www.pagani.design/product/pagani-design-pd-1667-blue-seamaster/

@tylerp1019

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the review. Why do you think this model is 40-50% more expensive than the version with the wavy face dial??

@watchreviews4k

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerp1019 Thank you for watching Tyler. Profit. Regards, #WR4K

@tylerp1019

Жыл бұрын

@@watchreviews4k Thanks. I knew it had the more expensive clasp with the diver extension, but didn't really see anything else to justify the inflated price range. If it has a better fitted bezel and brighter lume i wouldn't mind paying more for it.

this particular model is a San Martin killer, very good quality

@watchreviews4k

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching John. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards, #WR4K

Very fair and unbiased review😊👍 Enjoyed your thoughts on the piece.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. Wear your pieces in good health. Regards.

I like your positive review. Fun watch, very nice look. Just got one to add to my little collection.

I got one of these 2 weeks ago second hand. It was bought a couple of months go and i got it in almost new condition. Although the lume initially isn't really bright on mine it lasts through the night well enough for me to read the time at a glance. The bezel really isn't great and the lume pip is almost non existant. The watch ran - 5 seconds a day and after some tweaking i got the NH35 now running at +3seconds a day for a week. I paid 60 Euros second hand with the silicon strap so for this money, and even at the regular price, for me it is a great every day beater watch. the sapphire crystal on it is a real pleasure to look at. If i were to buy it new i probably would go for the black/orange bezel and the steel bracelet. Long story short, the lume does it's job and for that money it's a whole lot of watch. Thank's for the nice review :)

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Stefanos. Glad you enjoyed it. Congratulations. Excellent choice. Wear yours in good health. Regards, #WR4K

This is seriously nice and will be my first AliExpress watch. I just wish the divers extension was instead a 5mm quick extension. Almost no one wears these watches over a wet suit yet almost everyone would benefit from a 5 mm quick extension. Thanks for your thorough reviews, they make product purchasing much easier.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. Congratulations. Excellent choice. Wear yours in good health. Regards.

I love them I bought 4 of them today on Special

Another fine review Sir , and nice attractive piece that looks excellent value at its price point. Thanks for another must watch video John 👍 Tam.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Tam. Glad you enjoyed it. Wear your pieces in good health. Regards.

Very good extensive review again.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Steven. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards.

Excellent review John, i really like the look of the watch. I am glad they didn't put the wart on the side of the case. A solid value. Regards,

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Steven. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards.

just got one. The NTTD version. Amazing for the money. Looks better in person!

@watchreviews4k

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Congratulations. Wear yours in good health. Regards, #WR4K

Very nice Review! Great job!

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Cláudio. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards.

Great review, John, that’s a nice homage piece of the Seamaster. I agree, the lack of the Helium escape valve is a plus for the aesthetics of the piece. Regards

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Mario. Glad you enjoyed it. I would prefer the Seamaster without a Helium Escape valve. It was the one thing I disliked about my Planet Ocean; which was a great watch. The Seamaster case shape is good looking, and comfortable on wrist; so its a shame they spoil it with the valve. It would have looked much better with a recessed valve like the Pelagos, and Sea-Dweller have. Regards.

Thank you for everything great information

@watchreviews4k

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Eric. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards, #WR4K

i ordered the one with the mesh bracelet

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Tommy. Congratulations. Excellent choice. Wear yours in good health. Regards.

I'm glad to see, that they've addressed the bracelet issue, that was characteristic of the initial executions, of this model. The original bracelet, utilized male endlinks, that allowed for the bracelet to drape in a manor, that exposed the rather roughly finished area, of the first link, where it connects to the endlink. It was especially noticeable, while on wrist. The use of female pivetted endlinks, has resolved this issue nicely, IMHO. I wonder, if this bracelet, would be compatible, w/ the PD1679. I feel that would make, the ideal "Planet Ocean" style homage. Excellent review as usual, WR, and thank you, for all of your hard work, and efforts. Cheers.....

@nicacioalencar5560

Жыл бұрын

I’m looking for buy this model and that was my doubts. Hope it came with this new bracelet.

@hansbischoff8391

9 ай бұрын

So now they put female endlinks?

@hansbischoff8391

9 ай бұрын

​@@nicacioalencar5560Did U recieved the pd 1667 with female endlinks?

@tarasmathers7423

9 ай бұрын

@@hansbischoff8391 No I do not own that model, but there are videos on KZread, showing the changes to the endlinks for that specific model. Yes they are female, now, or were the last I checked, because of the unsightly view that the male endlinks caused

@wngimageanddesign9546

Ай бұрын

No, this model's bracelet will not fit the PD-1679. I just tried to swap the bracelet onto it. The case lug dimensions are not the same. the 'wing tips' prevent the end link from seating deeper. Oh well.

