OVER-HYPED or "Shop Necessity"
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Getting super precise crosscuts on wide boards can be difficult with the two most commonly used crosscutting tools in most workshops (chop/miter saw and table saw). I show two methods for crosscutting wide boards that can be used on panels, lumber, plywood, etc.
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@Wastelandman7000
Жыл бұрын
Whatever circular saw you get, make sure you buy a decent blade for it. Can't tell you how much frustration I had starting out because I kept thinking I needed a better saw when what I needed was a better blade. The saw you show is a good one. But, if you can't afford anything but a cheap saw, spring for good blades.
I love the sound of hand tools.
I started woodworking again after a significant break about a year ago. The most important thing I have learned is that a hand saw, plane, and chisel are really the minimum set of tools. Sandpaper, glue, fasteners, and wood are the consumables. Adding tools as wanted/needed for efficiency or convenience or just as a new experience is great. Every change that I want to make to a peice of wood generates the question “what is the best tool to make this change?” Best is determined by safety, proficeincy, and desire. Thanks for showing both powered and handtools ways. I appeciate it.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
100%. Well said my dude
I have been gradually learning how to square/flatten boards by hand, and I've discovered that now I am (slowly) improving, I MUCH prefer it to the point that using power tools is now a last resort for me. I hate the noise and the dust, and I agree with you - the setup and breakdown time of measuring out a cut, getting everything stable and accurate for a power tool cut means that working by hand doesn't always take much longer, and is a much more pleasurable process for me.
Frank, since I started watching your vids I have used more hand tools and got away from all electric. Honestly, I feel like I'm becoming a better woodworker because of the transition. I wish I would have started with a saw and a chisel instead of running out and buying an entire woodshop with a lot of crap I don't use. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for confirming that I’m “normal”. Now my mom doesn’t have to get me tested! 😂😂😂. Another good video Frank!
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha 🤣🤣
Perfect timing! I am doing stock prep by hand tool right now for Christmas gifts…I never think about the low angle block plane for cross grain work. Again, always love the craftsmanship!
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian!
I'm with you on this one, for sure. When facing a task such as this one, I have to ask myself "Would this be worth $600-700 for an "accurate" chop saw?" When with just a little effort I can dial it in like a laser. In my experience, tools can own me rather than the other way around.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@Wastelandman7000
Жыл бұрын
Yep pretty much.
I have a full shop and moving towards hand tools. My time in the shop is early in the mornings and late at night when i can't use the power tools. Also, good cardio doing hand tools especially sawing.
Excellent to see a guy who has skill and doesn’t need fancy tools. This guy relies on his God given talent to help guts like me.
So funny!!! Watching your videos actually made me look into getting more hand planers even after spending the money on jointer & planer.
@mattschreiber4251
Жыл бұрын
For sure! It’s certainly not either/or. I couldn’t do business without my 16” jointer and 25” planer, but my plane collection is equally essential.
Me after watching: He is right. It’s not the arrow, it’s the archer. Also me: I want that Woodriver block plane.
I think you're right. I may still drool over big honkin surface planers or jointers but they're not what most people truly need. If you're going pro, maybe a different story. It's good to embrace a bit of minimalism, besides less power tools means I can fill my shop with more hand tools 🙃
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
I do too lol 🤤
I still think there's something very good about crafting, and he's one of those people who make amazing wood crafts.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
Thank you. Very helpful.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
I LOVE MY HAND TOOLS
awesome video
I used to have a full shop of power tools, but now mostly use hand tools. While it does take quite a bit longer to complete, there is nothing that beats the feel of the wood that you get through the hand tool.
Nice video Frank!
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
Hand tools have their use and by and large, those who use them likely use them for the enjoyment more than anything. I am purely hand tool and it's simply because it's fun. Anything rough I need for the home, like a set of shelves in the garage, will be entirely power tools and done quickly so I can get back to doing fun stuff
I completely agree with your opinion.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
:)
I think a good thing to keep in mind is for either method your cutting tools need to be sharp. If you can't afford the best saw, at least get a decent blade for the cheap saw. And the cheaper the saw the better blade will be a good investment to save you headaches. And for the second method take the time to keep your plane and saw sharp. That's the key to getting good results with either method. There is literally nothing that will cause people to drop woodworking as a hobby faster than dull blades.
