seems I've lost contact with some of them. Several haven't been on skype or Sega-16 in ages so I had no way of contacting them.

Man, there is a certain hivemind that Amiga 500 and MegaDrive was the last and final format. *This is our rock.* I mean, it is not right or wrong but...

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's related to the tools. The Mega Drive modern development community didn't really get started until Stephane Dallongevile's SGDK was released.

46 mins of St1ka goodness 👌😊👍

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it! :D

@TheGunmanChannel

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka Apparently Cyberpunk 2077 runs better on Mega Drive 🤣

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGunmanChannel Yep! The Megadrive beat out the Xbox One X for best cyberpunk game of 2020 xD

Welp. I learned a lot, I heard kick ass music, and interviews. A+

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

aww thank you! I tried! :D

Totally agree with you. Got the same version you did for the same console setup. I ended up putting the game back inside its blister pack because the thing doesn't close properly in that fold out design. Not sure why Fonzie didn't use clamshells or what he used for Pier Solar. I guess this video is Part 6 of your documentary? By the way Dave from GameSack got an exclusive with his copy from Fonzie's personal underwear collection : a thong. I guess that's why his channel is called Game Sack? Ahahahaha!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Hah I saw his episode, he did a great job, but boy did I do a double take at that thong

@pferreira1983

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka I bet you're glad you didn't get THAT perk as a KZreadr eh? Ahahahaha!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@pferreira1983 haha no kidding

I love that the joke mini game plays ,,never gonna let you down" at the title screen.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't even realize it was Rick roll until someone told me later lol

Great review man. Best review I’ve seen of this game. Super thorough, fair, and I believe honest. Thankyou for this.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoeyed it, I tried my best! :D

Great review, I LOVE this game. Easily one of the best beat em ups for the Genesis/Mega Drive and honestly one of the Top 10 I have played across all systems. I am glad I got the original clamshell version, but it's kinda cool that it's so unique.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

The clamshell version is by far the best version of Paprium :P

Such great significant details about the CPU cooperative player... KUDOS for the amazing video pal :D

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear you enjoyed it! :D

glad you still putting effort to make these videos my mang. I really think you deserve a much larger view count, but I hope you keep on trucking regardless.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude, I try! ^^

What an odd conclusion to an even weirder situation. Great video though!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

No kidding! And the fact they're now selling another game through pre-orders only without any screenshots or videos is just... ergh...

@chrisfratz

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka As someone who doesn't approve of watermelon's behavior, and Fonzi's pretty obvious elitism towards using original hardware, I'd rather not support anything watermelon releases.I'm probably just going to pirate the game whenever it becomes possible to play it without the original cartridge.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisfratz I don't blame you, even I had to heavily debate with myself whether or not I should get this AMB64 game. I got it mostly on the off-chance it comes out and I can make a video about it...

@RetroSegaDev

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisfratz the problem is it's not really original hardware if your cart is packing a modern 180mhz 32bit arm processor 😂

@orbitingdecay6797

3 жыл бұрын

What gets me about their next game is there's no link to it on MGF website. So how are you meant to know about it?!

Ironically the sound engineer designer speaks in a monotone voice 🤣🤣

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

haha!

You didn't just review the game but you also interviewed the dev team!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

yep, it was a ton of work! :D

Totally forgot I saw this like a year or two before I met you, and considered it a go to legend level video

@st1ka

2 жыл бұрын

aww thank you! This was a pretty good video! ^^

Great video, dude. Your hard work paid off!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

aww thanks man. This video was a grueling task. I was just about ready to either faint or cancel the video out of pure burnout lol

Wow the video was astonishing and fascinated for me. I discovered you by Gamesack mentioned to you about Paprium and Pier Solar from there I saw your video and I loved it. Keep it up my friend ;-)

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I try! :D

Also wanted to say, this is the best review of the game! But your reviews are always on point haha

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks man! :D

Best Paprium review on YT. Appreciate the video. Good stuff.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! :D

Excelent review. It's great that you managed to interview people for this. Thanks. You are braver than me in ordering the mistery game, I hope you get it. PS: I've read that maybe it is possible to update the Paprium ROM to correct some errors using that port on the top, but I don't know.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video! Yeaj, suposedly that's what the headphone jack is for in the Paprium video, but we'll have to wait and see.