Hey another great well presented review. I was actually sent the 1667 out for review and it had chosen the White Dial with Blue Red accents. I felt it was it was and is a lot of watch for the price which I knew that not just would not last but rather that it would be more that it can't last and it sadly has already hit the end as the Tudor Homage that is being sent to me and will be my next piece up for review will indeed have the 8215 movement and of course non hack which I believe the shortage of the NH35 is Pagani creating the shortage so they may and they will transition in to two line ups, premium like these and a sub $100 line up 8215 and I really didnt want it to happen but in my review I did last month I spoke and I also had already written about the pricing cant last. Great review. Kashton

@watchreviews4k

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Kashton. Glad you enjoyed it. The NH35A shortage in China was caused by a Covid outbreak in Malaysia where the movements are made. During the outbreak exports of the movements from Malaysia to China were restricted, hence the supply shortage; and wholesale price increase. Pagani Design originally used the Miyota 8205 in their PD-1661, and PD-1639 watches. Then they switched to using the NH35A as it is more popular with buyers. They switched back due to the aforementioned supply shortage. San Martin had the same supply shortage problem, but decided to use the Epson YN55A which is well proven, as it has been used for several years in many Orient watches including the; Kamasu, Kano, Ray, Bambino. Orient call it the Calibre F6922, but it is the same as the Epson Calibre YN55A. (Seiko Epson Corporation own Orient). I prefer the NH35A to the YN55A, and 8025. The YN55A is equal quallity to the NH35A, and has hacking. However as you say, the 8205 lacks hacking which is a negative. Since these changes the supply of NH35A has increased in China, and the wholesale prices have dropped making it more viable to use them. However Pagani Design, and San Martin will most probably continue using the 8205, and YN55A, respectively; as they have already made batches of the cases, dials, and case backs, to suit these movements. Regards, #WR4K

@TheDiveWatcher

2 жыл бұрын

@@watchreviews4k thanks for the response. I had some quality control issues that arose with my Pagani 1667 and I had recorded a video earlier that I have not uploaded and not sure if I will. I spoke about big businesses and there is a part of me that deep within wonders or this gave Pagani the opportunity to save on production costs short and long term and from what you said how severe this was that it gave them the true genuine reason to make their move because they demand for the NH35 could or will hit them hard moving forward so much so because of the standard of expectations they set along with the diver watchers out there who simply will not buy a piece unless it has a NH35, 9015 or of SW 200 or and of course by far the 2824 and hacking playing such a major factor then name brand recognition or is so at seemingly here within and amongst the dive watchers here who will walk at all costs steer clear of anything other than the movements mentioned above but at the same time the world and times are undergoing changes that none of us during our lives have ever encountered before so its truly hard for me to get a read and even with the research I enjoy and my professional background being in part market analysis and market valuation, I am writing blindly and by what my gut insight feels rather than enough data extracted for me to see what the writing on the wall actually interprets to say and my words come out by the energy I feel and take in but I have always written that way but its so hard to stay with it long enough for my words can say with certainty.

Nice Watch. Thanks

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Vincent. Regards.

Good review, as I mentioned in another video, you need to try this model with the other 5-link seamaster homage bracelet that they are now doing, it will make it disappear on the wrist. They will probably send you one for free with your following, or if not around 20gbp I would think. Far far better bracelet than this way too bulky and heavy one!

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards.

A very well done video!

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Giorgia. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards.

Love it, currently giving one away over on my channel!

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Regards.

The aesthetic of this watch is really beautiful as it captures the Seamaster looks. However, the bracelet on this watch is bad. It doesn't articulate that well and is sharp on the underside of the milled clasp. Bezel action is bad like you stated. My PD-1667 also doesn't align at the 12 o clock position. Maybe QC control is not as good although I specifically asked them to make sure to send me a watch with aligned bezel. That is one thing I cannot unsee. The printing of the logo/branding, minute track is not crisp and needs a bit more paint. The lack of the AR coating is also a bummer as it could have made the textured dial "pop out". The lume also doesn't last well and is mediocre at best. There is also a stain on the rotor of my watch (can be easily fixed though). Unscrewing of the crown felt gritty/grinding. Winding is typical of any Seiko movement. That said, overall this watch is aesthetically pleasing. And they ticked a lot of boxes in the specs department (domed sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, etc.) But a lot of the cost cutting can be seen in the finishing/bezel action/bracelet/etc. and I understand that. This is a $130 watch after all. If you're buying this watch, buy it for the looks and get the model with the silicone strap.

