Appreciate the honest review. Just one thing to note. The g9ii sensor is not the same as the gh6 sensor (according to lumix reps)

After much deliberation and comparisons vs the OM-1, I bought a G9mII. Spectacular camera. I couldn't be more pleased... 9.5/10! I can see myself shooting with this thing for the next five plus years, easy. Thanks for the review. Appreciated the bonus comments as well... wish they'd stuck with the original G9 body with the top LCD display. I'm sure using the S5 body was a cost-cutting measure.

I am one of the hybrid photographer/videographers the the G9 series is perfect for. OM1 is too specialist photo, and GH6 is too specialist video. The first G9 I love because of its true hybrid nature, and the G9 II is also a great hybrid. I agree that removing the mode lock was an idiotic move, and removing the top screen is moronic.

@user-rj1hx5jz1n

7 ай бұрын

You are right about the too screen and controls lock, yet the controls are placed now more conveniently, and the overall new features and advantages of the successor mark2 make up for these relatively minor faults.

I'm an Olympus / OMDS fanboy, but I'm rooting for Panasonic to do well. It is all good for the MFT ecosystem.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Yes indeed. It's good for the community. More varieties and more choices.

@ar43r

7 ай бұрын

Same here

@gregfeeler6910

7 ай бұрын

I'm also an OMDS fanboy, but even more so and MFT fanboy, so absolutely agree with you it's good for the system when either Panasonic or OMDS are fielding such advanced products.

@vermis8344

7 ай бұрын

Ditto 💯

@davidmccarthy6061

7 ай бұрын

We need both companies to innovate to keep this platform fresh! And stop this nonsense of body sizes getting larger! Where are the new rangefinder models?

I like you cover olympus AND panasonic cameras now. It makes your audience bigger and its good for the mft family

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yes, I am trying but I need all the help from everyone to make this happen!

My EM5 MK3 has rated weather sealing. I tool it out in light rain paired with the 12-45 pro. Within a few minutes, water went onto fhe hotshoe and the screen stopped working. The hotshoe cover is poorly designed and does not protect the contact points. I contacted the OM guys on their website. They came back to me saying the EM5 mk3 is splash and dust resistant, NOT waterproof. Please do not take it out in the rain or you might damage it. Now you wonder all those youtubers raving about the Olympus weather sealing. I am going to sell my EM5 iii to MPB for a loss of £300. I have barely shot 4000 photos on it. Just disappointed!!

@justint8115

7 ай бұрын

yes weather rating is a marketing gimmick. My friend's EM5 III was also dead after he used it under rain. He took it back to Olympus and they said warranty does not cover water/rain damage even though it has a IP rating. They basically said use it at your own risk under rain. There is a reason why Canon, Nikon flagship DSLRs and mirrorless are all not IP rated.

@tdunster2011

6 ай бұрын

I have an E-m1 Mk II. I shoot in rain, take it to the beach, and wash the salt off under a tap or shower at the beach. I've never had a single issue with the camera. Note that the E-m1 MkII doesn't even have a weather rating.

Jimmy, what a great review video! I liked how you set your use case context and then evaluated the G9II using that criteria. I was a bit surprised when the G9II came out how many people were so sure that it was an OM-1 beater even before they had their hands on one - it was like some people just *had* to put down the OM-1 to elevate the G9II. I think any time you oversell something you do it more harm than good in the long run, and your review does a great job of describing where the G9II fits into the high end of the MFT market. What a great time to be in the MFT ecosystem. Thanks for all your videos!

The Title says it all...that the Lumix G9 II according to Jimmy is master of none!...Does he accept that it is better in Autofocus than the Lumix G9 which is still admired by many?...I just watched it up to the very second Limitation that Jimmy points out that the 'Mode Dial' has no lock button on top of it and that he accidentally turned it during use!?...in which case how does he manage not to turn the Front and rear dials (Aperture and Shutter speed) accidentally?...I stopped watching the video any further as I saw the drift of the video-just an attempt to run down the competition for OM1 and unfairly so...Disappointed.

@Sk8Wine

5 ай бұрын

It's the second video I have seen, which is very unusually put together. Maybe competitors are now paying youtubers to poo on the competition hahaha

@Jake-zc3fk

2 ай бұрын

I’ve had my G9 from shortly after release and have NEVER used the mode dial lock.

You started the review by mentioning that you are an Olympus shooter. A very biased review. Suggest your viewers to watch other reviews before making a decission, like Richard Wong and many others.I think Panasonic did a great job here , giving MFT a good future.

@brianlaunchbury4491

7 ай бұрын

Actually a very balanced review by someone who freely talks about his needs and how the cameras support those needs!

@user-rj1hx5jz1n

7 ай бұрын

@brianlaunchbury4491 A very natural reply, I will not argue with you.I will just mention that it's beyond needs, it's about facts and capabilities reported in your review , which are presented differently in other review. All the best🙏👍

@haploguy

7 ай бұрын

@@brianlaunchbury4491 how is it a balanced review when he's using olympus lenses to test IBIS and AF? or when he spews outright lies about the G9II?

Jimmy, thanks for an honest review of the G9 ii. I especially appreciated the professional/not-professional analysis, and the comparisons to the GH6. I am a Panasonic m43 amateur photographer (no video) invested in the Panasonic system. I shoot mainly wildlife, birds in flight, landscape, and travel. I have much loved gx8, a g9, and now g9 ii. When I received the g9 ii shortly after US release I was not impressed. Its frankly big, and ugly. It felt awkward in the hand. I missed my top panel. I wondered if I'd made a mistake by not going to the OM-1. Then I started using the camera (wildlife, nature, and travel photography) I started to like it. It is a functional evolution from the original g9 (not revolutionary apart from BIF AF), and improves upon in a bunch areas. It is still ugly, but now less awkward in the hand--I've had to shift my grip a little relative to the original G9. The controls fall readily in place, except the AF Single/Continuous/MF selector wheel/AF area button near the viewfinder, which is a bit of a stretch to reach. BIF AF is decent--definitely and improvement over the DfD/CDAF of the original G9, but probably not OM-1 level. I think Panasonic is aiming to bridge M43 users into their S5 full-frame line through common ergonomics, menu system, and philosophy of use. Having said that, I think the body is too large. I was in Panasonic in 2019, and left them for a few years, traveling through Nikon F-mount, Fuji XT, etc--and at the end of 2022 returned to my GX8, and G9. I stay with Panasonic because of their record of firmware updates with the G9--within the limitations of the DfD/CDAF system, they improved it well beyond its original capabilities. I hope they support the G9 ii similarly. In my travels through the different formats and systems I learned that I needed to master my system, understand what inputs gave me what results, and the only way I could do that was by using it. I'll keep the faith with Panasonic for now.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

yes, Panasonic has a good record in updating firmware. In fact, G9 II firmware 2.0 is coming, but apparently only offering more ATOMOS external recording supports and not to fix anything, but I may be wrong.

@Democratiser

7 ай бұрын

Amazingly update 2.0 adds RAW recording over HDMI: BRAW and ProRes RAW.

@michelesiniscalchi8695

7 ай бұрын

but if it has about the same dimensions as the old g9 and also the same weight... I also had the first g9 which was my first micro 4/3... and together with the lumix 100-300 ii I got worse results than to the fz2000 that I already had. The screen on the G9 has never been of any use to me, it's just a habit but its absence is certainly not a flaw.

thanks for this! well done.

