In case you missed the first episode, here's a quote I find beautiful and very inspirational: "I'm ready to face any hostility this world has in store. Some kinds of beauty are beyond gender. When you stop judging people by their sex to see if they are handsome or pretty, all their charms come from the inside. You exude good upbringing and refinement. Your gentle temperament can handle all the ruthlessness in this world. Then I believe everyone would be moved by this. It's the beauty of your soul and not the charm of your looks."

@user-xm4zc6ez2g

5 жыл бұрын

i love chao xiaomi 😌💓

I felt so bad for Mr.C. When he started crying because he knows his girlfriend will leave him, it was so sad.

@admiralspire8867

3 жыл бұрын

If she lied to her that she's a woman disguising as a man, it's only fair for her girlfriend to leave.

@user.coffee

3 жыл бұрын

@@admiralspire8867 bruh he didn't lie he made it clear that he is trans, and he is not a woman disguising as a man. :/ he's a man with female body parts. sex and gender are completely different. and your right, if the girlfriend decides to leave she has every right. but have some respect and understanding of what he's going through. it's super sad that the government make laws for others against trans people when they're doing nothing wrong and living a valid life. being trans is not a disease, or invalid so use his correct pronouns he/him because he is a man.

@SpintoSopranoSexyYea

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I feel like it isn't just the fear of his girlfriend possibly leaving him, but also knowing that so much of reality is stacked against him. It breaks my heart.

I wasn't expecting this video to receiving more hates than likes. This is about a problem that a portion of the world population is suffering from. I don't understand it completely either. But I have to start some where, and I am trying to understand it in order to be a better human and not to offend a person who is going thru this. But after reading the comments I am sad and scared to know what these people go thru every day of their lives. I think they are one of the most strongest people in the world. Any one who has the guts to live on while all this shit is thrown their way in my eyes are Bigger than life. Some day ( i hope in my life time) we would see a world that understands them and accept them as a part of our society.

@groovywooky1008

4 жыл бұрын

Thats a good Statemant! 👍Im Transgender and that you try to understand an giv Respect to LGTBQ is so important ! I send you a lot of Love 🤗💝

@dengnybrito4726

2 жыл бұрын

Could not had said it better myself

It's their body! Who for us to judge?! Let them do whatever makes them happy! Why all the hatred?!

@Lightscribe225

6 жыл бұрын

Because there are plenty of other people oppressed in China that deserve the spotlight a hell of a lot more than trans. To focus on trans instead of people that have been living as minorities for thousands of years is not only poor journalism, it's sickening.

@hex1275

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lightscribe225 trans people have lived as an opressed minority for thousands of years as well, and continue to do so. If you did your research you might have found that out. That doesn't mean other minorities doesn't deserve the same attention. But it doesn't mean trans people deserve less. If you really cared about opressed minorities you might have thought more about this?

@Lightscribe225

3 жыл бұрын

@@hex1275 No not while one is being genocided right now

@ReJolta

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lightscribe225 you realize that you can acknowledge more than one group's suffering correct? Just because one minority's suffering is recognized, doesn't mean that another can't be as well. They're not gonna talk about that in this video specifically because that is not what the video is about- trans rights matter just as much as everyone else's.

@rosiegarza2698

Жыл бұрын

100%

These people are incredibly brave. It's sad to see how people treat them, including the comments here. People please have more love and respect and less hate.

@alex73217

6 жыл бұрын

I like, that they're are still some comments from decent people :D

What a difference money makes when you're living in the world as a trans person.

@darryljones7701

5 жыл бұрын

I'm 54 ,seems too be that's all their looking for if your trying to understand them through social media,and dating sites ,lots of prostitutes and escorts, which is basically the same thing,I think one day their going too see and want to change that image and start dating just for going out and having fun,

@JinruWu

2 жыл бұрын

If you spend younger years in the wrong body building wealth, it will be a whole lot easier when you decide to transition. However that means you have to spend your most energetic years not being who you really are. Tough either way, huh?

so much negativity in the comments. Let people be themselves and let them do it in the best way possible. I've personally fallen in love with each of these individuals (especially Bobbie). They are all so inspiring, and it's so good to see people enjoying their lives and living free and proud of who they are.

