The formula for the Chinese plants seems to be: Plant can do A, but has a chance to do B. As it levels up, the chances for B increase, and at level 5, B is enhanced or it gets C, effectively turning it into an unstoppable zombie killing machine.

@aiopnn427

Жыл бұрын

You forgot that they all have a chance to get plant food when planted too

@TwilightChomperEnthusiast

Жыл бұрын

@@aiopnn427 Well that goes without saying but yes.

@jossuecabrera8611

Жыл бұрын

I will never take pvz international leveling for granted anymore. At least those kept the plant consistent on what it did. This feels like it adds way to much for a plants and this makes it confusing on what any plant is supposed to do.

@iamghostorami

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget it has to recharge for 4.2069 seconds before attacking again

@TwilightChomperEnthusiast

Жыл бұрын

@@jossuecabrera8611 The international game may have its flaws with the leveling system, but it’s nowhere near as broken as PvZC, where plants can solo entire levels at level two.

8:49 I like seeing him explain the absurd knockback fishhook grass gets while the one in the 3rd lane is just 2 shotting gargs

@alzhanvoidsansado

Жыл бұрын

Don't mind me, just going on a casual slaughter over here, pay more attention to my buddy at the bottom

@danielfletcher706

Жыл бұрын

fishhook grass is a mess of bugs. It does provide interesting strategies when you play zombie mode.

Hammerflower: 150 sun cost. Fast recharge. Solos bucketheads. Fishhook Grass: 150 sun cost. Fast recharge. Solos gargantuars. Mangosteen: 150 sun cost. Fast recharge. Solos bucketheads. Tigerstool: 250 sun cost. Slow recharge. Barely kills coneheads. Chinese balancing!

@Thecyanpult

11 ай бұрын

Mangosteen was very unique but should have been 250 sun which i find stupid

@zaidtariq8804

3 ай бұрын

15:14 mangosteen 1 shots garguntaurs at max level

@jwechols86

Ай бұрын

@@zaidtariq8804 …no it doesn’t

While these plants are cool, the issue I find most common in all of them is the plant food, they just do a generic "damage in 3x3 area" thing

@catalyst9955

Жыл бұрын

the main game is at fault with this too, with very few plants having a power up that doesn’t amount to screen-clear or effective lane clear

@symlord

Жыл бұрын

The real issue is the fact that they used up all their existing ideas so when they make something “new” it’s just what another plant does but in a different way

@mikedacoolnerd788

Жыл бұрын

​@@symlordThe most interesting plants of the video were definitely the Tiger Stool and the Gardener Grass. They were also the weakest but their mechanics looked fun to play with. If only Gardener Grass could stun more Zombies.

@aubueruser7228

Жыл бұрын

@@symlordIt’s actually hardcode, apperently.

@ElenaPog

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!! I was literally about to say, how many plants have unique plant food effects that isn’t damage in a 3x3 area, credit to gardener grass though at least it’s 2 3x3 areas effectively making it 3x5 (with middle lane doing double)

I like how they gave extremely boring plants stupidly strong abilities.

@passtheapplejuice2619

Жыл бұрын

how the hell did they think 150 sun for the first two were balanced

@blaster.m1943

Жыл бұрын

@@passtheapplejuice2619 and too salt to injury they gave the plants with the really bad DPS a higher price

@dawest7203

Жыл бұрын

Idk I like it

@batproofblusoldier2973

Жыл бұрын

Hello other blu team scout, want to help me get the intel from red, I need you to distract the sentries with bonk and I'll Finnish off the sentries with my direct hit

@vreddycarlsondoesnotexist

Жыл бұрын

bruh, the original pvz 2 recent updates also boring

"Monkey's head mushrooms" "Lion's mane mushrooms" *They make it a tiger*

@burner555

Жыл бұрын

Inb4 "chinese year celebration", they could've chose an another plant

@tehesprite502

10 ай бұрын

@@burner555 They already had a Monkey's Head Plant, so honestly it's not an issue.

Fairly certain Gardener Grass' attack is also based on a childhood toy called a flywheel toy (and yes, it sounds just as annoying irl) It would also make the costume and cute ish design make sense

They made Fishhook a plant that is at it's strongest when it is unable to perform its main ability.

The Tigerstool looks so goofy, I love it

@mkks4559

Жыл бұрын

It looks like it's the worst plant to spam visually, but practically, is only good if spammed.

