This is the fight that introduced me to network fusion, also known as cheating

@idk-ov9oh

3 жыл бұрын

Me that played persona 5 on pc: network fusion? People? Whats that???

@dadunasu3558

3 жыл бұрын

@@idk-ov9oh cant be played on pc

@Kaijo-

3 жыл бұрын

@@dadunasu3558 he is most likely referring to emulation.

@justcallmejay2299

3 жыл бұрын

@@dadunasu3558 Genius.

@Laevatei1nn

3 жыл бұрын

@@dadunasu3558 genius

Ironic that merciless difficulty makes the fight easier

@roxasflores6797

4 жыл бұрын

How so?

@chry9353

4 жыл бұрын

They totally overlooked that fact that Weak/Crit/Tech x3 would give an advantage to those playing on Merciless when they restricted the All Out Attack.

@roxasflores6797

4 жыл бұрын

Nines ahhhhhh that makes sense, thank you^^

@sambyrd1207

4 жыл бұрын

For real merciless is easier than easy. I dialed it down that far i WAS NOT going to play story mode.

@luketwo1

4 жыл бұрын

@@sambyrd1207 I wish there was a harder difficulty, hard is a joke and merciless breaks the game into not being fun.

Haru: Literally just chokes Ryuji Nonchalant as all hell: You okay?

@andrewkon3364

4 жыл бұрын

The infamous Cloud Strife quote.XD

@presidentofidiots520

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair choking can sometimes sound like a cough

@rag1242

3 жыл бұрын

What even was that line anyway

@rag1242

3 жыл бұрын

@Salty Salmon Mo possibly, but I hope they don't give up on localizing P5 scramble, cuz I want that

Having Haru give the finishing blow, nice touch.

@jackbolitho7404

4 жыл бұрын

Never mess with a girl with an axe! kAbOoM

@aracuno8626

3 жыл бұрын

he gave Ann the final blow on kamoshida to so thats the 2nd time that happens

@exaltedfalcheon1793

3 жыл бұрын

BABABOOM

@saysaythegreat

3 жыл бұрын

Floof power.

@pandalenz6534

3 жыл бұрын

@@aracuno8626 Same with Yusuke on Madarame.

Merciless is weird in Royal. It's like they wanted to make the hardest mode possible, but the x3 weakness makes it way to easy for players who even somewhat understand using weaknesses and technical.

@aionicthunder

4 жыл бұрын

It’s the same way in P5 classic (although to a lesser degree there as boss fights are the true challenge in P5 and while 3 palace bosses involve weaknesses in Royal, P5 classic only has 1, that being this one)

@GoroGoroGoroAwome

4 жыл бұрын

It’s so easy just beat like 1 week ago to test for myself and surprisingly it was way too easy so Atlus basically broke this fight for merciless players

@kellyjohana516

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like Merciless difficulty resides on not messing up, not missing the attack and sneaking well even though the Shadows look like they have a third eye in the fucking back and I can never sneak on them cause the security level goes up too much.

@saintjiub8846

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrueXTrickster Exp and money gain are increased on merciless??

@taffmeister584

4 жыл бұрын

@@saintjiub8846 in comparison to Vanilla, it's been increased

"But nobody came" This sentence will become very popular, very fast. I can feel it.

@minefan6751

4 жыл бұрын

I sense crossover vibes

@rumblygoop

4 жыл бұрын

it already is with many games already using it like undertale

@kellyjohana516

4 жыл бұрын

It has the same vibes as the Pokemon Sun&Moon SOS battles.

@MohammadAhmad-sf6by

4 жыл бұрын

@@rumblygoop Wasnt undertale released before persona 5

@rumblygoop

4 жыл бұрын

@@MohammadAhmad-sf6by yes

This was the most obnoxious fight of the whole game and yet it's a joke on merciless. Either way, as Jose would say! Good job! Keep up the good work!

@CopyTon_cH

4 жыл бұрын

You have same profile

@madmangos5027

4 жыл бұрын

Why is it easier on merciless?

@Shinnouryu

4 жыл бұрын

@@madmangos5027 Weak damages are multiplied by 3 in Merciless.

@brody3160

4 жыл бұрын

@@madmangos5027 you do three times more weakness damage (along with crit and technical but weak is the important one in this situation)

@surelyyoujestin9338

4 жыл бұрын

Brody Would hard mode be harder than merciless for this fight specifically?