Hey, thanks for the mention and great review!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! ^^

Great video review. My investor edition arrived just before New Year but I have not even had time to open it yet.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, so that means you get the leather thong, right?

My copy arrived in a solid, non-rattling condition, but became a 70 dollar maraca on pulling it out of the console. The heat sink was attached with spit and hope, I guess. dang thing's been getting pretty warm during play since

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Be sure to take it out though. It could short circuit the system otherwise.

@orbitingdecay6797

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, apparently it isn't a heat sink and does nothing I read on the Sega16 forums?

@Digitaaliklosetti

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka oh shit

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@orbitingdecay6797 Yep, it serves no purpose other than looking cool

What is there to even say about this? Paprium has become something of a legacy for you, and this feels like the highest point you could hit. In-depth, fantastic, and well constructed. You put so much of yourself into this game and this video specifically, and it absolutely shows.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

thanks man, this video was painful to get create lol

St1ka, another top notch video. I really like you reached out to some of the devs for interviews. Great job!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks my dude. This video left me so burnt out lol

@tuffasgong

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka i bet!

You have far exceeded my expectations with this video, my friend! Thoroughly enjoyed it. Hope their next game works out for you.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks man. This video was a ton of work!

Shame your copy didn't come with the rubber thong I really wanted to hear you're thoughts on its quality

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I'm quite happy it didn't come with that actually. lol

St1ka reviewing paprium... feels like the end of an era, lol.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

We've now come full circle lol

Awesome video St1ka, i must admit i did end up pre ordering the game but i was really hesitant because of the saga documented in your previous videos about paprium. But for a spectacle wow.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Oh I pre-ordered this next game fully expecting it to never be released.

@smugeebear

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka yeah i saw that then again i saw the link to that and im surprised no one hasn't got a seizure from it to be honest. More than likely but also means i can watch your videos over the soon to be made "dolphin saga"

That was a very well-structured and informative video, and useful to one such as myself who has no real connection to this realm of gaming.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude :D

Still waiting for mine to be shipped received an email from watermelon yesterday saying there’s delays for some shipments truly can’t wait to get my hands on this.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you get it my dude! ^^

@angrylittlesob

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Same here.

@shin_hibiki

3 жыл бұрын

Still waiting for mine to be shipped, and I *didn't* get an email from wm about delays. Where do we go for help? ☹️

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@shin_hibiki Sadly, I don't think there's much you can do. I'm fairly certain Fonzie didn't manufacture enough cartridges.

@shin_hibiki

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka I see there's a place on their site to open a case. Probably won't do any good, but... Hoping somebody can at least dump a rom somehow.

Awesome review! Thanks a lot!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! :D

This is the only review that matters. Fantastic stuff man.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