@andreaquechingadosteimport5562

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone deserves to be proud of themselves!

I seriously don't understand why can't society, government, people can just let them be what they want... it's their body, it's their life...

@AndrogynousMIE

5 жыл бұрын

@@abbasfaizy4769 I can never have any respect for people who even don't respect the beautiful healthy body they did get at birth. Who even detest their body....instead of being thankful. Breasts and penises are rather strange body parts anyhow.....better get used to it as early as possible. I am a Nature lover. This behavior is extreme unnatural.

@romella_karmey

5 жыл бұрын

Because religion and old tradition never die

@romella_karmey

5 жыл бұрын

@@AndrogynousMIE it's the desire of their soul. Your soul is different from them so stop judging and mind your own fucking natural business.

thanks vice for still recording this video. hope you guys can do more in the near future on this kind of issues.

If you don't like the idea of someone breaking socially-created ideas of gender then all you have to do is look away, or learn some respect & tolerance or communicate with different people (there is never a reasonable excuse for hating another person simply because you are ignorant).

I like how blunt that lady is. Living her life to the fullest...that’s what it is all about

People who detest this content; why do you care? You don't have to be a good person to literally just ignore shit that has nothing to do with you. We're not even asking you to embrace trans people, just stop actively denying their existence and/or right to live their lives.

@pheromonefevers669

5 жыл бұрын

Diane G LMAO trans people have existed before your shitty religion. All of you crazy zealots are misinformed and live under a rock. Pick up a book, put down your precious bible, and learn something. 😂😂😂

@darryljones7701

5 жыл бұрын

Pheromone Fevers ,there's no mention of transgenders in the bible ,their being called the jezzabel spirit, if any are on social media and dating sites they are mostly showing the prostitutes and escorts, another way of prostitution, aren't looking to change that image

@Bk-zt3ti

5 жыл бұрын

Aedan Mccarty Because trans identified males are working extremely hard to erase womanhood. Being a woman is NOT a feeling.

@youtubeshadowbannedme

2 жыл бұрын

@@darryljones7701 the Old Testament of the Bible is simply plagiarizing off of old polytheistic religions that have existed long before Judaism

@fuxia0961

Жыл бұрын

@@Bk-zt3ti how is 0.5 percent of the world's population trying to discard woman hood?

I hate that we live in world where a person simply living there life evokes so much hate.

@SHUTTERSHOT45

6 жыл бұрын

machusla macfhiodhbhuide I know, liberals hate CIA white males for no reason... it's crazy

@jamesfreeman7954

6 жыл бұрын

It's in the blood.

@linnig4759

5 жыл бұрын

*SHUTTERSHOT45* I didn´t know there was a wide spread hate amongst CIA employees? Does CIA employees get attacked on their way to work? Their houses burnt down and things like that? ;-D

@linnig4759

5 жыл бұрын

*Epic girl* Epic respond!

@romella_karmey

5 жыл бұрын

I love hot white males..

Bobby is literally the mom that I always needed in my life

man i aspire to be as confident (and rich) as bobby

Why is it that every single frickin time a topic like transgender people comes up in a vice documentary the comments are absolutely horrendous and the dislikes are abysmal. Have any of you even watched the video? It's just as well made as any other vice production. All this pointless hatred on the internet just makes normal people sad.

last time I checked Bangkok was in Thailand

@rubberchicken1219

6 жыл бұрын

Bobbie was doing her surgery in Bangkok, but she's originally from Hong Kong

@concierge-swimmer5076

6 жыл бұрын

Boobie is a guy my nigga. Use the correct pronoun

@alexevanspoppsychedelicren4158

6 жыл бұрын

Hong Kong is part of China. Just because they speak a different "dialect" (read: different language), doesn't mean that it isn't China. You're trying to operate under semantics, but you're wrong.

@goldenproduc.4669

6 жыл бұрын

Fart

@Algrenion

6 жыл бұрын

dont cut yourself on that edge Goldstein

People being so angry for something that is not happening to them. Oh yes, I'm in KZread.

i look forward to the day when China can accept transgender people . Anyone whos different from the majority of people in China has such a difficult life here,. that is so sad and so unfair

One of my favourite Vice documentaries ! :)

This was a beautiful documentary and so well made. The men and women in this video are so strong. At some points I was brought to tears.

