Overtreatment of Stage 0 Breast Cancer DCIS

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9 out of 10 women don’t realize that some breast cancers would never have caused any problems (or even become known in one’s lifetime). This is an issue ductal carcinoma in situ has brought to the fore.
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  • @jamespeelecarey
    @jamespeelecarey6 жыл бұрын

    I am a retired surgeon with over 35 years experience treating breast disease. Dr Greger is absolutely correct. In most of the USA the medical industrial complex that makes their money off of mammography and surgery has the population brainwashed. In my training during the 1970s we routinely removed women's entire breast and axillary lymph nodes and in addition often radiated them with horrendous morbidity and complications. This was the current "wisdom" and the patients followed it blindly for many years after it had been shown to be unnecessary. This is the same learning process going on today but American medicine is so hidebound and profit-oriented that change is very slow, much to the detriment of the patients. Note that Dr. Greger never says, "this is how it is." but rather says' "this is what we can reasonably surmise from science so far."

  • @malenejensen2995

    @malenejensen2995

    6 жыл бұрын

    goodie7415 Thank you for speaking up. My husbands co-workers wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer. They treated her with chemo and the cancer became undetectable. Then they wanted to operate on her. They proposed to take the whole breast, just to be sure 😡. The doctors are butchering women 😤 even though it does not improve survival. It is horrendous.

  • @mrseternaldancer

    @mrseternaldancer

    6 жыл бұрын

    So do you reco women still get a yearly mammogram ? Would ultrasound or another test be better?

  • @AH-cy4md

    @AH-cy4md

    6 жыл бұрын

    goodie7415 Hi. Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm somewhat confused, tho, because I thought that if something suspicious turned up on a mammogram and ultrasound, they'd then do a biopsy, and if the biopsy results don't indicate an aggressive cancer, then there's no surgery, chemo, and radiation treatments. But these videos seem to indicate that anything "suspicious" gets aggressive treatment. How does the process play out usually? Thanks.

  • @jamespeelecarey

    @jamespeelecarey

    6 жыл бұрын

    April Hall It's not standardized at all which is why it is so confusing. First of all the diagnosis is the pathologists opinion of what the tests of the tissue biopsied reveal, assuming the correct area is biopsied. The lay person thinks the tests always show what to do when in fact they do not always clearly indicate the future behavior of the lesion. E.g. DCIS has been treated aggressively in the past but how it behaves long term is not completely understood. Also "diseases" are just models we use to organize our thinking and help decide what to do. "Fever" was once a disease but now we understand it better, though still imperfectly. The understanding of peptic ulcer disease has changed completely since I was a student. Drug companies worked to suppress this for years as it would hurt their sales. Educate yourself, and find a doctor who will take time to talk to you (not easy) and realize there may not be one simple answer. Get a second opinion from someone out of your area if possible (again, not easy). In American Medline the money is all in procedures and tests. Realize this when they are suggested for you. Listen to this talk again, and follow Dr. G's other talks and you will start to catch on. He doesn't say "this is the right answer" he says "this is our best opinion so far, based on good science." Stay well.

  • @jamespeelecarey

    @jamespeelecarey

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hillary Clinton I was born in Austria son of an American soldier and surgeon in the occupation forces of the U.S. Army after WWII. All of my training and practice was in the USA. I have traveled all over the world and operated in other countries. More importantly, I have been ill and gone to docs in other countries. I am not suggesting all out doctors are crooks or bad actors. Our system is seriously flawed in many ways and our outcomes much worse than than in other first world countries. Overall we rank about 37th. We spend far more than any culture on health (about 1/6 th of our GPA) for these poor outcomes. The biggest problem imo is that the best way to make money in our system is based on tests and procedures. There is little money to be had for educating and spending time talking to patients. Many commonly accepted procedures have no scientific basis for being done. Also many docs don't stay up to date and make a great living doing same old things day in day out. We have lots of good doctors but not as many as we should. If you are interested, read "Crooked" by Kathryn Ramin for an examination of the back pain industry. I hope this helps. Stay well.

