Tim, Former fork lift operator here, The "book" says that the forks need to be at least 2/3 the way into the pallet for safety. Thanks for the videos. Stay Safe.

I'm not usually a cat person but, I think that little guy needs his/hers own KZread channel... I don't really remember what you were talking about... I think it was something about pallet fork color or spacing... Anyway great "cat" video! Thanks for sharing❗❗❗ 🙂🙂🙂 👍👍👍

A little over a year ago, you guided me to the 36" forks and haven't regretted it since. Always appreciate your videos Tim.

having understood your talking points I still have to say those cats shore do make your videos. they will be missed when the weather warms up an you are working out side but for now I will enjoy them god bless you and the cats

I was about to purchase 42" forks for my 1025R. Was worried that the 36 wouldn't be long enough, but after watching this video, and taking into consideration my uses, you saved me some money! Thanks for your videos!

I love these "teaching" videos. There's just soooo much to learn about tractors. I'm sold on getting 36ers now. Thanks.

Just decided on some pallet forks a couple of days ago, went with the 42", but I see your points. Love the kitties!

Great information about palette forks! Good pros and cons of each size. I may get the 36” and then make fork extensions if extra length is needed for lifting bulky stuff. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. 👍

Thanks for making this. I had just done research on which size to get and I finally had settled on 3"x36" same as you for much the same reasons. Great timing!

Tim you were reading my mind. Just this morning I was debating on what length of forks I need and the pros and cons to each. Very ironic!

Great information, Tim. I'm in the market for forks and am now convinced the 36" will serve me just fine. Very timely and thank you!

Agree. The cats had me dying laughing.

Your sage advice is ALWAYS helpful - thanks again for a practical video.

Looking at the Artillian since they are working so well for you, and will save storage / trailer space.

Looking to buy these this year, thanks for taking the time and sharing your perspective.

Good morning Tim. Thanks for the comparison - very timely. I have been looking at different fork options for about a month and this helped a lot. Loved watching your helpful assistants demonstrate the equipment. LOL. Be well - I wish you and your family all the best - stay safe!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Morning! I decided on the 42". So far so good. This video helped a lot. Cheers!

Hey Tim got the the frontier pallet fork frame and 36 inch forks as well. for my 1025R and absolutely love them!!! The titan 36 inch ones was on back order until middle of August and needed them now to move stuff around.

I have 2 sets of 48" forks, and 1 set of 72". I almost never use the 72" set though. Love your video Tim. Very good points were made!

All very good points to consider with forks on a subcompact model. Those points can also be used for really any size tractor. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.

Great video!!!! Love the comparison and thought process. Many things I did not consider and proves bigger is not necessarily better. Thank you!

Great video Tim. I have a set of 42" forks on my L3901DT and sometimes I wish I had a shorter set. Mostly when I'm in the woods trying to get turned around with a log on the forks. Was a little surprised at the loss of lifting power the little extra distance from the pivot point. I knew it would be less, just not that much. Nice added information to the video. You need to teach the cats to run one of the tractors for you, they sure seem to like your JDs. All my male cat wants to do is sleep on the seat.

I have a Kioti CK3510, I just purchased 48" forks, but you have a lot of good points here - I may go best of both worlds and pick up a 36" or so for all my rock moving - certainly easier to maneuver!

Another great episode of Tractor Time with Tim .most educational Tractor & equipment channel.

I "GREEEEEZE" the front of my Artillian plate with candle wax that was given to me by the designer. Really helps moving the forks around.

💥 I agree with you Tim! shorter forks have more advantages for compact tractors. Good demonstration and covering different scenarios. Keep on tractoring!

You put a smile on my face Tim, genuine my friend

@TractorTimewithTim

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to hear that!

Tim, I'm glad I listened to your advise last fall and went with the 36" forks for my own Johnny. I can see your points and it really is all that I'll need for my 1025R. And now that my pallet racks are together, I'm happily using the forks to store stuff on them! Can't wait to use them outside this year too!

