Read the lecture here: lrb.me/mishrawlyt Listen to Mishra discuss the lecture on the LRB Podcast: lrb.me/mishrapodcast

@user-cj1wr5lb1r

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this

@jonathanhoffman2122

Ай бұрын

Shame on you for publishing this antisemitic drivel onthedarkside410122300.wordpress.com/2024/03/08/more-antisemitic-shit-from-london-review-of-books/

@jonathanhoffman2122

Ай бұрын

Revolting antisemitism, shame on you onthedarkside410122300.wordpress.com/2024/03/08/more-antisemitic-shit-from-london-review-of-books/

@jonathanhoffman2122

Ай бұрын

Why do you keep deleting my comment that the lecture and article was revoltingly antisemitic? onthedarkside410122300.wordpress.com/2024/03/08/more-antisemitic-shit-from-london-review-of-books/

@ineshorvitz1585

8 күн бұрын

Ojalá todxs escucharan discursos tan lúcidos como este!!

Thank you Pankaj This is an outstanding testimony to stand out for the truth in 21st century today. Palestinians do not need Western and American support from their political leaders because Palestinians have received more than enough recognition from common people from All over the world. In Britain alone, 700,000 protesters came out every week to remind Israel you have lost your soul and you are now left a wounded animal in the Middle East. Thank you 🙏

@padrigmorin2238

Ай бұрын

O was😅d 31:34 d 31:34 d

You have my deep respect, Mr Mishra, for the depth and humanity of your analysis. Hopefully the emergence of great thinkers and speakers, such as yourself, from outside the West can bring bitterly needed relief to this tortured world.

@khwarizmatic437

Ай бұрын

It is not just an emergence --- such people have been around for many centuries before too .... (a most recent one coming to mind being Edward Said ... or Wael Hallaq ...) 🙌👊

@GCM4u

Ай бұрын

thinkers think they dont bring relief THAT DOES JESUS!

@arunjetli7909

Ай бұрын

@@GCM4u another theocrat here

@frankiestein8482

Ай бұрын

dont delude yourselves hes well known fraud .

"Every day is poisoned by the awareness that hundreds of thousands of people are being slaughtered..." . very eloquently sums up the urgency & gravity of the issue to those who still have some compassion left.

What a tragic coincidence that "Shoah" and "Nakba" both can be translated to "Catastrophe".

@fbschilling

Ай бұрын

And one is nothing like the other. The Shoah was an effort to kill every Jew in Europe that largely succeeded. The Nakba can be compared to the expulsion of the Sudetenland Germans from Czechoslovakia in 1945-46, or the expulsion of the Greek population from Anatolia in 1922-23.

@paulamarsh1

Ай бұрын

Nakba, originally referred to the FAILURE of the Arab states to destroy Israel. This is evident if you read the press of the day (in Arabic). It was later transposed to mean the "plight of the Arab Palestinians".

Worth listening to a couple of times to absorb all the facts so well placed in historical times and in world context.

Brilliant. We are so fortunate Mishra exists.

I find this speech near flawless and resonating deeply, but the powerful and privileged elite of the Western world don't seem to "get it."

I applaud this man....as I sit and weep over our current display of barbarity in the name of victimhood, the words ring truth as never before. As a south african born jew of russian decendants, I always felt something was not right...how did I reconcile loyalty to a tribe of co-conspirators against differently coloured humans, with a victim history ? I grew up with apartheid and left the country of my birth, for its depravity...Only to witness this same depravity metered out on a people also of colour, in a land supposed to protect the right to exist....thank you for clearing up my doubt and ambivalence....

@bolshevikproductions

Ай бұрын

Stop paying your tax

@changestrangers

Ай бұрын

There are plenty of Jews/Israelis "of colour" if that's what you go for. Hamas hates them too.

@fbschilling

Ай бұрын

Have you looked at a picture of an IDF infantry unit recently? You might notice a good many people of colour.

@RashidG1985

Ай бұрын

What about the picture of IDF Generals or of the Knesset? Not many ethiopian jews there, mate.

Calm and collected sir. Your delivery is commendable on a subject I can only weep over. So glad to have you insight into this horror. Thank you for voicing the true nature of humanity and what is the (correct) conduct of civil society.

The article in the LRB is one of the best commentaries and analyses I have read on the situation in Gaza/Israel. It well articulates much of what I feel as a non-Zionist Jew.

@kathleenlillard7854

14 күн бұрын

Yes, my response also. There is no one to discuss it with however.

