Pair amplifiers CORRECTLY - Power Balancing Car Audio

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Car Audio Systems require the use of amplifiers. But how much power is too much? If we add a 1200 watt amplifier to a stock car audio system, will the subwoofer be overbearing and too loud? If we add a 4 channel amplifer for our midbass midrange and tweeter speakers, how large should the subwoofer amplifier be? In this video we are going to learn all about power balancing!
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  • @CarAudioFabrication
    @CarAudioFabrication6 жыл бұрын

    Some of you are asking about systems that have MUCH more power, even more than 3,000 total. The larger the total power the more you can shift the power to the subwoofer amps and still have a good balance. So for those of you that are running 20K plus on your subwoofers it's totally acceptable to have a much higher percentage on the subs in relation to the speakers, but let's be honest... at that point its no longer about sound quality and much more about competing and setting a score with the subs. This video is more for the overwhelming majority of people who are likely running from 500 up to 3,000 which I would consider more of an everyday system, and again the VAST majority of systems that exist. Additionally yes, there are other factors to take into account, speaker efficiency, how close the speakers are to listening position, size of the vehicle, temperature of the air... on and on. This is why there is a range of ratios, to account for the variables. Can you skew everything in your favor and use the worlds most efficient speakers and the worlds least efficient subwoofer and obtain balance. Sure... but odds are that using a power range within the described range will still perform better than outside the range. Its a guideline for a starting point that works incredibly well.

  • @HellShock5150

    @HellShock5150

    6 жыл бұрын

    CarAudioFabrication, thank you so much for this video, i never knew there was a formula for level matching your amps, i usually play by ear. However i do have a question, I am currently running a pair of Focal 165fx active off of my Pioneer 80PRS, for my front stage through a single bi-ampable kicker kx400.4. I have my tweeters running off the amp 1 channel and my mids off the amp 2 channel. Then I have a seperate 500watt amp for my sub. Would their be an appropriate formula for the tweets to mid, or is it just leveling with the built in DSP and RTA at that point?

  • @lary2544

    @lary2544

    6 жыл бұрын

    CarAudioFabrication why don't you make a new video over peed lights in a car.

  • @lary2544

    @lary2544

    6 жыл бұрын

    CarAudioFabrication led lights***

  • @richardr5888

    @richardr5888

    6 жыл бұрын

    CarAudioFabrication Any chance you could do a video on components inside an amp? (Like the sub cut out video). Interested in what makes a more expensive sub amp sound better than a cheaper one that puts out the exact same rated power? If they cover the same frequency range, is there a magic number in the specs to look for? I always hear "more expensive components", and I understand how that could affect reliability, but how does it apply to sound quality? Awesome channel by the way. You really help explain a lot!

  • @asabhcir3636

    @asabhcir3636

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Chuck Holmes so you meant 100 x 4 for mids and highs. 400 x 4 would give you 1600 watts which would be a 40/60 spit

  • @Carl_Jr
    @Carl_Jr6 жыл бұрын

    My rule of thumb: Does the bass make my wife complain? Yes = Enough power No = Need more power. Are the highs louder than her complaining? Yes = Enough power No = Need more power.

  • @henrywiltcher

    @henrywiltcher

    5 жыл бұрын

    This formula is highly dependent on music I find. I hate half her music and she hates half of mine. Luckily the other half we share!

  • @niro56

    @niro56

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, this sounds like the holy grail 😄

  • @SunSunSunn

    @SunSunSunn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ok, Boomer.

  • @oniinu

    @oniinu

    4 жыл бұрын

    Man, you're so cool. Unhealthy relationships are the MOST cool. Caveman Carl Jr over here telling us how it's done!

  • @Carl_Jr

    @Carl_Jr

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@oniinu Thanks. I think I'm pretty cool, too. It's good to see other people recognize it. I wouldn't agree that unhealthy relationships are cool, though. You may want to seek help if you feel they are. Caveman? LoL That's funny. I am old but I can't say I'm prehistoric. I'm more vintage, like a fine wine. But thanks for the awesome compliment. Stay safe and healthy. 😎

  • @mxj8361
    @mxj83616 жыл бұрын

    I am using this video to teach my son proportional fractions

  • @henrywiltcher

    @henrywiltcher

    5 жыл бұрын

    Application of mathematics is always the best means of teaching mathematics. We start with counting money and then soon lose physical problems to justify our learning. It's not until I studied physics that it came back to that model.