LOL BOBBIE IS A GANGSTER

Who knows the song at the end? I really love it. I love all of them. The editing at the end is wonderful and I love how Bobbie is so passionate and loving:) she’s beautiful

aww the ending voicemail was so sweet, made me happy 😊

Good work vice!

This is out of date, man. USA already started to discuss whether babies can determine their genders and whether we should call them "thembies".

I'm so happy for Bobbi. She's beautiful.

WHAT A WONDERFULLY MADE DOCUMENTARY! GOOD JOB VICE!

Powerfull

Love that Bobbie is going to pay for other trans people surgeries! Awesome!

- Living in China - Having civil rights Pick one

@charlieblah

6 жыл бұрын

Anomalous Cat you shouldn't have to

@_A_D_

6 жыл бұрын

The Chinese people need to overthrow their degenerate government, pronto.

@asdg199

6 жыл бұрын

What does that have to do with the video?

@AozoraUltra2006

6 жыл бұрын

go fuck yourself.

@TrashBinCat

6 жыл бұрын

Gender equality seems a bit far fetched when free speech and the ability to simply criticize your government isn't a thing.

I'm a straight male. If you're gay, bi, trans, or whatever I personally don't care. It's your life, I'm not bothered by it nor am I going to harass someone bc of their choice. We all have our own problems that we need to focus on & not worry about others.

GREAT..

Live and let live. I don't understand why some people can't appreciate other people being happy and trying to live their best life.

Thanks VICE. :)

I'm here for the comments 😃

The louder the hatred, the greater the sexual desire. Those of us who feel secure in our gender identity or sexual orientation can't care less about the choices made by others. However, self-repressed homossexuals often resort to extreme manifestations of homophobia (and, by extension, transphobia, as they can't tell the difference between gender and sexuality).

@Bricktop784

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. To provoke such hostility and for people to feel so threatened by something hints at some massive insecurities about _something_.

@DougW2012pro

6 жыл бұрын

Freud the bushy bearded, drug addict jew and his writings taught you that at some jew run college huh?

@Yoisthatabe

6 жыл бұрын

quad core lemme guess you were too intelligent for school so you dropped out and convinced yourself of how smart you are in your parents house.

@karlliebknecht4889

6 жыл бұрын

M.D. Geist "proper values" is whatever your prejudices and uneducated assessments compell you to uphold. I'm dismissing the rest of your comment as meaningless drivel; you could have saved yourself some time by pasting lorem ipsum; it'd have carried the exact same content worth.

@linnig4759

5 жыл бұрын

*M.D. Geist* You are the one that need to educate yourself about homosexuality (even if transsexuality are the thing this doc are about), "reaction to a childhood trauma"??? From whom did you learn that? Your local uneducated self-proclaimed pastor? There is actually a study about gay men that shows you are more likely to be gay if you have a lot of men around you before you are born, if you for ex. getting born into a family with already 3 older brothers or many male cousins. It´s natures way of reducing the competition of later getting a wife. The study didn´t contain females as I said, but think it´s the same thing there. There´s another study that shows that being exposed to much testosterone during pregnancy makes a female fetus lesbian and a male fetus exposed to more of oestrogene becomes gay, this one I don´t know if it´s scientific facts or a popular and believable theory. Anyway, learn how to respect others even if you are a fanatic religious or a right/wing extremist...

This is beautifully made.

@ivanaraujo6425

6 жыл бұрын

Joselyn Arreguin yet is advertising This gay stuff for no reason but money and feminising nen

12:15 *...For Your Health*

I’m so proud to be thai, Land of LGBT...😘

Might not be a topic I agree with but this is better than a commercial or promotion of has beens.

I feel bad for the “regular” folks who aren’t rich have to deal with the snide remarks.

@romella_karmey

5 жыл бұрын

What do you mean regular. You mean the gays that can't afford surgery?

There is NO WAY that Barbie is 48. I would bet that she was 58.