First found this article in a recent collection by Moon of Alabama. Very glad to have seen you deliver it. In the current climate it seems astonishing that you were permitted to deliver it, let alone publish it in the LRB, but, as one of the powerless masses expressing their horror about Gaza daily on social media, it's a source of hope that you could.

@jonathanhoffman2122

Ай бұрын

Barbican refused to host this antisemitic drivel. Good for them. Shame on St James, Clerkenwell.

I have to listen to this again. Great wealth of wonderful literary anecdotes of historical figures, remarkable and an instructive presentation. I had to google after every couple of sentences, any literary figure, book, essay that kept quoting. A refreshingly instructive in these very sad times though. Genocide is being live telecast

@honorhonor3352

Ай бұрын

I did three times

@GCM4u

Ай бұрын

HE FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THE CHURCH - NL JESUS WHO IS MORE LITERY ANECDOTED , HISTORICAL PERSONS ENOUGH IN THE BIBLE , and even you dont you use genocide easy ..DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED 7-10-23?

@jonathanhoffman2122

Ай бұрын

Fool. His references are either from antisemites or so selective as to be worthless.

Yes, quietly going mad....my finger pauses over the Al Jazeera app each day, hesitating to behold the ongoing grief. Nights of broken sleep, haunted by thoughts of Palestinian suffering. I hammer on heaven's door with feverish prayers.

@RashidG1985

Ай бұрын

I wonder what, Kind of enlightenment this is. Which allows us to rejoice over the wonders of availability and connectedness while setting up borders of thinking ground, lest physical one's.

A magisterial lecture.

@jonathanhoffman2122

Ай бұрын

You don't even recognise antisemitic drivel when it hits you in the face

Excellent just excellent words for the time they are spoken even though they relate from decades ago 👍

A speech for the ages. Full marks to LRB for it's integrity that it chose Pankaj Mishra, and not a Niall Ferguson or an Anthony Beevor or anyone else among the host of other prominent British historians alive today to deliver this lecture.

@user-hv4bu2yz5m

Ай бұрын

Niall Ferguson is a hater.

Wonderful lecture. I hope people of conscience will listen

@ianpuddick

Ай бұрын

They may listen …but will they understand and change ? Sadly I think we know the answer :-( servus

@kathleenlillard7854

14 күн бұрын

Reading this changed my thinking. Or rather prompted more thinking.

@ianpuddick

13 күн бұрын

I’m sure that’s the whole point 👍

Let's remember that this church hosted Pankaj Mishra’s lecture (this one) after London’s Barbican Centre decided not to host it. Many artists withdrew their work from the Barbican exhibition as a result of this decision. Perhaps religious institutions (who still follow a moral compass), will become our future art galleries. Thanks also to LRB for posting this.

@maryl8753

Ай бұрын

Except Justin Welby, Archbishop of Church of England- he refused to meet with a Palestinian pastor as he had shared the stage with Jeremy Corbyn, an avowed antizionist. Shows what sort of decency and morals the leader of the Church of England has. Disgusting where even church leaders are morally bankrupt. Lately he has with others called for a ceasefire but I'm afraid his true nature has been exposed

This is too good. I need to listen again while taking notes

Wow! I feel like I'm back at university, sitting in one of those lectures that seemed to have exponentially expanded my knowledge. Insightful, clear, carefully researched and undoubtedly pertinent. As much as I respect the LRB, this lecture should be delivered to the UN.

@frankiestein8482

Ай бұрын

Hes a coolie indian that promotes even racist talking colonial talking points against india and Hindus. Hes a typical whitemans servant pushing the same type of properganda here against israel.

This is an essential talk, bravo Pankaj Mishra!!! Most of all, I believe that humanity is grateful to you.

Thank you Pankaj for staying faithful to the truth.

@frankiestein8482

Ай бұрын

what truth ? he has a history of distorting the truth especially when it comes to India .

@rra6033

Ай бұрын

What truth. Another biased Muslim view. I’m an Indian and this guy needs to focus on the atrocities of the Mughals on the indigenous Indian people. The intolerance of the islamists in living in a pluralist India and demanding the partition of India, resulting in the ethnic cleansing of Pakistan and Bangladesh of non-Muslims resulting in millions being killed. The typical hypocrisy to once again brush under the carpet major ethnic cleansing and focus on Jew hatred

Thank you, will be listening again to capture all the information. Can relate very much with the Indian zionism as an Indian Christian. Wish you had mentioned the Indian Christian zionism also.

