Pale Waves & Pop Culture's 80's Obsession [Re-upload]

This is Pale Waves. They are quickly becoming one of the most interesting and talked about bands of 2018. Earlier this year they were top 5 finalists in BBC's New Sound of 2018. So far in their short careers they have sell out tours, millions of streams and a cultishly loyal fanbase. They could be your next big musical obsession. But here's the thing, Pale Waves are splitting opinions across the board for one simple reason.
Pale Waves are unoriginal. Or at least that's the criticism. That they are just taking the best bits of sad British 80s pop and throwing up uninspired facsimiles. But the other way to look at this is this: Pale Waves are a breath of fresh air, being one of the few guitar-centric acts to breakthrough in the last few years. For those that are keeping track, this is important. But Are Pale Waves Simply A Pale Copy of the 80s?
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New Year's Eve Instrumental Cover - Mysteriousic
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Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now Instrumental Cover - Smiths on Guitar
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  • @djvoid1
    @djvoid15 жыл бұрын

    Band in 1983 - I want it to sound like the future... Band in 2019 - I want it to sound like it was made in 1983

  • @Curegirl0023

    @Curegirl0023

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sing street reference?

  • @manuam98

    @manuam98

    5 жыл бұрын

    So people in 1983 actually predicted the future

  • @overzhitz

    @overzhitz

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually the 50s greaser aestethic was also pretty big in the 80s.

  • @brandonpage7087

    @brandonpage7087

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmao, well djvoid1, back then we were hopeful for the future, & had no idea just how incredibly disappointing & shitty the future was gonna turn out to be, lol.

  • @theguynamedgio

    @theguynamedgio

    4 жыл бұрын

    i want it to sound like it was made in 1983..except time aligned and less interesting

  • @goblinzaku6211
    @goblinzaku62115 жыл бұрын

    This is what people THINK music sounded like in the 80s, not what the majority of music actually sounded like.

  • @jimmypadilla3441

    @jimmypadilla3441

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably gonna keep going til everyone thinks 80s music sounds like Oneohtrix Point Never

  • @josephmayfield945

    @josephmayfield945

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know. I hear this, and I'm like, "this doesnt sound like a single damn song form that era!"

  • @AS-ur2lw

    @AS-ur2lw

    3 жыл бұрын

    well said! it really doesnt sound 80s in the least. not even the poppier aspect of 80s music

  • @josephmayfield945

    @josephmayfield945

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@disarray5136 the only inspiration is to try and steal a look, and try to cash in on a resurgence of a sound, while not actually doing anything daring or inspiring; just cowardly making corporate over produced wank.

  • @barrypops7499

    @barrypops7499

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@josephmayfield945 at one point they were accused as industry plants because they just sound so bleh.

  • @muiscnight
    @muiscnight5 жыл бұрын

    The 00s: "Hey the 80s is back!" The 10s: "Hey the 80s is back!"

  • @noughiphiet

    @noughiphiet

    5 жыл бұрын

    yeah i noticed that too.. and I don't even mind.

  • @brandonpage7087

    @brandonpage7087

    4 жыл бұрын

    Memory Lane, wrong again. There was lots of 80s nostalgia in the 2000s. Anybody remember VH1's I Love the 80s series? I think that series was what first started this whole 80s nostalgia craze, which I'm proud to be a part of. Remember though, that the 50s nostalgia craze lasted for several decades, so why can't the 80s do it too??

  • @brandonpage7087

    @brandonpage7087

    4 жыл бұрын

    Memory Lane, yeah, that's about it! Lol, other than those musical revivals, there was 0 evidence of any kind of a 70s craze, in the 2000s. The 80s craze started in the 2000s, & it's still going on today. Anybody remember the 2003 hit, Stacy's Mom has got it going on, that contained an 80s reference in the video, with the parody of the famous masturbation scene from Fast Times at Ridgemont High. This was no doubt inspired by the popularity & success of the I Love the 80s series, the most successful of all of the I Love series. There was also an I Love the 70s & I l Love the 90s series, released in the 90s, but both of those were nowhere near as popular & successful as the 80s version. Just face it, the 80s nostalgia craze started in the 2000s. Like I said, there's certainly nothing bad about that.

  • @pearlspacejam8639

    @pearlspacejam8639

    3 жыл бұрын

    The 2000’s and 2010’s were a pop culture package deal

  • @j0an-07-arc6

    @j0an-07-arc6

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonpage7087 born in 2004 I grew up with vhs and many other stuff from the 80s be it movies songs bands tv shows and daily things from back then

  • @LittleMissEmoGurl
    @LittleMissEmoGurl5 жыл бұрын

    I want to like them but all their songs sound so similar

  • @stanconnorstan4266

    @stanconnorstan4266

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean it's called musical cohesion. They've only released one album so far, and it's one of the most specific and cohesive albums I've heard for a while. The album is all about Heather's repeated run-ins with old lovers and her own mental state when she was only 18-19. The band is young and their influences are very obvious, they just need time to develop their sound. If you think of the album as a collection of songs that all have a similar vibe, like a emotional concept album, then it's much more enjoyable too. The whole album is very story oriented and paying a lot more attention to the lyrics improves the experience a lot.