@TractorTimewithTim

4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear about your new pallet racking!

@wingersww

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you pointed me in the right direction for the pallet racks as well. Thank you!

Two years ago , I bought the set with 48". After experiencing the same thing, I bought 36" forks. I wish you had this video then. You cat reminds me of Tom and Jerry, my favorite cartoon.

I agree 100% on short forks. I have 36” forks on my Kubota M6060 and the biggest reason I like them shorter is dumping. I have a grapple made on my fork frame for logs and when loading tall trucks or stacking logs high short forks help give more tilt for the log to roll off. Long forks hit and you can’t get as much tilt. I plan to be in Louisville on that Saturday, hope to get a chance to meet you!

Like your comparisons and comments. All seem to make sense. I just like my 42 inch forks for picking up branches and yard debris along with "compressing" piled-up debris as tightly as possible. Don't have a grapple or may have a different opinion.

Thank you for passing on that wisdom on fork length. Personally, I'm sold. Oh and the cats have been on so many of your videos, that they really should get a film credit!

Helpful video and presentation, Tim! I've got a Solectrac e25 compact electric tractor, and I experienced bait-and-switch didn't get what I paid for on that machine initially. All e25 units equipped with loaders for direct sales when I picked up from the factory had the old Farmtrac-style loader rated for 400lbs lifting capacity. I was surprised to learn at time of handover that all e25 units there in the same assembly area featuring the KMW made-in-USA loader rated for 1300lbs lifting capacity (as pictured on the website and mentioned by several sales people and the person handling my direct sales order) were only being sold through dealers. Although I'd been told by sales people that mine would have the new loader it didn't, and I complained after trying to make it work but it just wasn't useful and could not lift a full bucket of dirt. After some back-and-forth Solectrac sent out a technician with the newer style KMW (made-in-USA and more robust) front loader to swap on-site at their cost. In your presentation you sound kind of disappointed with 540lbs lift capacity at 42-in distance from the frame - for the 400lbs lifting capacity of an older Solectrac with the Farmtrac-style loader would a fork frame have been useful at all? I'm so glad as someone brand new to compact tractors and farm equipment to have your videos to learn from. Today I received my order for an Artillian SSQA frame with 36-in tines and a backrest, it's really exciting to add that capability. The KMW loader does about as good as I think can be expected from a small tractor like the Solectrac e25, and Solectrac does not yet offer a 4WD tractor that is more capable (although I've heard a rumor they are developing a 50HP equivalent all-electric that is 4WD). For a 25HP or 30HP tractor what kind of weight on a pallet could you expect to pick safely? Like, could you pick a full pallet of 200qty 1.33lb/ft 6ft T-posts, or what machine would you choose for something like this? 06:55 oversized mousetrap - look out kitty cat (Martha)! 😲

Timely.. Was going to order a pallet fork and was debating what length. Thx for the vid.....and the others you've made!!

Thanks for the videos. I have an army generator that weighs 960-pounds. It is made on skids in such a way that 36" forks wouldn't be long enough - it would be up into the sweet twin-cylinder Onan diesel engine, and I move this thing fairly often. The generator and the forks is at the limit of a 1025r, but I can lift and move it only with 42" forks, especially when someone helps lift a little on the end lol. So, yes, it is weaker out there on the end, but my 42" Titan forks work fine for my purposes.

Thank you Tim. I actually wanted to ask you about the fork length!! Funny how that works. I think of and you deliver!!

Great video Tim, you brought up a lot of great points that I never really thought about. 36 it is 👍

I just bought a 1025r Tractor Loader and wanted to look into forks. Thanks for the info. Gotta say your cat absolutely made this video even though I was here for the forks :) Thanks Alot!