I have just read the lecture too. Outstanding intellectual interpretations of Jewish past and present. Pankaj brought new insights into the idea of ‘antisemitism’ and its implications. Israel lost its human dignity and human pride while using extreme violence against women and children to show that Israel has no respect for humanity in this conflict. A large number of Jewish citizens in Israel continue to support the violence and destruction of Palestinian’ homes, Mosques, Churches, schools and hospitals. This talk and lecture of Pankaj has recorded the crime of contemporary Israel in a way that shows ‘can Israel live with human dignity with its close neighbours while being an oppressive force?’

@GCM4u

Ай бұрын

REALLY and Not a WORD FROM THE BIBLE, just making it not relative the devil at work as an angel of light or a wolf in sheep cloth

@jonathanhoffman2122

Ай бұрын

Fool, you do not recognise rank Jew Hatred when it hits you in the face

@paulamarsh1

Ай бұрын

Watch old videos of Old Orthodox men forced out of the Old Quarter under the guard of the Jordanian Arab Legion. Jordan went on to destroy the oldest synagogue there, and desecrated Jewish graves and cemeteries. Jordan refused Jews to worship at the Western Wall, occupied by Jordan 1948-1967.

Brilliant lecture by Pankaj Mishra. So much food for thought.

Great analysis.your lecture is a historical postmortem.listening to you gives hope that the world has people who voice for the oppressed.

I am listening whilst working but would listen again and take notes. So much information for those of us uninformed about Israel-Palestine.

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼thank you for having a heart❤

Gracias for the Best talk About this subject.

This brilliant and enlightening lecture deserves more publicity, and would have received it had the Barbican not cancelled Mr Mishra.

Not much new for someone who has been following the evolution of Israel with a critical eye over decades, but a good summary. The Shoah was not unique, although the European colonialists were usually slaughtering people in the process of extracting value from them, justifying it post facto by rationalizing their victims as subhuman. The contrast between South Africa under apartheid and Israel is instructive. The racist government of South Africa relied on hyper-exploited labor from the Africa population; Israel has purged Palestinians from participation in their economy to the extent possible, replacing them with immigrants from many countries, to avoid any shadow of need for their presence to interfere with their extermination.....

@718junius

2 ай бұрын

And yet the Palestinian population keeps on growing despite this Israeli "genocide".

@helenmcinerney1058

Ай бұрын

You misunderstand genocide, and you sound almost disappointed at the numbers of Palestinians in the world. Btw Jewish Israeli scholars who study the Holocaust have called it a 'textbook genocide'.​@@718junius

One of the most insightful and interesting talks I've heard in the 'conflict', thank you so much

Superb. Thank you.

Thank you Mr Mishra. The truth, the whole truth,and nothing but the truth. The whole needs more decent people like yourself.

While we eat, they don't have food. I feel guilt every time I go to shops. I end up cutting my shopping short. Then get home and realise I didn't get what I needed. Yes it is affecting every one of us.

