Wow, a TON has changed since I made this video. I now have a dedicated arcade space in my backyard and I picked up more full sized cabinets. I also can't stop searching for more, the arcade addiction is real! Links below! I Built My Own Backyard Arcade Room: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rI5qz8qboKyyprw.html I picked up my holy grail arcade cabinet, Killer Instinct!: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZ6uzZKsZKe_hag.html

@jgvtc559

Жыл бұрын

I love the idea of getting a 1up and modding to my hearts content My questions lie in what pc parts do you slap on em what mobo and cpu are they are they ddr3 or ddr4 What kinda fps fidelity increases did your mk2 and blitz mods bring those boxes compared to stock Oh and what's the best aftermarket place to get mods for the 1up on

@jgvtc559

Жыл бұрын

Can we oc the pc and ram on.the 1ups Or even on a og can we hotrod the internals so everything is at max clock speeds

@typedeaf

6 ай бұрын

@@jgvtc559 Its not a PC, if you mean that in the traditional sense. Its running a ARM microcontroller with a video controller card. In a way, it is almost identical to a Raspberry Pi, without all the extra GPIO pins. 5 yrs ago, they were running a 32-bit ARM Cortex-A8 CPU, which is plenty powerful enough for any 2D rendering. Hopefully now days they are running the newer 64-bit Cortex mcu. Pandora's Box and Raspberry Pi are the most common replacements. Basically, anything that can run an Arcade ROM emulator, like Retro Pie. The very old Raspberry Pi 3B+ can be had for under $30 and houses the ARM Cortex-A53 64--bit, Quad-Core mcu. This would seemingly be an upgrade from what A1Up uses, but again, its probably overkill for what these games demand. As far as I know, very little is being done to reproduce the smooth, lag-free CRT look. There are products that claim to do this, but I dont think they are cheap.

For me, the only way I can own a small scale version of an arcade is to go the Arcade1up route. Price and space is a huge factor for me. I live in a condo. I was able to cram 10 Arcade1up cabs in my place and make an arcade room! I absolutely love these Arcade1up cabs! I was able to carry them inside and put them together by myself! They are all on refrigerator dolly’s so I can move them around. Golden Axe, NBA Jam, TMNT, Star Wars Atari, Star Wars Pinball, Outrun, Pac-Man, Ms. Pacman, Final Fight, Marvel vs Capcom. There’s just no way that I would have been able to live out my childhood dreams without Arcade1up! Im able to invite friends over and relive those times when we used to hit up the arcades after school. Endless fun for me!

@nerychristian

2 жыл бұрын

ATgames makes a great mulitgame cabinet

@parrishharris3008

2 жыл бұрын

Dude i know you happy because you made me flashback to my arcade days with my friends 👍✌.

@cknorris3644

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerychristian stock games on the ATgames cabinet are pretty bad. Also the cabinets are pretty boring so you wouldnt really want more than one in a room.

@italktoughonthenet

Жыл бұрын

THIS is the right attitude and perfect example of the audience and use case A1U serves.

@XR1000

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy your cabs man! Sounds like you have an awesome arcade room. That’s what its all about. Gaming with mates - not always online but in person as we did back in the day🕹️😃🔥

I own thirteen original arcade machines and two 1Up Arcade machines. When the 1Up machines were $399, it was a good deal. However, still not as fun as the original with the lighter cabinets, cheaper controllers, and whacky sounds at times but not bad for that price range. However, once it got to $699, I started to look for the original cabinet instead. I recently added a Street Fighter Championship series with dual 19" wells-Gardner monitors for $599. The cabinet needed some work to it but the monitor was perfect. It feels sturdy and the arcade monitor just gave it that 80's feeling.

@TonyDrecaps

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The prices are way too high now

@ericlewis450

2 жыл бұрын

How do you plug them up is it a regluar cord?

@johnyracercat

Жыл бұрын

I guess they have deals from time to time. I just ordered one for my granddaughter. $699 on sale for $399 at Best Buy. Looks like they are all on sale. I would buy any of them around that price, but for sure hesitate at $699.

@mikejonesnoreally

Жыл бұрын

They really *do* feel and look like toys. The sales make sense. No one's buying them at the intended price needed to make enough profit. i still don't see $699 worth of anything in any of their setups.

@jaythomas3224

Жыл бұрын

Don't the originals exceed the thousands . I was looking years ago and got discouraged

Great video! I think you nailed it with your analogy comparing the original arcade machines to classic cars. I found myself thinking the same thing recently.

I just love the amusement experience arcade cockpit racers and other deluxe cabinets have. I feel these experiences can't be emulated in home ports and are generally exclusive to the arcade experience. There are also the many games that have unique control schemes and panels that make them special in their arcade form. I generally try to add these types of games to my own collection. The biggest con to arcade collecting apart from their weight and prices is the constant repair cycles you'll experience. You will need to learn how to fix them yourself and finding parts can sometimes leave a machine down for months. Yet, they are so worth it if you have the space.

After playing MAME for years on my PC and Laptop I'm finally ready to build a cabinet. I'm leaning towards a 32" wide model, maybe a Japanese sit down style and also a racing/flight cabinet as well. With those, my electronic dart board, a wall mounted PC jukebox project, a round wood table w/chairs in a corner for cards complete with a picture of dogs playing poker and a portable pool table project that swings up and wheels out of the way it should be a heck of a game room. As for kids and arcades, in the early 80's my hockey team celebrated at Shakey's Pizza and we were in the small arcade room in the back. One of my team mates was wearing new cowboy boots and discovered that if he kicked the coin door as hard as he could about 10 times he'd get a free play. He must have kicked that thing a few hundred times in total. Wise not to leave kids unsupervised with anything you care about because they're stupid little assholes.

