This is actually a great lineup for the panel IMO, Solid and grounded in real experience side from Chuck balanced on the other end by Hop and Brock who cover the fighting/conscription-age autist demographic block. Always enjoy long form discussions involving any of these 3 guests.

@Kinetic.44

4 ай бұрын

Imagine if Chuck had some backup in the form Bill Blowers it would be epic.

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

This discussion didn't seem like a Bill discussion

@Acute.

4 ай бұрын

Hope and Brooke ❤

Absolutely love brass and hop as a younger civilian dude they think how I do. Everyone together tied so much together and definitely brought new reasons and ideas to topics like light safety manipulation. Have always flipped safety off when the gun was up and looking through sights but going to try and do it once each target is identified now.

Had a delicious cup of Liber-Tea while watching. Great crew and great discussion 👌

Theres only two things guaranteed in life, Taxes and Brassfacts preambles

DREAM TEAM

@Kinetic.44

4 ай бұрын

Needs Bill Blowers and Dugan Ashley

Man I wanted to hear chuck explain why he likes the new nx8 and acro combo. Great content 👍🏻

As someone who also lives in the CDA area, you can drive directly from here to Boise on Idaho highway 95. It’s a straight shot. However, coming from SLC, it’s faster to go up highway 89 to butte, then over on i90 For Hop, it would be easier to drive up to portland, then on 84 to umatilla, then up 82 to Kennewick, then 395 to Spokane, then i90 eastbound to CDA My family is spread out in such a way that I can do all of those routes without a map

Can confirm, shot a 3 gun match today and the worst shooter in our squad (was eventually DQ'd for safety as well) shot a DD Mk12 with factory stock and grip. One of the best shooters in our squad (finished 3rd overall) had a DD with BCM grip and a CTR stock.

What congressman or general had stock in Insight???

@Hoplopfheil

4 ай бұрын

Yeah no kidding

@ZSC001

4 ай бұрын

The same ones that have stock/jobs at SIG

Chuck and the boys and old guys with revolvers (including BrYan) are my fav P&S videos

2:16:00 I've done that in class, both hitting the slide release too soon and also missing it entirely as my thumb came down, but because I was already bringing the muzzle back on target I just saw the backplate and couldn't see the slide still locked, just like Hop said. Now I just grab the slide like I would to rack it every time. Same deal stripping the rifle mag every time. Starting out back in the day with PMags in a polymer GWACS lower, they don't always drop free, so I now pull the mag every time.

perfect panel. Awesome guys putting out awesome content

Hearing a lot of the reasonings behind ergonomics and SOP was really interesting, a lot of questions I had were answered! Here in Switzerland the main SOP concerning safety manipulation is that if the rifle is shouldered, safety comes off. If the rifle leaves the shoulder safety comes on. Feels like one less thing to go wrong when taking the shot, especially since the sig 550 has a stiffer selector than ar's. But I understand the reasoning behind taking the extra time to identify before removing the safety.

@alexmaurice4274

3 ай бұрын

This is kinda what I’ve always thought and think is a fair sop, (happy to hear that being said that in some parts that’s sop as it shows this is up for debate) although after seeing this I’m going to think about it more/put my safety on more probably.

@lazylobster31

3 ай бұрын

@@alexmaurice4274 Glad to hear that! You should try them and see what works best for you. One of our teachers who has had a lot of experience overseas criticizes the American way of constantly playing with the safety. I'd imagine that it would be easy to forget to switch it off in a stressful situation, especially for someone who has not been in one and/or is poorly trained. Of course I haven't experienced that either so don't take my word for it. Testing it in force on force could be a good indicator. The other day the safety on my airsoft gun got stuck in the worst possible situation and it really threw me off haha. I also thought more about the idea discussed in the video of using the safety as a step to cross to make sure that it is a good shoot, but I feel like this could either be used as a crutch by some to compensate for bad trigger discipline or just be added as an automatism by drilling without the intended result of adding safety. To me it seems like having a systematic approach and putting the emphasis on the decision making and trigger discipline leaves a lot less room for error.

Surefire Turbo lights put out fewer lumens (but similar candela) than Cloud Rein 3.0, so the Turbo requires less current through the switch, which is why surefire switches work fine with surefire lights but bottleneck cloud

17:31 My goal when setting up a fighting rifle is so that my performance on various drills is very close between daytime optic, white light, IR laser aiming, and passive NVG aiming. There’s obviously a slight difference in performance, but my goal is to minimize it through a proper setup.