  • @AliAbbas-xf9cb

    @AliAbbas-xf9cb

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@henrywiltcher ,

  • @frank14725

    @frank14725

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shit, I never got it at school but finally got it with this hahahahaha

  • @iandolla

    @iandolla

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a huge issue with math, but the way he explained that equation just sounded so simple

  • @gwsmith76

    @gwsmith76

    3 жыл бұрын

    Eww, fractions suck. Ha ha! Good job dad.

  • @bryans5150
    @bryans51506 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for simplifying an infinite possibility of variables without focussing on window smashing nonsense. Seems like many people are moving away from good balanced sound.good job working the videos and message.thanx a bunch

  • @adaboy4z
    @adaboy4z5 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation my factory amp is 320 watts on my mids and highs and my after market sub amp is 650. So helpful!!

  • @briantimms6528
    @briantimms65282 жыл бұрын

    I am slowly working through doing a car up, and the audio "attempt" from that came with this car is an embarrassment at best. Front channels hooked to rear door speakers, rear channels to stock 8" paper-wubs in the parcel try, tweeters hooked somehow in the mix on the dashboard, the overall quality value on a scale of 1 - 10 is about negative 35!!!! Even the headunit is just sitting in the din-space, not attatched, not secure, just sitting in there!!! I gave up on anything stock, so slowly piecing together parts here and there. This is a rare piece of information that I have been seeking and hunting, and is gold, thank you! If you google for stuff like Amplifier power ratios, you generally get flooded with "amplifier to speaker" or "amplifier to subwoofer" but you dont get much on speaker power to subwoofer power ratios, so this was informative and great to actually get some figures, and base-working as well. Thanks again!

  • @RikAindow
    @RikAindow4 жыл бұрын

    Great videos, thanks for taking the time to make these. I'm just starting out with a new install on my car and I've learned a lot from these videos.

  • @jamesorr1200
    @jamesorr12006 жыл бұрын

    I’ve loved the last few videos! It’s funny how even though my system’s installed and tuned, I can’t stop watching. Or dreaming about Audiofrog 😀

  • @gettinthrewlife76
    @gettinthrewlife766 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty much keeping it simple for myself, I went with a RF PUNCH 1000.5 ch. I'm using RF speakers for door, rear deck and old-school Power Acoustik tweeters in the pillars. For the sub ch, I got a great deal on two 8" CT SOUNDS HYDROS. Once I'm ready to make them vids of my build, I'll let you know. Thanks Mark for another great vid,✌️ out from CALIFORNIA

  • @basstech714
    @basstech7144 жыл бұрын

    Good video. I’ve always believed you can never have to much power but it needs to be balanced. To little power leaves no room for headroom, but that has to be balanced with self control and proper level setup. You can have 10-20k on bass for pounding but have a way to turn it down to balance with the rest of the system.

  • @aurelsimon2634
    @aurelsimon26346 жыл бұрын

    I was waiting for a long time for a video like this. I mean okay, I calculated the decibel output of the speakers, and the sub, and yeah I do know that subs (obviously) are hungrier for watts, but designing a system it's not just about numbers, I want it to sound gooooood! "So you go super bass heavy in your first system, whoa no biggie, everybody does that." Well how about a video that teaches rookies, and beginners, and even first timers a principle, that they can rely on and refine it to their liking, and do not make that "first mistake". Mark, you did a great job with this vid, and served the purpuse of your videos really good, and I salute you for this. I think back, yeah I was an amateur, I learned a lot, and I calculated everything, still didn't know how strong mids'nhighs do I need for my first sub. I even did some research, and couldn't find anything useful, so I did what I thought was right, and learned a lot from my mistakes since. I know that a lot of rookies watching your vids will learn, and skip this first mistake, and in their honor, I thank you. Those who tell you that this vid, is stupid and does not contain any meaning, are either so dumb, that they do not comprehend the word "ratio", or professionals, who have forgotten a long time ago where they did come from.

  • @JoeIsCrazyWillman
    @JoeIsCrazyWillman3 жыл бұрын

    I've NEVER had amplified door speakers. Always only off the aftermarket head. I simply kept the bass setting at 1, set the low pass to 100hz, and set the high pass to 100hz, set the subwoofer setting at 1-3, and medium settings for treble and mid, and upgraded the door speakers to tri-axials. Always has worked out great. I'm not blasting anybody out, but at least my stuff stays pretty clean save for like the last 3-5 on the volume knob.