No time to deal with all those cons of real arcades. Hoping A1up can mimic the real ones just enough...i think with time A1up will get better. Also, the online play is a bonus.

Great video! Messing with RetroPie is what got me into arcade collecting. I wish I could afford a Killer Instinct PCB for my original KI cab. Trying to set up MAME/Retroarch to run in 15khz and trying to make everything look original has been a hell of a job!

Nice vid Chris- the classic car analogy is pretty spot on, IMO!

I've been collecting arcade games for 25 years. I'm in my mid 50's, and I enjoy the fact that these 1up games are light, small, easy to move, and work without hassle. I wasn't really interested in these around the first generation when the cabinets were generic, but since A1U has started making closer to realistic cabinet shapes and art, I've been all in. I'm going to sell my real coin-op cabs and replace them with these in my arcade.

@Hiroshimaaa

Жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@mikejonesnoreally

Жыл бұрын

Why would you ever do something so stupid? The difference in quality is obvious to all but the *bough.* (an' the bots.) xD

@toddmoore9138

Жыл бұрын

@@mikejonesnoreally Quality is one of about 50 factors.

@mikejonesnoreally

Жыл бұрын

@@toddmoore9138 The other 49 are irrelevant if the lack of quality makes me decide to not buy it. Any issues you may have with actual hardware will be 10x worse with *cheap* hardware an' you can't tell me these don't look cheap. The art looks like it's coming from *used* cabs! xD

@toddmoore9138

Жыл бұрын

​@@mikejonesnoreally Makes you decide not to buy it? That's great. You be you. The rest of what you said makes no sense whatsoever. I can tell you that the Tron and Dragons Lair I got look fantastic and were pristine from the box, and having owned over 50 coin op video games and 60 pinball machines over the past 30 years, I think I can decide on what hardware is better and more reliable. That old arcade hardware (board level) was absolute trash, designed for a 3-5 year life-span tops. I spent more time fixing the crap than playing it. The older I get, the more I value reliability and low maintenance. So, that's why I'd do something so stupid, since you asked.

Thanks so much for posting this! I've been thinking about getting an arcade cabinet for my home and gift one to my dad. You've given me a few things to consider.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it was helpful!

I have over 15 arcades at my house. Getting them cheap and fixing them up is part of the fun. :)

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that’s a heck of a collection!

Excellent video! Fellow central Texan here, I too dread storing cabinets in the garage. The garage is the only space for my Arcade1ups and my original Time Crisis 3 cabinet. I'll just have to do my best to keep them covered in plastic or something when the humidity gets bad.

Thanks for the shout out my guy!! Great video as always man!

You are so humble and simple guy really cool man I enjoy watching you keep it up thanks for the video.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the nice comment!

The 1UPs are big enough but also small/lightweight to put a bunch in a small space. Essential mods like lighted coin doors & better controls rly aren’t expensive & very easy to do. Combine all that w/ keeping an eye out for sales, A1UP can rly get you what you want. Note: I would of course prefer the real thing if i had a mansion & unlimited time/money for repairs 😅

Very well done vid! As a collector of both like yourself, some are purists about the real thing (thinking A1U are toys) but the facts are, older hardware in all aspects won't last forever and it is a viable option.

Definitely how much space you have usually determines which path you go…I prefer a modded A1Up so you can really customize to your liking (art and all), while still getting the benefits of saving space, leaving room for more cabs if you want. But yeah if I had the space, I would have a double racing setup for 2P as the mandatory :)

The car metaphor is spot on. I'm leaning towards getting real cabs. I want that authenticity. Gonna he a pain to get down the basement lol

Arcade1up failing the kid test is nothing personal lol, every time I check arcade displays in stores, the joystick top is removed or the artwork is torn out, good thing I waited for the Mvsx and had no problem letting my younger cousins play it, at least with the joystick panel.

This video gives a really good comparison. I don’t think anything else really needs to be added. Personally, I give the edge to arcade1up just because of the size and the fact that it has online play. Regardless, I really want to get a viewlix cabinet to add to my collection.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I tried to be fair and honest to both sides. It seems a lot of people are split. Some say 1up is better for them and some say the original can't be beat.

Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well. Thanks for posting this.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great Video KAG! I really enjoyed it!

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pdubs!

I´m fine with either option. But what I ended up doing was building my own full sized cabinet and using spare computer parts for the internals. Surprisingly because I used reciycled parts it ended up costing me roughly the same as a new 1Up cabinet. I can personalize the design to my liking, it´s easy to modify and I think it´s better to reuse those parts rather than having them end up in a e-waste pile somewhere. What I´ve seen other people do is to import one of those japanese style cabinets (Like a Sega Astro city.) and running mame there, that´s another good option.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I like that recycling idea. I actually did that with my first two cabs. But both old PCs died lol. At least I squeezed out every last bit of life before buying a new PC. Well, a used PC. So I guess I'm still recycling lol.

I love being able to buy/have my own arcade cabs, and not going broke in the process. I only have 2 so far lol. I'm just getting started. Thanks for the video. It makes me wanna buy more arcade1up cabinets lol. 👍🤙

I really enjoyed your brevity. Subscribed.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Teddy! I try to keep things tight on the channel.