@watchreviews4k

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Cedric. Congratulations. Excellent choice. Wear yours in good health. Regards, #WR4K

Is it possible to change the clasp? Im afraid not gonna fit ( no holes in the clasp to adjust)

@watchreviews4k

9 ай бұрын

No. Regards, #WR4K

Hello! Do you know if it's possible to buy only the bracelet of this wristwatch? Please, if you know, send the link. Thanks a lot

@watchreviews4k

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. It is not possible to purchase the bracelet separately. Regards, #WR4K

Great review.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Joseph. Glad you enjoyed it. What do you think of your PD-1661? You can change the polished centre links to brushed easily using a ScotchBrite pad (green back of a washing up sponge). I will be reviewing the new PD-1672 soon; I have the blue, and black versions coming. I am also looking forward to trying this Glidelock clasp on my PD-1661. They are slightly longer than the Pagani Design clasp. Regards. www.aliexpress.com/item/32831036552.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.56ce59b1IYCfxY&algo_pvid=c7ba930b-83c4-4e39-9127-b188d39e6882&algo_expid=c7ba930b-83c4-4e39-9127-b188d39e6882-9&btsid=0bb0624516106336962966529eef5c&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_%2Csearchweb201603_

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

I also bought a Bliger Explorer (see link below), and another PD-1661 black. I am going to fit the PD-1661 dial, hands, movement; into the Bliger to make a Pagani Design Explorer. I am also hoping I can fit the Pagani Design clasp on the Bliger bracelet. Regards. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001380092365.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.59d04c4dzKUk3J

@josepha5

3 жыл бұрын

@@watchreviews4k Hello. I am really enjoying the PD 1661, and really dont mind the center polished links but probably will buff them out or purchase another bracelet from strapco. Yes, that Bliger is really nice. May purchase that one also. Looking forward to the review on the 1672. Cheers, my friend. I'll keep you posted..

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

@@josepha5 Glad to hear you are enjoying it. I am really enjoying mine on the NATO strap; but will put it back on the bracelet when the Glidelock clasp arrives. I think they also look good on a rubber strap. I like the look of the strap below, as one can fit the Pagani Design clasp to it. (They sell the rubber strap with/without the clasp). Regardss. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001406252192.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.50a15ebd731Z20&algo_pvid=827f34a3-1e00-4bd5-bfef-127501ef2223&algo_expid=827f34a3-1e00-4bd5-bfef-127501ef2223-0&btsid=0bb0622a16110498051704244ef7dc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

@josepha5

3 жыл бұрын

@@watchreviews4k That is a nice strap. After watching one of your videos on your Vostok, I actually purchased a Barton Elite Silocone strap for my SKX 007. But I will check out this one. Thx

Excellent review! I got mine last week and have the rubber/nylon strap. Overall, I love it. 100% agree with you about the bezel and how it moves a little more than I would like. Out of curiosity, you said this was a great low-end tier homage. What would you consider a mid to higher tier homage? Besides obviously buying an actual Omega. 🤓

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Brian. Congratulations, they look lovely on the strap. Currently there isn't a mid-tier Seamaster homage I can recommend. Partly due to the popularity of the Steinhart Ocean One 39 ceramic being such a popular mid-tier Submariner Date homage. Steinhart dominate the Swiss mid-tier for homages, therefore it would be hard for another brand to make a SW200-1 powered Swiss made Seamaster homage for under 500 Euro to be competitive with the Ocean One 39. The other factor is Seamaster 300 Bond watches can be bought on eBay for 1500-2000 Euro. So collectors that like the Seamaster would prefer to buy an original Omega, rather than mid-tier homage. There just isn't the same demand for a mid-tier Seamaster homage as there is for a mid-tier Submariner Date homage. If the demand existed in the market for a Swiss made mid-tier Seamaster homage I think Steinhart would have made one. Regards.

Somebody here on the site mentioned that pagani changed the end links? They put female now?

@wngimageanddesign9546

Ай бұрын

I just bought one, NO, it's still a male end link.

May I know the watch dial diameter , can it fit 28.5mm dial ?

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Owen. Yes, it uses the standard Seiko NH35A dial size; 28.5mm. Regards, #WR4K

Would like to know how thick is the metal strap?