  • @LittleMissEmoGurl

    @LittleMissEmoGurl

    5 жыл бұрын

    i love all music on the inside that's cool but I feel like if you played all their songs on top of each other there would be hardly any different. Compare to something like Daft Punk's albums for example where they're cohesive albums with a running theme but the songs are still distinctive. Just my five penneth worth 🤷‍♀️

  • @daxthecatofwales4645

    @daxthecatofwales4645

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stanconnorstan4266 its nice to see ur comment among this sea of Pale Wave haters loll

  • @lilpercoskett

    @lilpercoskett

    3 жыл бұрын

    Their songs just sound like The 1975 throwaway songs tbh

  • @somekindofdude1130

    @somekindofdude1130

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lilpercoskett yes

  • @ziggypha
    @ziggypha2 жыл бұрын

    I come back to this video essay every now and then. I find this recycling of trends/eras interesting. I saw the revival of the 80s in my teens during the mid-2010s, and now in my 20s I'm starting to see the revival of the 2000s. Interesting stuff! Great analysis!

  • @hypnossomnus8182
    @hypnossomnus81825 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering what happend to this video , thank you for the reupload

  • @atomicbarbarian7372
    @atomicbarbarian73725 жыл бұрын

    Every generation does this. In the 90s, grunge basically lifted 70s hard rock and tinged it with a bit of punk. You can't call it unoriginal.

  • @ediesongbird3163

    @ediesongbird3163

    5 жыл бұрын

    Atomic Barbarian but they had original aspects too I'm not sure I see that much here

  • @thebasedgodmax1163

    @thebasedgodmax1163

    5 жыл бұрын

    i'm pretty sure most grunge bands were against all that 70s dad rock garbage

  • @rushxanthemtcg5607

    @rushxanthemtcg5607

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thebasedgodmax1163 they sure fuckin weren't. They were against 80s glam metal if anything.

  • @themangoman9315

    @themangoman9315

    2 жыл бұрын

    Art is inherently transformative everything is taking inspiration from something else

  • @Eyeupthebison

    @Eyeupthebison

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ediesongbird3163 teen spirit literally straight up stole the drum pattern from a disco song that Shit would never fly in todays music landscape Music is harder to take influence from because everything can be found and tracked Before if kurt steals a style from the pixies its fine because not everyone knows the pixies Today if i steal form the pixies i get called a copycat because we have the records and anyone can go hear Just look at good for you and misery business One is clearly influenced But then look at broken belouvard of dreams by green day Its almost the exact same as good for you except it doesn't use double time drums

  • @SunFlower-jo2vn
    @SunFlower-jo2vn5 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video about Talk Talk? a tribute to Mark Hollis who recently passed away? He's one of my favorite artist and is criminally underrated..

  • @hypnodrive8473
    @hypnodrive84735 жыл бұрын

    Never heard of Pale Waves before. Listened to Television Romance and all I hear is an updated Haim. The thing is that they don't even sound like an 80's band. They sound like a pale band from the 10s. Someone on the comments here traced a paralel to Avril Lavigne and that couldn't be more accurate. Just listened to other songs from them and, well, it is pretty boring... I don't think the issue with this particular band is that they are a carbon copy of the 80's sound (which they are not). The issue is that it is mediocre. It's far from a breath of fresh air. More like recycled air from the late 00's. It's exactly the sound of this nostalgia wave. We even had better stuff from the 00s, like Interpol's first album (pure Joy Division aesthetic) or even Franz Ferdinand and their artsy Gang of Four style, which you could apply the same arguments. A good band is not defined by their influences, it should be the starting point, not the other way around.

  • @hypnodrive8473

    @hypnodrive8473

    5 жыл бұрын

    But, just to be clear, I enjoyed the video for it's arguments, I just don't agree with it.

  • @brandonpage7087

    @brandonpage7087

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can definitely hear the 80s influence in their music.

  • @brandonalexander7195
    @brandonalexander71955 жыл бұрын

    loll I searched this video 3 days ago and couldn't find it! glad you re-uploaded

  • @dumbmusorowan
    @dumbmusorowan5 жыл бұрын

    i don't like pale waves, not because they sound unoriginal, but because they sound bland and annoying. they don't sound like the cure or cocteau twins or the smiths much at all imo, they sound like a more boring the 1975.

