Palladium and silver from capacitors - the WET process

Ғылым және технология

Pd and Ag recovery from Bg brown multi-layer ceramic capacitors using hydrometallurgy.
#palladiumrecovery #MLCCs

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  • @tawnihaynie1065
    @tawnihaynie1065 Жыл бұрын

    Hi. Thank you for your teachings. Please take care and stay safe.

  • @jamisontaylor878
    @jamisontaylor878 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video thank you!!! One of my favorite channels

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @rabanitube3391

    @rabanitube3391

    Жыл бұрын

    Video yg bagus

  • @readoryx373
    @readoryx3735 ай бұрын

    Most thorough, skilled. What a teacher

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @scrappydoo7887
    @scrappydoo7887 Жыл бұрын

    That's an excellent job 👍

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @1lt3r
    @1lt3r Жыл бұрын

    Awesome ❤️❤️❤️💯💯 Greetings from Bulgaria

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you 🙌

  • @OnsloVest
    @OnsloVest Жыл бұрын

    Nice process, cheers mate

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @michaelkoonce3909
    @michaelkoonce3909 Жыл бұрын

    awesome and thanks

  • @whateversmurfette
    @whateversmurfette Жыл бұрын

    :) nice. i still haven't processed my brown OR blue capacitors..saving them for a rainy day but i think i might get them done soon just in case the prices here in the US spike back up.

  • @zafarazmi7599
    @zafarazmi7599 Жыл бұрын

    Thousand times thanks 💞

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome 😊

  • @Vicsonvee
    @Vicsonvee Жыл бұрын

    Gonna try it tomorrow for sure

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Good let me know how it goes

  • @julianalcorso5703
    @julianalcorso5703 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Owl, Another great vid. Mate, I wonder if I can ask you to do an experiment. My new lab is not ready yet and I have been wanting to try the following. Strip completely 6 - 10 motherboards with an air chisel or hammer and chisel, and do a rough sort to remove aluminum capacitors and other obvious junk. Then either incinerate and crush or boil in hot H2SO4, remove any magnetic materials, then boil in HCL + Some citric to remove tin. Then dissolve all metals other than gold in hot HNO3. Recover Ag (and then any Pd) then recover Au with Aqua Regia. My theory is that sorting components (if not making a video) is a waste of time and that nearly everything can be recovered by simply incinerating, grinding and recovering. As you are one of the few refiners on KZread who understands the chemistry so I thought you might be up for the challenge,🙂

  • @battleshippotemkin560
    @battleshippotemkin560 Жыл бұрын

    Как по мне- хороший метод, соляная кислота для удаления выводов и остатков припоя, борная -плавень и понижает температуру плавления керамики.

  • @reshdarkoshur
    @reshdarkoshur Жыл бұрын

    thanks for sharing

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @jonathanlawrie552
    @jonathanlawrie552 Жыл бұрын

    Keep the videos coming owltech 💪

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Will do!

  • @CARLOSCESPEDESbiocihealth
    @CARLOSCESPEDESbiocihealth Жыл бұрын

    Good job

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @johntherrian5365
    @johntherrian5365 Жыл бұрын

    Good shit Owl.

  • @saefudinsuhri1709
    @saefudinsuhri1709 Жыл бұрын

    thenk you

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you too!

  • @user-vw4wl8kk2f
    @user-vw4wl8kk2f Жыл бұрын

    Спасибо за мокрый метод!🙂Выход!!!👍👍👍

  • @mbykhanov
    @mbykhanov Жыл бұрын

    Hi, did you perform tin chloride test on HCl?

  • @mahmmud980
    @mahmmud980 Жыл бұрын

    Goooooooood

  • @BohumilGraman
    @BohumilGraman Жыл бұрын

    nice :)

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @colonialcharlie8702
    @colonialcharlie8702 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like the sodium hydroxide is a bit cleaner process than ashing these type of capacitors. Thanks for showing! I have a nice stockpile of these older caps. Id like to use the lye to strip a few other ones that look like they may be pd/ag type mlcc inside.

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    NaOH works on the clay coated MLCCs, for the plastic ones you'll need H2SO4

  • @razor1983

    @razor1983

    Жыл бұрын

    I am trying right now the NaOH method on some blue ones and I think they are plastic. I have been soaking them for 2 hours and nothing is happening. I will try to wash them and then add H2so4 and see if thar works

  • @razor1983

    @razor1983

    Жыл бұрын

    One more thing if I'm not to nosy. How can you tell when the acid is saturated? Thank you once more for sharing with us!