  • @Anigmama
    @Anigmama4 жыл бұрын

    I was diagnosed with stage 0 DCIS in 2013 after a mammogram. I was told I would need a full mastectomy. I asked how much this would improve my chances of survival. They couldn’t answer, they don’t have the data. Instead I chose to improve my diet and lifestyle, though I was under pressure to choose the surgery. My mammograms last October and 3 years previous have both been clear.

  • @dianaweirich5106

    @dianaweirich5106

    9 ай бұрын

    SAME HAPPENED TO ME!

  • @famnfren

    @famnfren

    9 ай бұрын

    Hello, congrats:) I am interested to hear to hear your current state of health and what you have been doing that are helping you, if you don't mind I ask :)

  • @kate.4403

    @kate.4403

    4 ай бұрын

    Did you have a lumpectomy? How could future mammograms become "clear" if no surgery was done?

  • @ssg8335
    @ssg83356 жыл бұрын

    Went to the endocrinologist today. They asked me why I did not choose to take medications, considering that I am a health professional myself. I told them that the underlying cause of graves disease is still not clear, there are many factors involved such as genetics, stress, diet, the environment etc. So why not give my body the best chance to heal itself by working on these factors. It's been a month since I started a whole food plant based diet and I water fast 3-4 days twice a month, plenty of excercise. I was diagnosed with graves disease 2 years ago. My T3 and T4 are now way within normal range, my TSH suddenly went from 'too low to detect' to 0.6, my antibodies decreased significantly. They asked me what I did in the last month and I told them. They laughed, shrugged it off and told me "must be luck". I didn't want to be an ass about it so I just played along.

  • @lauraclark6182

    @lauraclark6182

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing I'm going to try that cuz I have Graves disease

  • @alisonlutton9378
    @alisonlutton93782 жыл бұрын

    I know this mammogram series is 3 years old but it’s getting new circulation during breast cancer awareness month. An update might be useful. For example, DCIS biopsies do not generally include biological markers but mine did. As a result I knew mine was growing aggressively (grade 3) and was hormone negative but HER2 positive (another sign of aggressive growth and spread). So while it hadn’t spread beyond the duct, that didn’t mean it can’t or won’t. There were also two “precancerous” atypical hyperplasias and one papilloma that after surgery was reclassified to a second DCIS. Personally, I would not discourage mammograms but it seems to me we should advocate for DCIS biopsies to routinely include this level pathology report as it can help both doctors and women make more nuanced decisions that balance the risks of spread, surgery and radiation. It could also less to more nuanced research. All DCIS is not the same and there are some new ways to differentiate cases.

  • @amazingrace1958

    @amazingrace1958

    6 ай бұрын

    FINALLY someone has mentioned that these DCIS findings are graded after biopsy. I too am a grade 3 which places me in the ‘need surgery’ category. So I’m getting a lumpectomy in Jan 2024 which is just a few weeks away. What I’m concerned about is the radiation and hormone therapy afterwards. I finally just got past the worst of menopause symptoms at age 65 and the hormones will give me the SAME da… darn symptoms! UGH! Plus I was warned (by my hematologist) to stop allowing doctors to test me so much - I’ve had too much radiation over the past 25 years. I’ve got a call into her. You sound like a medical professional by the words you used. What’s your opinion of the after treatments? How are you doing now?

  • @rebekah2602
    @rebekah26026 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Gregor, I know this isn’t related to this video, but it’s a request: would you do some videos on drinking water? Like fluoridated water, chlorine, and it’s affects on the human body and bacterial gut biome. I was reading that drinking distilled or purified water is not good for you either because it tends to leach good minerals from your body.. I can’t seem to get the truth. Is fluoridated water a toxin? Is chlorinated water toxic for your body? Tap water vs mineral water vs spring water vs alkaline water vs distilled vs purified.. are water filters necessary? I have gotten sick since moving to a city that chlorinates and fluoridates their drinking/tap water and I noticed skin irritations and poor digestion. I eat a very healthy balanced vegan diet, and I am not getting better. I have a bacteria/gut/digestive imbalance and I take probiotics and eat fermented veggies. I don’t take medication, and my only thought is it must be the water I drink and bathe in. Back at home, in a very small community, 3 years ago I drank bottled purified water and didn’t have this problem. Now since living in this city, I’ve acquired weird health issues. Anyway, I love your informative health based science videos, and I believe water is crucial to life and prosperity. Why shouldn’t it be discussed and brought to light with science backed literature? Thank you for everything you do and informing people everywhere!