  • @lisazoria2709

    @lisazoria2709

    5 жыл бұрын

    Right?! I don't get those comparisons either, I'm certainly not hearing it. I guess if I'm being really generous they could sound vaguely 80's but more in a Kim Wilde sense. Idk, but not quite the Cure, even Robert Smith at his poppiest had more feeling and texture to his music than this band. I feel like this band is perfect for Taylor Swift fans who want an excuse to wear black. Bland is really the perfect word for them IMO.

  • @TheGhostPanel

    @TheGhostPanel

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree. They're just standard inoffensive normie-rock.

  • @danfred7127

    @danfred7127

    5 жыл бұрын

    To me, they sound inauthentic. After reading "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" a few years ago, I sometimes think of music in the context of "is this authentic? Is there quality here?" They don't have it. Rap music has summed up the whole idea as being "real". How many rappers have you heard telling you how "real" they are? It's the same exact idea, worded differently. It's an intangible quality, but if you apply it to any era, whether Nirvana or 2pac or 50 cent and Rick Ross, you start to see how ever present it all is.

  • @k_a_y_l_e_e

    @k_a_y_l_e_e

    5 жыл бұрын

    exactly.

  • @k_a_y_l_e_e

    @k_a_y_l_e_e

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lisazoria2709 yeesssssssssssss

  • @christinathemeli360
    @christinathemeli3605 жыл бұрын

    (totally off topic) But I reckon a video about Neutral Milk Hotel would go down a storm.

  • @djstarsign
    @djstarsign5 жыл бұрын

    They sound like they’re more influenced by middle of the road mid 80s Genesis, Belinda Carlisle, Paula Abdul, Taylor Swift and Katy Perry produced by someone who heard New Order’s “Regret” while shopping at a Target once and Shazamed it but never bothered to listen to their other work. Before listening to their stuff (this video randomly popped up and I’d never heard of this band) I was expecting something darker, edgier, more interesting sounding. This is what I assume Ashley Simpson would sound like if I listened to it.

  • @DefThrone
    @DefThrone5 жыл бұрын

    Goth Greta Van Fleet. I don't get it that you have guitar centric bands like "King Gizzard" and "The Drones/Tropical Fuck Storm" actually creating unique sounding music, and people are saying that Greta Van Fleet and Pale Waves are a breath of fresh air. Meanwhile bands like Deafheaven get called Godspeed You Black Emperor ripoffs when in reality they've just taken elements from many wells of inspiration and come out with a unique sound. Even bands that aren't necessarily doing anything wholly original like Royal Blood and Highly Suspect still make for interesting sounding radio rock. Pale Waves and Greta Van Fleet sound like cover bands with none of the favorite songs from the band they're supposed to be covering.

  • @AnalogueDad

    @AnalogueDad

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ok, calm down music snob

  • @DefThrone

    @DefThrone

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AnalogueDad Bro Im chill. Youre mad.

  • @HunterLyonIsAPerson
    @HunterLyonIsAPerson5 жыл бұрын

    "Call Me Maybe' was mixed by Skinny Puppy's Rave. Fun fact.

  • @DeadAngel14

    @DeadAngel14

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh

  • @johnsummers9660

    @johnsummers9660

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love this! You gotta make a living somehow. It's also impossible to lose any credibility when you're associated with Skinny Puppy or Pigface. That's street cred for life.

  • @peterszegedi
    @peterszegedi5 жыл бұрын

    I've listened 'Television Romance' and 'Noises' can't really hear the 80's sound really, a bit of The Cure style guitar in Noises but that's all. What I hear is early 2000's boiled down Avril Lavigne kinda pop rock with some acoustic elevation (like U2's Pop and every stadium rock band after that) However in the visuals you can see some 80's asthetics but it's everywhere now. But honestly (as Avril) I don't really find this kind of music very appealing or interesting.

  • @darkwave9345

    @darkwave9345

    5 жыл бұрын

    then you know nothing of good music

  • @peterszegedi

    @peterszegedi

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@darkwave9345 I think what is 'good' for you is highly subjective. Technically Pale Waves is good. They know their craft and create an atmosphere that a lot of people like. The point of my comment was that I can't really find the 80's aesthetic in their music that much. I even like nostalgia styles like synthwave, stoner rock, new wave or post punk revival and they heavily rely on the 80's style. I would recommend you to listen to bands like Churches (more on the new wave revival side) or if you are a bit more rock oriented All Them Witches (psychedelic folk / stoner rock), or War on Drugs (Dire Straits and Bob Dylan vibes).