Great episode. Looking forward to some content from y'all shooting at Chucks!

Gereich even quoted hit percentages rate increases with the Elcan. Ive got bad eyes, i hate them as i can never get a clear picture and they are heavy but it certainly performed its duty while used.

Hoplopfheil and BrassFacts are the best

Love this lineup!

This is soup as fuck

Barely thirty minutes in and I'm considering the need for a switch system instead of using the buttons on my laser unit body and a tape switch for my light. Which would result in needing to unify the system on all my rifles... Oh, no.

@LIOX223C

4 ай бұрын

Restless rifle syndrome lol

3:00:57 meanwhile, cops magdump at a handcuffed, searched guy when an acorn fell on the car they locked him in.

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

Cops? You mean the single outlier.

@johnb.6468

Ай бұрын

He was black and was sending threatening pictures of a suppressor during a domestic. The only criticism I have is that between two cops mag dumping he wasn’t even hit.

so glad i drank an entire 40 oz

@Hoplopfheil

4 ай бұрын

Me too

@idkanymoredotexe832

4 ай бұрын

The mickeys hits hard

Came here for Brass and Hop, stayed for the based discussion from everyone 👍

To sorta touch on what Hop was discussing at 1:47:00, but with regards to drawing the line of what’s “acceptable” for modern rifles, maybe touch on the paradigm of NFA vs non-NFA owners? Maybe it’s just me spending too much time on gun forums and other parts of gun related media on the internet, but there seems to be this view that the current trend is to put a suppressed SBR as the apex of modern fighting rifles, when frankly even acquiring that puts you in a very small minority of gun owners already, leading me to believe such folks are living in a bubble that doesn’t seem to recognize that most gun owners are unlikely to ever own any NFA item in their lifetime.

@marcusborderlands6177

4 ай бұрын

I would generally agree, however suppressors in general are WAYYYY easier to stomach right now. people are getting individual approvals in less than 24 hours, with some being as long as a week... insanely fast compared to the old "maybe you will get it this year"

@Verdha603

4 ай бұрын

@@marcusborderlands6177 The counterpoint I would give to that is even a very fast turnaround time for approvals is counteracted by the population that is prohibited from buying and acquiring them. Based on population, 27% of the people are banned from buying and acquiring suppressors (unless your LE/mil) due to bans in 8 states and DC. Now combine that with the percentage of the population prohibited by their state from buying and owning SBR’s, normal AR’s and 11+ round mags, and that figure gets even larger. If you live in a free state where you can legally buy all the recommended items, more power to you, but if you live behind enemy lines in a growing number of states, being given the “well just get a suppressed SBR” advice doesn’t really help if they’re legally prohibited from getting them to begin with.

@mcgyver6910

4 ай бұрын

Why would you discount it as apex due to some not being able, or wanting to attain it?

Question for Mr. Pressburg, what about using a heat wrap on a Suppressor only for duty use? Primarily to reduce the IR signature during an engagement so you don't have a chemlight on the end of your rifle as you are moving to your objective after contact.

I had the first LED lamp from surefire on a gun in iraq. On a p60 body. It was like a phone flashlight. Maybe less. I still have it. I think it was called "KL3" or something. Useless. Id rather just eat lots of carrots, gives superior night illumination

Epic lineup.

That NX8 and Acro looks 👌 🔥

The other negatives with flow through is thermal and light signature when firing. They make a very pronounced flash under nods. Also, the sound to the shooters ear is lower but its sending all that down range much more than a normal can

@wh0car3s943

4 ай бұрын

The flow556k is still quieter at the muzzle than something like a Sandman S or SOCOM762

@MrCashewkitty

4 ай бұрын

@@wh0car3s943 I don't care about the sound to the shooter. I don't want a loud signature down range, a fireball from the muzzle and a light saber that can be seen after only a few shots....that lasts all night, even if you don't fire anymore

Great podcast! I’d really like to hear Chuck’s take on foreign Special Forces and capabilities (specifically China). I could be wrong but I’m not sure that’s been covered by P&S as yet. And it doesn’t seem to be something commonly spoken about by our former military and special forces personnel on podcasts. Just would be cool to here their impressions based on any training with foreign forces or specific to countering them…

With those two guys there, I will need a lot of cerveza to watch this show... Good thing...

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

You have 4 days to stock up!

How to reduce suppressor heat? There have to be some novel designs like added heat sinks, active cooling systems, ceramic coatings, fiberglass covers, etc.