  • @HelenRullesteg
    @HelenRullesteg5 жыл бұрын

    I'd be really grateful if you could do a video on calcification of the breast tissue, what maybe causes it and what one can do oneself to do anything about it. I was diagnosed this year, 5 years ago there was nothing showing in the mammogram, so it would helpful to learn what, if anything, the doctor said there was nothing I could do, one can do. As it seems many women over the age of 50 have this problem, it would probably be of interest to many others and not just me. Apart from that, I have learned so much from watching your videos and reading your book and would like to thank you for all the information you are putting out there.

  • @sidilicious11
    @sidilicious116 жыл бұрын

    Yes! I 'knew' it, intuited that this was the case. It's good to have research to back it up. Let's take back the power sisters!

  • @daniels4338
    @daniels43386 жыл бұрын

    thank you for the videos!

  • @cerenademe9433
    @cerenademe94336 жыл бұрын

    You have really hit the nail on the head, Dr. Greger. Stay safe!! xo

  • @celiab3701
    @celiab37016 жыл бұрын

    I was told to do it every year, thank you for this information!

  • @jennyeidson4916
    @jennyeidson49166 ай бұрын

    Diagnosed DCIS last month, and in my research so far I came to this conclusion and SOOOOOOO happy to have a video that validates my thinking!!!

  • @larae6799
    @larae67996 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a video about stage 0 melanoma!

  • @ValentinaMitchell1
    @ValentinaMitchell16 жыл бұрын

    My mom had stage 0 ductal insitu and was advised to do a lumpectomy and chemo, 4 times. Radiation everyday 5 weeks everyday. Over a decade ago. She's doing well, no reoccurrence. Interesting video thank you

  • @carolynevers7924

    @carolynevers7924

    6 жыл бұрын

    Me too and I have doctors pissed at me for 'refusing' treatment.

  • @ValentinaMitchell1

    @ValentinaMitchell1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Carolyn Evers If you are able too, please get a second opinion. I know for a fact that pathologists looking under a microscope at biopsies get too busy. Peace of mind. That chemo was horrible to see her go through. However, 12 years later she's only had a few calcium deposits. Please keep me posted, rooting for you.

  • @pattyzirul9138

    @pattyzirul9138

    6 ай бұрын

    How did the treatments make her feel?

  • @LibbyRoseEmbroidery
    @LibbyRoseEmbroidery6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for reminding me to phone up and decline my invitation to join, wait for it,..... a trial of screening in women *younger* than the usual screening age (50-70 in the UK)! To be fair the NHS have included a leaflet detailing the risks, i.e. that there's 3 times the risk of having unnecessary cancer treatment than there is chance a life could be saved by early diagnosis. I intend to decline all routine screening.

  • @adambryant921
    @adambryant9216 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Greger I love everything you've done and do. I think it would be awesome if you could make a video. I just deleted a very long paragraph. I think it would the best thing if you could just make a video about what you believe and what you think is right. Your own documentary. Not on just the subject but all.

  • @carolynevers7924

    @carolynevers7924

    6 жыл бұрын

    Read his book "How Not to Die" Excellent! I could not put it down.

  • @johnepps5830
    @johnepps58306 жыл бұрын

    Where do you get access to the scientific studies?

  • @hellobonjour9513
    @hellobonjour95136 жыл бұрын

    Hi Doctor ! Can you do a series of videos about endometriosis and the "endo-diet" ? I know you're not a gynecologist, but the ones I've seen seem clueless to me

  • @r5ndom551

    @r5ndom551

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes please

  • @38NDY
    @38NDY9 ай бұрын

    I used to avoid mammograms but give in to pressure from family and doctors and now for the second time I am undergoing biopsies and possibly a second surgery. I wish I had not watched this video because I do not feel qualified to interpret it, the video has limited data. If I really wanted to evaluate the video I would request primary sources and multiple studies. So thanks a lot for nothing.

