"Pacific 231" 1949 movie: Jean Mitry-music: Arthur Honegger original !

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  • @jslasher1
    @jslasher110 жыл бұрын

    Possibly the best ever piece of classical music depicting a railway locomotive. It's a classic.

  • @jimrogers5774

    @jimrogers5774

    10 ай бұрын

    Not as good as the English Coranation Scot!

  • @simonf8902
    @simonf89022 жыл бұрын

    A hidden gem. With marvelous film and music. The great Andre Chapelon Pacifics.

  • @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too. I would buy 3.1192 soon.

  • @francommejoel2572
    @francommejoel25722 жыл бұрын

    Fenêtre sur un passé tout proche...qui nous manque...Remarquable documentaire sur la vapeur ! Et quelle bande son !

  • @ralfschumacher1648
    @ralfschumacher16482 жыл бұрын

    Phantastisch umgesetzt. Die perfekte Pacific für Honeggers Meisterwerk! Großartiges Gesamtkunstwerk!

  • @stevenr.schmidt8011
    @stevenr.schmidt80119 жыл бұрын

    A crossing of two of my life loves - trains and symphonic music! Bravo! At Cannes in '49 no less. Think about the cameras they had to hang off the wheels of those trains!!

  • @jefflpanther
    @jefflpanther4 жыл бұрын

    “Stanley said Pacific 231 was one of the most perfectly edited, if not the most perfectly edited films, he had ever seen. Not only that but also the way Mitry melded the cutting with Honegger’s music. He thought it was a knockout. “I’d seen the film just before going to work for Stanley and was always going on about it. He wanted to see it and I borrowed a 16mm print from the BFI.” - Anthony Frewin, assistant to Kubrick

  • @lawrencelewis2592
    @lawrencelewis25922 жыл бұрын

    I was in music class in the 8th grade in about 1967. The teacher played this and called a Pacific 231 " A kind of train." My friend George, also a train buff looked at me and we both raised our eyebrows at our ignoramus of a teacher.

  • @paulcaswell2813
    @paulcaswell2813 Жыл бұрын

    Even without the spectacular music, this film contains the finest footage of the great 231E that I've seen anywhere.

  • @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    Жыл бұрын

    2 are now saved for posterity. It's actually a Nord Chapelon Pacific @Paul Caswell.

  • @algo3766
    @algo37668 жыл бұрын

    Les caméras "embarquées" sont très efficaces et pour l'époque ce devait être un véritable challenge. Reste l'incomparable musique d'Honneger, magistrale !

  • @LShackley
    @LShackley13 жыл бұрын

    We watched this in music class in the1960s. I could still remember some of the great shots!

  • @petrj7679
    @petrj7679 Жыл бұрын

    Beauté technique, beauté musicale, beauté cinématographique ! BRAVO!

  • @tattaketakeyann
    @tattaketakeyann4 ай бұрын

    I don't know why but I watched this so many times as a kid. That was like 12 years ago. And right know 2024 I finally found it.

  • @MontSteve36
    @MontSteve3611 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this posting. I've not seen this film in oh so many years. We used to watch it at the Twin City Model Railroad Club in Saint Paul. And I had my own copy of it on 16mm sound film. I thought that I would never see again. Again thank you.

  • @MGDriver99
    @MGDriver9914 жыл бұрын

    The Old Man told me about this years ago. What an utterly fantastic piece of cinema.

  • @DacalLP
    @DacalLP4 жыл бұрын

    this was watched in the 60s in School.. Im in 2020 and have to listen to this

  • @perplex1299

    @perplex1299

    4 жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @datuna9989

    @datuna9989

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @user-bu6cn5wd1w

    @user-bu6cn5wd1w

    3 жыл бұрын

    same :))

  • @herheartbeats5727

    @herheartbeats5727

    5 ай бұрын

    At least we now have got the Net so that anything happening before (whatever ideological "epoc") cannot be erased for everybody because "The Party" said so !

  • @marcdelente2456
    @marcdelente24562 жыл бұрын

    La pacific 231 la plus belle locomotive du monde la plus performante a tracter les trains de légende. La 231 un chef d oeuvre sur rail c etait le rêve de tout mecaniciens et chauffeurs titulaires de la conduire .