@seateg12

4 жыл бұрын

She said she was going to tell people on Tinder that she's 48, not that she is 48.....I'm sure she's mid fifties, but still looks great!

Actually, i'd been thinking: "Ooh, she's 'the Caitlyn Jenner of China'...sort of" ({; >] ...! Very interesting, and well-done, video; thank you, **VICE*!*

Being who you are, regardless of what society has to say, not understand or accept its a journey worth the fight!

why are there so many dislikes? someone please explain

Like a boss :D

Why watch and comment if you hate the video so much?

This was awesome! I never thought about transgenders in China, or even gays - as I was taught in school laws are archaic there.

Love who you want to love, be who you want to be. Ignore these hater trolls. I love you guys!

Giving you rich white woman realness

Victoria, at the intro. Has she had thyroid surgery? Looks like a healing scar

that one dude, "im just waiting for the right person to come along. and if that doesnt happen, ill just get an escort". lmao.

In Asia, sometimes I felt like living in a dangerous forest If you shared your story with the people that don't understand you, it's kinda like expose your weakness to the people that want to hurt you. I think they should get to know the person a bit before sharing their story with them. It's a good thing that if they can get their recognition, but before that, I think they should be united and form their own community and network in order to survive. I never have hope for Asia, when you look back in history. Perhaps move to North America or euro is a better option.

THe title is a misnomer.. it says "trans chinese community" but then there are western and thai transpeople / people in this documentary... it's a good documentary but the focus is lost a bit

Bobbie's closet though, I'm jealous 😘

@juliagulia5823

5 жыл бұрын

The he Versace was like a dress at any regular old mall.

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Chinese trans males always have hot girlfriends.

this may be unkind, but...she is incredibly self absorbed....

@MetalizedButt

2 жыл бұрын

he*

Can somebody explain to me, why are people saying "THIS IS A MENTAL ILLNESS" as though we don't know. It is stated right there in the text book DSM-5, gender dysphoria. Why are people reminding others of things that are already obvious? Is there something more to this?

Thailand, not China.

Why are comments even enabled for this.

@darkblue9390

6 жыл бұрын

tolbiac My thoughts exactly, even though I usually don't like it if comments get disabled, but this is a shitshow...

@jamesfreeman7954

6 жыл бұрын

Lols. It's funny.

@terilward59

6 жыл бұрын

It's about freedom of speech! If you don't like it go away, however some people like to understand others no matter their differences! It's called living your life and letting others live their own!!!!!! Grow up

@owainrhysphillips4102

5 жыл бұрын

Freedom of speech isn't what you think it is. Freedom of speech is the ability to voice opinions without those opinions being silenced by the government. If a company doesn't want bigoted little shits smearing innocent people for the world to see they are well within their rights to prevent them doing so

Is there anyway to give the transman funds? Anyway to support him??

i think clubbing is meant for young people between 18-25 , that's the standard in my country idk about the others.

Keep fighting for your dreams, stay strong and fuck the haters

Oh wait, are they Chinese or Thai? I'm confused not only their gender also their nationality. Vice, please advise.

@jemmahenderson9344

6 жыл бұрын

They were Chinese. Bobbi (whose father was from England and mother from Hong Kong) was in Thailand for surgery and moved there (I think) because she experienced less transphobia there. Some of the people were women, some men, some identified with other non-binary gender identities and at least one (from part 1) was gender fluid (that means not sticking to the same gender norms or identity all the time). Gender is a social construct that consists on a bunch of rules and expectations that people are pressured to follow based on their biological sex/their genitals. Much of these rules and expectations are arbitrary (so really meaningless). They differ from place to place and have differed historically but currently almost all are based on patriarchal systems of power. So really, the rate of conformity to gender roles and identities, that are not biological but are social constructs, can be seen as the more confusing and strange phenomenon

I'm here for the comments

Please watch Lushious Massacr discuss how friendship crack because of social media bullies and trolls. @-Ouo

Why do people who hate vice's content stay subscribed?

feel bad for the chinese guy. thanks vice for this. great work

Not quite sure the surgeon referred to being transgender a disease. May the translation was off.

So inspiring to see all these people living their true lives based on who they are on the inside. They are really brave and strong individuals.