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    @@razor1983 hot H2SO4 will, but on some of them only flame helps

  • @razor1983

    @razor1983

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! So ashing and than continue from step 2.

  • @alexhsabro2028
    @alexhsabro2028 Жыл бұрын

    Отличный выход.

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Спасибо!

  • @BramMono-oe9jx

    @BramMono-oe9jx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 guru mau tanya:palladium apa bisa larut dengan proses basa pakai sianida?

  • @user-ln3bx6wn8o
    @user-ln3bx6wn8o3 ай бұрын

    روعه فيديو رائع

  • @ourodolixo-e
    @ourodolixo-e Жыл бұрын

    Nice bro 🧑‍🔬👍👏👏👏🇧🇷

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @ourodolixo-e

    @ourodolixo-e

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 excellent extraction technique, it is much easier to recover and purify palladium.

  • @TheDurdane
    @TheDurdane Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I havent seen a good non-smd MLCC refineproces yet! Why are you using boric acid instead of borax?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Works better on lowering the melting point of barrium titanate

  • @theaussienurseflipper.8113
    @theaussienurseflipper.8113 Жыл бұрын

    Where do you get these capacities from cheers

  • @Juragan99815
    @Juragan99815 Жыл бұрын

    Nicee

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @hasantokgoz3069
    @hasantokgoz3069 Жыл бұрын

    Sağol kardeşim kolay gelsin sana

  • @matthewmartinez1091
    @matthewmartinez10915 ай бұрын

    From my understanding brother something that is highly caustic to boiling can desovle metals too. Boiling in HCL will remove base metals but tin should be clear now purple colloidal gold is purple and also from my understanding there's supposes to be small amounts of gold in MLCCs.

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    5 ай бұрын

    no gold in this mlccs, you can find gold on the surface mount mlccs wich is leached from the pcb by the solder

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    5 ай бұрын

    the puprle colour is from titanium salts formed from the dissolution of the ceramic substrate - barium titanate

  • @matthewmartinez1091

    @matthewmartinez1091

    5 ай бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 but I have seen a video where they refine Metals with caustic soda so you probably did lose some metals their brother.

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    5 ай бұрын

    Not with this process and caustic is used only to remove the coating

  • @2001pulsar
    @2001pulsar Жыл бұрын

    Why do you melt the foils instead of dissolving directly in nitric?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    To eliminate the last trace of ceramics filtration of which is a nightmare

  • @55goldrecovery61
    @55goldrecovery61 Жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @MiguelSierra
    @MiguelSierra Жыл бұрын

    Excelente.

  • @didiksantoso7391
    @didiksantoso7391 Жыл бұрын

    This channel my favorite... excellent...i'am from Indonesian...👍🙏🏻

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @vipsantorini6997
    @vipsantorini6997 Жыл бұрын

    May i ask how you remove the slag from the alloy using HCl since it had Ag in it?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    the slag does not contain Ag, the alloy does. With the prolonged boiling HCl I removed the borax glass not the silver from the alloy

  • @razor1983
    @razor1983 Жыл бұрын

    Do all these steps apply for the russian capacitors? Thank you

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, the process is exactly the same

  • @alexisgodoy1396
    @alexisgodoy1396 Жыл бұрын

    Hello greetings from Argentina, I'm new to your channel and I really like your content I would like you to explain which capacitors have palladium 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @jeffreystewart8726

    @jeffreystewart8726

    Жыл бұрын

    Several kinds

  • @toomuchdebt5669

    @toomuchdebt5669

    Жыл бұрын

    Ceramic disk capacitors and MLCCs.

  • @RobertERider
    @RobertERider8 ай бұрын

    What's this soundtrack? Who is the producer? JAMS!

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    8 ай бұрын

    on.soundcloud.com/YtYRh

  • @rabanitube3391
    @rabanitube3391 Жыл бұрын

    Video yg bagus

  • @alfredweaver5390
    @alfredweaver5390Ай бұрын

    Is there a chart showing what pgm’s are in different colored ceramic capacitors?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Ай бұрын

    Unfortunately no…

  • @fredericosilva2036
    @fredericosilva2036 Жыл бұрын

    Esse maçarico é o fogo normal ou tem gas

  • @ap.h.y.m4942
    @ap.h.y.m4942 Жыл бұрын

    If I have acid containing copper and palladium, how do I separate the copper from the palladium?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Refining Palladium, Gold and Silver alloyed with Tin, Lead and Copper kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZqBpKp6qZuXlbw.html