  • @johnandmarylouwilde7882
    @johnandmarylouwilde78822 жыл бұрын

    I was studying at the Alliance Francaise in Paris when Honneger died. TV news played this film as a tribute.

  • @NorbertRoll
    @NorbertRoll6 жыл бұрын

    Simply wonderful.

  • @timrichards6997
    @timrichards69974 жыл бұрын

    A great film, fantastic locomotives and the music is fab

  • @schaerffenberg
    @schaerffenberg4 жыл бұрын

    The last time I saw this was as a freshman in a music appreciation class at Southern Illinois University, 1962 or '63. "Pacific 231" is probably the most literal musical composition ever written. As an experiment, the piece should be heard by someone who has never encountered it before and knows nothing about it: what would such a person make of this work?

  • @Kouyanski
    @Kouyanski5 жыл бұрын

    Des machines et des hommes qui ne sont maintenant plus de ce monde. Nostalgie.

  • @bloodyhell8201

    @bloodyhell8201

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hon hon oui oui baguette

  • @michelp.vanwelkenhuyzen2623
    @michelp.vanwelkenhuyzen26234 жыл бұрын

    Extraordinaires prises de vue !

  • @palomino73
    @palomino7310 жыл бұрын

    A masterpiece in the arts of film and music; sheer drama on rails - womderful ! I hope I find it with a better sound-quality though... Thanks a lot for posting this gem !

  • @rodneygreenberg3840
    @rodneygreenberg38409 жыл бұрын

    The original mono soundtrack has only been recorded on the left-hand audio channel. Would have twice the impact on stereo speakers if it been dubbed also to the right channel, which is silent. Switch your stereo playback to "mono" when viewing to get the full effect.

  • @xxxItchyxxx
    @xxxItchyxxx12 жыл бұрын

    Great! Großartig! Magnifique! :) Tolle visuelle Umsetzung der Musik, kongeniale Leistung! Bin ganz begeistert. Vor allem die Filmtechnik, Kamera und Schnitt, super gemacht! Danke für's Hochladen!

  • @jean-marcaudirac2329
    @jean-marcaudirac23295 жыл бұрын

    Dommage qu' il n' y ait pas plus de commentaires en français... Ce qui dénote un intérêt manifeste de ceux qui le parlent pour la chose ferroviaire ! Ceci-dit, je suis tombé sur ce bijoux par hasard, n' étant pas un fan de vidéos... Superbe !

  • @jeangabin2047

    @jeangabin2047

    4 жыл бұрын

    C quoi. Un film ou un documentaire

  • @esajuhanirintamaki965
    @esajuhanirintamaki9652 жыл бұрын

    Wunderschön! Wie ich die Dampflokomotiven liebe!!!

  • @durandjeanpierre8282
    @durandjeanpierre82829 жыл бұрын

    Souvenirs,souvenirs.J'avais 6 ans.

  • @WBDE
    @WBDE11 ай бұрын

    I have been privileged to have worked with steam locomotives and I believe that others like me realize and understand how these machines take on a life and personality all their own. The makers of this film also have that understanding and have married their film and this outstanding accompanying music to share with us the beauty and strength of these machines.

  • @sandhillguy
    @sandhillguy11 жыл бұрын

    This piece is mentioned in Dr. Oliver Sachs' book "Musicophilia" about the neurology and psychology of music.

  • 10 жыл бұрын

    Otro emblemático ejemplo de música descriptiva en el siglo XX y muy bello acompañamiento visual.

  • @ferrochinabisleri1587
    @ferrochinabisleri15873 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive!

  • @AliAli-md1co
    @AliAli-md1co4 жыл бұрын

    Im 98 Yers old

  • @justin10347
    @justin1034713 жыл бұрын

    It's a great song love it

  • @arvensaunders8052
    @arvensaunders8052 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Amazing, fantastic, marvellous TECHNOLOGY! Yes, but from where we are today, crude- and irresponsible in where we reach for energy to power our movement of people and freight. Marvellous technology for that time!

  • @alannair44
    @alannair442 жыл бұрын

    AMAZING editing!

  • @staplerpit1
    @staplerpit12 жыл бұрын

    Great, the end with the breathing of the locomotive`s air pump...it seems to belong to the movie!