Hey Jimmy, interesting review, you don't make the same conclusions as Emily Lowrey. Actually I'm thinking about getting G9 II for video and prefer it over GH6 specifically because of the phase AF. But there is something I can't deny Panasonic and this is the firmware updates. The camera is brand new and they've already promised 2.0 and RAW video output while OM System haven't done anything in the video department for 2 years. For sure the sensor is capable of open gate video, and they also can add some tools and other stuff, all other manufacturers are updating their firmware like crazy Olympus was very good at that and now OM System are completely silent, so when you speak with them please tell them they need constantly to improve cameras, not just to produce and sell.

@mistermcluvin2425

7 ай бұрын

maybe because Emily used pani lenses with the pani body and olympus leneses with the oly body?

@Garrus4Spectre

7 ай бұрын

I'd upvote this more than once of I could.

Thanks for your review Jimmy. I have Panasonic Lumix DMC G80, and the Leica 100-400mm (original version lens), and I've loved my G80, but it is nearly 7 years old, and I have a big Safari in Botswana booked in August, and started looking for a replacement camera, and the obvious choice was to stay with Panasonic, and upgrade to the G9ii, but like you've pointed out in your video, the G9ii is a big camera, plus lots of reviewers were not impressed with battery life, and pretty much everyone has said similar things to what you said regarding the AF. Battery life, size of the body, and weight are factors I considered, and I was pleasantly surprised to find the OM System OM-1 mark ii to be similar in size and weight to my G80, with a vastly superior AF, animal, bird, motor sports tracking, long battery life, and reviewers and you have been raving about the OM-1 camera. Even the layout is very similar, which has meant my transition from Panasonic to OM System has been a breeze. (yes I bought it). Listening to what you said in your video makes me very happy that I made the right choice. I am blown away by the super fast Auto Focus, and even though the Leica 100-400 lens doesn't work with stabilisation on the OM-1, the camer has loads of stabilisation, so it is a non-issue. It's 100X better than my G80, and that is where the OM System really nails it.

Great review Jimmy, and thanks for highlighting the little "niggly" things that can really make a difference. As I mature, I come to appreciate the little things like ergonomics, to be even more important than blazing FPS of AF speed. Things like a goog grip, good back grip, good EVF, good eye relief (for the majority of us wearing glasses/sunglasses), and an OLED (vs. LCD) EVF, so that it doesn't black out when you wear polarized sunglasses! I'm not sure if the G9Mk2 has all these, but that's what I look for now. And I agree 100% that Panasonic simply reused the S5II chassis for cost-saving measures, not unlike OMDS reusing the E-M5Mk3 body for the OM-5 (which made me decide agains upgrading). It all comes down to $$$.

Most points are valid. AF and stabilization should have been done with a Panasonic lens in order to be considered accurate

After using a lot of different systems, I returned to MFT in the form of a used G9 about a year ago. The numerous firmware updates since I last tried one(back in 2018) have made a huge difference. I'm overall quite happy with the C-AF now, which was something that frustrated me in the past. Had the G9 II been announced when I decided to switch, I probably would have waited for one, but for the time being I'm going to wait until I find the original G9 limiting before I worry about upgrading.

Very useful and informative video.

Very disappointing review. So bias! You say this is not a comparison video with OM System, but you keep comparing.... Plus, why buy Lumix cameras with your own money if you are an OM Systems ambassador? Just to trash Lumix? Love you man, but this video...

@agrafernando

7 ай бұрын

💯 all tue G9ii vids seemed to be designed to trash it. The initial G9ii vs OM1 video from Emily really triggered this series. How worried must you be about this direct competiton to the OM-1, to go out, apparently buy the G9ii with your own money and then do this kind of review. Shouldnt an OM rep not focus on the merits of the OM-1?

Thanks for the video, when you do sample photos would be fun to know the lenses and settings.

Hi Jimmy, Thanks for the interesting review. One reviewer (the hybrid shooter) complaint about the over-sharpening of the G9 II in video. I wonder if you experience this too? Is it different compared to the GH6? The OM-1 also has this IMO.

Strange, Promirrorless, italian professional photographers , they use OM-1 for professional shootings, draw the opposite conclusions doing side by side comparison.

A decent "lets disect the G9ii and find any possible issue" review. Any review from an rep, regardless from which brand are always biased. So take all of this wirh a pinch of salt. 😅

@Sk8Wine

5 ай бұрын

Who's he repping, OM?

@agrafernando

5 ай бұрын

​@@Sk8Winewell he is a OMD Ambassador....so....

Nice review Jimmy. Seems like the best all round camera MFT has had, maybe since the original G9. You mention the GH6 is a better video camera for manual focus shooters. While I agree for the most part, the DRboost is implemented better on G9II and the base ISO is 500 in VLOG vs 2000 on the GH6. So the Video IQ of the G9II is noticeably better, which is often the most important factor.

@djmouglie

7 ай бұрын

totally agree .. i own both and to be able to shoot VLog at ISO 500 is so much better then ISO 2000. But when using the GH6 without dynamic boost and Vlog the base ISO is 250. So i most use my GH6 without the dynamic range boost as the ISO 2000 is just too noisy.

Your intro make me miss film... Anyway, as a long-time G9 user (primarily stills) with mainly Pan/Leica lenses, I think I'll go with the G9 II, as I find it much more comfortable/secure than the OM-1 (or Sony E-Mount for that matter), as I find those other bodies too small to provide a firm grip. I also much prefer Lumix ergo, especially the menu system. Although it may lack an official "IP" rating, I've had no trouble using my G9 in pouring rain and it worked fine yesterday in -15°C (5° F) cold (although neither batteries nor my exposed face enjoyed it much). Very easy to use, especially with touch-screen gloves. Certainly the G9 (I and II) are "pro" cameras (as are the GH6 and OM-1) by any reasonable standard as they deliver high performance and are rugged/reliable. That said, I agree that it deserves its own body (clearly the modified S5 one is for cost savings, but that's a great camera too, and it leaves more room for IBIS and passive cooling with the smaller sensor) and I also miss the mode lock and top screen, plus I wish they used a higher-res EVF. The good news is that both Lumix and OM products are great and continue to improve. I hope they both continue to devote resources to MFT, as it's the most sensible format for the vast majority of photographers (and of course videographers), whether they realise it or not.

After shooting Pentax in the rainy Pacific Northwest (USA) for around 20 years, I recently switched to OMDS. THEN the G9 ii came out and I was doubting my purchase decision. As a stills photographer that dabbles in everything from birds in flight, astro, macro, landscape and even the occasional wedding or other event, your video definitely helped restore some of my confidence in the OM-1.

Thanks for a fair review. I am a long time FT/MFT pro. I mostly shoot with Olympus prime lenses for portraits (25 and 45 1.2, 75 1.8) and 300pro for birding. I got the GH6 for video and love it even when AF isn't fast/accurate for run/gun scenarios. I tried my buddy's G9 but the AF didn't inspire confidence at that time. So when the G9ii came out, I traded my EM-1ii (that was collecting dust :)) to get the G9ii. So far, I like it as much as I like the OM1 except for the small annoyance of the right thumb dial that easily messes up the shutter speed - I should say "used to easily mess up the shutter speed" because once I mounted the Small Rig cage, the wheel is not that easily messed up! So try that if you like cages - I have cages on all my cameras except EM5iii. The image quality is very good - I didn't upgrade to DXO 7 so can't compare apples/apples with my processed images from the OM1. Using LR to import G9ii RAW images for now. AF is also on par with OM1 for birds in flight both with 300pro and the Panasonic 100-400. I like the ergonomics and don't mind the slightly larger body at all given the lenses are quite small and light. I think the G9ii is a brilliant hybrid camera. It is a perfect companion for GH6 when I need to shoot mostly videos and some stills, and a perfect companion for the OM-1 when the job is primarily photography with some video.

Just a comment on "video capabilities", the G9-II can record direct to SSD via USB-C, I don't think the GH6 can, which would invalidate the CF-Express "advantage", imo...