  • @littlellama4157
    @littlellama41574 жыл бұрын

    "use a 50/50 split on factory system" Me: has stock door speakers with 2x 2500w rms 12" subs

  • @robbywood9652

    @robbywood9652

    4 жыл бұрын

    little llama ME 😂

  • @slawosionko1764
    @slawosionko17646 жыл бұрын

    Marku. Jestem z Polski. I oglądam Twoje filmiki. Z dzisiejszego filmu , mimo że zrozumiałem połowę, a resztę się domyśliłem. To dowiedziałem się dużo. Dzięki. I dawaj więcej takich i z budowy różnych systemów car audio.😁

  • @ethancass6885
    @ethancass68853 жыл бұрын

    I don't usually hit the like button, but the way he asked was just so slick that I gotta give it to em, congrats Mark, you're part of the .01% of videos I "like"

  • @acemage1116
    @acemage11164 жыл бұрын

    Loved this video, never ever thought of the balance between sub power and "everything else" power. Somehow i´ve manage to avoid making big mistakes, i´ve always been that 50/50 kind of person when it comes to the sound. And when everyone else wanted the sub to be high and hard (db), I always wanted sub to go deep and still i manage pretty good dp. Thinking of a new project now and i´m going to use this rule at maybe 40/60.

  • @Kaylas_Customs
    @Kaylas_Customs6 жыл бұрын

    Auckland , New Zealand , Love the Vids . Im on a Low Budget But am able to Utilize The relevant information from Specific Videos Like this one witch has made my system Sound Great !!

  • @JijiVS
    @JijiVS6 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I was looking for this for a while. Thank you

  • @robertribe9492
    @robertribe94926 жыл бұрын

    Mark! Muito obrigado pelo vídeo!

  • @Adam-cj5zh
    @Adam-cj5zh5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I understand completely now!🙏

  • @jonathantenorio8829
    @jonathantenorio8829 Жыл бұрын

    I like the concept of the video. Well explained I always advice people to never go cheap for voice amps. I've made that mistake when I started messing with sound systems very long time ago. Through out all this time I've learned that it all depends on your ears but I personally prefer rockford amps for voice. They just have that power and punch very crisp. Plus they don't build there amps cheap. They have the best components inside. That is why I stick to rockford for voice amps

  • @jlolment
    @jlolment3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not even looking for vehicle audio info and this was helpful, nice work

  • @JustAzzDope
    @JustAzzDope6 жыл бұрын

    According to AudioControl that LC-4.800 doesn't produce 800 wrms (200x4) unless each channel is run at 2ohms. 99% of the people using it would only be running it at 4ohm loads, which would only make it 500 wrms (125x4). So, that means at 40/60 it would be 500wrms/750wrms and at 25/75 it would be 500wrms/1500wrms. Keep up the good work!

  • @celicaboy842

    @celicaboy842

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly why I read comments first lol. It saved me from posting a duplicate :D

  • @Mr215Alive

    @Mr215Alive

    5 жыл бұрын

    This!!

  • @classicdell
    @classicdell5 жыл бұрын

    Another awesome vid as always!!!!!

  • @crazzy2456
    @crazzy24565 жыл бұрын

    thx mark. this info will help me in my upcomming build :)

  • @flatoot
    @flatoot Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explaining your knowledge in a way we can understand. I've gone over board on my subs and sub amp. I'm at 25/75 speakers to subs

  • @TheOrca1987
    @TheOrca19876 жыл бұрын

    You mathed the crap out of that. Great job explaining.

  • @Strykenine
    @Strykenine5 жыл бұрын

    All that, and a math lesson. You're doing God's work here.

  • @billpeirce7127
    @billpeirce71274 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Great info and explanation. Thanks

  • @Bryanctree
    @Bryanctree5 жыл бұрын

    Watch your videos several times on the important topics and I always learn more. Continually learning, but the setup I want is wayyyy expensive for me at least. Two P3's, prime 12001D, and focal components, im looking like 2k all said and done :O

  • @arthurwatts1680
    @arthurwatts16805 жыл бұрын

    Mark, as always I enjoyed your explanation, but just to clarify for my own purposes (dual subs in an SQ configuration) : 1 x 800W amp for front and rear speakers (4 channel amp - component front, coaxial rear) 1 x 400W mono amp for subwoofer #1 1 x 400W mono amp for subwoofer #2 I realize that's simplifying things, but if we're talking RMS rather than peak power surely 400W into each 10-inch JL sub is plenty ? I readily admit that I don't spend too much time thinking about such things with home audio, but this makes total sense given the seating positions and the cabin effect in a car. I accept that you make a living configuring and installing people's systems but I'd really appreciate your input. Thanks for the video (and I did remember to like it).