  • @ziweiyuan

    @ziweiyuan

    5 жыл бұрын

    When you say you don't hear the 80's sound which bit of the 80's do you mean? The aesthetic of the early 80's was different from the mid 80's, and vastly different from the late 80's. When most people talk about 80's music they mean the New Wave / New Romantic eras, which were all but over by 1985, replaced by a more commercial rock sound. The mid 80's were the era of Huey Lewis, Mr. Mister, The Outfield, and MIke + the Mechanics. Pales Waves fit that mid 80's mold extremely well. I could easily imagine "Television Romance" or "The Tide" cropping up on the radio in 1985, perhaps on a drive-home block between Til Tuesday and Scritti Politti.

  • @peterszegedi

    @peterszegedi

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ziweiyuan When I say 80's sound I mean the synthesizers and guitar amps, the mixing, the way that the lead singer sings etc. There are bands that use the same 10-15 sounds that were very distinct in the era. Pale Waves for example used the same guitar amp that The Cure used a lot in Noises. But besides that, these sounds and mixing technics were more common in early 2000's and because of that evoking that feeling for me. There is a big use in original 80's sounds in synth-wave or post punk revival or indie bands like The War on Drugs or White Lies who extensively use these particular tools to recreate 80's moods. For me Pale Waves not really.

  • @humanrays

    @humanrays

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@darkwave9345 Going to pretend I didn't read this comment. Yep. I just don't want to believe people like this exist.

  • @joebowles06
    @joebowles065 жыл бұрын

    I'm not familiar with Pale Waves, but I do think that it's kind of great if they influence young kids who are just getting into music to check out some of the greats from the late 70's and early 80's. I was born in 88 and really only knew about 80's pop music and the hair bands up until a few years ago. My dad was into music, but always told me that the 80's sucked, and I took his word for it. He did listen to the Cure, Talking Heads and a few others who were big during that era, but I was late into my twenties before I ever discovered bands like Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Wire, Killing Joke, and dozens and amazing bands from that era. These post-punk, goth and early alternative bands were so exciting to me because I finally found where some of the bands I grew up with in the 90's and 2000's got their influence from. It's been years since I've dove into this era, but I'm still finding things that I never knew about.

  • @connorlennox1485
    @connorlennox14855 жыл бұрын

    My criticism of pale waves isn't that they are unoriginal because I agree with this videos analysis My criticism is that they are repetitive. Like seriously all of their songs sound basically the same and follow the same exact format and it gets hard to binge listen to their songs

  • @joshpriest9271

    @joshpriest9271

    4 жыл бұрын

    Connor Lennox that’s true like the song red and television romance Courses sound the same

  • @stephaniexu3576

    @stephaniexu3576

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joshpriest9271 nah it's television romance and there's a honey that have the same chorus melody

  • @johnsummers9660
    @johnsummers96605 жыл бұрын

    One of the few things I'm jealous of is the ready availability of music now as compared what was around when I was younger. If you didn't have a good local indie record store you had to hope the person ordering the music for your "big box" music store had good taste. I was lucky in that regard but there was so much good music I missed simply because it wasn't available. I'm glad the younger generations can find all the good shit I grew up with and appreciate it enough to let it influence them. Even if you don't like Pale Waves, there's another band out there with the same influences that you will like. You just have to look for them.

  • @LiquidDIO
    @LiquidDIO4 жыл бұрын

    Thing is, retrowave has been bringing synth rock and pop back long before these bands hit. The Midnight, FM-84's work with Ollie Wride, Trevor Something, Mecha Maiko, W O L F, etc, have all been spearheading a lot of this movement via NRW for years now.

  • @igeeniez
    @igeeniez5 жыл бұрын

    imo the issue of pw is that their songs sound super similar to each other unlike other artists who bring this “80s sound” in multiple forms and styles

  • @paulthomas1992

    @paulthomas1992

    2 жыл бұрын

    For their early stuff, I think this is a fair criticism, although I think it largely has to do with how fast they blew up and the pressure that was put on them to crank out "There's a Honey"- or "Television Romance"-esque hits. Imho, "Who Am I?" was a great step in the right direction; you can tell they're getting their sea legs. That said, they've also really jettisoned that 80s sound that garnered them so much attention in the first place.

  • @khogg3581
    @khogg35813 жыл бұрын

    As some one who spent their time in the 80s being a naïve teenager, finding their way in life, I don’t mind this musical phenomenon at all.

  • @euronysus8453
    @euronysus84535 жыл бұрын

    Rip Andy Anderson

  • @boogkitty
    @boogkitty2 жыл бұрын

    As much as they might be unoriginal, I do really like a lot of these newer Coldwave sort of bands. It's nice to hear a newer sound with heavy 80s influence.

  • @SaharatOfficial
    @SaharatOfficial5 жыл бұрын

    I kinda love this updated version lol. This is edited differently isn't it? Lol

  • @artblack01
    @artblack015 жыл бұрын

    This is just pop music wearing Goth clothing and doesn't audibly resemble ANY of the 80's bands you mentioned. I should know, I grew up with it and none of this sounds appealing. There are other bands that are closer to that description than this band.