haha thank you! :D

As always man, fantastic and in depth video. I agree, your opinion IS a bit outside the norm though lol. While I think Paprium is very good, I disagree with your assessment of the gameplay. I find it pretty lacking sadly (especially the more I play), although granted, still fun. There are quite a few missing elements to the fighting and moves (such as the ability to do a downward jump attack that stuns the enemy so you can combo into them, like SOR2 and 3, this is a HUGE omission). Now, on the surface, and by the way you described it, it does seem like a pretty decent move list. And if this was just a straight 6-8 stage arcade beat em up that would be fine. But Paprium offers SO much more content that I personally got bored trying to unlock everything and just stopped. Why? Because IMO the gameplay just doesn't live up to the otherwise AMAZING presentation of the game. The complexity doesn't even reach SOR2 sadly... If you look deeper in the fighting system, the 3 main characters are in essence the same and do primarily the same moves, just with different animations and speeds. For instance, there's no character like Skate from SOR2 who can flip over a guy, jump on his back and pound him in the head (this is a unique attack, none of the characters in Paprium really have unique attacks that feel that much different from one another IMO). When you grab an enemy in Paprium, you can do a little 3 hit combo, but that's it really. Sure you can flip around behind them, but then all you can really do is toss them. You can hold them as a human shield I guess, but I found this sort of worthless, especially in a crowd. Blocking is a nice addition I suppose, but again, I rarely ever used it and I felt it wasn't needed. I'd rather have more offensive moves to do instead. Wouldn't it have been really awesome if when you grabbed someone from behind, they had the option to do a different combo than if you grab them from the front? Or better yet, an option to do multiple different offensive attacks? For example, in SOR2 and 3 there were different move sets, punches or kicks you could do once you grabbed an enemy, not just the the same 3 hit combo over and over again like in Paprium. Max for instance, as soon as you grabbed an enemy it opened up a plethora of different moves to do. You could follow through with your combo from the front, or grab them in a headlock and crush their skull with your biceps, or you could pick up the guy, jump in the air and slam him to the ground, or if you grabbed them from behind, you could suplex them backwards into the pavement OR jump into the air and perform a piledriver move. You could also slide, do a jump kick or jump elbow plus 2 special moves which required a bit of strategy to use as they used up your life. Oh, and this was all expanded on in SOR3. The blue pill in Paprium is a cool idea, but it needs to unlock more than just a single repetitive attack. I found myself getting bored with it sadly. None of this is to say that Paprium isn't a great Beat em Up for the Genesis, it absolutely is! I am still blown away by the presentation and the gameplay is fun in 30-60 minute doses. And I am really glad you enjoyed the gameplay as much as you did. I mean, I did as well. But I just got bored with it before I could finish unlocking everything. The move set is too simple to be engaging enough to traverse ALL of that amazing content for me unfortunately. Not to mention the AI which you talked about is a bit lacking. I'm hopeful that if updates are ever released, some of these issues can be addressed. We shall see... To me, the perfect Beat Em Up is SOR3. It does all the things Paprium does, except better. The only place it isn't as strong IMO is in the presentation department. It doesn't LOOK as amazing. But SOR3 is also a huge game with branching paths, 7 playable characters, different endings, plenty of secrets and a much larger move set than Paprium (and done in 24 megabits, not 80). I just wish more time had been spent refining the gameplay in Paprium and less on the gloss. It could have been legendary instead of just "very good", at least IMO. Anyway, GREAT VIDEO ST1KA!!!!!!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Oh I knew my opinion would be controversial xD I will say I have a love-hate relationship with SOR 3. Sometimes I can get into it and love it and other times I detest it lol

To my Understanding, nobody has yet gotten a "good ending" but rather a "the End?" ?

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen it said on twitter that even the good ending says "The End?"

"Should I buy it?" "I dunno?"

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly it's the best I can say :\

Finally! Will definitely watch! :D.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you'll enjoy it! :D

I can’t wait to get this game myself when/if water melons website comes back up. Excellent review! I love they way you talk dude, it’s like I’m not sure the word to use but it’s the opposite of monotone. You’ve earned a like subscribe and support on Patreon 😃

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Aww thank you :D

Excellent review! I'd love to play this game myself but I don't know if I could justify that steep price tag, espicially since it might not even work. It would be great if this was released on Steam and modern consoles but something tells me Fonzie wouldn't be interested in doing that... :P Oh well, still a great video!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly, that's the biggest reason why I don't feel comfortable in recommending the game. I can't guarantee it'll work or that you'll even get it.

@St1ka - Maybe you could cut a small square of Styrofoam or something like it to fit under the lip of the protective plastic packaging to level it out and make it stand flat. Or if you wanna do a small project, you could cut a piece of wood that fits under it perfectly, and paint it to match. You could print out the Paprium logo and put it on the front of the square, then add a clearcoat over it all to make it shine and protect the paper logo. It could be a small project for someone more artistic and talented than me. Im sure they could make something really cool, like a custom display stand to fit with the cases design.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good idea actually.

Very Awesome video! It was a long wait but I'm glad the backers finally got their game. It didn't disappoint either =)

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly, not everyone received it yet.