Arcade1Ups were okay value at best I think (especially with the controls making them feel more like toys). But the prices of the new ones now are getting pretty silly, without any noticeable improvement to the hardware, so I definitely don't think they are worth it anymore. Having said that, they have multiple games on each unit, and it would cost you a heck of a lot more to buy a real cab of each of those games individually than it would to buy an Arcade1Up, not to mention take up a lot more space. But if you only want the games there are cheaper ways you can legitimately own them, too.

@Frip36

7 ай бұрын

I just want Tempest and Stargate. Maybe Gorf and Galactica and Centipede. Any suggestions? What about Creative Arts? What's the best value? Thanks WhitePoint.

Great video and a much needed one. You have a new subscriber.

Thanks for this video. I hope to someday get my hands on a Ms.Pacman machine as I loved playing it at my trips to the laundromat as a child. I'm ok with either the arcade original or the 1 up, so this video was extremely helpful

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

The Arcade1Up cabinets are far easier to get, if you really don't mind which one you get, I'd say try those first.

I have 4 Arcade 1Up machines myself and I have moved them in and out of the garage, up and down stairs in my house and I've it all by myself. With a help of a simple 2 wheeled hand dolly. My kids are 13 and 10. They have been playing my Arcade 1Ups since I bought my first one about 4 years ago and they've never done any damage to them. Also they come with anchor kits to attach them to the wall so they don't tip over.

Great video analogy methinks ..... and the sweet spot in the middle of these two options is for me, granted it was a lot of work, especially on the software and customisation side but once done I could then port over my different build configs to a new cab and it is : Build your own cabs from different sized flat pack kits and then base them on a compact PC self build or Android (922x). There are so many games to choose from that you will never need to replace any of those cabs out of bordom and if u were the one that built and configured all the software inside then u will always be able to repair and fix them yourself .............. requires a lot of time, effort & learning to do this though and initially that is daunting but moving forward later on you can clone those builds into other cabs ........... shweeeet

I can't wait to get my real, first cab. I'm absolutely aware it could die on me at any point but I'm willing to take that risk... not to mention, I've never played the arcade counterpart which makes this more exciting.

I appreciate the car metaphor! Petition to see a video of you bear hugging the Arcade1Up down the stairs lol. Quite the setup you got my friend. I used to love going to the arcade as a kid. Didn't realize they could be so affordable these days.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

If I have to hug the cab down the stairs I’ll record it haha. If you look around long enough you’ll find a good deal or two on arcades.

Best overall comparative pros / cons video of real arcade cabinets vs Arcade 1ups I have seen to date (And I have watched many since the 1Ups hit the scene). I own both, real arcade cabs and some 1Ups. You are pretty much spot on. I could maybe debate a very minor point or two with you but it would be minor at best. I would recommend your video to anyone interested in either the real deal arcades or 1UPs. I have no doubt there are some that would have disagreements with you and I know, in particular, their are a good number that cannot even think of giving 1Ups a thought, let alone say anything positive of them. I would have to write a lot more to cover that but to each their own. The points you make here summarize both pro and con to each fairly well. A little research into either by those persons interested would prove it. Happy gaming!

Used to have a garage arcade and was awesome but space now I much prefer the 3/4 stuff. But...having two rush arcades hooked up in my garage for races was so cool.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Man, if I had someone else in the house who wanted to race I'd love having two! My wife kind of likes Hydro Thunder but rarely plays it haha.

Great video as always Chris! I find in cases of expensive or difficult to find real boards is to use emulation on a real cabinet and have the best of both worlds. Emulation has come a long way to the point the roms are playing the same as the real board and either people love or hate emulation, this is the future to keep some of these games alive for many more years. Of course it doesn't apply to all games, but most such as fighters such as MK, KI etc, it's totally fine.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I agree about the emulation! I still feel I've found the best version of MAME for KI. Its very very close to the real thing. Nothing will ever be perfect of course but if you spend enough time you can find most games are emulated very well.

@cleetusvandame

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames what version of Mame are you using for KI Chris? I would like to use the same for my KI build.

@zeelong1589

2 жыл бұрын

@@cleetusvandame 139 or 139b both 32bit

@cleetusvandame

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeelong1589 those are very old versions! I thought running the latest version would be the best option?

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Zee is right. That’s what I always heard about MAME. But I found newer versions of MAME stutter on the vs screen. If you need help finding the the files or need more info just email me. I’ll help.

Thank you for another cool video! Fist bump from Japan!

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, from Japan, I know we live in the internet age but that still surprises me lol! Thanks for watching!

I get it, Arcade 1up is aching in on a nostalgia feeling, a cabinet playing classics with official art on the sides. I also get that they’re “undercutting costs” as in less expensive materials and hardware then the authentic cabinets, as well as the costs of buying and maintaining authentic. I do feel they could drop the price done again. Starting at $400 for only three versions of Street Fighter II is a bit much. They could easily sells these for less again I feel. I would really like to build my own with an emulation device as it’s hardware. For what a Arcade1up costs, think of the potential of emulating your own favourites I’m sure someone hates I said Emulation, but I’m a huge fan. It’s unrealistic to peruse a rare game for unbelievable price points when, yeah emulation isn’t the real thing, but at least it’ll be playable

Excellent video! Agree with all your points! For a while it was hard to believe Arcade1up is now competing with real arcade cabinets in terms of pricing, but it's not surprising when you really think about it. Greed conquers all! paPOw!!!