@roflchopter11

4 ай бұрын

Some pressure reduction is achieved by pulling heat out of the gas. Not sure how significant this is with rifles, but with potato guns, it's substantial.

So I may be asking a question that has already gotten an answer. But piggybacking off of what was said by Matt and Brass Facts at 1:18:00. How best can the prepared citizen set up drills and run scenarios to best push themselves and their gear?

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

A combination of practice, training, competition with a goal in mind that is reinforced by your own performance metrics. Start recording your ability now to compare it to where you are going in the future.

@johnb.6468

Ай бұрын

Do you consider hunting and overnight backpacking to be useful training concepts? I see some value in it. Obviously you wouldn’t ruck and backpack, but you could use the same weight packs and pacing. Hunting requires learning to move in the woods in relative silence and stalking prey animals

Question, in these training facilities where you cannot go off safe until you have PID, are you just not allowed to use a Glock or any other handgun with no manual safety?

@marcusborderlands6177

4 ай бұрын

with handguns the general rule of thumb is your finger off the trigger is enough, at least what ive seen in police training ive helped in.

Underbarrel grenade launcher- you're larping. 😂

I'm busy assembling ammunition at Nosler listening to this and a love it. Also trying desperately to find the KZread for everyone. Then again I've been trying for all of 2 minutes soo...

Chuck, with the safety rule, how does that change when the person is using a sidearm like a Glock?

@alexmaurice4274

3 ай бұрын

I’ve always wondered this like keep it holstered till your in danger I suppose- but with this ruleset should u only draw when ur sure of a threat? That would make you a lot slower right? I mean slower with the rifle too with having the safety on but I understand the trade off on that. But as far as a pistol without a safety it becomes confusing especially when many r so for safeties but don’t care when it comes to pistols

@hajduk_lives

3 ай бұрын

The Glock has multiple safeties, if your finger isn’t on the trigger, your safeties are engaged.

What's the sop (3:06) with a pistol with no safety?

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

You don't point it at the unknown

@alexmaurice4274

3 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@PrimaryAndSecondary I never thought of the sop with safeties this like “aggressively” but wouldn’t a rifle be the same? Like with a rifle you also wouldn’t point it at the unknown as much as a pistol without safety? Or different because the pistol has a holster it “lives in”?

@MylesKillis

2 ай бұрын

@@alexmaurice4274you bring a rifle to a different party so it gets different rules

YES

Are there any "heat-resistant" rifle slings out there rn? Simple searches aren't really popping anything out.

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

Didn't Chuck bring up Blue Force Gear?

@nateo6806

4 ай бұрын

@@PrimaryAndSecondary I might have missed that, thanks.

@flavortown3781

4 ай бұрын

Magpul slings, bfg, vickers

@alexmaurice4274

3 ай бұрын

Are those like special slings or their standard models are heat resistant?

That Walther add read is hot garbage. Walther did NOT make the first blowback semiauto in 1908, see the FN 1900 or Colt 1903 for examples of the many pistols made prior.

there's labout $50k worth of pistols on the wall, at least what is visible.

Good discussion, less brass facts, more Chuck

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

Oh no! Brass brought up perspectives and insights that would not get attention or feedback otherwise. Brass provides a lot of value

@BrassFacts

4 ай бұрын

you're not wrong. I had a bit much, and didn't let others talk.

You can tell when the alcohol kicks in, fuck fucking fucked gun fucking… Rather entertaining, subscribed

Since everybody is such a nerd maybe yall can talk weight vs velocity and lethality vs fight stopping performance... about how it seems to be 2200fps that a projectile overcomes the viscous mass of human tissue and starts to cause hydrostatic shock ...vs like a .50 bmg sideways and wobbling even maybe subsonic can cause knockdowns and worse.

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

This was already recorded

@That_guy_Kyle

4 ай бұрын

@PrimaryAndSecondary watching anyway ...thanks for the heads up. Maybe that was a bit off a scientific question anyway...joined that forum ...literally just made a fb so don't give up yet...

@Kinetic.44

4 ай бұрын

They are all one in the same. Look at the 12 gauge foster slug, it's slow at 1600 fps yet that ounce of soft lead is one of the most destructive long arm projectiles that exist. Rate of exsanguination until the subject is no longer ambulatory is what determines stopping power out side of direct nervous tissue damage. Physically crippling by shattering bones of the pelvis is it's own form of stopping power. With shot placement and penetration depth being equal, a projectile that creates larger holes or wound cavity diameter will increase the rate of bleeding and crush more nervous tissue. More projectile surface area means there is more contact through various non homogeneous anatomical structures within the body. High rate of energy transfer such as with rapid projectile expansion also helps shatter bone rather than punch a hole through it when targeting the illiac crest.