  • @pineapplejester7191

    @pineapplejester7191

    4 жыл бұрын

    what bands

  • @j-skullz

    @j-skullz

    2 жыл бұрын

    ok boomer

  • @cpu278
    @cpu2783 жыл бұрын

    2021: who the fuck are the Pale Waves?

  • @daisygriffiths1098
    @daisygriffiths10985 жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen the Pale Waves live, they were a supporting act for the 1975. Really did not enjoy them, couldn’t tell when one song ended and another began.

  • @buddygamesdev

    @buddygamesdev

    4 жыл бұрын

    I saw them with Muse and I loved them personally. Might have been the atmosphere and the fact that Tom morrelo and Muse were still to come, but it was still a very enjoyable show from them

  • @beardpandaa
    @beardpandaa5 жыл бұрын

    Made me upset because I thought I was gonna get bauhaus or the cure or siouxsie and the banshees but i got that quietly in the background sometimes kind of i guess under early 2000s avril lavigne... so i'm butthurt I give them chance after chance but I just don't like it...I saw someone saw it sounded like love will tear us apart and just like heaven and I was like... bitch where????

  • @feyn5869
    @feyn58695 жыл бұрын

    Their debut album is literally just ctrl + c and ctrl = v over and over agian

  • @donniedarkko422
    @donniedarkko4225 жыл бұрын

    Elephants have great memories

  • @DarkturtleX
    @DarkturtleX4 жыл бұрын

    30 years cycle... does that mean that 90s European Electronic Music will be the main focus of the 2020s?

  • @FHL-Devils
    @FHL-Devils3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for figuring out why I have such an affinity for Chvrches! They are a band that I shouldn't like - but I really, really do. And now I get why. There's still only one Pet Shop Boys though... Nobody dares to copy that!

  • @dennisjonsson3606
    @dennisjonsson36065 жыл бұрын

    Gave it a shoot. I want my 15 seconds back

  • @sigmund3023
    @sigmund30235 жыл бұрын

    I’m still waiting for that Smiths video.

  • @thecourrrr
    @thecourrrr5 жыл бұрын

    I mean I feel like the 80s obsession could be trace back to M83's Saturday = Youth which released around 2007-08. That gives around 20 to 25 years after. I think this also true with the revival in shoegazing bands in mid 00s like asobi seksu, a place to bury strangers, the horrors, have a nice life, pain of a pure heart, nothing and Ringo deathstar.

  • @melvinnance5029
    @melvinnance50295 жыл бұрын

    And now for something completely different. I just flat out like your analysis.

  • @katherynemero4118
    @katherynemero41182 жыл бұрын

    Let's be honest: music these days isn't about "music." It's about the look. Pale Waves are plenty attractive enough to develop a huge following regardless of whether they ever make anything that is truly worth listening to. That's what is wrong with the whole pop machine- it's only about being pretty. If enough people think you're "hot," that's all that matters. We've become so shallow that it's truly disgusting. You're never going to find anything "real" in the pop world.

  • @anthonywheeler2082
    @anthonywheeler20825 жыл бұрын

    I've watched this video twice now.._and it's still good :)

  • @inbluem
    @inbluem5 жыл бұрын

    well, they’re not hurting anyone so just let them do whatever they’re doing whether you like them or not. simple.

  • @megmcguigan3857
    @megmcguigan38574 жыл бұрын

    As a person who was a teen in the 80's who listened to a whole lot of post-punk during that time I think all of the modern wannabe 80's post-punk imitators to be really tiring. There are a whole lot of post-punk bands from the 80's whose music has never been reissued since that time. I would rather search out those bands than all of the imitators. I think the modern goth rock and deathrock bands are excellent and are doing many things differently from the 80's but these modern wannabe 80's post-punk bands are just jumping on the 80's nostalgia wagon.

  • @LividImp
    @LividImp5 жыл бұрын

    First I've heard of Pale Waves, but what you played of them does not sound anything like the 80s I grew up in (Los Angeles listening to KROQ and punk). They just sound like bland contemporary pop rock. The singer has the old goth look down perfectly though. She looks just like an old crush I had back in highschool.

  • @Moonroofmusik
    @Moonroofmusik5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @deadlegs187
    @deadlegs1875 жыл бұрын

    A pop group with a banshees veneer

  • @JethroBronner
    @JethroBronner5 жыл бұрын

    I actually looked for this a couple of days ago. Glad it’s back. Just booked tickets to see Pale Waves and The 1975 in April. Can’t wait.

  • @caitlinmcrandle6945

    @caitlinmcrandle6945

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jethro Bronner me and my girlfriend have seen them twice, alone and with the 1975 and they’re unreal!