Lol i’m the Simon from twitter who left the comment you used in the video... was not expecting that 😎. Anyway quick update... got an email from the fonz that said that more will start shipping on the 15th and that everyone needs to just wait. Ugh sounds like more bullshit to me.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Hehe glad you liked the cameo. There were a bunch of people who are in your situation though :\

@simonbelmont1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka yea... it sucks and is super ungrateful to the fans to operate like this. As much as i might want to i will not be buying anything more from watermelon sadly... even if it has great gameplay

Woo-hoo! Closure! In the end, I'm also happy how the game turned out. 👍

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! :D

Glad you like it. My copy just got delayed... and my arcade stick that I preordered 3 years ago said out of stock on the day everything was announced. Fonzie was slooowwwlllyyy helping me fix this issue, and now he's closed down support for the next 15 days. I'm pretty unimpressed tbh. I'll judge the game on how it is if I ever get it, but this mess has really left me with a strong distaste for Watermelon and Fonzie.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I don't blame you. Fonzie's attitude is just the worst

I know this is old now but I wanted to comment on the voice work in this game. Paprium (I think I spelled that right) has some very good voice work no doubt but I believe the same effect could be had on stock hardware. Not the music just the voice clarity and I'll tell you why I believe that. For many years (especially after the Snes's release in 1991) we were told many lies about Sega's 16-bit console. This wasn't helped when we recieved quite a few shoddy ports that helped sold the lie of "the Genesis has poor sound." I have actually heard what a stock Genesis can do with voices and too say it's impressive is an understatement. If you look at the fan fix of both Street Fighter 2 Champions Edition and Mortal Kombat you will hear crystal clear audio like never before. We're talking every voice featured in the arcades that just might be arcade perfect. I believe with enough ROM space and technical knowhow you can make the Genesis read novels if you were so inclined. Just my two cents anyway....great video.

@st1ka

2 жыл бұрын

oh the sound in Paprium is amazing not gonna lie. In fact, the system can do amazing voices and sound, but a lot of devs (especially western devs) didn't really know how to properly use FM audio

It is worth mentioning this non compatible cartridge is just on their first run and they promised it would be corrected next releases. According to Luis Martins the 'incompatible' cart the guys from My Life In Gaming got was a faulty one. Game is insane and the art is beautiful. I hope they improve the AI in the next revision. It truly looks how they wanted the user to have a genuine experience. They really tried.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I'm curious about that. I hope Fonzie will tlkeeo their word

But just let's all agree that if this game would come out in the 90's specially in the mega drive era in Portugal it would be the must have game back in the day!!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Oh absolutely! This would be considered an all time classic had it come out

@LuisAdregoDigitalArt

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka totally agree with that 😎

Congrats 8k

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :D

Top content dude best modern retro reviewer of all time barre none

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

aww thanks dude!

I also have a model 1 region modded, i hope it will work with mine!! Great video anyway! The waiting was worth it..

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I know there are lists of which versions the system works or doesn't work with. I'd recommend googling it and see if your system is compatible ^^

Awesome review! I agree, it's an amazing game! I just hope it can be update to tweak a few things (eg. random freeze I had on first play through on the final level), and perhaps another difficulty level or make the existing ones harder. If they add DLC too - wow!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Did you unlock the "paprium" difficulty? It's the hardest difficulty level but it can only be unlocked by completing original mode on "Very Hard"

@GadgetUK164

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka I've not got that far yet! Throned two areas, just working my way through the various routes atm =D I think perhaps rather than difficult changes, maybe they should have some enemies block flying kicks etc. There's not much wrong with it except that - too easy to just jump kick left, jump kick right etc.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@GadgetUK164 Oh to be fair, all the higher difficulty does is make you take more damage. The AI is still just as braindead.

Good review. If I ever get a real chance at getting this, Imma try. I only got a Model 02 NTSC Genesis and don't use any wide screen high def tvs

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Ah understandable. ^^

I sooooo agree with you man about the packaging... I got the same edition and wish I would have just got the regular clam shell...