  • @greenmanalishi7913
    @greenmanalishi79135 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video. I currently run 1440 to active tweets/mids/front midbass/rear midbass filler, and 1200 to 2X10" subs. Even though I'm a tad lopsided, the limiting factor for me is not low bass, but mid bass. My subs feel like they will tear the car apart long before the amp gives out. My mid-bass woofers, on the other hand, still bottom out from time to time even with a clean 180/channel. But there's only so much you can run off a stock alternator even with super efficient class Ds.

  • @alfredoluciano5794
    @alfredoluciano57946 жыл бұрын

    Great video very informative 😁👍

  • @kid_rajah
    @kid_rajah6 жыл бұрын

    Okay Mark, you are going to have to break down the head unit output values because I see a lot of decks getting blown by this video. It really helps if you talk about things like Dynamic Bass and so forth that can effect the sound quality of a system. I also want to thank you for your videos man, I learned and also remember things I learned as a teen when I was learning to install car audio.

  • @JijiVS
    @JijiVS6 жыл бұрын

    A long debated question answered. Thanks

  • @jcinewilliams8819
    @jcinewilliams88193 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow that was so simple to understand Thanks.

  • @Lalith22
    @Lalith226 жыл бұрын

    hi mark.i am in sri lankan guy.. so any way, i shuold thanks first of all. coz the best and good explanation so can undestand other person all over the world.i had seen more videos what y have done so good.thaks y verry much.waiting for next video....

  • @vincemichaels4809
    @vincemichaels48096 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful video! I like the old school red Legacy amp, that was my first amp as well!

  • @ottroyb
    @ottroyb6 жыл бұрын

    Great vid helped a lot

  • @craigladwig6551
    @craigladwig65514 жыл бұрын

    Thank you that really did help

  • @enapex3824
    @enapex38244 жыл бұрын

    Good information mate.

  • @larryfredrick1086
    @larryfredrick10865 жыл бұрын

    Man this video helps out more to me in power...!!

  • @LeeG260
    @LeeG2605 жыл бұрын

    First time making any changes to factory installed components (Newbie). Considering this video does a recommended Alpine PDX-V9 (5 channel AMP 4x100+500), server my primary purpose of achieving good sound quality (Jazz, Blues, R&B, Vocals, string instruments, piano, and horns are preferred listening), and not having too much overring bass? Speakers are (4)100RMS (Alpine R-Series) and JL Audio Stealth Sub(500RMS, 10 inch). Vehicle is 2004 Toyo Sequoia if that matters. Also, I did upgrade head unit to aftermarket Kenwood Excelon unit. Thanks for all the great videos and comments by others.

  • @TheWedgieCraft99
    @TheWedgieCraft993 жыл бұрын

    thank you sir!

  • @zaclavcanski5195
    @zaclavcanski51954 жыл бұрын

    Really great video.

  • @Pau11984
    @Pau119846 жыл бұрын

    Now this is a nice video was curious myself I need a good balance

  • @scottmorton21
    @scottmorton214 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark! I really enjoy your channel and can appreciate the time, detail and love that you put into your setups. Nice video editing skills as well. Keep up the good work. I'm very picky myself when it comes to car audio. But I don't see much in the lines of more affordable amps or speakers on your channel. High end setups are great and all but reviews and setups of some of the more common and mid-tear components ($400 to $600 amps / $150 to $300 speakers) would be great and help me and others as well. But if you only want to do the higher end stuff, that's fine too. If you do have some videos on more affordable options, please post a link or two. I use to have an old school Sony Explode 5 channel amp (40Wx4, 150Wx1), CDT 3-way component speakers, 2 Image Dynamics 10" subs, Clarion Pro Audo CD receiver (got it on clearance), Audio Control active crossover (made my own crossover modules with 1% resistors) and a ton of second skin sound deadener. Everything for less than $1,500 total. I fiber glassed my own custom kick panels and built a Deathbox for the subs (isobaric configuration). Tuned it all for SQ. Came out sounding better than most shops could do with expensive gear. I don't have the car anymore but plan on doing another similar setup in my Outback. It's been 10 years or so since I did the stereo and everything has changed, more or less and is why I was asking about you doing more mid-tear setups. They can sound just as good or better than the high end stuff with some TLC, tuning and careful setup.

  • @justinmurphy2227
    @justinmurphy22276 жыл бұрын

    A great video. Not only for new guys but for guys that think they know everything LOL.

  • @CarAudioFabrication

    @CarAudioFabrication

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being a part of the Patreon team!