  • @jimmydroid7838
    @jimmydroid78385 жыл бұрын

    I want bands to sound like Dio and Queensryche again.

  • @thebasedgodmax1163

    @thebasedgodmax1163

    5 жыл бұрын

    so, shit?

  • @francisr8563

    @francisr8563

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sylvie P. We should but some people call that trap music so it’s difficult to know what is meant by ‘original’.

  • @spaztasticdoesntcare8570
    @spaztasticdoesntcare85704 жыл бұрын

    0:08 I know that guitar all to well.

  • @aledhopkins2958
    @aledhopkins29585 жыл бұрын

    Very influenced by the 1975 who were in turn influenced by 80's pop but also the pop of the noughties and 10's. PW are a bit cliché atm but I think they have some catchy tracks, they are still a young band and they will mature as songwriters

  • @bubbadogproductions7403
    @bubbadogproductions74038 ай бұрын

    Being a film maker and having a passion for music, I find the visuals for Pale Waves to be super solid and their sound is widely appealing. Heather has so many different different looks in their videos and she obviously films well, but also can come across with a bit of fun and a subtle sass, as you can see in Kiss, Jealousy, and of course Noises. Great band with one way to go and that's up.

  • @3padr598
    @3padr598 Жыл бұрын

    3 yrs later and this is the first time I’ve heard of them, interesting

  • @peacheguts2483
    @peacheguts24835 жыл бұрын

    What do you think of She Wants Revenge? People say it is less of a homage or callback and more like stealing.

  • @barrypops7499

    @barrypops7499

    3 жыл бұрын

    As much of a hit Tear You Apart is the lyrics don't sound great coming from a monotone listless vocal.

  • @daxthecatofwales4645
    @daxthecatofwales46453 жыл бұрын

    It's kinda annoying how ppl take unoriginal as a complete insult...its music. You would be dumb if by this time u didn't realize music in its heart and root is nothing but passion for another artist who came before them. Music IS unoriginal. And that's what can be so great about it sometimes

  • @noughiphiet
    @noughiphiet5 жыл бұрын

    I am quite fond of this melted resurgence of Goth-industrial-coldwave-dreampop-shoegaze scene we have going on right now.

  • @wettymeister
    @wettymeister5 жыл бұрын

    white zombie's first album was... something, but with time they got a feel of what was the direction they wanted to go for. astro creep blew my ears out!

  • @jrobertlysaght
    @jrobertlysaght4 жыл бұрын

    Check out the Midnight, it's jarring, you'll swear they were from the early 80s and wonder how you never heard them before

  • @mattrobert5
    @mattrobert55 жыл бұрын

    The problem isn't that they're unoriginal. The problem is they're not very good.

  • @francisr8563

    @francisr8563

    5 жыл бұрын

    Some good songs, but nothing awful tbh. The Ninth Wave do this a lot better I think.

  • @pukeyourguts
    @pukeyourguts5 жыл бұрын

    pale waves really aren't that 80s. and - i hate to say it, but - not that good, either. although i kinda dig that song heavenly

  • @paularizer
    @paularizer4 жыл бұрын

    Fickle Friends "Crybaby" is another good example of a new song that sounds like it's from the 80s. There is most definitely some kind of revival of 80s aesthetic, and it definitely has a very strong nostalgic driving force. I like it though.

  • @olpakillwee7383
    @olpakillwee73835 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @lumpyfishgravy
    @lumpyfishgravy5 жыл бұрын

    The 1975 have some 80s influence, mostly texture, not the bits Pale Waves copied. And Chvrches are just like Depeche Mode?! Just no.

  • @giniibb4605
    @giniibb46054 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a vid in Crystal Castles? 🧡✨✨

  • @malikshakur1306
    @malikshakur13065 жыл бұрын

    cant believe matt likes this.

  • @DeadAngel14
    @DeadAngel145 жыл бұрын

    As much as I like their aesthetics, I dislike their music. It's very repetitive, the lead singer voice isn't my cup of tea, and their lyrics let's say they are not the best. However, when compared to nowadays crap it's way better than it. I can also see that they are trying to get better and I really hope that do, but I don't think that I would ever like them. Anyway, thanks for the video, I really liked it :)

  • @bernardshakey1867
    @bernardshakey18675 жыл бұрын

    Do one on sleaford mods

  • @filipsieczkarek1975
    @filipsieczkarek19754 жыл бұрын

    Washed Out is catching the 80's sad guitar sound much better than Pale Waves. No offence, but this is as similiar to the Cure as Tokyo Hotel.