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but that's what we got for ordering a game and its CE blindly lol

Packing since December 15th. I noticed the non investor edition can can go anywhere from $300-$550 ebay. Considering you can still preorder the next batch for $170 i can somewhat understand fonzie price gouging.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

The best way to combat scalpers is by making more copies. The more copies there are in the wild, the lower their prices on ebay.

@ZimLuvGigan

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka That's How I got a sealed Dreamcast Pier Solar with Japanese style packaging dirt cheap on Ebay. Though I feel like thats much easier to do with discs.

This is awesome his voice sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon character

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Like Zoinks!

@Nobunaga1983

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka haha you have great content. Just ordered paprium

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nobunaga1983 Good luck dude, can't garantee you'll actually get it lol

It's weird.. because it's both impressive and a let down all at the same time haha. It has its flaws. Not all the animation is fluid, some of it is choppy. Some of the throwing frames/animation/setup looks completely wrong. The palette style is nice as first, but gets old fast (but the art if fantastic) - like they used a c64 palette for everything. Some palette variety would have been nice. And few enemies colors look like maybe uses 5 haha. Could have used some more variety in enemies in a specific areas. The music is pretty good, but it doesn't really sound beyond of what I expect from the MD. Also, nothing I would listen to outside of playing the game. That said, there's a LOT of polish on this game that just overall overshadows *any* faults/flaws. As in, the more you play it - the more the polished stuff shines and the less the flaws really matter. Very happy it came out, regardless of the drama because it's a great game.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

this game is a myriad of emotions haha

@txray3409

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka Pretty much haha

That was interesting rewiev thx💪

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed my dude. Say hi to everyone in Springfield for me.

@Klaus_Schwab_777

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka O yeeeessss I definitely do it)

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@Klaus_Schwab_777 hehe

I ordered a copy after seeing the final product. I hope I actually get it.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck dude, let me know if you get it.

If Paprium came out in the 1990s, it would have both impressed the masses and caused many cultural and content controversies contributing to the implementation of the ESRB (along with Mortal Kombat and Night Trap).

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Completely agreed!

Regarding Project N. I got this email December 13 when I updating my shipping info for Paprium. Which I am one of many unlucky people who haven't received their order yet. "Investors of ProjectN. As you may imagine, the project have been halted until we fix our situation with PayPal, still ongoing. We are confident the game will release in a form or another and if we cannot resume work, we will proceed to a refund of each of you. Please allow two extra months until we clear things out. Thank you again for your patience." Lord knows it's going to take way longer then 2 months to figure out.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I got that email too, but it doesn't actually say anything about Project N

@supersexysega

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka Another update a couple days ago. Project N is being worked on again. Looking forward to your review of it in 2027 give or take a year or two 😂

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@supersexysega Oh I got that email too. Very curious to see what will happen lol

Laughs in streets of rage 4. Good vid man

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I still need to play SOR 4 :P

@SerfsUp1848

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka dude I was really hoping to play this but it looks impossible to get ahold of and the dudes an asshole. Ppl are turning around and selling them shits for waaaaay to much. Any chance someone might reverse engineer that shit and do a proper repro...... Wink wink.... Nudge nudge......?

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@SerfsUp1848 Sadly I don't know. I haven't heard anything regarding this yet :\

I don't think we need to worry about Genesis units dying in the distant future, so that nobody can play Paprium. I think people will figure out a solution, long before then. But for now, Paprium's special hardware does keep people from being able to dump / emulate it, so it makes sense for the short-term, imo.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Oh I'm sure a solution will crop up, but might as well facilitate the process from the onset

Presentation, style, audio, content, etc. are all bonuses to me, like icing on the cake. If the core systems and mechanics don't hold up to those of Streets of Rage, it's still not a better game in my personal opinion.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Oh I understand what you mean. Gameplay is the most important one of all and in that regard SOR is better, but I also feel Paprium is greater than the sum of its parts and its gameplay is still super fun

@michielkroder4031

3 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka I get your point!