  • @shaharj4566
    @shaharj45666 жыл бұрын

    Hey Mark, great videos and alot of helpful information, thank you. would you mind making a video explaining the whole "free air" subwoofers and explain how to measure the correct woofer size compares to your trunk and how is it really effective compares to a standard subwoofer in a box construction, thank you in advance

  • @TomSmithuk
    @TomSmithuk6 жыл бұрын

    Maths with Mark in the Fabkitchen!

  • @sebsoud
    @sebsoud4 жыл бұрын

    What is missing here is that the watts indicated by manufacturers can easily lead to compare apples with carots. The IMPORTANT thing is to check for which THD (distortion) these watts are given. Very often, it's for an high distortion, and thus X watts with 0.5% THD or X watts with 5% THD does imply that these 2 amplifiers does not produce the same power with the same sound quality at all!!! So the computations made from these watts are then a very rough estimation and don't mean a lot. It's only pertinent if same kind of amplifiers from same brand are used (for subs and main speakers) and in any case check the specs!

  • @CarAudioFabrication
    @CarAudioFabrication6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! Where is everyone watching from today?

  • @davvesto6757

    @davvesto6757

    6 жыл бұрын

    CarAudioFabrication I’m enjoying your videos from a snowy Sweden 😊

  • @michdavelz

    @michdavelz

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the vid! Im watching from Spanish Fork, Utah

  • @AurelioLopezJr

    @AurelioLopezJr

    6 жыл бұрын

    Texas

  • @leov0

    @leov0

    6 жыл бұрын

    Colorado

  • @thekinginthenorth989

    @thekinginthenorth989

    6 жыл бұрын

    North Carolina!

  • @gtavtheavengergunnerlegend3340
    @gtavtheavengergunnerlegend33406 жыл бұрын

    Ah ha. Found it. OK so even after the big 3, upgraded alternator, I need to get this shuruken battery installed asap. My 1500bd is over powering my r400.4. Sounded great with my 1k watt sub amp and my r400.4.

  • @StuffedDonut
    @StuffedDonut2 жыл бұрын

    For my install I have two MTX terminator subs at 200 Watts-rms and 4 ohms wired in parallel so that the final load is 400 watts-rms at 2 ohms. My amp is 2 ohm stable at 750 watts-rms, so its more than enough to power the subs. I personally run the amp at 400 watts-rms so I get the most out of the subwoofers without blowing them up.

  • @hooterboy12345
    @hooterboy123455 жыл бұрын

    2200w split to 2 ported 12’s/4 sealed 12’s and 500w to mids and highs sounds like a concert in the truck. I can’t imagine ever doing any more.

  • @hebrewloc9416
    @hebrewloc94165 жыл бұрын

    I uses EQ's in any system to clear out distortion, amplify the sound. And dial in the sound I wanna hear. Plus a few EQ's I have have front and rear high level inputs along with an optional rear rca input, since I add linear doom tweeters I learned that I can get 6 high level channels, since the tweets don't need alot of power and are facing me, I hook those to the decks front high level lines, then instead of using the front highs as input to the EQ i use the rear high level into the the front high level inputs on the EQ and rear rca's outputs on the deck to the rca inputs on the EQ by using a rca 2x 1 into 2 spliters except with my JBL by Harmon Cardon digital display of 10 band EQ, that one has rca in and out's, allowing bypass non amped sound to the amp. Then I'm left with 4 high level, front and rear outputs, I always replace stock speakers with higher wattage aftermarket speakers so the EQ+deck gives them greet sound, when I crank it up like in my minivan I've got 1 Soundstream comp SPL12D DVC 4ohms per channel bridgable ; 450w rms @ 4ohms, 800w rms @ 2ohms, wired to a 2500w max Earthquake amp 2ohm stable, pushing 750w rms @ 2ohms. And installed in a sealed enclosure that has the exact air space it needs, it slaps hard and kicks hard, cranked up my system hits hard but I can still gear the music, the voices, the highs and the lows. Clear as they should be. I love bass. But i also love music.

  • @markkobza8129
    @markkobza81294 жыл бұрын

    i know its late, but, 01 Highlander, kenwood deck, old school hi fonics mono 200w hercules(1989), in 4 ohm- 360 2 ohm, front and rear speakers crossed over from the deck at 80hrz, earrhquake 10dbxi @2ohm, playing 80 and lower, sounded fantastic.l i know its not a stock radio, but still sounded awesome. not a spl system at all but really sounded great for stock speakers and not a ton of money invested. enough boom for dubstep, just right kick for a7x, 5fdp and all hail the yeti. good tight double bass chest pounder. just my opinion..