Hi Jimmy, great comparison as usual. I wonder because no one has actually compared the original g9, which I keep looking at with the g9II. The original G9 after all the updates is probably quite a beast even by 2023 standards. But there is no comparison anywhere. Because it may turn out that g9 is not so bad :P And twice the price does not necessarily mean twice as many possibilities.

The IP53 certification on the OM1 and the lack of it on the G9II only mean one thing for sure: OM Systems paid for having it and Panasonic didn't. Maybe the OM1 has a clearly better weather sealing, maybe they are just equivalent or maybe they are only slightly different. Only a complete test could prove it!

I own the OM-1, came from the G9. To me the OM-1 does exactly what I need, but sometimes I need to film my wife playing live music and here the video section is disappointing especially the MF sharpness control while filming is impossible as there is no magnification. But I am positive that a future FW will fix it. Great review btw. I like your approach to buy and test uninfluenced by a sponsor.

@Serenoj69

7 ай бұрын

How many usable FW updates did OM sysems get us? I don't know just that I can't remember one.

@peteroehmig845

7 ай бұрын

@@Serenoj69 If a Produkte is good from the start, then you do not need so many FW updates. To me the OM-1 is 98% perfectly usable, if they never make another FW I can still do with it what I want. Plus the longer I use it the better I know it. But that is just for me, your mileage may vary.

Apparently there is indeed a dial lock. I watched a presentation a day or two ago on the Lumix Channel about features of the G9M2 and this question came up. It seems that you have to assign one of your unused Fn buttons to a dial lock through one of the menu options - don't ask me which one, as I'm still a bit mind blown by the menu system. It's not badly laid out: there's just a lot of tech and functions to try and get my head around.

@Sk8Wine

5 ай бұрын

I believe this is the case for the S5. I set this feature up, however a physical dial would be much more convenient.

It makes a lot of sense for Panasonic to use the same S5 II body. It reduces costs for them and means accessories are readily available. If you have G and S bodies, the batteries are the same, you are used to both cameras. For Pros I bet they like it that both cameras feel the same. The sensor in the G9 II cannot be the same as the GH6. There are phase detect pixels on the G9 II sensor. That is a hardware difference.

@sdhute

7 ай бұрын

Shawn from Linux live said the sensor on the g9ii is different from the gh6 on yesterdays live

Completely agree with everything you said, I’m a current GH6 user and have had almost every Lumix camera till now and I loved my G9, I wished many body features and improvements from the first body to come to this one but it was a disappointment, it is fantastic camera sure, I might buy it to have it as a couple to my GH6 but yeah, Lumix got lazy with what was, it’s most popular camera, the G9.

Please please do a comparrison for on1 and g9ii at high iso: 1600 to 6400.

Great review Jimmy. Did you intend to label the video Jack of All Trades, (instead of master?) It seemed to be the jist of your points.

Thanks for this. I’m one of those people that thinks the ergonomic advantage of MFT lies in the lenses. I prefer a slightly bigger body in the hand and then trim the weight in the lenses. I find smaller bodies less comfortable to use. I have a gx85 and don’t care for the ergonomics of that camera. But I have to say the original g9 fit me like a glove and I doubt I’ll ever experience such a perfect fit again. Did you test video auto focus much with your Olympus lenses? I’m curious if you found it reliable?

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Yes, it's pretty reliable in video AF (so far), I've yet to film a ton with it but as this will be my primary KZread video camera so I will report back after another couple of months to see if I notice anything.

This is great for photography itself & gives the buying public a wider choice

New subscriber. I've just bought the OM-1 over the G9ii. I decided on the OM-1 as I wasn't convinced about the G9ii for wildlife and aircraft, I want the lovely 150-400 lens eventually. The £350 discount was a nice bonus. Also I have to wait till Xmas to use it on the wifes instructions. I will also be keeping my Nikon Z6ii for the time being as a back up while I get fully use to the OM-1.

Thanks Jimmy. I've always preferred the Lumix cameras for their ergonomics (nice grips and well-designed menus) and large viewfinders. But that may have changed with the OM1. My G9 is a little too bulky. And I'm blown away by the recent Oly/OM Pro lenses (just got the 40-150 F4 which is great). So I'm seriously considering the OM1 for my next camera. Thanks again for another great review.

I would love to see a comparison for wildlife purposes - maybe in your next video :)

Great review! It feels a bit contrarian for the sake of it, but that's something I enjoy a lot more than endless praise, haha. I've had many a discussion of whether a camera is "pro" or not in the past. With your needs, you might consider most Leica cameras enthusiast or semi-pro, for example. What I mean is that it's a bit of an empty conversation with around a nebulous term. And for the record, I vehemently agree with that it would be a lot nicer to have a dedicated G9ii body, especially one more in line with the MFT design language.

I too find the Focus Point Selection Reset to be annoying (in my case on the S5 II). You can work around this by going to Settings -> Operation 2 -> Joystick Setting, and choosing "Fn" then you can go to Operation 1 -> Fn Button Set, find the Joystick and either set it so the center click and/or direction buttons activates Focus Area Set. This adds one "click" to start setting the Focus Area, but in my opinion thats less irritating than the center resetting the Focus Area. Also, as a fellow Olympus guy one of the things to keep in mind is that the AF mode in relation to Face Detection works fundamentallt differently, which can be frustrating at first. One my E-M1 the AF Point Selection and Face Detect are INDEPENDENT of each other. On my S5 II, they're linked. On the S5, if you have 1 Area or Zone selected AND Face Detection on that will LIMIT Face Detect solely to that Zone/Area. Yo replicate the E-M1s behavior I have to choose "Full Area". I'm still getting a feel for this, but i suspect the Lumix behavior will be very handy with group shots where having an Area defined allows you to isolated faces in a group - say making sure the bride/groom is in focus in a shot with the full wedding party. 🤔 Very interesting review, i agree with the basic thesis that they're not "professional" cameras. One thing I'd add is that the cameras are just "slow", in general. Even something as mundane as rating a photo (a system i like) is frustraningly slow, which makes it very clumsy to quickly rate photos during an event.

What camera did you use for filming this video? The af is great!

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

E-M1X :) It's still an amazing camera in AF!

Seems a pretty biased review to me.

@mehulshewakramani8218

7 ай бұрын

He literally bought the camera with his own money and used it for 2 months in his professional work...

@Serenoj69

7 ай бұрын

@@mehulshewakramani8218 What does it mean? I agree the review is being pretty ridiculous. If you say and EM1.3 (just a tiny upgrade over my EM1.2) does qualify for being a professional cam and G9-2, which is better at probably every aspect, not or even a Gh6 this is ridiculous. From all the reviews I have seen this is the best photography camera mFTS ever had and probably also the best video cvam. Because for the most people PDAF DOES matter. If you need that, and many will, the Gh6 falls falt on his face.

I was not excited about the s5ii body being used for the g9ii. However if your deep into Panasonic it makes sense. You can move from your Panasonic FF to m43 when needed any everything is familiar.

Solid review Jimmy. I appreciate the points about the ergonomics, which often goes a little under-discussed. I bought an OM-1 last year because it was just perfect from an ergonomic perspective. I am a little entertained by your quibble about the dial lock though. I had a G95 for a while and never once made the dial move by accident, even in cold Canadian winters with gloves. I've had a couple cameras with dial locks and a couple without, and haven't found it to be much of an issue either way, if the dial is designed well. The G9 II is really heavy though. While the m43 lenses are still relatively light, the body is like 700+ grams, which is a tank! I thought I'd question your complaint about not having an IP rating. As I'm sure you know, Olympus is the only company that gives IP ratings. That doesn't make a Canon R5, 1DX, Nikon Z9, D5 or Sony A1 not a pro camera though. I wish all camera companies gave IP ratings, but given basically none of them do, I don't think it's reasonable to call that a "pro" feature. As usual, I really appreciate all the photos you put in to your videos, and the real-world usage. Quibbles aside, I trust your opinion since you are a working photographer and post the results of your work regularly. Please keep it up!