Forklift industry standard is 42” but with shorter forks as long as your forks are engaged 2/3s of the pallet. That is acceptable, not ideal, but it is acceptable. I use 1 1/2 X 3 X 30 on my 1025R. Work great. Nice load test. Typically on a forklift, ratings are at 24” load center. Moving that load 3 inches forward derates the lift capacity about 300 lbs. Thanks for the informative videos.

What a catastrophy! Loved it. And I agree (not that my opinion matters) on the 36" forks for the sub-compacts.

I wish I had saw this video before I bought my forks. I have the 42” and there have been many of times they have been too long. But I have to say I love them. I have them on more than the bucket. Just so many things you can use them for.

@RandyBeretta-db5bg

7 ай бұрын

Cut them down to 36 or get another set.!

Great common sense thoughts! Tip.....Drill holes in the center of the forks about 3-4 inches from the ends that will accept an eye-bolt. You can use the forks as a crane without the danger of the strap or chain slipping off. Also consider getting a pair of fork extensions, they come in handy for that special reach or large skids.

Thank you for the thoughtful insight. I'm looking at buying a set and was debating if the shorter forks would be functional with a pallet. I suppose not tipping the forks up and point loading the pallet is key. I saw a Stihl power brush in the background - keeping your driveway gravel off the grass?

Good video Tim. Sometimes fork length is determined by the job it does the most of. A warehouse forktruck just about always has short forks. I love the cats.

Ironically, your video was a day late for me as yesterday I ordered a pallet frame and forks. I wavered on what fork length to purchase and went with the 42". Excellent insight though!

Love your videos Tim!! Ever thought to paint the tips of the forks fluorescent orange to help with seeing them? Take care!

Good info Tim! I run a fork truck at my part time gig, actually 2 different size forklifts. I always prefer the shorter smaller forks. That being said we do a lot of warehouse stocking, and loading to trucks. You can always grab a strap or chain to pull, or use another empty pallet to push. I see the Stihl Kombi tool set up in the background....please tell me your planning a review! I have a few of the attachments but am really interested in the power broom (bristle brush). I have the power sweep (paddle wheel looking thing) and really like it, especially for snow! I would like to know your thoughts. The weed whip, pole saw, and even the blower (for light duty) are great. A tad bit heavy, but plenty of power, and torque. Although the rev limiter kind of drives me nuts.

Tim, gota thank you for the video, id been thinking about what setup to get and size, believe this video helped me make that decision..

Hi Tim I think you missed one other point for shorter forks ,less chance of poking holes in your wall when loading pallet racks.Keep up the good work.

@wingersww

4 жыл бұрын

I was worried about this with mine too, but since I went with 36" forks I should OK.

@wildbill23c

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot about that one too. Very important. Well a 42" fork with a full size pallet is fine too. They put a couple holes in the wall under the multi-plex at work because the pallet jack had 48" long forks.

Own clamp on receiver hitch and forks, never given it a thought. Good Video, THANKS Tim.

Good talk. 36 inch will meet the needs I have.

Great points on the fork lengths!

I like longer forks because I've found sometimes longer pallets will come apart. But I usually am using a forklift and my tractor is much bigger then a compact.

Digging with the forks works but it’ll bend me over time. I need some forks for my 1025R for sure. Always running into times when they’d come in handy. I’d love to make it down to Louisville (from Evansville, IN) for the show and pick your brain on some stuff.

​ @Tractor Time with Tim I've read "you're running out of subject material" many times. It's an interesting response when viewers feel they can't relate. It's usually written on the videos I actually CAN relate to. lol.

Your cats are very amusing, very entertaining. Great video!

Made me think twice, I agree. I’ll go with the shorter forks. Thanks

I went with the Titan 60" forks for my 4066r. I like them when I have to unload a truck and when I'm in the woods picking logs. Overall I would buy them again over shorter forks.

@simd510

2 ай бұрын

how are longer forks good for picking logs in the woods? doesnt it make it hard to maneuver?