  • @eduardor8437
    @eduardor84374 жыл бұрын

    Now I just want to go and listen to tears for fears

  • @LucyStarQueen
    @LucyStarQueen3 ай бұрын

    My fav band at the moment 💜

  • @ariakitty
    @ariakitty3 жыл бұрын

    Stuff like this is so bittersweet. I'm so glad Pale Waves is getting noticed. But I'm kinda sad that bands like The Birthday Massacre (while very active and with a loyal fanbase) never got the attention that Pale Waves is getting now. I found them in 2005 and it seemed like they were doing the whole 80's/shoegaze/gothy mishmash of sound before anyone else was.

  • @milkcarton6654
    @milkcarton66545 жыл бұрын

    They don't sound 80's to me. Shit, but not 80's. Mainstream music (or culture in fact) idea of 80's is ridiculous and inaccurate., Like when i hear Pale Waves i don't think oh here's a band that ripped off the 80s, i think oh here's one more boring as fuck modern radio band. It doesn't cross my mind that they're supposed to have an 80's sound. I don't get it. Tell me what 80's song sounds like Television Romance for example... (the title though brings to mind Radio Romance by Tiffany....)

  • @milkcarton6654

    @milkcarton6654

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm speaking with some authority as an unsuccessful 40 years old musician whose output since the 90's is chiefly ripping off the 80's and while i've been unsuccessful, i think i've ripped off the 80's more successfully than Pale Waves. Sound wise, production wise, feel wise. I'd be insulted if someone listening to my music didn't immediately think "wow....you've ripped off half of my favorite 80's bands"

  • @PhlesheBone
    @PhlesheBone2 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like all they're nostalgic for is tumblr.

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell58275 жыл бұрын

    I liked this video -- but it was a bit similar to other videos I've seen before.

  • @marijandesin8226
    @marijandesin82265 жыл бұрын

    They're making it cause the record company thinks it 'll make the most money. Its a project.

  • @DimiKaye
    @DimiKaye5 жыл бұрын

    The Sound of the Future Comes From the Past. Also, don't forget Synthwave and bands and producers like GUNSHIP, The Midnight, Volkor X, MoTER, Yoru, Gryff, Turbo Kinight, Straplocked, yours truly etc.

  • @catinthehat8412
    @catinthehat84124 жыл бұрын

    a band with good taste in music yay

  • @Tralfaz2007
    @Tralfaz20073 жыл бұрын

    Well said.

  • @thomassschwarz5998
    @thomassschwarz5998Ай бұрын

    Haha you didn't really think you would get away with a don Henley sample, did you?

  • @SavitTheGoalie
    @SavitTheGoalie2 жыл бұрын

    I love this band

  • @teriko865
    @teriko8653 жыл бұрын

    idk coming from house, hearing people complain about songs sounding similar is pretty funny. peoples expectations are so different

  • @agonzalez7095
    @agonzalez70954 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure Pale Waves ever sounded that 80's, they just have a really contrived version of the dirty hit sound. Album 1 is essentially a 1975 album

  • @kys.online
    @kys.online5 жыл бұрын

    Okay but why do all of their songs sound exactly the same

  • @BritPopSnob
    @BritPopSnob4 жыл бұрын

    I like them a bit and really like a couple of their songs, but not enough to buy their LP and put it in my collection. They are just a bit too pop and not "rock" even though they are as the narrator said "guitar based". I really do like a couple of their songs (they are on a playlist on my phone). There's just something about them that is (non-artistic) and a bit prefab. I feel kind of bad about it but there it is. The Good Natured were WAY BETTER.

  • @jamesmolloy5350
    @jamesmolloy53505 жыл бұрын

    Don't mind them at all, literally the only problem is that Heather can't sing live at all, once they get that sorted they'll be great

  • @antthomas7916
    @antthomas79165 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit, that band looks so contrived and cringy. That singer is the epitome of a try hard. You should do a video on Idles. They're one of the more interesting newer bands around today. Their commentaries on modern life is at least relevant and somewhat important. They actually stand for something, which is a nice change of pace.

  • @greenkorn69

    @greenkorn69

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yo, thank you for mentioning Idles. I just looked them up and they are much, much better and I can hear the influences plus their own sound. They're great.

  • @johnsummers9660

    @johnsummers9660

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your favorite band is "try hard". If you're not trying hard while making art as well as making a product for consumption then you will more than likely fail. I grew up with all the '80's goth and punk stuff and if you think those band images weren't contrived then you're crazy. That's not to say it's bad but it's silly to think Robert Smith using lots of eye shadow and lipstick isn't contrived for dramatic effect. Sure, he does it better than anyone but it's still purely an image thing. It takes a while for a musical act to find it's footing. After they find out what they're really about, that's when what they do becomes seemingly effortless. Some bands never get that far but you have to start somewhere. Being a "try hard" isn't a vice if one wants to succeed. Being derivative is what you need to worry about and I think you could easily make a strong case for Pale Waves being derivative of quite a few bands. You could also say Idles is derivative of Bauhaus. That doesn't mean Idles are bad it just means their influences are easily recognizable. Pale Waves sin is being forgettable while Idles is less so.