@nightowlnzab

7 ай бұрын

It’s 658 grams, about 60g more than the OM-1.

I always find build and design comments fascinating. I agree all cameras should have mode lock that's no negotiable for me. Seems Lumix skipped build costs using S5 body but doesn't seem any savings passed on to the customer. Jimmy is the shutter button still hella sensitive like the G9?

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Thanks mate, no, the G9 II shutter button is better but still a bit 'shallow' in feel, there's more a separation in OM-1 (half press and full press)

I can share most of your thoughts after having spent almost two weeks with the G9II. In this time I did two weddings and three school/kindergarten shootings. I come from the G9, of which I use three bodies. The fact that I can't make photos while filming was for me the first disappointing experience, since I have been using this intensively as a hybrid shooter. Together with the non-lockable mode wheel, the missing shoulder display and some minor flaws it has become a deal breaker for me.

Master of ALL

I am not a Panasonic shooter currently, I shoot Em1.2 and have done so since dec 2016. I have the Lumix lenses mostly -12-35. 35-100 100-400 etc. From all reviews I have seen, including image quality comparisons I would say the G9II is the best hybrid cam but it is also the best photographic cam. Only when we restrict ourselves and then want to make a point, the conclusions may be different. I wonder how Gh6 is more professional than G9-2 and most of all EM1.3. Om1 is a credible pro cam but I can't see it being better than G9-2. Its IQ is worse, its focussing is on par (but seems to have more difficulty here and being a bit better there). Also the high speeds on the cam are only reched with particular lenses, with G9-II if I am correct the lensbrand does not matter. If I want video liek G9-2 and photo too, in mFT, I need to buy an OM1 AND a GH6. Just like the reviewer... Also in the bonus...so it is apparantly better to have a cam that is good in video but sucks at pics at the same price or a more expensive mFT cam that is great at photo's (nbut not better than G9-2_ but sucks in video....If there would have been a clear and large difference, I think the remark would be in place. We are talking about minute differences. Too harsh for the G9-2, too easy on the other two.

Useful video clip Jimmy. I am still undecided between the G9 mark II or the GH6, that I intend to use primarily for wildlife video. As you say, the OM-1, that I already own, is better for photos. One of my particular interests is shooting 4K video at 120fps then slowing it down to 25fps in post production. I will have a look at your GH6 review. Peace ✌️✌️

Standard, normal or vivid setting?

The foibles you personally experienced with your G9 II I have seen on other reviews - albeit a smaller percentage of them overall. Still, because of this I will wait say . . 6 months before getting one. Weather its a quality control issue at the factory - the sloppy joy button, ect or intermittent focusing inconsistencies that can be remedied through future firmware upgrades, I feel patience is warranted. Give Panasonic some time - and the initial customer complaint feedback of this or that - to work out some bugs of this ' new ' model. The same logic applies for not buying anything - cars, TVs, new tech - that relies on the purchasing consumer to be the guinea pig. Until that time my G9 does a pretty good job for me - & I will most likely be keeping. Thanks for your ' critical & detailed ' review.

That was a rather cheeky analysis of the video specs. The G9ii has better specs for video, but look at the GH6... you never really talk about how many worlds apart the G9ii is for video compared to the OM-1. Maybe you'll cover that in a head to head battle with the OM-1.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

If you really hear, I did say that if I film, I use GH6 and not OM-1 in my conclusion. It's my take on the G9 II and you have different priorities and needs. And on top of that I did say at the beginning, I only reference to OM-1 for what I do (not videos but portraits, still photography).

Heh great video but from watching Robin Wongs live cast yesterday a part of it he mentions never comparing lens (cameras) vs Panasonic again. He got attacked from all corners. You're Brave. Good video though and you gave it praise. I do like that they're pushing the mp to 25. If we could get to 40mp on micro 4/3rds id definitely feel confident for the future. I know mp doeent = better shots but it sure helps lol

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

haha yeah, I don't mind comparing them, I use both nowadays for specific reasons and I mentioned that in my conclusion. I can see some 'Panaboys' got upset because I said some negatives in this review, and they totally forgot (or ignore) all the positives I mentioned about the G9 II hahaha.

wow, waited long for these video. meyby i will upgrade my em5 m3 to the g9 m2. i think it will improve with updates soon

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

thanks for watching. there's no doubt that Panasonic will improve the G9 II, as they always have with other models!

@25palex

7 ай бұрын

@@Red35Photography is the dynamic range is much better than em5 mark3?

I see you Zf

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Shhh~~~ that video is coming in the near future hahaha

Canon, Nikon and Sony dominates the professional use and they dont have weatherseal ratings. Canon dominates the sport and action profesional photography and this cameras has any weathersealing rating. Does this mean that this people are not professionals?

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

I am not suggesting that. But if I ask you, and if you are a pro M43 shooter who shoots outside a lot, given a choice, would you choose a camera that has weather proof rating or not. If you are a full frame pro shooters, you have no choice, as none are given a rating, yet, the flagships are usually treated with more and better sealing. I used Canon DSLRs and SLRs for many years and I know the differences, hence I had to go to flagship cameras all the time back then.

@michelesiniscalchi8695

7 ай бұрын

finally someone who says it. For example, I was particularly annoyed that the 12-40 II had as its only difference a higher waterproof certification... without improving what was important... that is, the optical weaknesses of the first version. It's bullshit, smoke and mirrors. You feel cheated like that. More waterproofing does not make for better photos, the previous one was already enough. Remaking a new 35-100 coated by Leica is a joke. The Leica 100-400 II is a joke.

@justint8115

7 ай бұрын

weather sealing rating is just a marketing gimmick. As you said, non of the pro Nikon, Canon, Sony has it. My friend's IP rated Olympus was destroyed after shooting under rain, and Olympus refused to cover it under warranty. They said the rating is just a guideline and use it at your own risk. I would trust a non rated flagship Canon more than a rated Olympus if i have to shoot under rain.

Hmm, have you adjusted the autofocus settings. Were you trying to use face eye while doing body shots? Maybe go to the LUMIX USA KZread channel and find the video about auto focus for the G9 II. Sean a LUMIX USA explain in detail the best settings for autofocus and when to use them.

Hello and thanks a lot for this review. I have a question : I own two ancient Zuiko 4/3 lenses : 12-60 SWD and 50-200 SWD (cheap and good photo quality lenses). I've seen that the S-AF work quite well on the OM bodies (OM-1, EM1x, EM1 MKIII, EM5 MKIII), but of course not as fast as new generation lenses but I don't need fast tracking AF. I'm a photographer and those lenses AF is terrible on my GH5 (aparently because those lenses need phase detection AF to perform correctly). From what I understood you said OM-1 is a better choice for photographers. As it seems that the G9II is still in contrast detection AF in S-AF (phase detection in C-AF) do you think it will still be a problem with those older lenses ? Also from what I understood high iso (3200-6400) seems to be better on OM-1 ? As I also often work by the sea, windy conditions, etc, I think that it will be more secure to be on the om-1 or em1ex ? Thanks !

@michelesiniscalchi8695

7 ай бұрын

there is no real difference in the 1600-6400 ISO range between g9ii and om-1. In my experience the GH6 and G9ii did a little better than the om-1 when it came to photos. And they definitely and certainly do better when it comes to video iso.