@KinDiedYesterday

Жыл бұрын

​@@mkks4559 its like lighting reed. Bad alone, strong in number

@Serving_Cvnt

Жыл бұрын

​@@KinDiedYesterday but almost all plants if spammed is good..

@KinDiedYesterday

Жыл бұрын

@@Serving_Cvnt we dont talk about this. Lighting reed user need their coping mechanism available

@Light_2461

Жыл бұрын

It makes me think of Happy Tree Friends for some reason

mangosteen looks adorable and we must protect him at all costs

@naplockblubba5369

11 ай бұрын

The smeeper

@NibirBaishnab

9 ай бұрын

what a beauty are these plants!exception for the fishing hook plant

@user-ue1lf4ip9i

27 күн бұрын

Why

That Gardener Grass looks good for Frostbite Caves tbh, even without fire, it can free itself making it immune to freeze, literally.

@noooo2310

Жыл бұрын

how? it can only unfreez it self if it was attack which will likely not happen bc it will get snip

@Its_bloon.yt2011

Жыл бұрын

@@noooo2310 chopping ice?

Fishhook grass honestly sounds super fun imo. I feel like it would be better balanced if the fish hook did very weak damage and the damage from the zombies depends on its toughness so bucketheads would deal more damage than basics

12:49 The reason why Mangosteen attack 6 times before resting is because this plant needs to attack IN A ROW without left idling for too long (for a few seconds) before the cooldown. If Mangosteen don’t attack in a row, the number of maximum attack require for a cooldown will be reset.

9:06 very interesting, but I can’t help but notice that they are 2 shot gargs like it nothing.

The loud sound effects was definitely one of the reasons I almost never played with sound on. Plants and zombies in the Chinese version were/are either really quiet for me or so loud that your ears would hurt after a couple minutes with seemingly little in-between.

Legends says the bug bot is still stunned

Is nobody gonna talk about how Hammer Flower just summons Thor's Mjolnir for his Plant Food? This dude is cookin' 😂

@Spingerex

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@superduperperry

Жыл бұрын

Are we gonna talk about Mangosteen’s description though?

@Sunneh2013

3 ай бұрын

​@@superduperperrywhat about it?

@superduperperry

3 ай бұрын

@@Sunneh2013 It says “ Everytime Mangosteen swears, it is on the condition of being struck by thunder. “ This confirms that plants can talk and say swear words.

@duongnguyen-mb3rp

3 ай бұрын

@@superduperperry "i hope you get no water" -Mangosteen

I kind of dig Fishhook Grass' ability. It has knockback, can work around its recharge by stunning at working from long-range, and is kinda like Fisherman Zombie the plant. Mangosteen doesn't seem cohesive at all, but tigerstool and gardener grass are funny, and sound like cool concepts if nothing else.

When we needed him most, he finally returned! I missed this series buddy!

@Circle2947

Жыл бұрын

It has been a month but sure

@TheMcMuffin277

Жыл бұрын

@@Circle2947 a month, 4 weeks, 30 days, 730 hours, 43829 minutes, 2629743 seconds, 2.62974383 × 1027 zeptoseconds, a lot of time

@Berlinh2

Жыл бұрын

Npc

@TheMcMuffin277

Жыл бұрын

@@Berlinh2 you wot, mate?

@isaacmayer-splain8974

Жыл бұрын

​@@Berlinh2 you're one to talk. Hypocrite.

21:53 bro really pulled a Black Knight "Tis but a scratch"

PART TEN LETS GO

9:00 This feature reminds me of one particular level in Just Shapes and Beats...

I love watching gargs die in two hits over and over while the clip was focused on the fishing guy’s knockback at max level

You make me very happy when you upload this series

@flagzombie

Жыл бұрын

And I'm happy to hear that :)

It's funny how at around 2:46, the word balanced is flying out of view, which would mean the joke of Hammer Flower's balancing being out of the frame