Funny thing about this fight, magic items make it a walk from the kitchen to your room, (can't really say park since we are indoors)

@steam-powereddolphin5449

4 жыл бұрын

You talking about using them for easy max Baton Pass chains? ;)

@Mopocrypha

4 жыл бұрын

@@steam-powereddolphin5449 you know it

@nobleradical2158

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't have concentrate or the heavy-damage elemental skills for this fight, so it was pretty much impossible on hard, even with the magic item baton pass strat.

@mohibkhalid1260

3 жыл бұрын

Literally the only thing that got me through this on hard mode

@Terumimi

3 жыл бұрын

@@nobleradical2158 i was struggling on NORMAL without them, so if that says anything about this boss fight then.....

This is a youtube channel from Phantom, unfortunately he got hacked, thats why this is the channel name now

They even turned off the chat on the hacked stream

The song for the battle makes me realize that I'm waiting for a P5S localized version announcement...

@username15th

4 жыл бұрын

I dont know if it is coming man. The best we can hope for now is english sub with Japanese VA

@JoelK615

4 жыл бұрын

Hifumi Best Girl what do you base that on? Why would it not be coming.

@username15th

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoelK615 saw something on Harry Type-C with an article saying it may only be a sub

@JoelK615

4 жыл бұрын

@@username15th that is sad. Thanks for the info though. I think I will still get it even if it is a sub

@username15th

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoelK615 yeah same

WOW. I heard so many horror stories about this fight, yet you made it look like a cakewalk. On Hard, no less, so there was no damage bonus from Merciless! Great job!

@ZeroAoAnimations

4 жыл бұрын

Having curse or psy items trivialize the chunky phase, concentrate + bossters trivializes it further

@viatrix5844

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZeroAoAnimations it's almost as if using the game's mechanics puts you at an advantage

@ZeroAoAnimations

4 жыл бұрын

@@viatrix5844 cuz the majority of people i see having trouble with the boss are those without psy attacks on joker, forget items can be used to raise BPass level or care about concentrate/charge at this level

@KtB45

3 жыл бұрын

Even with Psy attacks on Joker is struggled through the green boss phase. Using him and Haru, I was getting screwed by the guy he put the defense on. I screwed myself with not having a defense down trait for enemies trait on anyone. Couldn’t make one with the guillotine for Joker. It was just a total shit show. Finally beat it cause Futaba decided she’d show up and put an attack boost on.

@neturalumbrella6688

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, this fight wasn't that hard. Just had to use buffs and debuffs, items, accessories for weaknesses, baton pass to make attacks stronger and finally... triple down.

I love what you do with their voices!

@redback3

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly yeah the voices just give the game so much more depth. I really wish they did the same in the game. You’re an incredible editor and I hope you return!!!

I love how people are like "OMG, this fight is so tough on hard!" and then Phantom is like "Hold my Reaper."

“Power! Never mind- Daisoujou!”

The most important part of the fight: Pausing to let Haru deal the final blow to her jerk of a father

@Dastardly_Duo

3 жыл бұрын

With a gun no less lol. She really was the cause for his mental shutdown

"The hardest boss fight in the game." >Phantom makes a joke out of it. >Yeah this seems about right.

@pandalenz6534

3 жыл бұрын

Bosses: exist Phantom: y'all hear somethin'

I love the effort you put in your videos, such as the characters' voice lines edited in when you're in your menus or doing something. Makes the content feel more active!

they really did this to our boy, Phantom huh

Axe to grind is such a beautiful song, I thought you were going to meme and use mass destruction

@LoraLoibu

4 жыл бұрын

*inhale* *_BABYBABYBABYBABYBABY YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH_*

@ImSK11yaknow

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoraLoibu FEARS AWAKE ANGER BEATS LOUD FACE REALITY

Genius, genius! Back in a video covering this boss fight in Vanilla, I remember someone saying that " it felt like the Baton Pass was made specifically for this fight." I love how you really big-brained it with this. Charging Jokka at the start was really confusing, especially as you only used magics at the bots. Using those Gale Magatamas, Wind Bombs and Psy Magatamas to get free Baton Passes to give Joker [Dmg Up++++] and [Skill Cost -> 0] (with the addition of [HP Recover] from BP Rank 2) to obliterate the enemy is exactly what the game wants you to do. (Heck, Ice Magatamas can easily net mega-Tech score when fighting Yu in his Challenge Fight for easy rewards.) But then, I was blown away when you reached Excurobo. A Maziodyne to weaken him a bit... then grab a Crit with Mona's Miracle Punch and passing to Jokka... Only to slap it a charged Rising Slash with [Atk Up](Tarukaja), [Dmg Up](Rising Slash BP Boost), [Dmg Up](BP) and [Dmg +20%](Striking Weight)! Jeez, 2125 damage! (Bonus points for landing Crit with that Swift Strike too!) {Funny thing I wanna share: When Skull missed that Assault Dive, my head automatically heard him say "A-ara?", which was his miss quote in Q2. lol} And of course, Noir to deliver the final blow. Very very fitting.