  • @odd1363
    @odd13636 жыл бұрын

    Just posting here because it's the latest video. Can you tell me what happened to your Ted Talk? Can't find it anywhere now.

  • @sitcomchristian6886
    @sitcomchristian68866 жыл бұрын

    I always swore I would never get a mammogram. Mostly because I was phobic of them lol plus I don't want that kind of pain. So my relief and validation is somewhat superficial here, but meh.

  • @berlinwall6674
    @berlinwall66745 жыл бұрын

    What is stage 0 breast cancer

  • @r.annrousseau170
    @r.annrousseau1706 жыл бұрын

    Please do some videos on healing LYME

  • @_puravidawellness_

    @_puravidawellness_

    6 жыл бұрын

    R. Ann Rousseau check out The Medical Medium.

  • @r.annrousseau170

    @r.annrousseau170

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pura Vida Wellness Just looked at Medical Medium. All book review videos on Lyme. No guidance. Another Lyme run around.

  • @_puravidawellness_

    @_puravidawellness_

    6 жыл бұрын

    Read his first book, called medical medium. He’s also got a radio show on many subjects, including lyme which can be found for free on soundcloud. Join his Facebook group called medical medium. He has the answers you are looking for.

  • @r.annrousseau170

    @r.annrousseau170

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pura Vida Wellness Then why doesn't he do a real Toutube video like NutritionFacts does? These are KZread videos that heal...not try to hide the secret sauce. Lyme patients have been down too many rat holes to find relief for their excruciating pai. My latest...CBD oil, Carbon 60, Vit C, Larginine, Probiotics, Zinc, Alpha Lipoeic, Resveratrol, NAC, B11, Vit D, Collodial Silver, Oregano oil, Olive leaf extract.. not to mention the teas. i woke up this morning with feet burning, joints below my waist hurting, extreme muscle weakness. Did I mention Sarcoidosis?,My immune system tries to attack the lyme but bites itself. Granulomas found in the liver. Doctors, doctors, doctors. No answers. I'm exhausted hunting for the answer. Just tell Mr Medium to put out the God damn video.

  • @_puravidawellness_

    @_puravidawellness_

    6 жыл бұрын

    R. Ann Rousseau I am sorry you are not well. I encourage you to look into medical medium. He doesn’t do KZread much. He uses other platforms as I mentioned above. 🌱🙏🏽

  • @r5ndom551
    @r5ndom5515 ай бұрын

    I was diagnosed with 2 types of breast cancer. Lcis & dcis. Stage 0. Is surgery neeed!? Everything I read is contradictory to what I m being told.

  • @ryantfinchum
    @ryantfinchum6 жыл бұрын

    Improving her diet to avoid cancer? Novel idea..

  • @carolynevers7924

    @carolynevers7924

    6 жыл бұрын

    If your immune system is compromised, cancer can settle in, same as any other health issue. If your system is flushed with nutrients every day, the body can correct itself. Homeostasis. I have been diagnosed with DCIS and have chosen a whole food plant based diet and have been eating this way for almost 10 months and I love it.

  • @rosaacosta577

    @rosaacosta577

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@carolynevers7924 How are you now? Hope all is well.

  • @kevinjackson7061
    @kevinjackson70616 жыл бұрын

    I just went plant based 2 days ago. Can anyone give me some support or some ideas on meal ideas???????

  • @kevinjackson7061

    @kevinjackson7061

    6 жыл бұрын

    Canadian Girl Thank you so much. You're a Godsend. I'm New to this but I want to have better performance on my long runs. I'm a endurance addict and calistenics addict. God bless you for helping....

  • @marysanders8906
    @marysanders89062 жыл бұрын

    How would one know they have Breast cancer? I agree with all this info but just wondering if mammograms are not beneficial how would one know they have breast CA? I have Kaiser insurance & they harass you to get mammograms.Thanks for all this research.

  • @mariondawson6223

    @mariondawson6223

    Жыл бұрын

    Usually it would be if you notice something unusual in your breast, like a hardness or a lump, or changes in shape that is not normal for you. Then you go to the doctor and tell them. They might give you a mammogram then, but at that stage it would be useful.