  • @necistakrv
    @necistakrv11 жыл бұрын

    wooooooooow!!!!! this is amazing!!! the best interpretation ever!!!

  • @websupervisor708
    @websupervisor7086 жыл бұрын

    Filmé dune façon très moderne, j'aime ce montage très dynamique, sans paroles ni commentaires, rythmé par la musique. Pas étonné de cette récompense.

  • @javierdominguezorellana9101
    @javierdominguezorellana910111 жыл бұрын

    And the oscar goes to... The train. :/

  • @philippejenvrin2741
    @philippejenvrin27412 жыл бұрын

    Elle se déplacer à 120 km/h de moyenne ! Impressionnantes images et musique appropriée !!

  • @herheartbeats5727

    @herheartbeats5727

    5 ай бұрын

    Si la 231 originale avait déjà cette performance, alors c'était tout à son honneur ! Le modèle revu par Chapelon, a du être BRIDE (!!!) à 130 km/h...parce que c'était la vitesse maximale des lignes de la SNCF à l'époque. Plusieurs modèles de record/d'essai ont dépassé les 200 km/h.

  • @fairjana
    @fairjana4 жыл бұрын

    2020г. карантин и дистанционное обучение,задание по музыке привет)

  • @dad9447
    @dad94479 жыл бұрын

    Es una gran producción para una música muy buena!!!

  • @josemanuelballesterosperalta
    @josemanuelballesterosperalta10 жыл бұрын

    Excelente video de la composición del poema sinfónico de Honegger (año, 1923) y llevada a la pantalla años después. Gracias a Wouter Van Belle por subir este excelente video.

  • @MewenWsh

    @MewenWsh

    8 жыл бұрын

    +José Manuel Ballesteros Peralta t ez mek

  • @armandssurins3364

    @armandssurins3364

    Жыл бұрын

    A.Honegger : 2:40 !

  • @renecapron920
    @renecapron9202 жыл бұрын

    qu'elles belles prises de vues pour cette loco bravo et le musique vas bien avec

  • @christineamat1589
    @christineamat1589 Жыл бұрын

    Magnifique!!!

  • @sangeovr
    @sangeovr2 жыл бұрын

    This is definitely one of the movies of all time

  • @charles.j.mandon5602
    @charles.j.mandon56024 жыл бұрын

    Just think everything we just saw in that film is gone now ,scrapped ,tore down ,changed somehow or deceased and time moves on ,,pretty soon we will all be gone .

  • @bloodyhell8201

    @bloodyhell8201

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which yet survives Stamped on these lifeless things

  • @lucdevriese718
    @lucdevriese7184 жыл бұрын

    L'ambiance ! 🚂

  • @tomumholtzsr2529
    @tomumholtzsr25299 ай бұрын

    I think this is the best presentation of this iconic video. For context, try reading Stephen Spender's 1939 poem "The Express" just before watching the film. At about 2:30 min, you can hear/see/feel the first lines of the poem but, after that, Honegger and Mitry are on their own and not trying in any way to follow "The Express. And yet, at the very end, the two seem to come back together - in repose. I imagine most people who read this know that "231" is the European way of designating the locomotive classes. They just count the axles and not the wheels so a 2-3-1 over there is a 4-6-2 here. One of the nicest 4-6-2's in operation today is number 425 of the Reading, Blue Mountain, and Northern. It's called a "light" Pacific which means that it was designed from the outset for passenger work. Check it out.

  • @srothbardt
    @srothbardt Жыл бұрын

    Good film. Interesting.

  • @adrianpucek5695
    @adrianpucek5695 Жыл бұрын

    Super song

  • @pablocramer9669
    @pablocramer966911 жыл бұрын

    As far as I remember it's : L'orchestre de la Suisse Romande.

  • @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
    @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын

    I'm Using this for the memorabilia video.

  • @xaviertruphemus291
    @xaviertruphemus2915 жыл бұрын

    magnifique

  • @farafim
    @farafim11 жыл бұрын

    un déni générique!

  • @NeuroActing
    @NeuroActingАй бұрын

    I wonder if John Williams had seen this film before a young Steven Spielberg asked him to score a film about a shark…

  • @pet0002
    @pet00029 жыл бұрын

    Merveilleux!