  • @Fairiela
    @Fairiela5 жыл бұрын

    they're a fairly new band and still finding their sound. they're making music that they like. if it's popular? sweet. if it's not? sweet. you like what you like shouldn't matter where they take influence from. after all, this is a theory and not fact. everyone can interpret it as they choose but only the band knows the truth of it all.

  • @mrcreosote3808
    @mrcreosote38085 жыл бұрын

    The music sounds so static and lifeless, where's the M E L O D E

  • @pearlspacejam8639

    @pearlspacejam8639

    3 жыл бұрын

    Melody didn’t exist in the 2010’s remember

  • @oct5412
    @oct54124 жыл бұрын

    I don't really get where all the hate for these guys is coming from. Sure they're not perfect nor are they the best band ever, but I think they're pretty good compared to most of the stuff being churned out today (obviously if you compare them directly to the Cure or the Smiths you're not going to be very impressed). Also, keep in mind that these guys are just starting out and just released their first album a year or so ago. Most bands usually start off emulating their influences and doing covers, so give them some time to figure out their sound and come into their own. Coming from an old school goth who was actually around back in the 80s, I'd say Pale Waves is doing pretty good so far!

  • @GallowglassVT
    @GallowglassVT3 жыл бұрын

    I'd be fine with 80s pop culture being so prevalent if it didn't come with the repetition of 80s style historical events too.

  • @EricNygma
    @EricNygma4 жыл бұрын

    This video completely missed the point of the band’s criticism. Because I even came to know of Pale Waves from so many ppl calling them “The 1975 (goth edition)” or “The 1985”

  • @isaiaszuniga47
    @isaiaszuniga475 жыл бұрын

    I like only one song of Pale Waves, my brain don't support too much happiness and high school girl lyrics.

  • @theguynamedgio
    @theguynamedgio4 жыл бұрын

    hey you wanna hear a band that actually sounds the way that this guy describes the "good" qualities of this band? except that actually has real influence and doesnt feel like overproduced boring music? theyre called french police, theyre from chicago.

  • @Belihoney
    @Belihoney4 жыл бұрын

    Wow was NOT expecting this. I'm so conditioned to elitist takes on music.

  • @humanrays
    @humanrays Жыл бұрын

    One of the few guitar acts to "break through"? It feels more like they were propped up.

  • @confinedinhell
    @confinedinhell2 жыл бұрын

    Pale waves sound more like a pop band rather than an 80s copycat. There’s currents bands that actually sound like they’re from the 80s

  • @johnentwistle952

    @johnentwistle952

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly that.. weird pick indeed

  • @fromsiriusitcame
    @fromsiriusitcame3 жыл бұрын

    when i saw their hit video the first thing that came to my mind was "this is to safe and too pop to have that sad goth girl aesthetic". they look like something way more mature than the actual music they play is kinda disappointing.

  • @honeythekidsarevampires

    @honeythekidsarevampires

    3 жыл бұрын

    you literally copy pasted this comment lmaoo

  • @fromsiriusitcame

    @fromsiriusitcame

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@honeythekidsarevampires i was looking for goth music and in some point i found themand is just 80's pop i hope they switch to something more melancholic the singer has the voice to deliver, they are like going to a mcdonalds specting to buy a big mac and you open the box and there is only bread and lettuce.

  • @silverlonerwolf
    @silverlonerwolf5 жыл бұрын

    I don’t see it. I don’t hear it. Aside from fashion and the look of the lead singer(which is unoriginal and derivative), this is a pop rock band. Their sound is over produced, boring, and forgettable. The comparisons drawn in this video are a real stretch.

  • @brandonpage7087

    @brandonpage7087

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not really. Their music sounds heavily 80s influenced, & that's not a bad thing.

  • @josephmayfield945

    @josephmayfield945

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonpage7087 not at all, god not at all.

  • @j0an-07-arc6

    @j0an-07-arc6

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonpage7087 you need to listen to 80s music from all genres

  • @brandonpage7087

    @brandonpage7087

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joy Devision, i do listen to 80s music of all different genres, & have been, since i was a kid.

  • @sainthunny

    @sainthunny

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ok Alana

  • @asbocazbo
    @asbocazbo2 жыл бұрын

    Influences of The Glove too

  • @leoalex2344
    @leoalex23445 жыл бұрын

    They came, they went.

  • @lep2525
    @lep25254 жыл бұрын

    I thought that was Taylor Swift singing lmao.

  • @666catanist
    @666catanist5 жыл бұрын

    Nostalgic Pop? Those choruses sound like every other overproduced contemporary pop act.

  • @euronysus8453
    @euronysus84535 жыл бұрын

    be my God