Your example # 4 (increased dumping height) got me on board as I have plenty of timber and the like ; I guess Bigger is Not Always Better. I'm hoping to get a set of forks for my Kioti CK2620 next Spring 2024. Thanks for the Tips. - N Idaho -

Love the video and love watching the cats miss with you lol God bless

Great video, helped me a lot

Hey Tim, I have a feeling the poor vision would be a Deere problem only with the loader stand that high and the very large cover over the hoses! On my Massey GC1723e I certainly do not have a problem seeing my forks. I have a set of 42 inch forks for a skid steer. They are very heavy but i manage to get by. You can see me moving treest in my videos.

Thanks for that very useful information. Love the Kitty Cats!!

Good info...Very funny sidekicks!

Looks like you need more subjects. How about comparing the different grapples. I agonized for weeks before deciding which grapple to purchase weighing weight, length, opening etc. I have seen your comparison on one vs. 2 on the artillian but there are many more options out there and once I purchased my grapple I found it to be my favorite purchase.

You read my mind. This spring I would like to get a set of forks. It’s easier to pull the attachments out of my shed

Sorry man but your cat just steal the scene :D Thanks for all the information and helping with so many options and informations for new Tractor Owners.

The problem with leaning forward or standing to see the forks unless you put your JD in neutral your JD will shut down.

@ProjectsWithPat

4 жыл бұрын

Arthur Jock *don’t* disable the seat safety switch

@arthurjock4179

4 жыл бұрын

Projects with Pat never would only a 2 year old 2038R.

@augustreil

4 жыл бұрын

@@ProjectsWithPat, First thing we do is disable the seat sensor. I know it's not the safest thing, but oh well.

@Cruising200

3 жыл бұрын

@@augustreil same here lol

Have you thought about useing a snow marker for driveways to mark ware the forks are Positioned

Tim here is a great compromise a person can still buy the 36 inch forks for the extra reach just get the pallet fork extensions that slip on and off

@taiditoysandgelblasters5119

4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Brodeur in Australia we call those slippers, and they make a lot of sense especially with shorter forks

That’s a lot of new stihl gear. Is it all for the electric line? If it is I recommend the km131r for your split shaft tools. I have one and it’s a beast for serious work. It’s overkill for grass trimming.

I can definitely see your points...I got 48inch ones for my Massey 1742 and can say there is no need to have forks that can lift 4000 lbs when my break force is only 2190 lbs. At 31.5 inches. Great video

@TractorTimewithTim

4 жыл бұрын

Yea, but you are at least ‘reasonable’ on that size tractor. Those same size forks on a subcompact would leave almost zero payload capacity. Btw, 1742 is a nice machine!

@Robbobshiskabob

4 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim thank you, definitely happy with it. I keep playing with the idea of making a video or two with it just because there are very few with it. Thank you also for all the great content! Always great videos that are entertaining and informative! Looking forward to the next video!

Great video and very instructional, but your cats make it quite entertaining!

I have 42" on my 3025 so I can see the ends of the forks. 48" would be a lot easier to see, but it would make maneuvering in my tight buildings harder. The 42" fork also let's me grab 1000 lbs grain bags by the top 4 handles. I don't think I could do it with 36" without getting out and positioning manually. Forks have been worth their weight in gold on my farm. I can now buy bulk goods, like feed, and easily unload and store them. Plus I don't have to order lift gate service when I buy heavy duty lift wood working tools and other equipment. Mine have paid for themselves in feed, bedding savings and not having to order lift gate services.

So, the 36" forks will lift 70 cats and the 42" will lift 63.75 cats.

Good points, especially the last one. I could use 36" forks for my firewood racks since I have to place them up against the house and the 42" forks are 6" too long. I have to lift the weight at the tips. Now the question is: Where does one get JUST the forks without the frame? Mary and Martha add extra interest to the videos ... and claw marks in Tim's leg.

@TractorTimewithTim

4 жыл бұрын

Artillian.com sells forks only.