  • @MewenWsh

    @MewenWsh

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Pierre Bouchard ta gueule

  • @noah.8635

    @noah.8635

    8 жыл бұрын

    tg

  • @noah.8635

    @noah.8635

    8 жыл бұрын

    +AXTYR tg

  • @chen1784

    @chen1784

    8 жыл бұрын

    +noah posay ptn noah t'as pas vie..

  • @noah.8635

    @noah.8635

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jean prd lol

  • @yanvar1960
    @yanvar19609 жыл бұрын

    Great !

  • @blazelm2639

    @blazelm2639

    8 жыл бұрын

    +A. Penkina tg t ez

  • @dsinnn
    @dsinnn11 жыл бұрын

    Gives a feeling of motion. Enough to throw up.

  • @iamkwk
    @iamkwk11 жыл бұрын

    I have always thought that the title referred to a Pacific series 231 (or 462) locomotive. not any particular engine. Honegger wriote the music in 1923 and Pacific series locomotives were very common all over the world

  • @hugos5114

    @hugos5114

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed, but from Mitry's standpoint the best representation of pacifics he had were these

  • @iamkwk
    @iamkwk11 жыл бұрын

    You are correct. I should have said the largest mass produced locomotive.

  • @BrianMonroe7890
    @BrianMonroe789013 жыл бұрын

    First of all, Leonard Bernstein's rather curious rendition of Roy Harris Third Symphony makes him a questionable yardstick for authenticity of performance. Second, this IS the score (buy it - I did) - it is just that in order to fill out some additional time, some sections are repeated twice over. Finally - Honneger conducts this film (read the credits). He obviously wrote the changes into the score himself or approved them. It doesn't matter if it doesn't follow the published version.

  • @pierrequideau9579
    @pierrequideau95798 жыл бұрын

    A une époque où prendre le train faisait rêver !

  • @MewenWsh

    @MewenWsh

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Pierre Quideau tg t ez

  • @herheartbeats5727

    @herheartbeats5727

    5 ай бұрын

    Je me rappelle encore les déplacements matinaux vers le lycée (il y a bientôt 30 ans !) à l'époque les gares françaises n'étaient pas encore devenues une espèce de terrain de chasse pour fous adeptes du film "Birds of Prey" (pertes humaines incluses) et le spectacle le plus impressionnant étant de voir les BB diesels se "réveiller" en crachant le feu telles des dragons que même les effets spéciaux actuels n'arriveraient pas à simuler...UNE HEURE pour le départ d'une loco vers l'arrimage d'un train (heure pendant laquelle elle reniflait, crachait, criait, hurlait, et "lance-flamait" tout son content, bien sur)

  • @hosdo
    @hosdo4 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or one of the main riffs sound like a 2-3-1 wheel arrangement passing over an unequal rail joint...

  • @xyoh4nnx
    @xyoh4nnx11 жыл бұрын

    cool

  • @Anabiatrix1
    @Anabiatrix110 жыл бұрын

    Could anyone tell me how can I find Mitry's film called 'Images pour Debusy'?? Was it lost or does it still exists?

  • @TheOntguy
    @TheOntguy11 жыл бұрын

    manifique!

  • @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
    @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын

    In Flik's Musical Adventure At Disney's Animal Kingdom, scene 3:15 - 3:17 is shown.

  • @RhythmAddictedState
    @RhythmAddictedState11 жыл бұрын

    2:45 Lil' shortcut to the music! :)

  • @kitchenjail3546

    @kitchenjail3546

    4 жыл бұрын

    2:45

  • @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
    @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын

    I'll put the credit of this video.

  • @Pershingtank
    @Pershingtank11 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a Paris-Orleans 3500 rebuilt by Chapelon.

  • @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    Жыл бұрын

    It's actually a Nord Pacific. The bad news is that this one's scrapped. The good thing is that 2 survived.

  • @musicianinseattle
    @musicianinseattle4 ай бұрын

    I wish the audio could be remastered…the music is a half-step too high.

  • @bupindersingh7592
    @bupindersingh75924 жыл бұрын

    Why I watch this till the end ? But enjoyed

  • @roberacevedo8232

    @roberacevedo8232

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because of the music? Pacific 231 was a huge success and inspired Prokofiev to do his symphony 2

  • @DacalLP
    @DacalLP4 жыл бұрын

    i only hear it on the left tho :/

  • @dexterlee569
    @dexterlee5692 жыл бұрын

    Music????