19:10 This looks so cute, even though the attack type is buzzsaw

(I’m judging all of these on their Level 1 versions BTW) Hammer Flower looks like a really good plant, but if it was in the International Version, I don’t really see myself using it much. That’s mainly because outside of Celery Stalker (And to an extent Wasabi Whip), I’ve never really cared about the melee plants that much. Also it’s design is kinda boring (Nothing about it screams “Flower”, he looks more like a beanstalk to me). Fishhook Grass, meanwhile, is a melee plant I vibe with a lot. Has a fun gimmick and I see it being pretty helpful against high HP zombies like Gargs. Mangosteen is a plant I really like on paper, seeing as it’s basically what I wanted Phat Beet to be (A high DPS 3x3 AOE Plant ala Gloom-shroom from PVZ 1). But in execution… yeesh, that 30 second cooldown is a major turn off. I get it’s there to prevent it from being even more broken than PVZ 1 Gloom-sheoom, but I feel like there were better ways to handicap it (Like turning down its damage a bit or completely dropping the stun gimmick). Tigerstool has a fun design and animations, but everything about it just screams “Snapdragon but worse”. Lastly there’s Gardener Grass, and tbh I don’t really know if it’s good or not. That being said it just looks fun to use. The animation of it stunning zombies looks really goofy and I’d see myself running it just for the fun of it.

The fishhook grass is as powerful as the fisherman zombie Awesome

Gardener Grass sounds like she would go great with Mega Gatling Pea and Iceweed!

@theteethcollector865

Жыл бұрын

and inferno!

@zumbie8049

Жыл бұрын

And almost any other plants

@sergiolozano2869

10 ай бұрын

Gardener Grass could also work well with any good melee plant.

The Mangosteen is so fucking cute for some reason 😂❤ I just love the cute attack animation

I would like it noted that I think Tigerstool's level 5 ability, although exceedingly rare, is broken. "10% of the target's max health each second, for 10 seconds" So if this funny little mushroom were to poison a zombie, it's name is already written on a gravestone they are not raising out of.

@Thiago_Rodrigues30

8 ай бұрын

Does this work on bosses? Please say it does not.

@unowncommenter9581

8 ай бұрын

@@Thiago_Rodrigues30 Honestly, knowing this game? It probably does.

fish hook grass is just an anouther example of chomper being powercrept, longer range, attacks zombies while doing so and will not alway be on cooldown after its attack

Flag, this series always makes my day better. Thanks so much for the great content. Keep it up!

@corrupie

5 ай бұрын

Is that

@Scribblemations

5 ай бұрын

@@corrupie HI MR CORRUPT FROM GEOMETRY SUCKS 7

@corrupie

5 ай бұрын

@@Scribblemations NO I AM NOT

Feels like they mixed up the growth timer and the cooldown timer on Mangosteen. His growth ignores the resting period yet the growth happens like 3x as fast as the default rest timer. I could see leveling making the plant grow faster so it’s stronger quicker; similar to other multi-stage plants.

YESSS... ive been waiting for this video for so long!! love your videos so much,keep em up!

Fun fact: Gardener glass can stun zombies that gain buff from fairytale forest fog which is weird since normal stun won't work for them (sry for rough grammar😂😂😂)

@nkqwithankq6311

Жыл бұрын

Huh thats good to know

Thank you again for these videos and for putting so much effort into them.👍

Been a while since you did one of these Glad that we got another overanalyzing video

Can't believe we're already this far into this series.

I really like the sound design on hammer flower, it sounds like they literally just dropped a rock on the floor and used it.

It is always a good day when a new overanalysing video comes out.

“He’s mildly annoyed.” -Flag Zombie, 2023

@nungkyayusopiany9341

2 ай бұрын

He's angery but not really

Omg just perfect timing it came out love your content 😊

Yoo, every episode of overanalyzing is awesome :D

Fun fact: According to mangosteen's almanac description, plants know and can say swear words

All plants that i wanted to see grouped up in one episode, nice

Cool video as always 🎉

Been waiting for this thanks! Edit:I love your videos

21:56 this is normal. Hunter zombies are just like this.

he always come when least expected - Flag Zombie... with another nice video!

Hey also, I just downloaded Chinese version about last Friday, and I don’t know what zombies can do. And I watch your video and it help a lot, so I decided to sub you

@flagzombie

Жыл бұрын

Glad I helped!

tbh the fishing hook grass should be called the fishing reel

Thanks for these as always , never fail yo entertain me ^^

YAY!! I MISSED THESE TYPES OF VID OF URS!!💚💚💚

I'm in love with the hammer flower sound effects

I was excited to see the Rubble Trubble theme, love it!!!

Your dedicated to your work as I can see…I respect that

This series is amazing and so addicting ❤

best pvz channel. Also you gotta love the music!

@flagzombie

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hammer flower literally summons Thor's hammer💀

You know it's a good time when you post❤

This series is super addicting ! Keep up the good work .