I've thought of a video system - a low cost non-installed. Clip/clamp on and use it. Take it back to the shop or home. Use it all day or on the job and it will look forward and backwards on some - use a direction you are using or need the help with.

Great info. The cats are a nice added bonus.

I agree witH you 100%. Great video and explanation Tim.

I wonder if you could adapt an excavator bucket or mesquite tree "digger" onto the Artillian frame? I use a closed Danuser Intimidator for similar tasks (the teeth allow it to be used to saw through roots). Basically, a backhoe bucket covered in teeth pointed away from the tractor instead of into it like a normal backhoe.

Thank you! Excellent info.

I have seen big-rigs with a mirror at the front of the hood to see in front. I wonder if you could do the same the tractor to help see the forks.

One of my sons had a summer job driving fork lift. Another coworker poked the 48" forks through the pole building wall while loading a pallet.

Even in a big pay loader you still can’t see your forks when low and trying to get into a pallet . The trick I’ve learned is just roll your forks back so you can see them and go fo it. Lol. Great videos Tim.

I have a long set and short set I use all 4 for moving brush. Granted I don't have a subcompact tractor either.

Nice job Tim. I always enjoy your perspective on the topics you present. I’ve notice in my 4 series with a cab, it’s really tough to see the forks even with 42 inch, I was wondering about a camera system..perhaps one that could be moved to the back as well to be able to see a 3 point stump grinder? Mmmm? Any ideas?

@TractorTimewithTim

4 жыл бұрын

Have one on Johnny 5 for just that purpose. Need to do a dedicated video on it!

@timsawyer7443

4 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim have you ever done that video on the camera system for the 3 point stump grinder? If so, I haven't seen it, and I'd be VERY interested in it!

Hey Tim, love your videos. Looking at getting some Forks for my 4 series and wondering if you still recommend the shorter length. Since the loader goes so much higher then a 1 series, I think a few of the points would not apply anymore. Let me know, thanks!

@TractorTimewithTim

4 жыл бұрын

42’s would be fine for a 4 series. Look at your lift capacity. You might need 4 inch forks.

great explanation thanks

Good info. Your cats had me rofl 😂

I've had 36" forks for nearly 2 1/2 years. Haven't wished they were longer yet, but have been glad they were short a few times due to the better maneuverability.

You made good points, thanks for sharing your time and thoughts with all of us. :-)

@TractorTimewithTim

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

The cats were a nice touch. It's like you have them trained to come on camera

man, wish this video came out a few months ago, but oh well. I have 42" and they are good but storage and maneuverability is somewhat compromised with my 42" sort of wish I had gotten the 36"'s

Tim, if you want something short for digging you need to try the Artillian Front-Hoe Bucket. I think it works great.

@wildbill23c

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't see digging with a pallet fork as a very good idea, great way to bend forks.

Love the cats Tim, have 2 myself both are rescues. Yes both are my personal pests, lol

@Tractortimewithtim, when you lean up off seat to view forks, do you have to shift to neutral on 1025R? Or is there a way to leave tractor in L or H & get off seat?

Great video!

Tim, very helpful video. I notice you have the 3000 pound pallet frame and not the 2300 one, which is lighter. Is that also reason no. 8 to go with 36 inch and not 42? More capability from the frame and 2 inch hitch . . .

@TractorTimewithTim

4 жыл бұрын

I have both 2300 and 3000. If no need for 2 inch receiver, stick with 2300.

I just ordered a set of 30 inch forks for my Mahindra Max 24 sub compact. Glad I didn't go to a bigger set, as I usually think bigger is better. lol :)

I enjoy your videos a lot, Tim. Where can I find the shorter forks? I have quick-connect bucket but not John Deere

@TractorTimewithTim

4 жыл бұрын

artillian.com they have ssqa forks as well.

Those cats😂every video, they gotta make sure they get their camera time huh? Lol