@That_guy_Kyle

4 ай бұрын

@Kinetic.44 cool words man ... well I do know a bunch of small holes can be lethal but not as fast a fight stopper as a spinal bone shot or as immediately incapacitating as a cns shot...but in a 10 round state for now I'd just advocate a larger caliber when available...9 mm nato is a minimumal caliber in a pistol with any ammo. Although matt loves to throw the proverbial book at me about how the difference between pistol cals is negligible enough to not care...I still am tempted

@Kinetic.44

4 ай бұрын

@That_guy_Kyle A half-inch hole in a bucket lets out less water than a full inch hole in the same amount of time. Imagine that bucket is your liver or other such blood bearing organ. Not to mention intermediate barriers like windshield auto glass and sheet metal that can strip of a bullet of material, this poor weight retention leads to less penetration once it hits a soft target, the more mass a bullet starts with the less of an issue this becomes, heavier projectiles have more momentum. I would absolutely be rocking a .45 Super 1911 with 10 round mags in one of those unfortunate states.

I was promised 'tism

Brass goes to a match and complains about the rules of the match😂 Matches are matches. Not training. Not real life. So many of the things you do in a match are not “real life”. It’s a game.

@BrassFacts

4 ай бұрын

Depends on your perspective. I go to matches to become a better shooter, as do many others. Otherwise I'd loose my mind waiting all day to shoot for 2 minutes total. Though perhaps it's my fault in my lack of eloquance, I absolutely really enjoy all the matches I've gone too. I've even set up a full blown renegade match recently with about 15 people, 15+ targets per stage etc. I just think the rules need a slight tweak if we want them to emulate the tactical sphere a bit better.

@thepracticalrifleman

4 ай бұрын

@@BrassFacts rock on

Great cast! Hop is such an asshole! I love it! His character is like Sam Loudermilk. I'm sad that Brass and Hop didn't know about the mud, probably never having seen My Cousin Vinny. Hop was spot on on the abomination that is sinistral people. Kudos!

@Hoplopfheil

4 ай бұрын

Loudermilk spoke to me like few other teevee shows.

Love the cast. Although, can we give Chuck the ability to mute Hopp and Brass 😅. I feel like he had a lot to add, but those dudes just don't stop.

Brock’s takes on competition shooting is so bad.

@thepracticalrifleman

4 ай бұрын

He hasn’t thought it through. I bet if he viewed it more like a game, he’d be better off.

@BrassFacts

4 ай бұрын

Depends on your perspective. I go to matches to become a better shooter, as do many others. Otherwise I'd loose my mind waiting all day to shoot for 2 minutes total. Though perhaps it's my fault in my lack of eloquence, I still absolutely really enjoy all the matches I've gone too. I've even set up a full blown renegade match recently with about 15 people, 15+ targets per stage etc. I'm also dropping ~1,000 bucks to go to a night shoot coming up here in a couple days. I just think the rules need a slight tweak if we want them to emulate the tactical sphere a bit better. If you want to talk to someone that gets triggered and somewhat hates matches, Hops your man haha.

@alexmaurice4274

3 ай бұрын

I get it to a point- or at least should have a competition that is more for “training” rather than viewing killing a hostage as seemingly less important than speed

Good pod, but damn, Brass Facts has quite an ego.

@PrimaryAndSecondary

4 ай бұрын

How do you figure?

@Tusk_III

4 ай бұрын

@@PrimaryAndSecondary he acts like the smartest guy in the room, uses far too many analogies and generally talks too much.

@bulldaggerwatkins190

4 ай бұрын

Nah. He’s just thorough and mildly autistic.

@BrassFacts

4 ай бұрын

@@Tusk_III On one hand yeah, I should have let chuck/hop talk more. Sometimes I get in conversation mood, not podcast mood (where I forget I'm producing content others must listen too) On the other hand I was also the biggest driver to get Chuck and Hop to show up in the first place. So to get them, you must tolerate me. Think of it as penance.

@alexmaurice4274

3 ай бұрын

Lots of ppl have an acquired taste type of thing. That being said I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a touch of the “tism” like myself lol. But as far as ego goes I haven’t really seen him have an ego like pat McNamara, Lucas botkin, etc. maybe just don’t see it but of guntubers I’d say he’s actually one of the more tame as far as ego