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOREVER FOR THIS VID

19:12 that conehead be hittin the griddy tho

It would be pretty fun to see modders incorporate some of the Chinese plants into their game and see how they balance/rework these plants, especially since I don't like how some plants gain abilities that have a chance to pop up by leveling, especially lv 5 that gives the plant abilities they don't need. Alterniz did a pretty good job with maypop. Maybe one mod could bring the bearberry motar and make it a tap to use plant like cocnut cannon. What are your thoughts?

@grapeguy6843

Жыл бұрын

What’s maypop

@jossuecabrera8611

Жыл бұрын

@@grapeguy6843 a custom plant from a mod of pvz 2 that works differently than its Chinese version.

@LUCAS420BLZ

Жыл бұрын

It's impossible they are way too custom to just do it in a mod but if they did they also have to take account for balancing Some plants would have to be reworked completely lest it be too similar to your average peashooter Also hard-coded stuff is frankly impossible to work around for some of these abilities You'd find more luck with a remade game Or just similar sprites but different abilities because vanilla limitations for custom things

@jossuecabrera8611

Жыл бұрын

@@LUCAS420BLZ honestly, reworking a plant from the ground up seems like a better idea from a coders perspective.

*sees Tigerstool* I liked it when plants vs zombies was about... You know... Plants and zombies...

Gargantuars: I fear no man, but that THING… *insert Fishhook Grass here* It scares me.

The Chinese version of pvz2 feels like one big public beta testing area, hence why so much seems incredibly janky and broken PS: fishhook grass' mechanic is incredibly goofy and I love it

Finally another overanalysing video!

I'm so glad there's more

Finally part 10 coming😊

I'd say Tigerstool's poison attack is actually pretty balanced, being really powerful, but also really rare

This game is clearly the pinnacle of hame design with mo broken features or broken features whatsoever

I would just like to compliment your exquisite music taste

@flagzombie

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

7:25 Other plants: well thank you...😐⚰️

YES HOORAY FOR PT 10

PVZ2C's biggest feature is its racing game attributes. In some modes, such as Pursuit mode and Endless mode, the only measure is the fastest clearance speed, so most plants are useless, only those that can quickly hit damage. Or plants that can attack off-site zombies are more popular.

Omg part 10 is out!

I swear some of these plants can survive like 10 waves without dying

If Mangosteen is called "Mangostun" instead it suits it better

I think the 20 second rest time of Level 5 Gardener Grass is due to her being idle for the 15 seconds the sawblade lasts, since it's basically doing the work for her; other than that, her rest time remains 5 seconds from Level 3

I like Keep it up my man

9:58 Sunday Edition got a mind of its own thanks to Fishing Hook Grass. XDD

We love these videos since we dont see them anywhere else pls make more🥰🥰

Gardenee grass's rest time is increased after launching a level 5 sawblade bc it starts ehen she trows it not when it expires so she can attack after the normal 5 seconds after it ends

Your videos are very good to watch

21:46 "But his hate didn't let him go"

I have Gardener Grass, and she is very fun to use lol, I use her in almost all my loadouts for the lols, her sound is horrifying but I play mute most of the time so im fine lol

@Thecyanpult

4 күн бұрын

how do you get the china ver?

12:50 I think it’s because the Mangosteen lost its target (it stopped attacking) and then it began attacking again. So it attacked twice, lost target. The countdown resets. Attack 4 times. So you get 6.

I'm so glad you have music to cover the absolutely disgusting sound Gardener Grass makes

Gardener's grass Just straight up makes the zombies twerk

Longg timee waiting for this overanalyzing plantt...🥰🥰🥰🥰

Finally, a video where Jester isn't getting countered.

Tigerstool looks so hilarious!

After seeing the Tigerstool, I'm glad that we have Tiger Grass in the International ver.😅

I'm wondering how do you get the materials and plants so easily? Like I'm playing the Chinese and the lottery is really expensive

This game has more plant species than irl

enfinnnnnn ca faisait si longtemps

I missed this, all these plants seem really good except for that last one

Gardener Grass and Fishook Grass are very unique plants instead, nice work China

@anonymousplayer8174

Жыл бұрын

Are you chiense?

@KraylebStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymousplayer8174 No, i just really like the designs and think they are unique

@anonymousplayer8174

Жыл бұрын

@@KraylebStudios they sure are, and it seems that Chinese people care more about the game than Americans

@KraylebStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymousplayer8174 There are more people in the world than just Chinese and American people

@anonymousplayer8174

Жыл бұрын

@@KraylebStudios But I'm saying Chinese people were the ones who created pvz C and Americans create pvz international