Fun fact! Iran's government pays for this surgery.

@peterpalmato467

3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact! Iran's government force gay men to have this surgery

I really hope all of these comments and dislikes doesn't stop vice from creating wonderful videos like this.

Did that doc just call it a disease? 😱

Comments still up, weird.

My name Jeff

Strange how in one of the Palestine-Israel conflict videos people stand with Israel, in another video they stand with Palestinians

And YES i know mis-spelled words. Dont feel like correcting

This is clearly Thailand, why is the title says China?

19:40

yea so rule 1 of watching Vice - don't ever read the comments..

Remember the days when Vice wasn't exclusively about social justice or Trump.

clearly they just want to look beautiful

shouldn't the title be "The Chinese Trans Community"?

I'm a foreigner living in China, and would love to find a way to get in contact with Mr.C and his organisation that seeks to work on transgender and gender identity issues. Is there any way I can contact him? hopefully someone can get in touch and let me know!

Yooo

Comments are Cancer.

She’s look older than 48

Anyone who's trans, i wouldn't continue through the comments... Lots of hate

@om3g4z3r0

6 жыл бұрын

Who would have thought that gay men doing surgical disguise to fool straight men to fuck their gay ass would generate such hate? do these people believe transgenderism is deception?

@kolemay8161

6 жыл бұрын

TheHueisOver™ Go fuck yourself

@darryljones7701

5 жыл бұрын

You should have also said for guys that would date transgenders also,I'm 54,have a nice day,

wtf those guys were thai, not chinese

@AnjaFourie

6 жыл бұрын

leneay Watch Part 1.

I thought this video is going to be about chinese trans MMA fighting competition. :(

@henriquept1224

6 жыл бұрын

Junkie KJK lol

@establishedcontributor

6 жыл бұрын

"Out of Place: The Trans Chinese Community Fighting"

He is Hottt!

98% of the people in the comment section: HIIIISSSSS

Wanna was cute.

These comments are absolutely disgusting. I am sickened.

@SHUTTERSHOT45

6 жыл бұрын

Ezra Anderson TRIGGERED

@andersonezraviolin

6 жыл бұрын

Surprise surprise, here come the close-minded internet trolls. Yayyyyyy

@edwardnovick9904

6 жыл бұрын

Good get sick

@andersonezraviolin

6 жыл бұрын

Edward Novick Oh, I see. So I'm supposed to be sickened. Glad to know there are so many good people on Earth.

@andersonezraviolin

6 жыл бұрын

meow Yeah

U gotta be kidding, those people are from Thailand.....and the title is about Chinese, WTF

@linqizhe

5 жыл бұрын

bobbie went to thailand to have surgery shes originally from hong kong and the guys from somewhere in china but he definitely wasnt in thailand

C'mon, don't spread hate, if you disagree with this then just live your life the way you want to and let others live their lifes the way they want to, why is that so hard to do? Damn

@henriquept1224

6 жыл бұрын

juliana arbillaga we can still have our thoughts though

@julianacuc

6 жыл бұрын

Henrique Pt Of course, but you can express your opinions without being disrespectful

@Anthony69420

6 жыл бұрын

lol we got anyone over here boys

@julianacuc

6 жыл бұрын

M.D. Geist Well, being trasgender is not considered a mental illnes, therefore people who are trasgender are not insane and it is actually a very ignorant observation for you to make as you have no scientific proof to back you up. Second of all, this is the definition of civilization "an advanced state of human society, in which a high level of culture, science, industry, and government has been reached." So, I consider that letting people live their lifes in freedom as long as they are not hurting anybody is closer to the definiton of civilization than saying that people are insane just because they decide to do whatever they feel like with their body and the way they live their life. Also, homosexuality and transexuality have been dated back to the first registered civilizations, so, they have been a part of civilizaton ever since the concept itself was created. But then again, if you still disagree with this way of living, you're completly free to do so, just let the rest of the world be free to do what they want as well.

@FaithRox

6 жыл бұрын

juliana arbillaga Body dysmorphia is a mental illness. Full. Stop. Stop spreading lies because you think you're being nice.

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this titile is a paradox itself lol.