@jimofmarseille

7 ай бұрын

@@michelesiniscalchi8695 Thanks for your fast answer ! Do you have any info on the fact that on the G9II phase detection AF only works on AFC and not AFS (only Contrast detection on AFS) ?

@michelesiniscalchi8695

7 ай бұрын

@@jimofmarseille I think so judging by how it behaves and how it pulses before stopping. Same thing for S5 II. But the AFC doesn't make the problem too noticeable and in any case with AFS on static subjects it is quite reliable

@jimofmarseille

7 ай бұрын

@@michelesiniscalchi8695 Thanks. Last question (promise !) do you have this pulse behaviour with the OM-1 in S-AF ? I'm sorry to bother you with that but I can't find a dealer that can show those cameras where I leave where I can test thoses lenses on the bodies.

@michelesiniscalchi8695

7 ай бұрын

@@jimofmarseille I don't remember exactly, sometimes the OM-1 also lacked focus, but I don't know if the OM-1 in AFS uses contrast or phase. It is certainly not better than em1 mark iii, see also Robin Wong's video about it om-1 manages to be less precise in AFS... strange but true. Probably even G9ii and S5ii in AFS do worse than the machines that only had contrast AF... It seems that for every step forward they have to take some backwards

Whoa, is there a new horse 🐎 in the stable, the thoroughbred black & brown one? 😉

Hey Jimmy, I saw a comparison of the HHHR mode of the G9II vs the OM-1 and the G9II has a lot of weird color issues when pushing the shadows extensively (while the OM-1 does not). Can you cover this topic please? I think a lot of M43 stills shooters are debating between the OM-1 and G9II and will often use the HHHR feature to improve noise, color, resolution and dynamic range. I am curious how the HHHR modes of these cameras compare when their files are pushed in post. Can you also please comment on the processing time of the HHHR shots between these two cameras? Thank you so much.

So your entire testing was using the g9 mk2 with Olympus lenses?

@haploguy

7 ай бұрын

yes, a fair review isn't it?

@mistermcluvin2425

7 ай бұрын

@@haploguy How odd yeah? I have both Oly and Pani bodies and I don't believe mis matching affects the optics but it definately effects the auto focusing. What an odd review. It's like someone reviewing the OM-1 with Pani lenses and saying the autofocus doesn't work well. He's right about the mode lock, dial placement and the missing top screen tho.

Grrat review and since the nrw upgrade is even better than GH6...

Thanks for the video, can you recommend some gimbal for travel for om5

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Yes depends on size I recently reviewed two that are really good for Om-5

@malbyink

7 ай бұрын

@@Red35Photography I already looked at the 2 Videos, are the two gimbals equally compatible with the camera? Are they both equally easy to handle? I don't have great lenses, 25mm 1.7 and 45mm 1.8, I have no experience, it is my first camera (OM5) and it would be my first gimbal

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

@@malbyinkcompatibility is more to do with controlling the camera via cables. I don't control camera that way, I just press the record button on the camera and use the gimbal accordingly. All gimbals on the market work with any cameras to be frank, depends on size and weight. Cables allow you to start/stop video recording, change ISO and shutter speed. But in filmmaking, I fix ISO and shutter, I use ND to change light when needed. Gimbal to me is to stabilise videos only. Having said that, looks like you have a very compact system. If this is the size you want to use your set up, Hohem MT2 is great for OM5 and small lenses, it's light and compact, also has the ability to track. Scorp MINI 2 is another option but still little bigger than Hohem. I reviewed Scorp 2 recent and that's for bigger setup.

4:50 No info-LCD on the camera's shoulder. But my guess is that on-the-shoulder-LCDs mainly serve the purpose of 'looking pro'. I'm a happy Oly EM-1 mkII user; for me the exposureInfo in the VF is more than enough. Indeed personal pref [6:05].

I have both and shoot mainly birds, with occasional sports, church interiors etc. The OM-1 has better in-flight tracking, if used in CAF plus subject detection mode. This summer I captured Swallows in full ‘insect catching mode’, no other camera has enabled me to do this. The G9 II has amazing AF for identifying and capturing birds partially hidden in trees, even better than the OM-1. I agree with you about face detection, in my experience, the G9 II can be great or stubbornly non-compliant. The OM-1 is more reliable in this context. In low light, I find the G9 II’s out of camera jpegs have very little noise and excellent detail, better than my OM-1 in the same situation. I really like both cameras, but am not happy with the size and weight of the G9 II. As someone who prefers not to use a strap, the Panasonic can be fatiguing to hold after a while. I am a hobbyist and rarely use video functions.

@mistermcluvin2425

7 ай бұрын

Good info, I have all 3, the OM-1, the GH6 and the G9 Mk2. I sold my G9 Mk1. I would recommend people to get one of each and use which one they feel fits the needs of their particular photo shoot.

maybe like the GH6 you need to play around with the AF settings

It is a pity that all flagshops of m43 are huge. M43 system lost itself

Hey Jimmy, you are a pro .. Im an amature. Please tell me: is a dedicated wb button is really usfull from your point of view?

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Well, yes if you use it a lot. perhaps it affects people who shoot videos and jpeg a lot. It matters less for RAW photographers.

@ar43r

7 ай бұрын

@@Red35Photography : do you use it a lot?

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

@@ar43r yes I do.

According to Panasonic the sensor in the GH6 and G9II are not the same. Panasonic has stated that several times.

@Wildridefilms

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, obviously PDAF is hardware level update, but they've also tweaked the DRboost to work from the base ISO of 100. So in situations with abundant light, the G9ii will have a stop more DR than the OM1 and 2.5 stops more than the GH6

@aiseurnae5976

7 ай бұрын

I have both, the sensor is mostly the same, they have tweaker the DR BOOST and this is great, they also added PDAF but tonality, resolution and videos mode are extremely similar. This is clearly the same sensor with some tweaks.

There is nothing on the GH6 worth buying over the G9ii. Not one feature, whether its the articulating screen, the fan, or anything else. The G9ii as a package is just better, and I hope people realize you can just turn the AF off as you need, but you can't work with DR boost and 2000 ISO in all conditions (nor should you have to).

The G9 ii has better IBIS than the S5 ii. They have made good use of the extra real estate. You need a bigger body for larger telephoto lenses. That's an advantage.

@aiseurnae5976

7 ай бұрын

I have both. It's not that simple. The G9II has (much) better IBIS past 30mm FF equivalent, but between 16 and 30mm absolutely not. The G9II has even more woobling than the GH5. Also, like he said in the video, the G9II sometimes makes little "jump" when the camera is slightly moved from the bottom to the top or to the left to the right and vice versa. It's because the camera is tuned to get excellent stabilization when walking forward, but it is not as good as before when you pan or when you slightly move the camera in some directions while walking. Using the new Electronic stabilization helps a lot and the performance are great, but you lose some fine details because of the crop. Using the ES in the 5,7K mode keeps better details, but the 5,7K mode has worse IBIS than 4K or C4K, this is not new, almost nobody speaks about it, but this is true since the Lumix S1/S1H, the high resolution modes like 5,7K or 5,9K have worse IBIS. The G9II is a great camera, but nothing can't cheat with physics. Most of the time when they improve something, something else is impacted. The new AF and the DR BOOST at low ISO are the main strenghts of the camera. In my opinion, the G9II is a better value than the GH6 and OM-1 for hybrid shooters. But like I kept my S5 and S1 when I bought the S5II, I also kept my GH5 when I bought the GH6 and G9II, these old cameras have some strenghts than the new cameras have lost.

@thewalkingvloggingman7152

7 ай бұрын

The GH5 II and GH6 has better Ibis than All of the Lumix cameras.