  • @mariondawson6223

    @mariondawson6223

    Жыл бұрын

    There are KZread videos which tell you what to look out for. (But also don't get obsessed with it and start imagining things that aren't there, just be aware)

  • @earthpet
    @earthpet6 жыл бұрын

    If you want to help find a cure for breast cancer (or any disease) then support conscientious intelligence research. Supporting anything else would be dumber or evil or both.

  • @patmcgaw6266
    @patmcgaw62664 жыл бұрын

    I had stage zero DCIS in 2007 , but it was classified as high grade, I have had a mammogram every year except I missed 2 years, I got panicky and got tested and was okay , can you advise?

  • @ronkennethjavier1400

    @ronkennethjavier1400

    3 жыл бұрын

    How are you now?

  • @patmcgaw6266

    @patmcgaw6266

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ronkennethjavier1400 going for my mammogram and ultrasound after Easter

  • @vli2000

    @vli2000

    3 жыл бұрын

    High grade DCIS is totally different from the low grade DCIS Dr Greger was talking about here. Keep the WFPB lifestyle and follow your doctor’s advice. All the best!

  • @ronkennethjavier1400

    @ronkennethjavier1400

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vli2000 Hmmm But if its treated by mastectomy the risk will be very low for recurrence

  • @vli2000

    @vli2000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ronkennethjavier1400 of course! Dr. Greger was talking about over treatment of low grade breast cancer here. But high grade DCIS has much higher chance to develop invasive cancer. So, Pat needs to be followed up periodically. You can not ignore the high grade DCIS.

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    @jeenabittenbender72056 жыл бұрын

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    @jean64603 ай бұрын

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    @franziska-6 жыл бұрын

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    @bogipepper6 жыл бұрын

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  • @MrSuperbluesky
    @MrSuperbluesky6 жыл бұрын

    $$$$$$

  • @vitamindubya
    @vitamindubya6 жыл бұрын

    Is this an ignorance is bliss thing?

  • @user-gy7ym3ik8x

    @user-gy7ym3ik8x

    10 ай бұрын

    No.

  • @ScrayXXI
    @ScrayXXI6 жыл бұрын

    can someone please explain to me how Roaming Millennial is hot? I don't fucking get it. She's a 6/10 at best with all that makeup someone help I feel like VG fanboys are gaslighting me

  • @tamcon72

    @tamcon72

    6 жыл бұрын

    Are you drunk? Why are you posting this here? No one at this channel is of that demographic, LOL!

  • @sooooooooDark
    @sooooooooDark6 жыл бұрын

    eh this series is getting boring - we know radiation is bad and we know MDs got no clue make food stuff like u r supposed to

  • @patty-cf7jj

    @patty-cf7jj

    6 жыл бұрын

    sooooooooDark I don’t think it’s boring at all. It’s fascinating. I think it’s the best series he has done by far because it the one health screening that is surrounded by the most misconceptions. I’ve been telling my friends these things for years and they think I’m absolutely bonkers because they have been so brainwashed.

  • @tamcon72

    @tamcon72

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing you're a man.

  • @sooooooooDark

    @sooooooooDark

    6 жыл бұрын

    if it was a series about prostate cancer i would write the same just move lymph, stop cooking ur food, eat alcaline, massage the area, take stress out of ur life, stop sexual things for a while 95% of cancer cured just with these few easy steps

  • @tamcon72

    @tamcon72

    6 жыл бұрын

    + *sooooooooDark* Dr. G, if you notice, doesn't give recommendations for specific regimens based on opinion. Prostate cancer is not analogous to breast cancers at all, as it is eminently treatable and is not multifarious nor mis or over diagnosed, certainly not at the rates at which breast cancers are. This is a serious medical crisis for half the population and results in barbaric recourses not synonymous to those employed in prostate cancer treatments. Nor testicular cancer, for that matter. The Doctor should post as many videos as necessary to inform that half of the population--and the members of the other half that give a damn--no matter how it may bore the rest of us.

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