@ripperstoolbox

2 жыл бұрын

biden's america

Great topic! Having 1ups and modding has been great and very enjoyable but finally getting a full size K I last summer, I am leaning towards more full size cabinets. Granted, I am limited on space so having a few 1ups might just provide enough room to get a few full size cabinets. Out of all my 1 ups, I would possibly sell 2 of them ( would never sell my 1up K I mod :) ) to make room for a fullsize. I still have 1 more 1up mod to do but after that, I am thinking fullsize for now on.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Having both is nice, its sad that some on either side of the topic think you have to go all one or the other lol. I'm totally out of space for the moment but I still don't think I will get rid of any of my Arcade1Ups. The KI is also staying for me! Its my first.

@wyldelf2685

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames hello once again KAG ,Kahblah ,, I have always loved mortal kombat-2 ,,you are lucky you have the good version of arcade-1up mortal kombat-2 ,,,the bad version is newer ,boxy shaped at the top ,the new one's angle and shape make it noticably harder to view the screen ,terrible ,,,and more unforgivable they set the joystick platform recessed into the cabinet , player one's left hand smacks into the plywood ,player two's right hand smacks into the plywood ,simply unforgivable ,,,at least that's my opinion ,,,🖖😸😸👍

Great video, Thanks ⚠️💯💯

Appreciate the information, thank you. I'm considering the pro line KI when it drops but I'm so unsure..

@nwo2cool

2 жыл бұрын

Or just wait for some seller on FB marketplace to sell it cheaper, but that'll be a long time.

@YourMasta

2 жыл бұрын

I feel it’s worth it for the online play, plus they seemed to have added voice chat.

Kudos Brotha!

I agree with everything you said 100%!👍

I do have 2 real arcade cabinets and it stick out for the past years. We had to build a cabinet to play one of them, and we had a blast.

Everyone wants the real arcade, but there is a lot involved in upkeep which most people aren't equipped or willing to put up with. Arcade 1-up is a compromise which is close enough without too much hassle. And really, not everyone is going to go hog wild and buy multiple cabs.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thats true. Its a fair bit of work to get real arcades back to good working order. I haven't had them long enough to know long term upkeep but I hope it will be a good experience.

You have amazing taste in racing games dood!

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Cool video bro. Personally, I like to build them, because if i have one break on me, then i get to rebuild and repair, knowing all the parts and process' used to build them. I think I would be too angsty owning genuine arcade cabinets, the not knowing if i could fully repair them to original condition would be too stressful.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

You build the cabinets and all? I wish I had wood working skills lol. I fully understand why you'd prefer that. I do have the thought of "Do I really want to put more hours on this aging hardware?" With my Arcade1Ups, I'll just turn them all on and maybe never play 2 of the 5 cabs in that room all day lol. I don't care much since I can replace all of the parts myself. With those full sized machines, I have them all on one power strip. I hesitate to turn them all on just to play one game. At the same time, I think: these were meant to be played. Not to be stored forever. I do believe it all should last a while once I get the monitors fixed up. They won't see anywhere near the use they did in arcades so I imagine they'll last a while longer without issues.

@icollidge

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames yeah man, mostly pedestals, as they are just real easy to whip up and put together. But I get what you are saying, Its like driving a classic car, there is always a gremlin in the back of your head going "don't crash, don't crash, don't crash"

The classic car analogy is perfect.

I am still thinking about the Tron 1up.. I would love a Real Arcade Tron.. but man they are out of site... some of them are really hard to get.. I kind of look at case by case another that's expensive is Dragon's Lair.. arcade prices on it is really rough.. so I thank Arcade1up for at least giving us a little of the feel, but there are a lot of arcade games that are not too expensive and I shop for both when I look... you can run across that game you remember but it's not a Tron or Dragon's Lair, or in your case a KI and you can get a pretty good deal... great coverage I think you are spot on.

Great Video!😀

i want a hydro thunder so bad, i just got a rush cabinet 2 weeks ago and just upgraded it to rush the rock, absolutely love it!

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I love my Hydro Thunder! I hope you can find one. I just got a third real cab, I'll be revealing it tomorrow on the channel.

I have both. I play my full size stuff way more then the 1up cabinets.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I think I’d be the same if mine were inside. I’ve gotta make the Shed-Cade a real thing this year lol

One of my biggest cons for arcade 1up is if you want to reskin the cabinet artwork. That’s not cheap for what it is but it’s the cherry on top.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s quite expensive. All of my modded cabs have a fair bit of money in them at this point. A decent percentage of that money is from the art.

@velocemente1

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Have you seen the NFL Blitz? It is the worse I've seen as far as skin graphics. It is very grainy. Seems like for a NEW, RELEASED cabinet it would be the best if not better then the other prior released cabinets.

I have done my research on buying both ways and I like the Arcade1ups better than the real ones. I try to buy as many as I can from companies who offer the longest warranties. Usually that’s Walmart. We’ve bought about 20 Arcade1up cabs and so far have only had issues with one. The Outrun. It had a pedal issue. Got that fixed by buying a new pedal from Arcade1up for $32 ($18 plus shipping and tax) Otherwise all have been good. I know buying warranties is probably stupid but we like the piece of mind that comes with them. I also like the Arcade1up because I can buy like 2 or 3 if for the cost of what one real one would be. So I can grow my Arcade1up collection faster and have more variety over buying the real ones. And lastly I’m not tech savvy at all so I would be scared buying a real one and having it break down. And lastly the weight of the real ones would suck. I’ll stick to buying Arcade1ups and searching for deals on them to save even more money. For example I just picked up Frogger for $349 on sale at Lowe’s!