@aiseurnae5976

7 ай бұрын

@@thewalkingvloggingman7152 It depends a lot of the focal lenght and the utilisation. The G9II has better IBIS than the GH6 when using lenses >50mm FF equivalent, especially while walking with the camera.

@Sk8Wine

5 ай бұрын

@@aiseurnae5976 what does the GH5 have that these newer ones don't? I just bought the G9 II to replace the GH5...

@aiseurnae5976

5 ай бұрын

@@Sk8Wine Very fine details are sharper on the GH5, both the G9II and GH6 use a digital filter to reduce moiré (and it works well) but slightly reduce fine details resolution. However, if you don't crop a lot, it's hard to see the difference.

You know what, I am MAD! I waited for your video on the G9II and what did I get? You told me just the things I thought Pannasonic should have kept or fixed. They should have used the same body or close to it as the G9. I will be keeping my G9 and working with Luminar Neo to PP my shots as well as Lightroom. I simply, simply do not understand for the life of me that most companies don't and won't listen to the people that have purchased the first modle and put $$$ in their pockets in the first place. Another missed oportunity by my favorite camera company (maybe). Thanks Panasonic! Great video.

I've had gh6 then om-1 and now g9 ii for three weeks. I have to say that going from gh6 to om-1 was a disappointment for me. I had gotten used to 25 megapixels and better videos especially in full hd. I have owned om-1 up to firmware version 1.3. On video, the OM-1's AFC also disappointed me a lot when using person recognition. It worked well and reliably in afc without subject specific recognition. The GH6 disappointed me because in photos it was only valid with still subjects, some movement was enough to have blurry photos with a very imprecise AFC. But for posed subjects it was very good. In the video the AFC often throbbed and bothered me a lot. Many have found themselves with a sensor that produces stripes in high contrast situations, fortunately mine didn't, or I never noticed... Using the dynamic boost mode was cumbersome and apparently the sensor didn't produce good dynamic range even in photos below 800 ISO. Bad battery life. I believe that the % of really precise in-focus photos with gh6 was around 30%, very few... With g9 ii we have improved the situation of the dynamic range and the stripes on the sensor, we have improved the stabilization, we have improved the battery life (but om-1 is the best for this) and above all the autofocus which with any firmware I hope can be perfect. Now with the G9 II I have a much higher in-focus photo rate than the Gh6, at least 80% if not even 90%. I also noticed a deterioration in AFS which only uses contrast from what I understand. This problem also affects the S5II (which I used for 8 months). Before I had no hope of stopping moving subjects in photos, especially those that were approaching or moving away (not even with the s5II in photos) I believe that for now the g9ii has overall the best autofocus system ever created by Panasonic. The g9 ii is finally allowing me to achieve excellent results. The fact that it is resistant to freezing guarantees waterproofness. It couldn't resist the frost otherwise. Let's remember that the main aspect of a camera must first of all be to guarantee maximum quality and maximum reliability... it must not remain underwater. In fact, you too RED had to get the GH6 to get a better resolution because as you said in a video, 20 megapixels were too few for the professional work that required you. So let's not kid ourselves by saying that a waterproof certificate is more important than everything else I just mentioned. For me the g9ii is professional in all respects and does everything the GH6 does and does it even better (except unlimited video recording in manual focus) while remaining lighter and more compact. If I don't notice that I'm turning a ring because there's no lock button, I'm not paying attention, I don't see it as such a serious flaw in the camera, it's my mistake. Even if I slam it on the ground and break it, it's my mistake. Having said that I hope they still improve the AF, if it improves a little further I can be 100% satisfied. I also hope Olympus announces those rumored lenses. The leica 100-400 sucks, the version II is simply pathetic, the image quality is already quite ridiculous, normally with the multiplier it simply becomes rubbish (I tried with the 2x). Furthermore, the fact that no one has done a review on the new Leica 35-100 f2.8 says a lot... they probably just redid the external design, a wasted opportunity, a more qualitative lens would have been needed. The new Leica 12-35 seems to have received some improvements, in particular resistance to flare and focusing distance... at least some progress... But honestly they need to do things more seriously when it comes to the lens sector. The only valid telephoto lenses in the system remain the 40-150 f2.8 pro, the 300 f4 pro, the Leica 200 f2.8 and obviously the King Olympus 150-400 which however is too expensive for most people. The new Olympus 40-150 f4 doesn't have image quality up to the level of these lenses I mentioned and it's not good... I would have liked it as a compact option instead of the 40-150 f2.8 but I can't compromise on a tele has optical weakness at the longest focal length, that is precisely the most important focal length. That's not good. We need to seriously refine what already exists and is starting to get too old. A round of applause for the excellent Leica 9mm and the 45 f1.2 pro which I consider to be the best optics of all the micro 4/3. I hope they announce the 50-250 f4 soon and that it is really compact and with up to par image quality at all focal lengths, just like the 40-150 f2.8 or the Olympus 150-400 f4.5. See you soon.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and your words. To be frank, I highlighted what I needed to for this review. Weatherproof rating is important and given a choice I would always choose that over non-rated bodies. You point taken and my portrait agency now requires 24MP and so I was 'forced' to get new camera for my jobs. Yet, my other work, and including travel assignments, all still OM-1 and OM-5. Both Panasonic and OM are needed to make this community work. I've said the goods and bad on G9II, equally GH6 and even OM-1 (I mentioned about CAF too). So I am not biased, or may be some because I am still an OM ambassador, but only because I believe in their system and gear, I said before, as soon as OM gives me a 25MP sensor, I will move back (though still keep the GH for filming because I know OM won't care about videos too much).

@aiseurnae5976

7 ай бұрын

Like you, I've "upgraded" from the GH6 to the G9II, the G9II performs better than the GH6 in most areas, but I have a hard time with skin tones and overall colors, I prefer the colors and skin tones from the GH6, the G9II has reddish skin tones, greens are not as nice in my opinion and are oversaturated. Not an issue for photos, but in video it's a bit more time consumming.

@michelesiniscalchi8695

7 ай бұрын

@@aiseurnae5976 true, but I don't find it very serious as a worsening, in the end the colors of the g9ii are also quite good.

@aiseurnae5976

7 ай бұрын

@@michelesiniscalchi8695 Yes this sensor from TowerJazz is great, I prefer the colors from this one over the Sony sensor inside the S5II.

@Sk8Wine

5 ай бұрын

@@aiseurnae5976 if you have Davinci Resolve, you can just do a colour transform on V-log footage? This should give you 'near' matches to any camera science you want. I tend to colour transform my HLG profile to Blackmagic gaumet on my GH5. Interested to see how well this works with the G9 II as I have noticed the skin colours are an odd pinkish colour.

You clarified the difference between the best hybrid and the best camera. Well done! I too would rather have the best for a specific job than the best Jack of all trades.

So many lies in one video: 1. "G9II is too big because it has the same body as S5II and a smaller sensor": ackshually, the G9II is smaller than the original G9 which was "great" and the m43 sensor unit is actually the same size as a FF sensor unit, if you look at teardown videos. 2. "no mode lock" ackshually there is a customizable function button that locks all settings, tard 3. joystick: skill issue 4. "G9II has the same sensor as GH6" - outright lie ackshually: it's a different sensorsince it effing has PDAF pixels on it; how r3tarded do you have to be to think you can add PDAF to a sensor like a sticker to a window plus the wiring, the ADC, etc 5. "highlight clipping" - outright lie all other reviewers found the OM1 clipping far worse WITH added color shifting in the shadows 6. AF - probably the only "reviewer" who found it worse than GH6, literally ludicrous - testing with OM lenses too 7. IBIS - testing with OM lenses, LMAO - did he test OM1 with Lumix lenses The only thing I got from this clown act was that OM is desperate. Not a good look.