  • @fredericosilva2036
    @fredericosilva2036 Жыл бұрын

    Esse que vc coloco qual produto

  • @user-nw9vg6ky8r
    @user-nw9vg6ky8r Жыл бұрын

    مرحبا اخي اشكرك عمل رائع لماذا لم تحرق المكثفات وبعدها تعمل بل الاحماض

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    11 ай бұрын

    I wanted to show another method

  • @escrapchannel
    @escrapchannel Жыл бұрын

    Hi, may I ask you to check the hydrochloric acid solution for palladium, please. In presence of oxygen (air) palladium is dissolving in hydrochloric acid. Thank you for the great video! 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 👍

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    I kept all washing acids and added aluminium foil to them, only copper precipitated

  • @escrapchannel

    @escrapchannel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 That’s strange …

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    @@escrapchannel it did cross my mind that if it dissolves the copper legs it will be dissolving the Pd too but...

  • @escrapchannel

    @escrapchannel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 The point is that I gave up from this process as I was finding Pd in the hydrochloric acid. Interesting .. I will do some experiments this weekend. Thank you!

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    @@escrapchannel diluted or concentrated HCl you were using? If you want to be 100% sure it won't touch the Pd you should use nickel chloride solution under reflux to dissolve the ceramics

  • @tinsoffish1810
    @tinsoffish1810 Жыл бұрын

    Is the boric acid a flux?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    yup. lowers the melting point of barium titanete

  • @blackcrow6110
    @blackcrow6110 Жыл бұрын

    Почему добавили борную кислоту?

  • @bymancini1
    @bymancini1 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video! I have a doubt, why the hydrochloric acid solution is so violet or dark blue, it seems to me that it contains palladium with the copper. Thank you very much

  • @jonathanlawrie552

    @jonathanlawrie552

    Жыл бұрын

    Nickle in solution

  • @DorsetMushroomHunter

    @DorsetMushroomHunter

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@jonathanlawrie552Nickle in solution is green

  • @jonathanlawrie552

    @jonathanlawrie552

    10 ай бұрын

    @@DorsetMushroomHunter lol

  • @shelbysgarage5828

    @shelbysgarage5828

    7 ай бұрын

    It's 100% nickle I'm solution

  • @ilmulogamdantehnikpelogama9569
    @ilmulogamdantehnikpelogama9569 Жыл бұрын

    Sir, why don't you use battery water that is stepped on with HNO3 sir?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    yes 50:50 water to HCl

  • @ilmulogamdantehnikpelogama9569

    @ilmulogamdantehnikpelogama9569

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 Thank you sir

  • @ilmulogamdantehnikpelogama9569

    @ilmulogamdantehnikpelogama9569

    Жыл бұрын

    Sir why not use h2so4 + hno3 sir

  • @cuetTimmonz
    @cuetTimmonz5 ай бұрын

    can we use vinegar and salt?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes - to season your salad, not in this particular process

  • @fredericosilva2036
    @fredericosilva2036 Жыл бұрын

    Em vc está colocando ele pra ferver

  • @ilmarzeiger729
    @ilmarzeiger729 Жыл бұрын

    👍🤗👍

  • @ap.h.y.m4942
    @ap.h.y.m4942 Жыл бұрын

    What are the ways to separate palladium from copper?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZqBpKp6qZuXlbw.html

  • @ap.h.y.m4942

    @ap.h.y.m4942

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 Thank you very much. Yes, I saw it before on your channel as well as now, but if I do not have sulfamic acid in order to get rid of lead, can I use only concentrated sulfuric acid

  • @SocratePrimusSapiens
    @SocratePrimusSapiens Жыл бұрын

    Heya ! Another method for recovery which will be of great interest for those who don't have furnace at home ! It takes a long time to get rid of base metals using HCL but... It's the costless method of all ! Anyway, i must ask you about your last video for bga caps and the problem of gold yeld. Did you recover more gold or did you bought bad materials ( Some bga caps do not contain any gold instead of their "gold corner indication".) Thanks for sharing your work and wish you a good summer time.

  • @colonialcharlie8702

    @colonialcharlie8702

    Жыл бұрын

    I think mostly missing gold was caused by the amount of copper heat sink bgas. The yeild estimates are likely more accurate if they are sorted. The batch seemed to be mostly the heat sink ones. 1kg heat sink bgas will likely be similar yeild to less than 1/5th kg regular/gold corner bgas

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    I think I've been given predominantly copper wire chips but anyway I keep all my slags so there will be a big remelt someday

  • @kamelsamer5768

    @kamelsamer5768

    Жыл бұрын

    @@colonialcharlie8702 what do you mean by "missing gold"? Why are all gold recoveryists complaining about missing or lost gold? Could someone please explain how gold is lost?