@LadyBug1967

Ай бұрын

YES, it is affecting all of us throughout the world and I'm glad you have said that. The first 3 months, I kept thinking I was having a ❤️ attack, my heart hurt so badly, and I am older so that feeling was not far fet he'd. Finally I got past that and now I'm becoming numb, but not quite, not quite. I live in a small town where NO one even discusses it. FOR a long time NO one even knew it was happening. IT'S in Texas, Central Texas, where I live and it's just NOT kosher to discuss anything political. BUT this is NOT political. THIS has to do with human beings, with humanity, with humanism as described by the Greeks over 2000 years ago. THIS has to do with TRUE democracy, NOT the fake democracy of the zionist state are the sort of democracies of the West. Israel NEVER had a democracy. IT WAS DUE TO SIN THAT THE ISRAELITES WERE FORCED BY THEIR GOD TO WANDER THE EARTH AND IT IS IN SIN THAT THEY CREATED THE ZIONIST STATE AND IT IS BY SIN THAT THEY CONTINUE THE MASSACRE UPON AN INNOCENT PEOPLE. ISRAEL has always been engaged in the SHOAH. I realize listening to this man speak that the "never again" was a fake & a cover up for engaging immediately in a SHOAH of another people. And they have gotten away with it for 3/4's of a century. AND they are still getting away with it. YOU may ask WHY? The answer has NOT yet been exposed and I hope younger people than me will do the research and begin writing immediately everywhere the TRUTH. On blogs,on podcasts, on the walls of buildings, messages dropped from helicopters in the Zionist state, in film. Of course the Jews like Steven Spielberg are yesterday's garbage and we need new ones to create new narratives that are the TRUTH rather than lies. SO WHAT IS THIS TRUTH? The ONLY thing the Israelis create is spyware and they've infiltrated all the countries, especially the UK, by selling their spyware and thus they have a hold on all these countries just as Jeffrey Epstein, an agent of the Mossad tho the elites will not admit it, had a hold on all the powerful people throughout the world, especially in the US and the UK. WHERE do you think he got his millions and millions of dollars? THE MEDIA PONDER THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN ALTHOUGH THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUS. IT was from Israel. HE was a Jew and he worked for the Mossad. HE is dead but the MOSSAD continues to work throughout the nations of the world. The bi-national zionists work in governments from the local to national levels, influencing legislature, such that 36 states in the United States have passed a law that it is a crime if you say anything critical of the zionist state. The power & the control they have over the West is this and add to that the millions & millions they give to influence races & THIS is WHY the West will NOT cease to sell them armaments to commit a genocide on another semitic people & give them diplomatic cover while they commit genocide before our eyes. It is now up to the people of all the countries around the world to boycott anything dealing with the zionist state and the people there in. This includes all the cultural events; all the sport events; and anything else that occurs that involves Zionists must be boycotted or the zionists must be expelled immediately from that event. Back to the evidence we have that has not been written such that people can see it on a daily basis. This evidence of a silent shadow war on the governments of the West is the infiltration of the zionists into every aspect of the US & the UK & the EU by way of their governmental bodies, their media, their banking systems as well as donating foreign money to any candidate that will back this genocidal, apartheid zionist state. The Jews around the world deserve safety and the ONLY way they will get safety is by the destruction of the current Zionist state and the creation of the historic Palestine that will go by the name of either the Levant or Canaan --which are ancient names-- and that will embrace ALL peoples, ALL religions, ALL ethnic backgrounds in a TRUE democracy where everyone has civil rights and everyone has a passport for that country. This is the ONLY way safety will be created, NOT by criminalizing anyone saying something critical of the zionist state which is a genocidal apartheid state that is the furthest thing you could ever get from a democracy. Its existence, above & beyond the safety of Jews, also threatens ALL democracies around the world because if they lower themselves to the level of The zionists by backing them financially & diplomatically, they have destroyed their own democracy which is a type of government that must be recreated day by day or the totalitarians will take it down, as is occurring now as we speak.

I have learned so much, and confirmed or disproved my thoughts and feelings about this genocide of the Palestinians. The thorough historic research that informs your discourse is exceptional. But I fear that, like Primo Levi, you will be attacked by zealots. Please take care.

@jasongray4517

Ай бұрын

Genocide of the Palestinians? A 155% population increase in the past 32 years. What a very odd 'genocide' that is.

An intellectual man of truth and morality.

Powerful words

Interesting and insightful 👏💐✊🏾

Thank you, Pankaj for giving a voice to the cynicism I felt towards my national broadcaster exhaustingly commemorating WOII and the holocaust the way that it did. Your account of the history thru the eyes of people who were invested to never let anything like this again is providing us with good arguments to counter the bastards defending atrocities under the guise of safety.

Thanks to you Mr.Mishra again and again for very insightful writings and talks.

Thanks for speaking the truth and rehabilitatiing palestinians rightful struggle against western imperialism and double standards. Brilliant and well documented présentation.

Thank you for the lecture Your mother must be proud of you.

Brilliant analysis. Riveting both in context but also in linguistic energy.

An amazing explanation ‼️appreciate the deep analysis of the hypocrisy of the West .

Very honest and thoughtful, thank you.

Amazing lecture, thank you very much. You are so knowledgeable, and can put the current tragic situation into the right historical and international context. Thank you for the education. And I completely agree with the human values you represent, and you are speaking from. I am sharing your lecture, in video and text form, as wide as possible

Tremendous! Thank you

Thank you for this.

Exceptional..

Excellent. I fear though his name has been marked!

Thank you so much. Watching from France.

A BRILLIANT sinopsis of the west's latest colonial projects....

Excellent!!! And so informative. It helped me understand my feelings that have been developing over years.

Thank you for uploading this.

Thank you for frankly telling us the truth of the Palestinan cause. Most the western intellectuals cannot dare to speak about this problem as you did it,and you remind us the evil of the racism of the zionism and the evils of hinduism. Thank you and God bless you.

@paulamarsh1

Ай бұрын

Any thoughts on the evil of Islamism ..?

This is brilliant

So clear and so incisive. I have been trying to formulate how I felt about the ideas on antisemitism and this clarified it for me.

52:01 very chilling Biden-Begin meeting anecdote.

A fabulous lecture!

Erudite, nuanced and poised. I hesitate to say brave. Because this is well over 100 days after the horrors of 7 October. So a sufficient time beyond some notional sympathy purdah. Now intellectuals, the best and, dammit, the bravest, are now free to look at Israel and the Shoah again. Refreshed. Just at the point of the turning world. The Fixity. The ancient hate, revivified.