@Sk8Wine

5 ай бұрын

This! But without r3tard

The G9ll is the successor of the G9 and has nothing to do with the GH6. The G series is more for photographers and the GH series for videographers. They also don't have the same sensor and there are other things being said here that aren't true. But you can't expect an OMDS fanboy to find the G9ll better than the outdated OM-1 because nobody bites the hand that feeds them.

Looks like a good camera, but I would never pay such money for little m4/3 chip, producerts and generally camera market got crazy in last years. I will still keep my G80 for some time because to replace it for another m4/3 camera is not an upgrade and I don't rellieve belive to their "propaganda," it can have better ergonomy, better finder and display, but it's still just m4/3.

Thanks for posting yours impressions. For the first time we've got cameras that use the same interface and batteries across two mounts/sensor-sizes. To use both mft and ff without grappling with two different interfaces is great. And 25mp offers more crippling options than OM so far.

You didn't say if you had set up human eye detect auto focus. It is not the default.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Yes have set it all up, with face and eye on too, like I said, it works most of the time but not 'all the time'. Other systems I've tried will fail from time to time, just the G9 II misbehaves more often than others. And it really struggles with backlit.

@haploguy

7 ай бұрын

@@Red35Photography with olympus lenses, 'tard?

No in-camera-HDR in G9 II and S5 II.😢

@Sk8Wine

5 ай бұрын

It has HLG colour profile, same as GH5 did, which is HDR10?

The stacked sensor on the OM-1 is still a selling point for me, and something that would make me choose it over G9ii anytime. Otherwise, this looks like a fantastic camera.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Yes, the stacked sensor is pretty slick and I never mind too much about megapixel, but hey, what do I know, many still want more pixels and the more the better :)

@JezdziecBezNicka

7 ай бұрын

For a while I thought the megapixel war is behind us. Marketing people never cease to amaze me :D 8-10 megapixels is plenty for even a very large print, but yeah I guess I need 80 for some reason :D

🤦We just want Panasonic to do "3 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THINGS" for us and other "2 HOPEFUL THINGS": 3 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THINGS 1- Brings back the Lumix gh5S, with the same Specs it already has, but with the new AF system and some 4k 120p and 240p 10-bit 422 internally (but With IBIS). 2- Makes it bigger the MFT Sensor (with the Maps Scan Sensor Technology), about x1.5 crop factor, instead only the x2 crop factor. We know it is possible, because MFT Lens can cover a x1.7 to a x1.5 Crop Sensor (See the Example of the JVC GY LS300 camera). And Make it possible to use Lumix L-Lens and MFT lens as well in these newest m43 cameras. 3- Like the Lumix L-Primes F/1.8 Line up, DEVELOP A NEW PLASTIKY AND AFFORDABLE F/1.0 MEGA O.I.S PRIMES FOR THE M43 LINE-UP, with all the basics focal length available (Base on the idea or the spirit of Affordable "Lumix 42.5mm f1.7 Mega O.I.S Lens"). 🕵️ Why? Because of the presence of this magic fast zoom 10-25/25-50mm f1.7 lens, it does not make any sense to buying a F/1.7 Primes any more). We want to see some: - 9mm f/1.0 Mega O.I.S Lens. - 12mm f/1.0 Mega O.I.S Lens. - 14mm f/1.0 Mega O.I.S Lens. - 17mm f/1.0 Mega O.I.S Lens. - 25mm f/1.0 Mega O.I.S Lens. - 35mm f/1.0 Mega O.I.S Lens. - 50mm f/1.0 Mega O.I.S Lens. - 75mm f/1.0 Mega O.I.S Lens. "2 HOPEFUL THINGS" 1- Bring us TAMRON APS-C y VILTROX (AF) Lens Company to the M43 party. We want to see the 17-70mm f2.8 in the m43 line-up. As well, we want to see those super fast Viltrox 27mm and 75mm f1 2 Pro Lens for MFT. 2- Down a little the price of the Zoom 10-25mm f1.7 and the 25-50mm f1.7. Make them more affordable (Maybe around $900 to $1100 U.S) As an older owner of the Panasonic Lumix GH4 camera, that's all I would like too see for the future of the M43 line-up to stay there and not move on. 😍🙏🏾🫶

Thanks for the review. I think Panasonic should have stuck with the original G9 body, keeping the top plate, mode lock, the EVF eye relief adjustability and the front mode toggle lever. All of those things missing on the Mk2 suggest to me that the Panasonic marketing team overruled the engineers, who I think probably do know what they are doing, deciding that they didn't want a MFT body being more "pro" than one of their FF bodies. I expect that quite a few Panasonic users will after waiting a long time for this release, end up moving to OM.

I really don't see why anybody should be surprised by this. He is a Olympus ambassador, and if he says the Panasonic camera is as good or better than the Olympus camera, he would be fired from his job. How can he say anything but what he said. Biased how completely biased. I don't know why anybody would bother to even listen to the video or watch it as it's so much for crap.

It's a good camera, but not something that I will buy. This is because my current cameras can deliver 99% of what I need. As for the balance 1%, it does not matter to me at all.

"I will not compare this to my Olympus..."[does nothing but compares it to Olympus for 20 minutes].

This channel is becoming ridiculous. I encourage you to make such a "critical" video about the OM1 xD

For my live music professional photography I'm using an S5. I don't need PDAF. When I had the G9, I wanted several updates on the mark ii, or from OM. Few of them on either cameras have been met. A completely new sensor with both 25~ mp sensor AND better DR/ISO is needed. Om1 has only 20, and G9II has mediocre DR and both cams ISO is nothing special maxing out at 1600 for acceptable IQ. I agree with Robin Wong. We need a (real wow camera) in the OM2. The original G9 & Em1 III are better value for money than both G9II and OM1 imo. Sorry.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't disagree what you said, but I think people need to manage their expectation when it comes to camera developments base on formats. There are physical limits. I've spoken extensively with engineers at Olympus before, they told me there are many M43 sensors that on paper look really good but they simply aren't 'ready' to be used in camera bodies, power consumption, heat (which relates to noise at higher ISO when boosted)... etc.) They chose sensors that can give the best possible performance while maintaining battery life. Their latest stacked sensor is a triumph in those areas, though they need to work on the AF a bit more in my opinion. Panasonic when with more megapixels route but using slower and more traditional CMOS technologies. It's almost like most technologies, more advance stuff exist but they aren't ready for mass productions or use. Just look at global shutter sensor on the A9, it's taken years to make its real appearance on camera and still only very modest resolution. We now live in a world with high tech gadgets, flooded with news about the latest development and presume that we will have it tomorrow. Yet, most left disappointed, same as electric cars, advanced batteries are now almost ready but will we get it next year? probably not, may be in a few years if we are lucky.

@sdhute

7 ай бұрын

Totally agree right now in the US g9i body with flash for 800.

@ofmetalphilosophy4837

7 ай бұрын

@@Red35Photography excellent. But it seems to me, and again Robin would agree, that MFT has stopped really at the Em1 II and G9. Anything after them is just incremental upgrade imo. Adding handheld high Res is nice but nothing essential or vital, and dding more fps and more resolution to the VF are not going to make me want to throw away my Em1ii or my G9 to spend +1500£ on either of them. I replaced the G9 with S5 because I wanted one thing and one thing only: ISO invariance margin. On dark stages and sever changes in lighting I need such flexibility. I don't care bout the shallower dof or shooting clean at 12800. Or else I would have kept it. It is still a formidable camera (so is the Em1ii)

@Sk8Wine

5 ай бұрын

S5 is a bargin now that the S5 II came out. I love my S5. Just a shame about the micro HDMI.