A fantastic video on this---unlikely to be topped anytime soon.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I definitely don't want to make a video this big anytime soon. I experienced some serious burnout while making it lol

Nice typo when booting up: Do not TEMPER with. Not sure if it’s Fonzietard just messing again BUTT we’ll never know...🤣

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

You know, I probably should mentioned that in the video now that I think about it.

i backed this before 2017 and then also pre ordered it in 2017 and still havent recieved it, i'm pissed. fuck water melon.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

ooof! I wish I could help you :\

I really hate the pill packaging thing too. I threw my tray out but almost kind of regret it because now the cartridge has nowhere to properly fit and just sits loosely in there. Also, how you gonna sit there and talk bad about my waifu Alex? She's such a badass character :D Outstanding work on the video as usual St1ka I'm glad we got to see the end of such a weird saga and the end product was actually worth it. I really hope Fonzie can manage to get his shit together someday so more people can play it, but I feel like we all already know he won't. I also hope I can play Paprium on my Mega SG someday. Paprium's release was definitely 2020's last weird twist. I look forward to living vicariously through you as you wait endlessly for whatever the hell that AMB96 game is :)

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I love Alex' design and speed, but she really needs a damage output increase.

Great video.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it :D

Pros - Nice packaging art, nice graphics and sound. Cons - High price, quality control issues, packaging that I don't like and some unnecessary in-game features that I feel the game would be better without.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good way of condensing it, yes :P

You’d think the heat sync would help with the cartridge considering how much Fonzie boasts about the game “pushing limits”, but nope. It’s just there to look cool.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

yep exactly!

Great video, really, finally someone besides Goati addresses the problems of this game with constructive criticism. I disagree with the game being a masterpiece for two motives: gameplay and level design (I'd give it a 15/20 maybe, it's a good game but not great). You never get the same feel as other great beat em' ups like SoR, capcom beat em' ups, Dragon's Crown, etc, sure, it is fun and some weapons like the extinguisher are nice but in the end it ends up being repetitive (and some levels just end up being huge corridors). Looks great, obviously (minus many animations which lack a ton of frames), sounds great (minus sound effects which sound muffled) and it's a big game, but in the end I guess many people are caught up in the excitement of it being a new Mega Drive release that doesn't look like 15 year olds designed it, and we can't remove that fact that it's a pricey game - doesn't matter how much people spent on it back in 2017 or earlier, everyone now believes this is a game worth 129$-169$ minimum and if affects people's judgement on how good the game is (making them subconsciously believe the game is worth more than it actually is - I can think of Earthbound, Shantae 1 as a similar examples). We'll see if in a few months people will actually keep playing the game or just put it in their shelves forever. Unfortunately all the problems of this game come from the same person (and this video explains it 10000x better than any words I could say). I don't see Fonzie learning from this game, though, in the end it feels like your normal narcissistic person in any workplace, they make everything worse around them and create toxic working enviornments just because they aren't able to empathize with other people or have past issues which also led them to their narcissism. In this case (well pun intended as there's no case for the game lol), he overdesigned everything just so he could make it different, the game took ages to come out due to that and all the necessary people needed for a smooth project ended up leaving watermelon anyways, and he gets all defensive with that hilarious letter (he didn't even let anyone proofread it lol), he knows he f'd up but he'll never admit it, especially now that the game is out and the "haters" were put in their place - when the haters are mostly people who wasted money on a project which he barely had any type of communication and where he didn't even respect the backers. All it would take would be explaining people what was really going on, refunding people at the right time and explain what was being done in a monthly update, even if it was small updates. Backer feedback is necessary, as creators you need to read it, even if it's a bad feedback, and learn from it. If people acknowledge the game is super impressive, I'm afraid Fonzie will just ignore everyone else which created constructive criticism (like this video, which I'm sure he'll just ignore after 2 minutes lol and slash St1ka's name in the backing for that next game - IF it comes out lol) and just glorify himself in watermelon's page and into the next game (when he really knows he f'd up and he needs to tread carefully so he can milk us money once again until 2026). Fonzie if you read this (you won't lol), just look at Xeno Crisis, if there is a golden standard for mega drive games made by independent studios and/or people, that's it, NOT Paprium, which is the "How not to handle a backer project" (there's far worse project examples ofc, yours did come out). Also, 300€ for a game? That's just taking a dump on customers.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

oh the game definitely has its issues and I can understand why many would disagree with me. I am willing to forgive many of Paprium's issues mainly due to how massive it is. And yeh, €300 for a game is ludicrous