Thank you for making this video. So many shrill fan boys keep saying “Arcade1up is cheap compared to real arcade”… they used to be… now they are similar in price.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

If you look around enough you'll find many real arcades cheaper than A1U. The argument then becomes "Yeah but they need expensive and difficult work" which isn't always true. I just picked up a real Killer Instinct for nearly what they're going to charge for the "Pro series" Arcade1Up cabs. I got lucky and do need to buy a few replacement parts for cosmetic fixes, otherwise it worked perfectly. My Hydro Thunder needed a $60 part and about 2 hours of unscrewing things and putting it back together. Thats probably more work than most are willing to do though. On the other hand, there's no chance Hydro Thunder is going to be released in Arcade1Up form since you can't even emulate the game.

I now have 9 Arcade1up cabs. We use them maybe one or two nights a week. One thing I’m thinking about is adding weight into the cabs so they are not as easily to shake. Other than that, I am very happy with these cabs.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I have noticed the newer A1U models shake around a lot more.

@mobilemacservice3093

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed with RidgeRacer when my wife was playing the game was shaking all over the place. I asked her to take it easy since these are not the real arcade controls. Since then, she has eased up. I do like RidgeRacer adding an extra board between the display and control deck. This made the game more immersive of a experience. Granted, RidgeRacer being a driving game, so the control deck itself is angled and that’s why they did it. However on the Tron cabinet they inset the display deeper and put a changing LED strip between monitor and control deck. That definitely gives a much more immersive experience with both the led strip and the black light on the S Panel reflecting off the sides.

Thanks for making this video. I should start by saying I do own several real arcade machines so I know this colors my perspective a little. When Arcade-1up first started coming out with titles I was very excited and watched each new one come out. The thing that stopped me in most cases with A1up is that we will end up modding the heck out of them and I'm totally fine with that, but then what are we really buying? If I replace the screen with a 20" screen, the controls with nice happ controls and PCB with pc or pie, then all I'm actually buying is the empty-cabinet which is pretty fragile and not very well made. Aside from Star Wars where you get an incredible controller, in most cases, you're paying $500-700 for a small empty cabinet (granted with artwork but you can even replace that.). It seems like there are better options out there to buy an empty better made cabinet for that price range. If I'm missing something you get with A1up you definitely would not replace, please leave a comment I'm interested to hear A1up owners thoughts.

@noiselabproject9659

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I am glad that Arcade 1up has helped to make retro ARcade stuff more popular again but good quality flatpack Cab kits was always the way to go for me for the reasons that you stated as I much prefered to have Big Boy`s Toys instead that I could always fix myself too

So far my 1ups have done well with kids my 2 year old son loves playing duck hunter and constantly wants to play star wars pinball I just make sure his hands are clean and watch him when he plays

Great video. I don't know how to repair real arcade games, so for me, if it's broken when I get it, I'm out of luck. That said, I have to go with Arcade 1up, MVSX, or ATGames

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Repairs are inevitable with the real ones. My modded 1Ups can run forever since I can easily just replace the PC or whatever goes out. Its so sad when something goes wrong with a real cab that can't be fixed easily.

The saying goes, "Nothing beats the real thing". That said, until I get a decent size house, I plan on trying to collect real arcades. I even have a list. But for now, due to their size, my modded Arcade1ups will have to do.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you on that. Space is one of the biggest limiting factors to getting into the arcade hobby. I actually really liked Arcade1Ups simply for their modding platform it gives you. They weren't making the games I wanted so I bought their games and made my own. That alone was huge! Before that I would look at those kits they sold online but never liked the look of them.

@MalebolgiaXXX

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames I mentioned in the A1UP Modders group that I have a love hate relationship with A1UP. With the modding community growing, personally I think they should sell bare bones kits so the consumer can make their own arcade in their own image.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

@@MalebolgiaXXX I fully agree with that! I know people say it would go against their business model but selling the cabinet and monitor with your choice of a few button configurations would be great for modders. They could even still brand it with generic art that some may enjoy and their logo on it.

I would say, the best investment I made next to a mint KI1 arcade machine for $450 was buying a umk3 cab and monitor, getting the jamma to vga converter. Using a groovy mame build. USB encoder with new buttons and sticks. I have every game at its native refresh rate and resolution. Literally cannot tell the difference between real hardware. The cab and monitor was $650 ish, the cheapo win7 computer with emucrt driver and video card was under $300. Definitely some setup trial and error with setting up groovymame resolutions. Totally worth it in every way. I ended up throwing away my Arcade1UP CRT mod cab lol

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thats a crazy good deal. So the graphics card was a special one to use with CRTs? I have a friend who just put a CRT into a cab and is running a MAME PC. We had to use a cheap converter from Amazon. It works but its not perfect.

@joshsowers

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames Yeah, converters arent gonna work. Mame has to output in the native res and refresh rate. The modlines and stuff have to be installed to the graphics card to output 15khz. He could try a superwide resolution of 1920x240 that should be a quick fix with native scanlines

Where did you get that carnevil cabinet? Looks awesome! Can you provide a link on where to purchase one?