@Wastelandman7000
Жыл бұрын
*ahem* Trust me on this.
Ha love this! I got into woodworking by way of carpentry.... keeping my 100+ year old house standing, and a skilsaw was the first tool I truly invested in. Incredible machine, and it gets tons of use in my woodworking. It's maintained our house, our decks, and it's helped build a lot of our furniture. As always great video thanks. And you've inspired me to hold off on getting a jointer, but my planer still isn't going anywhere
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
I agree man, love a good circular saw!
Tracksaw is worth it for the dust collection alone, not to mention the inherent safety mechanisms. Not cheap, but good quality tools usually aren't, and that includes hand tools.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
The dust collection does look pretty dope on them
thanks
If your doing a hand full of small projects fine but if your doing lots of cabinetry the speed, quality of cuts accuracy a lot less mess of a good track saw breaking down large sheets of plywood cant be beat!
The circular saw with guide or track is in my opinion is the best option for doing plywood cabinets unless you have table saw surrounded with out feed tables. Blade left seems to be best option for this in my opinion and I think Skilsaw is the only one making them presently, Porter_Cable used to make a pretty good one. The Skilsaw has so much torque that kick back can happen easier, and they are heavier. One thing that I found useful is gauge block made for saw/blade to eliminate measuring, but advise to make blade/ saw specific. Put arrows on functional directions to alleviate mess ups and keep in mind when laying out "cut side" of blade. Very helpful video. After cabinet is done you can get back to hand tool wood working for face frame, drawers and doors.
@jimcarter4929
Жыл бұрын
Just checked out that Skilsaw on link, that is a bargain for such a good saw, even has machined base. Get the rafter hook if you do framing.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Great thoughts, thanks Jim! Yeah the price is surprisingly low right now... less than I paid for mine several years ago I think I spent 200 or even 220 at home Depot for the worm drive
FRANK THE HAND PLANER IS IT THE PLANER OR THE BLADE OR BOTH I KNOW STANLEY TOO EXPENSIVE SO WHAT IS A GOOD BACKUP YOURS IS SHAVING THE WOOD PLEASE HELP ME
Hi Frank, I liked your video and I would agree with you on using the straight edge guide and the Circular Saw. How would you rate the Skilsaw that you use to the Ridged Corded Circular Saw. You may not have used the Ridged Saw. The price is the same as your Skilsaw and they are both corded. I will need to replace my old Skilsaw in the near future. Thanks again for the video and any opinion you have would be appreciated.
Great video Frank 👍🙇♂️ I appreciate how you make hand tool woodworking approachable and straightforward.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir glad you enjoyed it
I notice a lot of American wood workers and carpenters have worm drive power saws, how do they compare to a direct drive motor? Worm drive power saws are very rare in Australia
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
It's regional here in the US. I'm probably the only person in Texas with one lol. Best way I can explain it is a high revving speed car (direct drive) vs high power V8 truck (worm drive)
Another way to trim the end of a wide board is to 1. deeply knife line the required cut line. 2. lay the board on the bench with the knife line over hanging the end of the bench. 3. using a saw similar to Frank's start the cut close to but not right in the knife line. 4. slowly maintain the cut at the far side while lowering the saw along the preferred saw cut line next to the knife line. 5. when cut through place the board in the vice and plane to the knife line with a jointer plane. It will give a furniture grade cut off.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a solid method for a crisp finish!
@Timmy2Hands
Жыл бұрын
@@FranksWorkbench This also works for long rip cuts... Check out Christopher Schwarz and his Overhand Ripping Technique kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJNtmMmHfbDJj8o.html
Good no-nonsense tutorial.👍 Tracksaw or clamps + stuff? Not the saw.😉 I like to knife for crosscutting for a nice shiny visual surface to plane too. (Can also pop off a bevel with a chisel to protect those ends but just a personal preference.)