  • @trevorculbeth9351
    @trevorculbeth9351 Жыл бұрын

    The good old cross multiply and divide hands down my most common piece of math class knowledge I've ever used I'd say almost daily haha

  • @charlesgraham9954
    @charlesgraham9954 Жыл бұрын

    double stacked 2 - 6x9 in my doors, 2 - 12'' rockford subs, Boss 10'', 3'' mid with tweeters in a 1967 Bug. yup, no backseat.

  • @numinous4789
    @numinous47896 жыл бұрын

    Got a vid on balanced differential vs non-balanced inputs, how to tell which you have, and the subsequent need to use the appropriate RCAs (whether single-ended or twisted pair)?

  • @camerond8176
    @camerond81764 жыл бұрын

    So do the 25/75 split, and install the bass control knob which allows you to dial the bass level up or down, but never over the set gain setting on the amp (more of a tuning or EQ knob).............................Have the boom when you want it, or the audiophile when your want that too.

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 Жыл бұрын

    When I am looking for an amp to match with speakers I generally go by a process of using an amp with twice the output than the speaker. So I would find an amp that was capable of providing 200 watts a channel if I were installing 100 W (RMS) speakers. Then I adjust the gain accordingly, somewhere just under 50% so I am sending 80-90 watts of power to the speakers. Foremost this is to reduce the stress and heat in/on the amplifier since it is working under 50% capacity. This means reduction of heat within the amplifier, keeping components cooler. As heat is the number one enemy of amplifiers. This will help the amplifier work properly and for many years longer than using an amp that is running at 70%, 80%, and 90% it's capacity. If your amps are in the cabin of your vehicle this will also help reduce the heat in the cabin and lower its natural temperature. Less heat also ensures a better sound with less chance of distortion from the amplifier. So far this hasn't let me down. But I also know this method is not always possible.

  • @jinxyjonxy123
    @jinxyjonxy1234 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mark! Wattage is dependent on speaker impedance. Generally, amplifiers mention wattage @ 2 ohms as a standard. But, in case we use 4 ohm speakers the corresponding amplifier output is comparatively less. How do we match a subwoofer amplifier in such a situation.

  • @AF_1892
    @AF_18923 жыл бұрын

    Great video. You didn't mention capacitors! My system is old 2003 Paul Walker red F 150 Lightning. People stole my crap every other year. I went ape sh*t on the last install. So 10 yr record no theft. I can't tell if the Rockford phosgate mid amp is dying, the Kenwood mono bass amp going (doubt it). The sub box was designed to be ported with 10's. I deeply regret not getting 12's. Custom built box. We sealed up the ported box. Anyways I don't live in Houston anymore. I think one sub is blown. Since its sealed I cant figure out which one isnt going. Getting to the midrange amp requires removing the whole seat . getting the box to come out will take 2 guys about 6 hrs to figure out my tricks. Booth subs have to be undone and 20lbs each. Then the box is bolted to the frame. After you get thru that, better have random torque wrench screws other wild screws that the trusty Kenwood mono bass amp is bolted onto. Reverse in time i should have built the box for 12s. I was spoiled w a 15 for my first dinky system in a hatchback. The ported box was calculated by awesome phd physics guy at my school. Anyways it still sounds good. Kenwood deck went out after 17 years of dropping faceplate million times. Multiple break ins. It was still going but my XM adapter couldnt handle last shock. Resoldered it. Battery wire from the harness was wandering loose. Good excuse to buy new things. I am spending good money on engine things to make sure I can escape Milwaukee in it.

  • @theecakeboy
    @theecakeboy2 жыл бұрын

    Pushing 750 watts kicker amp into two cerwin Vega 10 inch and 425 watt kicker amp into 2 tweeters 4-6.5 2"way coaxial and 2 6.5 for mid.

  • @Ronnie-og5vq
    @Ronnie-og5vq5 жыл бұрын

    man...if my math teacher would have used car audio to teach math to me then maybe i wouldn't suck at it so much. thanks man👍.

  • @brayannexon4613
    @brayannexon46134 жыл бұрын

    That's cool I accidently made a damn near 40/60 ratio in my car. 320w on mid bass and 500w on subs so i guess i knew but anyway this video was helpful.

  • @vfgjasminebaker
    @vfgjasminebaker3 жыл бұрын

    In school: *wHeN wILL i EvEr UsE tHiS iN rreEaL LiFeEe???* Now: ........ *oh*

  • @pinarellorider9023
    @pinarellorider90236 жыл бұрын

    Another great vid! Would you recommend for a 2015 Silverado 2500HD crew cab?