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

I made it by cutting the top off of an Arcade1Up, mounting a TV to it and putting a PC inside.

Well done! Very informative and fair. I went a third route and built an arcade cabinet around a consumer CRT hooked up to a MiSTer FPGA. Feels like playing the real thing and the game variety is great. But the cons there are time and money. No perfect solution but all are a labor of love.

@noiselabproject9659

2 жыл бұрын

FPGA is the ideal solution moving forward methinks

This is a good video. Unrelated, but I'm glad you space out your cabinets. I have no idea why people spend so much money for custom side art and then have cabinets touching each other so you can't even see it.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I've always hated seeing cabinets smashed up against each other too. Especially if you have the room to show some of the art off.

@deniseclaeys8295

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I am putting a few Arcade 1ups in my living room, rather than have them all crammed together in my arcade room. I like this option more than putting them in the garage. (And I am a woman who is pushing 60, fyi!)

Price biggest factor for me. I can get Arcade 1ups all day pretty cheap. Especially the ones they are selling like the vector games, Tron, etc. I have 50 arcade games and a couple of Arcade 1ups and love both. I would even like to get some more Arcade 1ups.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

50 arcade games!? Good lord! I do think there's room for both of these in someone's home arcade. The hardcore real arcade guys turn their nose up at A1U. I would always prefer the real thing but for games that are emulated well and aren't my all time favorites, I'm fine with using an A1U.

Random comment, was really pleased to see the Hydro Cab, I was part of the original dev team for that. Its one of the full size cabs I keep an eye out for for myself actually, still don't have one.

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

You all made such a great game! You’re the second developer to comment on one of my videos. Steven Ranck found a video a while back. Since this video, I’ve built a “Shed-Cade” out back so I can properly house the games and play them year round. I’ve been playing Hydro Thunder a ton lol.

@KillerArcadeGames

6 ай бұрын

Hi I recently found there is a "Special Edition" of Hydro Thunder, do you know anything about it? We found a sale of one saying it was only one of 5 that exists.

@DEVGAMER1

6 ай бұрын

I don't know much. After the game released in the arcade we got to work on home versions of the game, and the intent was to patch the arcade games with some fixes and new tracks. I don't recall the exact reasons why, but midway in chicago didnt want to do the patch (was probably expensive to provide drives or give instructions, no clue) so we just saved the tracks for console. best guess these were test runs@@KillerArcadeGames

@KillerArcadeGames

6 ай бұрын

@@DEVGAMER1thanks for the reply! I’ve put a video out to hopefully find the person who bought that cabinet. It may not be a huge leap or change in gameplay but there’s a pretty die hard group of us Hydro Thunder fans on a discord trying to find this version.

It's so easy to build a cabinet yourself these days I've never seen a point to the 1up machines. I suppose if you just want a turnkey solution they're decent. Of course, with 3d printing, a lot of arcade control options available, along with the ease of setting up retropie on a raspberry pi or using an older PC, not to mention all the cabinet kits available, it's never been easier to DIY.

Where can I find the O.G arcade machines at??? I’m planning to open up an arcade!

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I find all of mine on Facebook Marketplace. You could go to auctions though. There’s arcade auctions in most major cities occasionally. There’s one in Dallas. There’s one online too, captains auctions. You have to get it shipped which makes it expensive.

I'd a couple of 1ups and then some sort of Universal cab where I can purchase and download games (does this exist?)

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

It was fun! I was never much of a fan of those Jersey Jack pinball machines, I don't know why, maybe a bad experience with a machine that wasn't in good condition. But I was really interested in their new releases, apparently everyone else was too and I never found them empty haha.

In my opinion the best option to own for actually playing on is a multicade. Either a DIY (built from scratch or a kit), or a pre-built from one of the more boutique shops. That way you can get the benefits of new technology, a full size experience without the weight of an original cabinet (if you build a bartop with a podium you allmost get a real full size experience, and can still move it ourself), and a high quality build with good controls for not much more than the price of an Arcade1Up.

I’ve got a mame setup with two pcs ready to go with rush on them. Would you say the mame version is the same is real hardware? Cheers

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

MAME can come close to the real hardware but it's always slightly different. Most people won't notice much or complain. I'm a huge fan of Killer Instinct so I see where MAME is different fairly easily. When you sit the real machines next to MAME, you'll notice theres almost always a speed difference. I've only really done this with Killer Instinct. One of the biggest differences is how fast the game runs. When the real hardware and MAME are started at the same points and observed, you'll find the MAME version pulls ahead of the real hardware. You can see an example here in my Killer Instinct Arcade1Up review: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZmppsLWGZc6aftI.html I have observed speed differences in Rush the Rock on MAME vs the real hardware as well. My theory is, they can emulate the hardware but can't emulate or simulate "chug". What I mean by chug is the points where the original hardware gets bogged down by too much activity on screen at once or the CPU being worked too hard at one point. It's also possible the data transfer speeds of old hardware affected the original hardware where as emulation is running on modern hard drives or SSDs that can transfer the data far faster.

@retrogamer434

Жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames thank you so much for the explanation. I hope to own a real arcade cabinet one day. I live in the uk and there hard to come by sometimes and seam to be more expensive 👍

Are the circuit boards failing at a worrisome rate? Is it really a problem or just something you are saying can happen?

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

It’s possible but most PCBs seem to last a very long time. I have now bought 7 real machines and none of mine have had issues. I have had to do several monitor repairs though.