  • @colonialcharlie8702

    @colonialcharlie8702

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kamelsamer5768 the estimate for gold per kilogram is for either mixed bgas with some copper heat sync ones. (This was soo many if i recall) Or for no copper heat sink ones. The heat syncs are very heavy and skew the estimated gold recovery. Just something to keep in mind for those who may purchase or bid based apon an estimate they read.

  • @hasantokgoz3069
    @hasantokgoz3069 Жыл бұрын

    Kardeşim bu palladyumu nittrik i hitrokirolitasit yapsak olurmu çökertme Hitrazinhitrat yapsak olurmu kardeşim kolay gelsin sana teşekürler çok çok çok sağol kardeşim

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Kardeşim bu palladyumu nittrik i hitrokirolitasit yapsak olurmu çökertme Hitrazinhitrat yapsak olurmu kardeşim kolay gelsin sana teşekürler çok çok çok sağol kardeşim

  • @readoryx373
    @readoryx3735 ай бұрын

    My intuitive ignorance begs me to ask why not perform the chemical separation before melting? The cost of nitric acid would be my first guess

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    5 ай бұрын

    this one was for sale and I have no market for pure palladium so there was no financial reason to refine it and since I have other videos on the refining process (and more to post ) I decided to cash in the alloy…

  • @readoryx373

    @readoryx373

    5 ай бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 a silver cell perhaps. I feel you in the southern border area and found a jewelry store in ABQ that has an XRF and has purchased from me

  • @user-we7dw5ox6s
    @user-we7dw5ox6s Жыл бұрын

    👀👍

  • @antonvlogs2105
    @antonvlogs2105 Жыл бұрын

    Very hard to get pure palladium.

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Very easy actually, haven’t uploaded the video yet

  • @clubsoda85cook55
    @clubsoda85cook55 Жыл бұрын

    I would be interested in purchasing 500mls of your gold recovery waste liquid..

  • @alligator8811
    @alligator8811 Жыл бұрын

    Приветствую. А от медных ножек как избавились?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Солянком, тоже не поверил, когда керамика растворилась ножки там не было, а из раствор удалилась медь после добавления алюминия

  • @user-ln3bx6wn8o
    @user-ln3bx6wn8o3 ай бұрын

    سلام عليكم اخي العزيز عندي بوردات موبايل ٣٠٠٠ كيلو كم يستخرج من عندهن ذهب او بلاديوم

  • @dizzious
    @dizzious Жыл бұрын

    It seems too easy! Just boiling in HCl to remove ceramic? No Nitric acid required? Incredible.

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes this is a recovery process only, refining is another story

  • @dizzious

    @dizzious

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 true, but it's so much less work than pyrometallurgy and cupellation

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@dizzious only seems this way, with pyrometallurgy this whole day of boiling could have been squeezed down to an hour tops

  • @tamoneki7854
    @tamoneki7854 Жыл бұрын

    Svaka cast! Znanje, volja i velika energija! Rentabilnost??! 😱🤢🤮

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    zadovoljan

  • @whatwill1812
    @whatwill1812 Жыл бұрын

    Ooyy

  • @dmitrysarkisov6117
    @dmitrysarkisov6117 Жыл бұрын

    Дружище не проще было размалоть в муку

  • @nelsonbran4628
    @nelsonbran4628 Жыл бұрын

    Palladium by Sprott: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m3ykqpquZKm4ms4.html

  • @CarlosRodriguez-uu8sb
    @CarlosRodriguez-uu8sb Жыл бұрын

    Escriban en español ....lo q no entendemos inglés no lo podemos leer y como consecuencia dejamos de verlo

  • @ajingolk7716
    @ajingolk7716 Жыл бұрын

    Sodium hydroxide eat glass😢

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    It turns it into liquid glass

  • @tinsoffish1810
    @tinsoffish1810 Жыл бұрын

    Second

  • @tomspeed2000
    @tomspeed20002 ай бұрын

    Is this process also works with small cubic kind mlcc?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    2 ай бұрын

    I haven’t tried but I don’t see a reason why it shouldn’t

  • @user-ig5ow1kf5j
    @user-ig5ow1kf5j Жыл бұрын

    Вначале насыпали - каустическая сода?

  • @OwlTech333

    @OwlTech333

    Жыл бұрын

    Так точно

  • @BramMono-oe9jx

    @BramMono-oe9jx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OwlTech333 guru mau tanya:palladium larut dengan sianida tdk?