  • @Zenil_arts
    @Zenil_arts4 жыл бұрын

    Metric montage or ritmic?

  • @artsav22
    @artsav227 жыл бұрын

    2:41

  • @bobmao7848
    @bobmao78484 жыл бұрын

    Le film me donne le tournis, mais la 231 était elle si bien que ça ? Je pense plutôt à un film publicitaire.

  • @hugos5114

    @hugos5114

    2 жыл бұрын

    les 231 E étaient en effet de très bonnes machines, et les meilleures Pacific que la France a connu.

  • @robinpierre4167
    @robinpierre41675 жыл бұрын

    L'antécédent "classique" au Trans Europe Express de Kraftwerk, en somme...

  • @Majornou
    @Majornou11 жыл бұрын

    Preciós

  • @343kaka
    @343kaka13 жыл бұрын

    @JessicaFaerosi Well, B is for Bad.

  • @iamkwk
    @iamkwk11 жыл бұрын

    The Pacific 231 (or 462 as it is known here in the U.S. ) was the largest locomotive built.

  • @bobbybobby7943

    @bobbybobby7943

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Big Boy, the 241, the Chapelon 242 A1 were all bigger.

  • @user-hp3rm6yx4t
    @user-hp3rm6yx4t4 жыл бұрын

    님들아 한국인 댓 못 찾음? 저도 못찾음

  • @hyehyei_n

    @hyehyei_n

    4 жыл бұрын

    전 님 찾음

  • @annaokulowska5257
    @annaokulowska52577 жыл бұрын

    6:30

  • @drabcoat
    @drabcoat10 жыл бұрын

    OK, the shots of the trains are great, but what happened to the goddam music?

  • @thebadger7373

    @thebadger7373

    10 жыл бұрын

    Mr Hunter, If you get this will you please reply. Only here, and do not tag me with the REPLY feature or the + because I assure you I will find the post. I made a new circle and called it 'Questioning Minds' and checked only you in it to ward off, as you put it, "Keystone Kops" ""You seem to have attached yourself to them to attain some sad and illusory kudos. Like someone who is proud of being a member of the Keystone Kops.""

  • @pdxrailtransit
    @pdxrailtransit11 жыл бұрын

    I think I need a cigarette ;)

  • @dieAmondchoppoon
    @dieAmondchoppoon3 жыл бұрын

  • @br39161
    @br391619 жыл бұрын

    Music for psycho trailer , poor Pacific ...

  • @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    Жыл бұрын

    Now scrapped.

  • @ggc8630
    @ggc86303 жыл бұрын

    @Oranienschule

  • @michelcuvillier7738
    @michelcuvillier77384 жыл бұрын

    Félicitations pour ce super reportage , c'était un rapide Paris Lille ?

  • @nobuoka401
    @nobuoka40112 жыл бұрын

    appear nosebleed

  • @cl1mz980
    @cl1mz9804 жыл бұрын

    hello bvsk

  • @Pershingtank
    @Pershingtank10 жыл бұрын

    Unless it's Nord.

  • @hugos5114

    @hugos5114

    2 жыл бұрын

    they both are the same type of locomotive, yes.

  • @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    @TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hugos5114 Yep. This one shown did not run away from the cutter's torch. Meanwhile, it's 2 siblings 3.1192 & 3.1123 escaped the yard being preserved. 😃

  • @Johngalli.A
    @Johngalli.A5 жыл бұрын

    Diese sehr schön oh yeah nahui

  • @rextv4625
    @rextv46253 жыл бұрын

    Deutschland

  • @francoiseconan6234
    @francoiseconan623410 ай бұрын

    Cela ne nous rajeunit pas Petite j ai voyage dans ces trains a vapeur Quand la grosse machine arrivait je me cachais dans la robe de ma mère bisoùs Bisous😅

  • @stylusfantasticus
    @stylusfantasticus14 жыл бұрын

    The film is ten times better than the music which has no shape at all and forces the movie to reach an abrupt end.

  • @crymore420
    @crymore4203 жыл бұрын

    yo ... the audio is bad

  • @veliapustetto5068
    @veliapustetto50685 жыл бұрын

    Neo realisme!

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