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Great method!
With a straight edge as a guide rail, I can cut accurately with any saw, sure.
I got a bunch of track saw tracks and cut them into various sizes. 1', 2', 4' 8' and whatever else I need. Why? Because, once a circular saw kicked back and almost took off my leg, I went the extra mile to make the effort to keep my limbs in tact. I use the Wen track saw which is 100$ and once tuned, is superb as there isn't any play at all - just a nice clean cut you can push through on track and not have to worry about trying to keep flat against straight edge on the last bit and get some possible gouging unevenness. Of course, this is a more expensive method, but if you do a lot of ripping and cross cutting, it becomes useful. You just build up overtime - for example, I have a 8' table and needed to rip boards on sides so I had one straight edge to run on the table saw - once ripped, run on table saw, flip, run other side and flip again to take a razor thin edge off. Smaller 4' cut is easy, half the track. the 1' and 2' I had to take a 4' track and use a metal saw blade to clean cut to size. Over time they are handy and keep you safe. The straight edge is great too, I just don't like the idea of another incident of a saw flying at my body.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good budget friendly way to go. Especially since all the tracks and accessories can add up to $hundreds or $1k+. I have the wen dust collector and it works just fine
@thenext9537
Жыл бұрын
@@FranksWorkbench I haven't looked at the Wen Dust collection. Wend is doing great on the tool front, been eyeballing their jointer too. I think if you are a person who is detailed, and likes to over engineer things a bit - cheaper tools can help you - once you get them dialed in. I bought machinist squares and blocks and I use them for setting up everything. Ie, once my tablesaw is set to 90 on the dot, I don't touch it and I just check it on important cuts. My fence on my dewalt saw, I have to check it every time for square, I just don't trust the rack and pinion gears. I take a speed square on both sides, set it up and lock it down. Only takes an extra minute to do so. Love your content, take care!
People may or may not know this but the SKILL saw is 3 1/2 inches to the blade on the wide side and 1 1/2 inches on the narrow side .. I've been using my SKILL saw for years to make cabinets... I can do a LOT of set up for $1.500 ...
Nah, even a the cheapest Tracksaw beats out a high quality circular saw. They are a true game changer. Sadly, they are more popular in Europe than in the US.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
A lot of folks sure love them!
It's hard to argue with a $100 wen track saw.
I am a power tool user. I would love to be able to work with hand tools, but of me they are not really practical, as I can not use a hand tool for long enough to become proficient and accurate with them, I am ok with chisels and plane as I tend not to have them in my hands for long. I struggle with screwdrivers as I have Arthritis and it doesn't take long for fatigue to set in within my hands and arms in the tendons, which becomes painful pretty quickly. Even holding cards in my hand play a game soon get painful. So I tend to rely on power tools to enable me to get what work I need to do done. There is definitely more skill in using hand tools, that take time to master. It is because of that when your channel came up in my recommended Channels, I was more than happy to watch your work and be massively impressed with the way you work, which lead to then watching all the videos on your channel as a Subscriber. My Brother in Laws Father was a Carpenter and would only use hand tools, I always enjoy watching him work, when we have worked together or seen a finished job he has done. He is equally complementary of the way that I work or when he has seen work I have done. I learnt a lot from working with a friend over the years. From working with him as a helper to then being given work to do by him. Some of which has ended up in Country Houses. As the Company he used to Work for Carried out work on a few Royal Palaces here in the UK. sadly not the later. It is only in the last 7 to 8 years that I really started to buy more tools and machines to help with the work my House needed doing,and doing to it still.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
It's great enabling you to still enjoy woodworking despite the joint issues. Thanks for the comment!
I prefer hand tools because it does require more skill.
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
I agree and I enjoy the work
Don't you just love the Utoob "woodworking" channels that every video is about their new tool or gadget? Look through their body of videos and maybe have made a single cutting board in 5 years. Walls of red and green.........Just sayin. Thanks for your renaissance approach to the CRAFT of woodworking!
@FranksWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks buddy!
@TrentR42
Жыл бұрын
@mlb3164 like who? What channel does this?