@THESHMUPMASTER

3 жыл бұрын

This is the best comment I've seen on this game so far. I agree with just about everything you've said here. Paprium is a good game and looks damn impressive. But it has a myriad of issues, the biggest for me being the gameplay which like you said, unfortunately becomes very repetitive. This is due IMO to lack of refinement, little to no combos and a very limited move set (which would be fine in a game with 6-8 levels, but Paprium has... dozens). The game itself has a MASSIVE amount of content, probably more than any other Genesis game, it's pretty amazing all the different ways you can go through the game. I just wish the care and attention to detail that went into the presentation also went into the gameplay. Clearly the gameplay was an afterthought. Which makes it hard for me to play after a while. When I start getting bored during one of my play-throughs, I realize that I could just play Streets of Rage 3 or 4 and have a lot more variety and interesting moves to do while fighting. A game like Paprium really needed an in depth and interesting fighting system due to the sheer size of the game. It sadly grew very stale for me after a while. I didn't find the gameplay interesting enough to bother unlocking everything and trying to find all the secrets. It makes me kind of sad. Ultimately I think the game is a big missed opportunity. All Fonzie had to do was at least match Streets of Rage 2 in terms of gameplay, and at least IMO he failed at that. The game plays more like a very simple 8-bit beat em up (Double Dragon maybe) with a hand full of levels. Paprium deserved so much more in that regard. I know this comment comes across as negative, but I have to express that I did enjoy my time with Paprium a lot. I played it maybe a dozen times and I got my money's worth. I just probably won't pick it up again anytime soon.

Great video! Really appreciate you being so thorough and so fair, looking at the game in isolation, it looks fun and cool, and that coop AI work is really impressive! I have to say though, given the overwhelming evidence of how much of a dirt bag the guy behind this game is, I think it's a mistake to give him more money for the next game, let alone support this one. I know that sucks for the talented and passionate people who made it, but I think they'd rather we not give the guy money either lol - especially if how you're saying he doesn't give anyone else the money they earned. Just imho tho, again video is awesome and love your stuff! :)

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! This video was a ton of hard work! ^^

The game is a masterpiece I’m still addicted to it.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Oh the game is amazing!

> "You troll your enemies" .... You troll your enemies? What? > Watches video. . .. OOohhhh, LMAO You THROW your enemies... It's "throw" not "chroll".

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Pfftt I pronounced it perfectly and you know it 😎😎

@Astfgl

3 жыл бұрын

Only if your name is Fonzie do you *troll* your enemies.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@Astfgl hehe

Best idea for a Gif: Shows Omega Shenron blowing away Goku in GT and Omega Shenron has "No Updates for Years" Text on him! Vegeta gets beat down and he has "Paprium Funders" on him! Goku Rises from the hole in the Earths a55 with the Universal Genki Dama with "2020 Christmas" as he rises up and throws it and wipes him out!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

haha

Extremely extensive and informative review, Thanks a lot. Imho they should port/emulate it on the Evercade just like Xenocrisis and Tänzer...that is AFTER they shipped all the MD cartridges;-) Seriously, this way they'd have the chance to fix a few bugs and make some extra money. I'd buy it.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

It would be great to see Paprium on Steam and the Evercade, but knowing Fonzie, I doubt it will happen.

My friend, the console you have is the 1601-18? Does it writes "high definition graphics" on? I am asking in order to chech the compatibility with the game.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Mine is Model # 1600-20, but yes, it says "High definition graphics"

Some people have criticized the game for several reasons, but in my opinion, it looks like the guys at Water Melon did some ground breaking work and make a game that looks and sounds amazing!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

The game itself is amazing, the issue is everything else surrounding the game.