Firmware will improve it definitely. So dont worry too much. Lumix is good at releasing half baked products then improving by firmware update.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Absolute, hence I am keeping the G9 II for the foreseeable future to see how good it can get.

@aiseurnae5976

7 ай бұрын

@@Red35Photography I hope they will improve the "jumps" of the IBIS when panning or moving the camera to some directions while walking. This is disappointing because even my old GH5 performs better when doing this with focal lenghts

GH6 ssupposedly has poor dynamic range at low iso.

I appreciate Red's channel, but he is...not the most accurate.

lol panaosnic autofocus is just cofusing

Mr. Cheng I am greatly disappointed by this review, admittedly I only got twelve and one half minutes into it before I could listen no more. We understand you are an OM ambassador but you should not trash everything you can about Panasonic while pretending to be an advocate of the MFT format. It is interesting that so many other reviewers did not encounter the myriad problems you seem to stumble over in under thirteen minutes. Any positive thing you mentioned was quickly followed by a "but". To be honest I strongly am considering withdrawing my subscription to this channel that I have enjoyed so much because I think you cannot contain your bias. I will attempt to finish watching your"review" and decide if I should stay as a subscriber, regardless of my final decision I think you are a skilled photographer who has much to share with the community if you could get a handle on your OM bias and stop taking cheap shots at Panasonic, it just reduces your credibility.

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your words Robert. I guess you didn’t get this video. I praised a heck of a lot for Gh6 and my conclusion said that G9II is a great camera, just not for my portrait works (at present time with current format). I didn’t trash Panasonic, only speaking what I found and reported here. I am not saying anything overly positive because it’s been said and repeated a thousand times in other videos already. I am highlighting what G9 II do for my photography. As a note, I am keeping the G9 II and see of future firmware will fix the issues I mentioned here. Without video like this, Panasonic will never know some shortcomings, if they listen, they will improve the camera.

@gregfeeler6910

7 ай бұрын

I think you are taking what is honest assessment as criticism. Without exception, all of the pre-release G9II "reviews" I've seen on KZread were gushing about it's total "perfection". No, not in those words but that was the message. Nothing in what Jimmy said was factually wrong, and he was crystal clear that this review was done in the context of his needs as a professional photographer. I think using the S5II body after waiting six years for the new G9 says was a mistake. Cost cutting? Lack of commitment? Just bad judgement? But, given dropping digital camera sales overall, should they be cursed for this or praised for even introducing a new G9? I think both would be most helpful. It's a market fact that they are playing catch up by finally adding phase detect autofocus, and if it's not "prefect" in the G9II with firmware 1.0 it will likely improve with updates. As Jimmy said, the same was true for the OM-1. For me, the lack of a mode dial lock is a big problem but it came with using the S5II body. Olympus/OMDS has raised the bar with cameras and lenses with the highest recognized standards for weather sealing, which was the exact reason quoted by National Geographic Magazine a few days ago when they named the OM-1 the best wildlife photography camera: www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/9-best-compact-cameras-national-geographic. Panasonic doesn't make that commitment, and each person must decide how important this is for them. I am not a video shooter, but if I was while also being a photographer, I would look very hard at the G9II, and many will. No product is "perfect" for everyone, but the message I heard from this video - and the view I already had - was that as the dust settles, the G9II will be seen as the best video/photo hybrid camera on the market in any sensor size, but not the best for either video OR photo. But that's OK as a dual function camera is a real need, and I think it will be successful for both Panasonic and the MFT world. I'm anxious to see Jimmy's "full" review of the GH6, G9II, and OM-1 later. More information is always better. Peace out.

@Centauri27

7 ай бұрын

I'm not calling you a Panasonic fanboy, but your response sure feels like a fan who's been wronged. Jimmy was just being honest (and perhaps courageous, knowing the blowback he'll probaby receive). It's important to highlight pros and cons of everything in a review. That way, we get all perspectives as we watch the various KZread reviews. I don't consider anything he said to be a cheap shot (unlike the Northrup gang against mr4/3).

@petermcginty3636

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Jimmy. As a side issue, did you enjoy the SOOC colours of the G9Mkii?. Before I bought my OM-5, I used a G85 and I really enjoyed is colours SOOC. Cheers, Peter

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I like the SOOC from G9 II, seems ok, I like the less 'plastic' look than OM actually, but at the same time, I prefer the colours from OM hahaha.

I feel like Lumix has lost the plot … Shouldnt G9 be a photography-centered camera? But its also Hybrid, same as GH6…? Also it has a M43 sensor, inside a full frame body like S5… what is the point? I dont understand what Panasonic is thinking. I wish they would stick to the main advantage of M43, which is compact and mobility..

@Wildridefilms

7 ай бұрын

It is no bigger or heavier than the original G9. This is their flagship hybrid camera and is intended for use with larger lenses like the f1.7 and f2.8 zooms and the super telephoto lenses. Fo ra truly compact MFT from them, we'll have to wait for a GX9 update.

@iamhassan9943

7 ай бұрын

LUMIX has not lost the plot. The G9 II is their photo centric flagship M43 camera for now. But, Their customers ARE asking for video features. Having video features does not make a camera less photo centric. Having a hybrid a great for both worlds.

@stoneroses8818

7 ай бұрын

@@iamhassan9943 yeah but for photographers who dont shoot videos why would we waste money for functions we dont need? I like the previous Panasonic diverse system, where theres a photo centric, video centric and hybrid type of cameras for everyone to choose. Besides GH6 is only out last year and already they want to kill it off with G9?

@iamhassan9943

7 ай бұрын

@@stoneroses8818 Times have changed. And just because YOU may not use a feature does not mean someone else will not. Manufacturers are not doing different SKUs like that. Leica can because, well they are Leica. It makes no sense and waste resources in a market that is not like it was years ago. The Nikon Z f and Leica Q3 are prime examples of this. Both have video features that the intended audience may never use. Or if they do maybe sparingly. As for the GH6, improvements come. You are not guaranteed non obsolescence. A new GH6 II or 7 will come. That is obvious as Lumix is committed to PDAF. They are not killing off the GH6. PDAF was not ready for the GH6 and they were too far along in development to not put the camera to market. You want a great M43 video camera get a GH6. A great photo oriented M43 that happens to be a great video camera? G9II. Of course the G9 II was not a last minute camera. Lumix has a plan. They didn’t just come up with the G9 II over night to kill off the GH6.

@Wildridefilms

7 ай бұрын

@@stoneroses8818 That is such a close minded take. You obviously don't have to use the features you don't need. The G9ii is pretty much as good a photo camera as the OM1 and as good a video camera as the GH6 while being cheaper than both. Do you not understand how good a value proposition that is? What is with this mentality of "I don't want to pay for features I don't need"? All cameras now try to be hybrids to appeal to everyone and the G9ii is doing an incredible job as a hybrid.

Had the original G9 and it was a quality control nightmare. They had to replace it twice. The final one I got needed a repair and a month after warranty went away the front dial went bad and the wanted $480 to just replace that wheel. Never again Panasonic! And I learned I only like using small cameras for fun and work using the em5 and om5.

@castielvargastv7931

7 ай бұрын

Monday cameras exist with all brands. I have a gh5 since 2018 and everything is fine

@WhoIsSerafin

7 ай бұрын

@@castielvargastv7931 I don’t understand exactly what you’re saying

@Red35Photography

7 ай бұрын

He's referring to every brand has lemon cameras... just unlucky to get a bad camera.

@WhoIsSerafin

7 ай бұрын

@@Red35Photography but it was 3 bad cameras under their warranty program and then there is the Gx85 another one that had a bad dial wheel.

@bingbong4848

7 ай бұрын

I've had my g9 for years and not one problem. Gets used everyday and bumped around a lot. Do you take your cameras up mount everest or something? 😂