@Johnjohnson2695

4 жыл бұрын

Why are you spelling it Jokka?

@NinjaWarotMCph

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrueXTrickster I unusually got a clairvoyant memory for games, for some reason. Hahaha!

@NinjaWarotMCph

4 жыл бұрын

@@Johnjohnson2695 JP reference, since they say Joker as "Jokka" in Japan.

@Johnjohnson2695

4 жыл бұрын

@@NinjaWarotMCph I mean we're all weebs here but doing that is just...

@pkoolaid4038

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, was the whole Akechi killing cognitive Joker plan the real plan or this?

Oh no you got hacked!

@jacksonbrickmedia939

Жыл бұрын

Someone contact phantom’s twitter I don’t have an account we have to let him know

Phantom is the king who brings Persona Games to life even more. After all, his showtime is far from over. Keep going, Phantom!

Phantom Is Still Alive People!

@kingsman5121

4 жыл бұрын

So we can still get perfect persona videos right please

That laugh from joker after okumara tried to send out a robot and nothing came has me in tears 😂😭

Flawlessly done~ I also love Haru’s little ‘Ba-Boom!’ 😂

I'm glad you're ok Phantom, you had me worried for a second. That aside how many attempts did this take?

@username15th

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrueXTrickster this was indeed a nice strat Phantom

@chry9353

4 жыл бұрын

I REALLY dislike the Okumura fight. The only reason why it was difficult is because it completely restricts a feature that you had the whole game. I have a few ideas on how to fix it like giving you the chance for an all out attack, or pulling a P3 and making it cost a turn for them to get up, but those solutions would make it too easy. Do you have any ideas?

@bluehoodie_gamer6867

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrueXTrickster but doesn't that take away from the symbolism of his (mechanically shitty) boss fight?

@bluehoodie_gamer6867

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrueXTrickster i guess it has more to do with the symbolism of him hiding behind his robots. Like how kaneshiro hides behind his bodyguards. But I do agree that there were too many robots. I feel like they should've made like a mandatory wave style fight( like in the boss battle) before you fight okumura (giving player time to get their shit together) and then just have a couple of tank robots and harubot and then okumura. It's like kaizo Mario levels without checkpoints. "If I can do it once, I can do it again, you're just wasting my time. At that point it's not difficult, just tedious."

@user-do1cv4is7s

4 жыл бұрын

You could use Ann and persona with shock boost (almost 100% chance to shock enemies) and just wipe them all with tech. Did it like that in first try:)

The only problem i ever had with this fight was that there are important character moments and dialogue that happen during the fight....with the timer still going. Once you understand the mechanics of this fight its a cake walk

This boss fight was so hard for the main reason that the green guys were way to bulky. even using max baton pass with Haru barely did a quarter of one health. I ended up using a dlc persona to beat the boss.

Ooof he got hacked

Amazing as always your one of the main persona you tubers made me wanna make KZread keep up the great work!!

What the hell did you do to Phantom's channel!

Oh shit your account is hacked

@Bagelboy4

Жыл бұрын

Noooo fucking hell

“The okumara fight is so hard on hard!” Phantom: Hold my beer.

@Notkotoyin

4 жыл бұрын

Okumura is actually really easy in Merciless since weak, critical, and technical damages are multiplied by 3

The teamwork in this video it’s just. IMMACULATE

I honestly really enjoyed this fight. It was the only one that gave me a real challenge on hard mode. Took me two tries on my playthrough, and I beat it with less than a minute to spare when my sister had me help her for her playthrough.

@JoelPerry1

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I feel like I'm the only one who liked this fight sometimes.