@jomo3564

3 жыл бұрын

Fonzie made an interview on "PadawamHD" where he explains why things happened like this. Fonzie is not the bad guy ppls try to portrait and it was a passion project for him. He didn't make money from this and had a lots of issues

In terms of programming, design, etc they did a hell of a job.

Well I hope this won't end all modern 16-bit titles, but how about starting a new trend of MD games that go beyond the usual hardware limits... Run'n'gun? Hmmm...

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I've actually thought about making a video where I compare every modern mega drive release that I own. But it's still in the back burner.

Excellent video, technically and topically; quick question, why is the video not in 4:3 aspect ratio (or even 16:9, stretched, if that were possible)? It seems to be about a 5:3 ratio. Is that just a matter of outputting the Mega Drive to HDMI?

@st1ka

3 ай бұрын

The game was captured off of real hardware, so I assume it must be something with the output

Cool video St1ka! Paprium looks like a fun game. Was wondering, have you played the Mega Drive/Genesis version of FX Unit Yuki? There is also a port of Cave Story that is free to download on GitHub by andwn that I think you'll like. It's currently on v 0.7.0. The main story is "finished", only little things and bugfixes remain.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't played it yet. I originally was planning to buy Fx Unit Yuki but then I wasn't too impressed by what I saw, it doesn't help that I have to buy all my megadrive games so sometimes I just end up not buying a game if I feel like it doesn't look like something I'd enjoy.

I’m still waiting for mine to show up. It has been “shipping” since December 15th

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that man :\

Sounds like he wanted to skip some of the testing and tweaking needed for broader hardware compatibility and decided to try passing that laziness off as elitism.

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised! :D

@chrisfratz

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he intentionally made the mega SG incompatible just because of his elitism

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisfratz I wouldn't put it past the dude.

@willmistretta

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly think I know too much to ever order this game now. Knowing that all of that hefty price will be going straight to the one arrogant egomaniac left standing at the empty shell that is Watermelon and none of it will likely make it to all the of other talented creators who labored so hard and so professionally to make the game a reality. That's just fucked up.

@igorguimaraesdecastro5855

3 жыл бұрын

Makin a game wich doesnt run well on clones just for the sake of " only original hardware " is insanelly dumb in therms of marketing , and the price oh god 😅

Even with enhancements, I’m impressed how much graphics and mechanics they fitted on the cart. Even with the flaws, this looks spectacular

@st1ka

2 жыл бұрын

The game is seriously amazing imo

My order is still on shipping status and after emailing Watermelon i got an email that it's not yet shipped. I hope it will still ship and arrive...

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

I hope so too :\

This looks amazing, hopefully it will be available on Steam at some point!

@st1ka

2 жыл бұрын

They made a Kickstarter recently to bring the game to modern systems ^^

@MorbidLyre

2 жыл бұрын

@@st1ka Thank you for the info! I will take a very cautious look into that, much appreciated 😁

@st1ka

2 жыл бұрын

@@MorbidLyre anytime!

That "letter" from fonzi is a rant. Hahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

yes, it is! One that is equal parts hilarious and infuriating lol

@Astfgl

3 жыл бұрын

I likened it to a Unabomber Manifesto. It's downright embarrassing for everyone involved. Not in the least because of the number of spelling and grammar errors in it.

@navigatorofnone

3 жыл бұрын

@@Astfgl 😀😂

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

@@Astfgl Haha a Unabomber manifesto

@DjDreamcastle

3 жыл бұрын

He'd been quiet for so long while working on the game. I think he just wanted to blow off some steam.

LOL. So, I googled Paprium for a larf, and what do I see? Lots of stuff happened in the past few months. My takes: 1) That game does look beautiful. I'll have to take people's word on its play; I don't have it, and likely never will. But boy - it's a sight to behold. 2) We live in an odd world where a business that fails to deliver its content in any reasonable amount of time, while holding onto its customers' money no less, can be considered a victim. Even in this age of, "Let's try and get offended over this!", this is a stretch. But anyway, in regards to the video, excellent review/summary of events. I watched your documentaries some time ago as well. Keep up the good work!

@st1ka

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help :)