  • @pred7six7
    @pred7six76 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. What sub is that sitting on the shelf behind you?

  • @Thezuule1
    @Thezuule14 жыл бұрын

    Step 1: Buy a decent 5 channel amplifier. Step 2: Profit.

  • @phizzle24

    @phizzle24

    4 жыл бұрын

    Audiocontrol have announced new 5ch amps in both the LC and D series. 4x125wrms + 500wrms @ 4 ohm. Probably will be a bit overpriced compared to and considering the already established competition. Alpine V9 for example. Pretty hard to beat for power, quality, reliability, heat output and footprint. The D-5.1200 does have the advantage of a pretty sweet DSP built in though. No extra expense for a seperate DSP plus associated wiring/fuses. I really like rhe idea of the Audison 5.1K as well, but that is mega money, at least in Australia anyway. Plus it's footprint is huge.

  • @saadalessa
    @saadalessa2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great video. I think instead of 40/60 & 25/75 role you can multiply by 1.5 or 3 for example: 800x1.5=1200 or 800x3=2400. Is that right?

  • @brandonramlal3431
    @brandonramlal34316 жыл бұрын

    Great Videos Mark, but the videos are to short.. By the time you start enjoying it, it finishes. lol.

  • @valerianpantsulia1730
    @valerianpantsulia17304 жыл бұрын

    Nice video and Good job,it was very interesting.///////////////////

  • @jangortegasuarez2007
    @jangortegasuarez20075 жыл бұрын

    For a total 3,000 Watts RMS on speakers? It’ll really be more than that for the subwoofers? Thanks

  • @l34052
    @l340526 жыл бұрын

    I feel very left out here, I have 2 12s receiving 500w rms each and my speakers are limited in their power capacity but are getting around 80-85w rms each. I've yet to actually meet anyone personally that is feeding 800w+ to their main speakers, mine are rated at 65w officially but I'm giving them clean power so can push it a little bit. This video has a feel of those amps that say they give you 2400w for £50....

  • @markwentz8332
    @markwentz83326 жыл бұрын

    Good video Mark, i would have used simpler ratios like 2:3 or 1:4 to make it easier to comprehend for those 5 out of 3 folks that have problems with math. I’m at 1:5 myself, 400w on mids/highs and 2000w on my sub.

  • @robertechols5066

    @robertechols5066

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mark Wentz do you have 2 in front and 2 in back ? Get back to me when you can, thanks

  • @markwentz8332

    @markwentz8332

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robert Echols not sure what you mean by that?

  • @robertechols5066

    @robertechols5066

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mark Wentz sorry, what l meant is , two 6 1/2 in front (mids and highs ) and two 6 1/2 ( mids and highs ) in the back with 2 12's, 4 channel 100 watt amplifier, 2000 watt mono amp , subs in back , just freaking out on the ratio lol , but if you like your set up , then I will like mine in two months when I finish my build

  • @markwentz8332

    @markwentz8332

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robert Echols I have four 6.5” Sundown Audio coaxials in my Ranger (in the factory 5x7 locations) on a Sundown SAX-100.4 and a Stereo Integrity HST-15mkII on a Sundown SCV-2000D

  • @robertechols5066

    @robertechols5066

    6 жыл бұрын

    gotcha dude , I think I have overkill, mechman 240 amp alternator, two xs d3400's , you helped me thanks

  • @hortonj63
    @hortonj636 жыл бұрын

    Please adjust your mic. It sounds very muffled when you sit there, other times its great as always!

  • @DapimpBDSD
    @DapimpBDSD6 жыл бұрын

    @Mark I'm building a custom box (about 1 48cu.ft.) for 2 kicker CompRT 6.75, which are rated for max .75cu.ft each. Should this be good enough? No other internal design yet kinda wanted to see how it sound before going for a more complex design.

  • @robertweekes5783
    @robertweekes5783 Жыл бұрын

    Also note that the more common subs, slotted ports, require less power than sealed subs, for the same volume.

  • @keenonmoore7651
    @keenonmoore76515 жыл бұрын

    CarAudioFabrication so for good sound quality go 50/50 correct? im running 6400watts total

  • @MrSuperjiva
    @MrSuperjiva3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mark Can you tell something about diference betwen ab and d class amplifliers?