@mike-ns6sw

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously tho Every other boss fight i just stacked buffs and attacked with joker and won Even with Shido This fight actually made me think when and how i was going to use attacks First playthrough ngl it took me like 3-5 tries I lucked out when i saw a curse damage vile thing in my items which allowed me to max my baton passes

@CoverofWinter

4 жыл бұрын

@@mike-ns6sw I was stuck exactly like that too. The curse items are more plentyful early on than the psy ones and I only figured it out after reading that they had 2 weaknesses

@justaintfeelinit8742

4 жыл бұрын

Even tho i still think this boss is terribly design and an example of how not to make a boss fight. I gotta admit this was the only time i actually had to think in a boss fight in P5. I came up with a whole strategy involving Mona, Noir, and Magatsu-Izanagi. I forgot what it was but it was kinda elaborate. Every other boss can be summed up as raising your stats, Charge/Concentrate, then attack. The gimmicks each fight has doesn't really impact too much except the final fight in the game

@Soulferno

3 жыл бұрын

I'd trade a terribly designed difficult boss fight for an easy but well designed boss fight any day of the week. I still can't fathom why they made his boss fight worse than it was in vanilla. Its somehow more tedious than before, bordering on a war of attrition rather than a genuine fight

My boy/girl too clutch with it!!!!! The vids are amazing keep up the excellent work!!!

Ive watched this vid over and over cuz of how well Axe to Grind compliments the mood of the fight narratively

My good man. You never cease to amaze us! Even using not op Persona's. You're really legit and i love it.

@stea20

4 жыл бұрын

what do you mean? he had a daisoujou stronger than an average persona to have in shido's palace

@stea20

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrueXTrickster stats

@stea20

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrueXTrickster and by using those, you had a persona stronger than the person you would probably be usign shido's palace on average. thats what i was saying

Yay a new Phantom video!

This guy is my fav youtuber 100% the best youtuber, awesome video, and I feel like the game becomes a joke on merciless, and that’s literally the hardest the difficulties get

Good work, this was epic as always, u da best

super smooth okumura man, im excited to see what you do with the new fusion mechanics and i have some builds i would like to show you :)

Your additional character's quotes always get me!

The Nyancave used a Baton Pass+Triple Down strategy, and the damage was absolutely MONSTROUS thanks to Snipe+Cripple! I presume it was on Hard, too, since that's what they had the difficulty at when I checked early in the series... (Also because being cocky with the executive led to being 1-hit Big Banged. If that sounds gross, I don't even care).

I can't wait for all the dlc challenges coming your way😊those are going to be fun to watch

*one must strike the enemy while the iron is hot*

He made the okumura boss look so easy

i love your editing style bro its so good

@uirusux

4 жыл бұрын

More like cringe lmao

@barnfind8503

4 жыл бұрын

@@uirusux how?

Does phantom just have a huge folder of joker voice lines on his computer?

I was just thinking about when phantom would upload another video lol.

Really sad that another creator got taken and hacked what do they achieve it’s just stupid

@sven376

Жыл бұрын

he losing subs and videos aswell :(

Very nice music choice Phantom 👌🏼

My favorite part about this terrible fight is not even killing Haru but guarding her self destruct and winning.

This makes me feel stupid. I literally just spammed decarabia (however you spell it)'s megidola which did a ton of work, cause they're pure sponges against almighty.

I like how Joker talks more in one Phantom video then he does in the entirety of P5

Ily phantom

Dud you are a legend

I cannot believe I didn't think of Concentrate. Well bloody played

I really like this mini series

Noticed that clutch Miracle Punch. Nice.

I am glad I thought it was just me who had trouble with this fight. I am playing on Hard mode as well and this fight kicked my ass since I did not prepare enough

Fix Phantom's channel lmfao

Nice use of music, and plus this was fun to watch

Ayo the channel got hacked

@sven376

Жыл бұрын

yes its really sad, hes videos are getting deleted aswell

@SquibToast

Жыл бұрын

@@sven376 man I really liked this channel

I bought the game a week ago, played through on hard and was planning on doing a Merciless run after I beat it on hard… was not ready for my ass to get slammed by the Okumura robots.

@roadrunner2fastt

3 жыл бұрын

This boss is actually easier in merciless mode

My expectations for you during this fight were high. Yet somehow even then you passed them thousands of times over

Great video (as always)! What's your opinion on the final will seed item from (spoilers) palace? Instant knockdown seems cool, but since you can only use it in ng+ it feels unnecessary to me.

You took this boss and made it look easy. Kudos to you.

@noahp1124

4 жыл бұрын

It is easy

@supermariogamer5294

4 жыл бұрын

1 word: bullshit.

@noahp1124

4 жыл бұрын

@@supermariogamer5294 2 words: get good

@supermariogamer5294

4 жыл бұрын

Look, good for you for beating the boss in your first try, but for someone playing blind it is nightmarish.