What a surprise! First time am coming across him!! Thank you very much for a highly in-depth lecture! Need to listen to it again! Wonderful.to have you among my great writers like Vijay

Great lecture

Great lecture! 👏🏻

Pankaj is an educated and just human that what a human being is supposed to be, simple.

49:23 I’m sooooooo glad you’re calling out the bullshit of Eli WEASEL

@aclark903

2 ай бұрын

Harsh. Live a little.

@Shaggy-8392

Ай бұрын

​@aclark903 - you need a heart to live, something you won't know about.

"The victims of Israeli barbarity in Gaza today cannot even secure clear recognition of their ordeal, let alone relief." Pankaj Mishra

Very intricate explanation

Great article!! Thank you.

Great!

Thousands of years ago someone prophesied this day, and up coming days. It literally feels like the world is getting prepared to witness something that we never have.

Incredibly important talk

The main question is, why is this not a New Yorker article. My assumption is that any writer worth his salt while write this and first submit it to New Yorker. My speculation is Pankaj submitted it to New Yorker and was rejected. If that the case then I'm sad. Someone please reassure me that I'm being paranoid. Because I love the New Yorker. In the future, would love to see Pankaj getting published in New Yorker again.

❤🙏❤️

An excellent essai! One that also shows that the impunity of one fascist regime is emboldening others! We demand accountability not just to safeguard Palestinians against the barbarism of Zionism but also to safeguard all minorities across the globe against similar racism ethno-states!

@paulamarsh1

Ай бұрын

And are Jews welcome in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan ? Afghanistan ?

@RashidG1985

Ай бұрын

Ameen to that, sister!

@RashidG1985

Ай бұрын

They are. Nothing in these states constitutions' which says they cant ​@@paulamarsh1

GREAT, so perceptive.

What a profound pity that an institution with such a great history as the Barbican Centre in London, has abandoned any sense of moral /ethical decency by cancelling this very discussion. History must not forget (nor forgive) such an appalling decision which effectively condones the current genocide.

Excellent. Thank you!

For the link to the text version of the 7,500 word long lecture in the London Review of Books, see above in the 'About' section.

Primo Levi would have taken hope and been proud of Mr Mishra's erudition and compassion for humanity. In this dark time of savage brutality, Pankaj's voice holds a candle and speaks truth to power.

👏👏👏👏

What a wonderful man Pankaj is, such depth of thought

Brilliant talk. But slavery, Nagasaki, Hiroshima barely remembered?

Ithe best analysis of the current israeli mindset. Is there a future to humanism? Do we have a world in ehich it is worth to bring up children?

eloquent, searingly illuminating and heartbreaking - Mishra is a must -read

Brilliant!

A must watch

Let me add to this fine talk a reference to the great Jewish thinker and translator Henri Meshonnic's reasoned and theologically refined rejection of the word 'shoah'.

I am so moved by this flow of wise, knowledgeable, compassionate words. Thank you.

Visibly, Western ‘democracies’ are backing the most documented genocide, war crimes and atrocities in History!

Screw the cowardly Barbican for trying to cancel this important event. Pankaj Mishra is a brilliant humanist mind and voice. We should all listen to him and read his books.

Axis of savagery. How apt a description for the western world

@khwarizmatic437

Ай бұрын

"Terrorism is the warfare of the poor. War is the terrorism of the rich." - Peter Ustinov

Thank you for this Lecture. Devastating but incredibly important and accurate

I deeply indebted to your generosity and sharing your knowledge.❤

Bauman left Communist Poland, I think in in Russia and Polish army during war and a war hero until his in laws went to Israel.

Save the children of Gaza

Wow. This was an incredible analysis. I’m going to need to listen again and read the essay to truly absorb it all. Thank you for bringing this to the world Mr. Mishra. ❤

Pankaj mishra , a brave voice in this climate and age of violent world, mediocrity leadership . Mishra’s writing on various subject is intellectually stimulating

The Jews attitude after being humiliated by the nazis is perfectly described by the Arabic poem: إِذَا أَنْتَ أَكْرَمْتَ الْكَرِيمَ مَلَكْتَهُ، وَإِنْ أَنْتَ أَكْرَمْتَ اللَّئِيمَ تَمَرَّدَ ie If you honor the generous, you will dominate him, and if you honor the vile, he will rebel.

@paulamarsh1

Ай бұрын

No Muslim has ever been able to explain to me their inherent hatred of Jews. Please enlighten us.