@watchreviews4k

9 ай бұрын

I don't know. Regards, #WR4K

@wngimageanddesign9546

Ай бұрын

The Pagani Design 3-link band is 20mm at the lugs, tapers to 18mm at the clasp. And is 5mm thick.

I have the same watch, only did wind it and it going 5 minutes ahead. Please help

@watchreviews4k

Жыл бұрын

It could be magnetised. Try demagnetising it with a demagnetiser (see link below). Regards, #WR4K www.amazon.co.uk/Demagnetizer-Professional-Degaussing-Magnetizer-Mechanical-Watch/dp/B0B24PVQ4Y/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1WQ7ZENG7V2EP&keywords=watch+demagnetizer&qid=1668467217&sprefix=watch+dema%2Caps%2C168&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

@Ajajambo

Жыл бұрын

@WR4K thsnks. How is it possible, I just took it out of the box an hour ago brand new?

@watchreviews4k

Жыл бұрын

I don't know how your watch became magnetised. Regards, #WR4K

@Ajajambo

Жыл бұрын

@@watchreviews4k is it possible that it’s a defect rather than magnetised? 🙏 I was looking forward to this watch and now I am totally out off.

@watchreviews4k

Жыл бұрын

I can't answer that until you have tried demagnetising it. If it still runs fast after, then the movement needs regulating. Regards, #WR4K

Is it ok after 3 year and I wonder if it good quality

@watchreviews4k

3 ай бұрын

I sold it after the review. Regards, #WR4K

Nice video, where did you order the watch?

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. I received the watch directly from the Pagani Design factory. Regards. www.pagani.design/product/pagani-design-pd-1667-blue-seamaster/

@user-kv2ho4nq5m

3 жыл бұрын

Good afternoon! Please tell me why here on the video the tip of the second arrow is red and on the picture is white and on the official website is white?

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-kv2ho4nq5m Thank you for watching. There are two different versions. One has a red second hand, one has a silver second hand with red tip. Regards.

@user-kv2ho4nq5m

3 жыл бұрын

@@watchreviews4k good afternoon! Thank you very much for the answer. But I contacted the support group on the official website and they replied that this watch was only delivered with a red second arrow tip. Can you tell me how to understand this? Does the watch with a silver second arrow mean that it is not the original??! Thank you!

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-kv2ho4nq5m Some resellers on Aliexpress are offering the blue dial PD-1667 with a red second hand (see link below as an example). Some resellers are offering it with a silver hand with red tip. Both are original. Regards. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001813241745.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3344524eqW8LFk&algo_pvid=1f4bfe75-9315-44b9-bd73-10572bc9afb4&algo_expid=1f4bfe75-9315-44b9-bd73-10572bc9afb4-20&btsid=0bb0623016114936978105803e8054&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

For a little bit more one can buy "San-Martin-Top-Quality"... This watch is not really cheap... and then Cost-Cutting? Hm.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Achim. Regards.

Nice review, however your verdict is quite harsh IMO, you're asking too much for a $100 watch.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Blake. Glad you enjoyed it. Regards.

@cedricduyongco

2 жыл бұрын

Actually his verdict is just fair. I actually found more faults in the watch but that is just me. Even though I understand it's a $100 watch, as a watch reviewer @Watch Reviews 4K, should still point out the negatives. All in all, this watch is aesthetically pleasing and ticks the specs (domed sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel) but also did a lot of cost cutting to make it hit the $100 mark. I would have preferred they stick to mineral crystal and aluminum bezel then improved on the fit and finish of the watch. But that is my preference, other people have other preference. So that's that. But basically I believe the video was fair if not being a bit kind to the watch.

90 click unidirectional, not 120 like they advertise.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. This piece has a 120 click bezel. Regards.

@thebreadwentstale

3 жыл бұрын

@@watchreviews4k Man, they really screwed me then, my lume pip is off center, bezel is only 90 click, bezel gets stuck around the 9 and 3 and requires quite a bit of elbow grease to rotate.

@watchreviews4k

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebreadwentstale Sorry to hear that. Early versions of the PD-1677 were 90 click, then they changed to 120. Unfortunately poor bezel action is common with both versions. Regards.

Maybe try the watch in water to see if it's actually waterproof. It's Probably sapphire coated not sapphire glass or even synthetic sapphire .

@watchreviews4k

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Neil. Pagani Design use sapphire crystal in the front, and mineral crystal in the exhibition case back; in all their watches. The watches with exhibition case backs are tested to 100 metres water resistance. The watches with solid stainless steel case backs are tested to 200 metres. Therefore I do not need to "Maybe try the watch in water to see if it's actually waterproof". Regards, #WR4K