@noahp1124

4 жыл бұрын

@@supermariogamer5294 I played it blind once too you know...it still wasn't that bad

Oh I'm so glad I'm not unusual for having trouble on this boss.

This fight is really fun when you fight it with light damage spells and items ☻

3:52 Ryuji: I like ya cut g

I love your videos, even if I have to watch them muted😂

Good to know you're still kicking phantom!

You make this look so easy

Those baton passes were SO GOOD!

On my 1st playthrough on Royal (played Vanilla as well) I played on hard mode but man once I got to Okumara's palace, I felt like I was about to have a mental shutdown. Took me like 12 tries to beat this crap.

on one end merciless makes this game incredibly easy at times but if you die on merciless frustration isn't even the word to begin to describe the emotion you go through

When I did this fight (on normal) I was so worried about the time limit that I spammed through all the dialogue lol, for good reason too, I ended with 3 seconds left

It's almost october I don't think I have left home since March...

if you dont have the right items or magic ready youre gonna have a bad time and if you let them run away and your order falls apart youre basically done for had to try several times with my unoptimized team, got a check mate many times, only a perfect run was able to get me through this

This video helped me deal with my PTSD

I came into this fight competely blind, not reading or watching anything about it, boy was I in for a fun time. 😅 Having to replay this game for the fourth time, he became one of my favourite bosses, because it lets me experiment with the battle system the most.

Nnnooooo!! My mans Phantom got hacked!

This fight during my first playthrough was the first boss battle that I beat on one try, and i was honestly disappointed. I didn’t have many issues with it considering I already had SP adhesives and stockpiled tons of curry and coffee before hand.

This is big-brained strats right here. A starting Charge to set up for the Executive robot 4 phases later, Concentrates into max Baton Pass chains via the elemental items into Mighty Gaze AoE, and then a Miracle Punch crit to Baton Pass for a boosted Charged Striking Weight Rising Slash. Holy shit.

Wait a minute. There weak to dark? Huh... didn’t know that

@destroyercreater98

3 жыл бұрын

Wilson Nascimento.... Dude. I know what they were weak to most of these. I just didn’t think that some of them were weak to bless or curse

@fagitocumaeda

3 жыл бұрын

Wilson Nascimento dark? You mean curse? 😭

Besides the final boss, I think this is the hardest in the game. It is so dumb. (probably because I didn't have the best personas but it is dumb that you get punished for not beating the robots in time and no all out attacks makes it pretty bad)

Welp and there goes another creator getting the channel hacked by some cryptocurrency shit

@sven376

Жыл бұрын

so fucking annoying, the videos are getting deleted too

@nikimnj7903

Жыл бұрын

They want us to give a shit about their bs yet pull stupid stunts like this

Nice video dude♥️ Can you do the old outro for us OG's plz

This fight took me forever on my first time playing. I even got a little worried in NG+ but level 99 personas definitely made it a lot easier

Hey Phantom, when you get the chance, could you do a damage test of Myriad Truths vs Black Viper/ Megidolaon/ Morning Star. It seems to be stronger than all 3

So...much...talking. For YHVH's sake, Okumura, shut up!

Man that okumura boss fight was hard...on my first playtrough,on my second one he dropped like a fly so nice job man! Btw the escape theme you used at the beginning is extended isnt it?I only find the 56 second version on youtube tho

Wow you made that look easy

I can't be the only one who did this fight first try, and was super confused why people were all up in arms. Edit: I did this with Kaguya Picaro with a full magic ability, amp, and boost passives while attack boosted and using charge on hard difficulty, so I blew threw it. Never stopped to note just how much of a pain it could be during a casual play through.

@yudistirafa8371

4 жыл бұрын

I've finished it first try, but with single digit minute remaining in Normal.

@Zenkai2718

4 жыл бұрын

I had no problems on my first attempt

@MaddMan621

4 жыл бұрын

I nearly did it first try, but the black robot's instakill attack got me the second time when I didn't guard

@ZeroPath5

4 жыл бұрын

It took me a few tries but I finished the boss in less than an hour. The fight isn’t hard if you know who to use and how to maximize damage between baton passes. Hit 3 robots with single target weaknesses, then down the fourth one with an aoe weakness, then baton pass for extra damage, preferably to joker to exploit more weakness.

@ferb2620

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I finished first try on normal with 10 minutes to spare.

I like that intro

So reading the comments and seeing it was easy on merciless actually makes me want to cry, I spent hours trying to beat this on hard.

How, just how...

Any preparations for this fight actually destroy this.