Hi, Im from belgium and i am Looking for years now to buy a original cabine Arcade KI. Can someone help me how to find one ? This would be a dream for me Thanks Sam !

@KillerArcadeGames

11 ай бұрын

Im not sure where you could find one in Belgium. I bought one when someone offered it to me privately. But every other machine I’ve bought was by searching Facebook marketplace.

Curious where are you finding cabinets for $800 everything I see online is 3 or 4k for most arcade games?

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Facebook Marketplace. If you look around long enough you’ll find some cheap cabs.

Great video. I've been buying original arcade cabinets for many years. Decided to give A1U a try. Building it was fun, but once I had it up and running, I was completely underwhelmed. It was so tiny. Looked ridiculous. Two people playing at once was a joke. Youre both essentially stading on the side of the cabinet. I retunred it the next day. Never bought another one. Still buying my original cabinets and love them. If A1U ever starts making full size original arcade replicas, I will give them another try. And I'm not talking about the garbage pro series or deluxe cabinets. I'm talking full size!!! They do that...im in!!!

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

Hahah yeah it’s got to be tough to go from full sized machines to a 1Up. They do look hilarious next to real machines. I may have to make a follow up to this video. So much changed for me. I now have an arcade building in my back yard and am slowly replacing 1Ups with real machines. I also feel Arcade1Up as a company has stagnated. Nothing special coming from them anymore.

@rhmidwestcomics

Жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames Would love to see a video on your arcade building.

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

I recorded this recently just showing the inside. kzread.info/dash/bejne/d5eF1tialqXLYJM.html I spent last summer finishing out a TuffShed in my backyard with my neighbor. I think I made this plan soon after recording this video. It all happened quickly.

Trying to decide between The Arcade Guys and Quality Arcades...any idea the differences? They look pretty similar. The only real difference I can find is it seems quality arcades has awesome wraps like star wars and TMNT..where at least in the website the arcade guys doesn't have anything like that at all. Otherwise they look pretty similar, have you seen or hear any comparisons or anything?

Can the buttons and stick be replaced with other generic ones? In the 1ups

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I changed all of mine to Happ controls, MUCH better.

Well, I got KI pro and the huge black box was on the grass by my house yesterday. It is heavy. But I had to get it inside in case it rained. I could have had my brother help me. It’s over 100 pounds. I didn’t want to miss out on it, and it looks better than the old KI 1up. It has the slanted Midway style deck like the MK 30th which is like the original arcade cabinet. It’s taller like T2 and Big Blue and a little wider. I have T2 assembled and got a Big Blue for under $200 on ebay but didn’t build it yet. KI is going next to T2 where I formerly had a Costco MK from ebay that I tried to turn into a Moonwalker and I botched the side graphics. Side graphics are a real pain to apply, you have to do a bit at a time and hope you have it lined up properly. I took apart the former MK to make room for KI pro. I didn’t start building it yet, I didn’t even open the box.

that Rush and Rock machine is awesome

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I just played some races on it, I love it!

I agree 👍 I saw cruisin USA for 500 on marketplace and 1up wants 600+ for their mini replica toy arcade cabinets? Vending machines are built to last.

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

If you look long enough you'll find great deals. I got my Killer Instinct for $1300 which is incredible at today's prices.

Which one you go get the arcade or the arcade 1up

Thanks bro

Ok for a Little While???? That's reassuring!

I live in an apartment so I don't have a choice lol I do love how easy they are to move.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I was in the same boat many years ago. That was when arcades were dirt cheap and I couldn't buy one lol.

I agree with all of your points for and against your machines. I would add one more con to Arcade1Up for me, and that would be the overall cabinet design. I really don’t care for the cookie cutter design they all share. For that reason, I’m a collector of Replicade games. I personally put the most value in the overall cabinet look and how closely it represents the original cabinet. But I also don’t play my games. They live in a glass case and are only to be admired from a distance, haha.

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

I was just sent a Replicade for review! The attention to detail and making them look like the original is unbelievable. Arcade1Up is starting to change up the cabinet design now. They’re newest MK actually looks like a Midway cabinet, which I like, but the attempts prior to it weren’t great. They had the marquee so sunken in it looked like wings lol

Is unobtainium hard to obtain?

How much do the Dance Dance Revolution machines cost?? I was obsessed with this game in my younger years. Also i always wanted a neo-geo arcade machine.

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

I don't know exactly how much they are but I rarely see them in my area. They're probably not very cheap. They're also massive machines when you consider the dance floor and main cab.

Great video

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Vinnie!

When it arrives I'll have 3 arcade 1 ups. The first was street fighter and that one is a bit tore up. First those original LCDs are bad. One controller needs repair and the paint is coming off the control deck. I let my kids play that whenever. The next one is MVC and that one I got just because it's an amazing collectable. I'm the only one that plays that one to keep it pristine. Finally I have MVC2 on pre order. They are really just collectables for me. I've played the games a million times and already own them on Dreamcast and Xbox that I have hooked up to really nice CRTs. The only actual arcade cabinet that I might consider getting is a real MVC but I don't really have the room. I love SNK but I have my neo Geo and many games. I love the idea of a racing cab but I already have a pretty good sim rig and again with the space.