  • @SeanColey
    @SeanColey6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video as always, Mark! I have four sets of the JBL 660GTI's and a JL W7 13" Anniversary Edition sub. I am planning my install in a 2017 Toyota Highlander. Would you recommend (A) 2 component woofers/tweeters in each door -or- (B) 2 components in the front doors, 1 in the rear doors, and the last set in the rear by the 3rd row? I've heard conflicting information so I figured I'd get your audience's input before experimenting for myself. There are a total of 8 woofers, 8 tweeters, and 1 sub. My stock JBL system is too weak and flat.

  • @ghettogeddy187
    @ghettogeddy1876 жыл бұрын

    My dc audio 175x4 keeps up with my 2 dc 3.5k Nicely

  • @shanemc5136
    @shanemc51366 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this Video, as always very well explain

  • @CarAudioFabrication

    @CarAudioFabrication

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @madhatter1787
    @madhatter17876 жыл бұрын

    Hello! Awesome vids. I was wondering (I know this may have already been answered) I have a aftermarket 200watt max car stereo/no connected amp. What's the max speaker wattage I can pair it with. I do have 2 speakers that are 220watts each. Is this touch for the stereo? I'm asking because I truly don't know.

  • @MichaelJCaboose013
    @MichaelJCaboose0134 жыл бұрын

    TL,DW: a. If the system is 400W RMS total and under, split power between subs and other speakers 50/50 or 60/40, favoring the sub b. 400W RMS and up, use from 60/40 to 75/25 power ratio, favoring sub

  • @cristianoronaldog.o.a.t4590
    @cristianoronaldog.o.a.t45904 жыл бұрын

    You need to make a video about those who install more mids/highs than subs LuL I have a 2 1200.4 EVOs 4 6.5 B&C, 2 10" B&C, 2 horns and an RE SA 500.1 with a 200wrms RE 12"

  • @albertlibricz1819
    @albertlibricz18194 жыл бұрын

    I like all your videos. I can tell you know your stuff. I have a 2017 Tacoma I want to keep the factory head unit and add audio control amplifier. Do the lc 4.800 have sound processor built in to them or do I need to add one to the lc series amplifiers? I want to do a good sounding system at a reasonable price point. What would you recommend??

  • @optimusprime708
    @optimusprime7086 жыл бұрын

    will cleaning speaker rubber surrounds with tap water. damage the rubber over time? Thanks.

  • @clplusp8762
    @clplusp87624 жыл бұрын

    So what would be a good subwoofer and amp option for my Avalon’s OEM JBL audio? A single trunk-mounted 8 or 10 inch with an amo pumping around 200-400 watts?🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @garlicbreadjenkins5780
    @garlicbreadjenkins57805 жыл бұрын

    6x 30w 4ohm speakers (2x4" 4x6.5") 1x 250w 4ohm sub 58/42 split would i need 2 amps?

  • @markwasserman6783
    @markwasserman67833 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mark, great channel! I wanted to ask since am having trouble finding information about pairing amps with speakers regarding power. I'm mainly looking for mid range not subs. So two examples. What's a good amp range in RMS watts for a component speaker that is rated 50 watts RMS with a sensitivity of 91dB. next would be a 75 watt RMS speaker with sensitivity of 88dB. Is there a good rule of thumb to use, like match the RMS or go with more power but do not exceed a certain amount over RMS?

  • @jonguintadcan9126
    @jonguintadcan91264 жыл бұрын

    new on your channel, and its very informative. may i ask what are the difference for the speaker amplifier and sub amplifier? i used on may car audio system 2 speaker amplifier ( 1 for the tweeters and mids and 1 for my 2 15” subs). i used a 4000watts amplifiers. thanks

  • @anttv9282
    @anttv92825 жыл бұрын

    U r awesome

  • @Mrkdog8081
    @Mrkdog80816 жыл бұрын

    I'm interested in the EQX you got

  • @DharshanBusKingdomOfficial
    @DharshanBusKingdomOfficial3 ай бұрын

    We must consider the SPL of both...,

  • @abnpthfdr2934
    @abnpthfdr29344 жыл бұрын

    @CarAudioFabrication Another great video! Do you have a video or can you tell me how to determine the ratio between Amp watts and Speaker watts? For example: If I have an 1200w Amp to power two subs, the subs should be _____watts. Thanks.

  • @michaelhiggins8123
    @michaelhiggins81234 жыл бұрын

    Hey man I was woundering where would u find the ferials you are using on the amps.

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    Yah.. 4th like. Trying to be first. Good video as always. Can use your tips for good use. 👍

  • @CarAudioFabrication

    @CarAudioFabrication

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Join the Patreon member team and get early access to videos and get that first like 😉 Patreon.com/caraudiofabrication

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