Could you give me some pointer on where to buy legit joysticks for my Cabinet? i'm trying to get an american type

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

Yep! I use Tornado Terry on eBay. He can do custom orders, just message him. ebay.to/2JeSU8V

What do you think about the modded ones that have 100000+ games, almost all the consoles, and it has costume body with the design you want and the controllers you want

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

Thats not something I'd be interested in. It sounds great but the execution usually isn't something I enjoy.

This is a debate me and my friend had for decades. He owns a collection of real arcade machines, I mean all the four players arcade machines, and dozens of other fighting game cabinets, including Japanese cabinets. Me, I only own one xbox cabinet, it feels like a real cabinet, but it's obviously a fake one, but the maintenance cost and space is a godsend and I can play any game I want on one cabinet, it may not be the real deal, but close enough for all intents and purposes. On the other hand my friend has dozens of cabinets, some don't work, most are collecting dust, making his house like a hoarder house, no thank you. For me real arcades are not meant to be collected, their purpose and design is meant for arcades, where random people can join in if they wanted to, that was part of the experience for me, they're meant for short bursts of fun, eating your quarters away, not to be taken seriously and played for hours with a few of your selected friends, I feel that's what consoles were meant for.

No replacement for the real thing, but see the merit for 1up. I can see you've been bitten by the arcade bug though. Just waiting for the video when you got your 10th cabinet lol I definitely think of these like classic cars as well, especially when you start getting into pinball. Working on them can be just as fun at times as playing them!

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Hahah yeah I've got a bad case of Arcade-itis lol. I can guarantee you'll see more soon! At the same time, I still appreciate my Arcade1Ups. I just want them all to be in one room, that would be great.

@jmziprick1

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames Awesome looking forward to it! Man I get it, I wish I could keep them all together maybe at some point in the future when I have more space.

I think the pcb boards are always sold out as people already took advantage or Arcade1up realized people can buy these boards rather than buying their arcades to make their own. I had a street fighter 2 arcade (gen1) which I got screwed and was broken out of the box. Arcade1up did say they normally wouldn’t warranty it but they did send me a new pcb, which is expected tomorrow. I did ask if I could get a modern pcb from the newer street fighter arcades but unfortunately they just said it doesn’t work with older gen 1 units.

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's it. Its got to be frustrating for those who want a replacement but can never get one.

i love this guy. my only complaint was that he didnt show him playing any games

15:40 it's best to upgrade CRT monitors to LCD, TNT amusement channel has help videos.

@KillerArcadeGames

Жыл бұрын

I do all I can to keep the CRTs since they actually look better on these old games. Two of my CRTs just went down in one night but we can fix them. Once I can't, I'll go LCD

@TampaTec

Жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames makes sense, more nostalgic too.

Crazy part is the Arcade1ups may last longer. giving that they are low maintenance.. What are your thought on the Extreme Home Arcade Megacade?

@KillerArcadeGames

2 жыл бұрын

I may disagree there. I don't think Arcade1Up's circuit boards are as well made. I've already heard of many people's PCBs dying, they typically get replaced under warranty but its concerning. If you have ever seen the amount of time (typically measured in hours or minutes) the real arcade hardware logs, its mind boggling how they're still working. For example, my Hydro Thunder cabinet, which is just a PC showed a ridiculous amount of time logged, the time spent in a race (meaning being played) was 254 days, 11 hours and 35 minutes! The game had also earned over $48,000 in it's time in use. I don't believe Arcade1Up hardware could last that long. I'm even less likely to believe the cabinet could hold up to that amount of play. Thats not a knock on A1U though, they just weren't built for that kind of use. I didn't even know what Extreme Home Arcade Megacade was, I looked it up and they look well made. Thanks for watching!

@tom11zz884

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillerArcadeGames Well we can't say for sure how long the Arcade1ups will hold up since they have been in business for only 3 or 4 years I believe. that said, I have an original Street Fighter Cabinet from 2018 that is still holding up just fine and it is played regularly. These things are cell phone based, so they should hold up for a long time. And if something should break, it will be easily and cheaply replaceable compared to an original cabinet.

I never seen or played any arcade cabinets ever. I mean, i didn't saw them in person, like for real and not on someone's video. I found out about arcade games only when i got my first PC and found out about emulation. Until then, i knew only about consoles and PC games. And by console games i mean old 8 - 16 bit games, but only on two consoles like NES or Mega Drive and that's it. And i never even knew that, most of the arcade games was originally that, an arcade games. That they were not on consoles at first, or on PC. But when i found out about it back in, like, 2013 or so, i was little bit shocked. But yeah, i never played any game on real arcade cabinets, and for me, it is impossible to get, at least arcade1up cabinet because, in my country it will coast so much that you can brobably buy a freaking half of the country for those kind of money lol So yeah, playing arcade games for me is best with emulation. About kids: I don't have kids. Hell, i don't even have a girlfriend lol And in my opinion, these days it is better to live alone than just starting a relationships with someone, and then regret it. Also, having kids and family these days is way more expensive than buying real or arcade1up arcade cabinet. So yeah, i decided to screw it and stay alone. It is better to be alone or face the reality and waste your nerves and life to someone, who is probably with just for money and not because they like you the way you are. Also, back in the school and student days girls simply said NO to me all the time, no matter where i go and no matter how good i'am. And at first i was pissed of because of that. But now, looking on reality of things, i came to understanding that been single is not a bad idea. Other words: i rather give my trigger a workout by myself than stick him in to someone and pay the price that i didn't deserve, if you know what i mean.

Another pro of Arcade 1up is there are several games on one machine.