"Innocence is the fetishization of inexperience.” I don’t remember who said it, but it seems spot on to me.

Isn't it deeply weird and worrying that 50+ politicians are openly obsessed with teenage girls clothing

Holy shit, the response to that letter is absurd. The letter almost reads like a congratulatory youtube comment and yet the guy read it and reached right into his pants

what truly hurts is the fact that some people justify banning modest clothing oh “because in some nations women are forced to wear it”.. but now you are forcing them not to wear it.. it’s just oppressing more women overall.. two wrongs dont make a right

thank you for speaking up for french muslim girls. I wish there were a broarder solidarity movement. they don't deserve all this hate and punishment..

As a trans man i have an immense sympathy for teen girls. In the years before i knew i was trans i desperately tried to feminize myself before realizing it just wasnt me

when i heard the first lines of that letter i thought "god no please not an underage girl hitting on her teacher that is so uncomfortable" but when it progressed i was kinda relieved that obviously it wasnt anything other than her appreciating his teaching style. until you showed the teachers interpretation 😭😭 thats auch a horrible situation to be in. i distinctly remember being a teenage girl and just being nice and comfortable talking to men but having to learn that the most normal things will be interpreted in really gross, disturbing ways. like even when i got more guarded, they would still find ways to make me uncomfortable by assuming i had sexual intentions at an age where the concept of having sex was completely unimaginable to me. and someone else thinking about me and seeing me in that way, before i myself ever did, was so intensely embarrassing, i still feel sick thinking about it today.

The whole obsession with teens and children as a whole is really weird

Its funny because I found myself thinking about this a couple of days ago. I was at a ice cream shop and i saw two girls, around 12, dressed in a provocative way and pretending to be adults, even smoking at some point. Don't get me wrong, I do think that a lot of men are obsessed with very young girls regardless if they are still childish or acting more mature, but I found myself wondering if that's really their choice or if they've been pressured to grow up this fast to be more accepted and keep up with the standards they see everywhere. Somehow it was sad to see that being and acting like a child is not considered normal anymore, especially for girls.

I was a weird teen, and as it happens, a queer one. I did try to provoke people with my dress, but definitely not boys or men. I dressed as weird, conservative and feminine as I could, both to annoy the adults who thought I should be attracting boys and my fashionable peers. I just wanted to embody "different" since I did not consider lesbianism as a valid option yet. My interests, unusual for the time and place, also defined my clothing since innocence or provocation wasn't a consideration.

Labeling pornstars as "teens" is a huge problem, even if they're not.

This ties into that mindset of "men can't help themselves when they're aroused so women need to be modest" like its some hypermasculine flex ie "if you are a male who doesn't think this way you are obviously not straight"

If these people actually had the slightest interest in preventing the sexualisation of teen girls they’d address the endless sexual harassment by their own peers and adult men. They’s address 🌽 and the harmful affects it has on how men view women and girls. Any woman I’ve spoken to about it says they were sexually harassed by adult men in high school far more than they are in adulthood. I was sexually harassed by adult men more often when I was in primary school than I have been since I lost my baby face in my mid 20s. The fuss about teenage girls clothing choices is part of the sexualisation they experience, not a solution to it

It's not uncommon that children have crushes on adults in their early teens, and it's not common to write "keep it up" letters to teachers, so if I was the teacher I'd be cognizant about that. Basically, a good response would be a carefully worded "feels good to know my teaching style is effective, I try my best for my students and getting direct feedback like this is rare" part before turning to pointing out that they've also done well to apply themselves to learning poetry, congratulating them on that, encouraging them to "keep it up" as well, and telling them to not rule out becoming a poet if it interests them.

I feel like the obsession with teenage girls is an obsession with the unpredictable. Especially in a time when a good portion of the western world is walking both towards and away from feminist values and ideals. I feel like we're making the same mistake with teenage girls that we've been making with teenage boys which is to completely ignore who they are as people and to focus on what we want them to be. For girls it's an overt sexualization and adultification and for boys it's a more covert one. The whole thing just weirds me out.

I would say that for me, losing my innocence had nothing to do with sex. I'm American and I grew up during the Iraq war. When I was 17 and taking US history my teacher had us watch documentaries about various wars the US had fought in. I was assigned to watch a documentary about the Iraq war. For the first time ever I felt like I truly understood just how brutal my own country was and how we didn't even seem to see the Iraqi people as fully human. I see losing one's innocence as when someone starts to have a broader understanding of the world.

Even when I was closeted and pretending to be straight, I never understood society's obsession with young women and literal children. It's gross and has only made me highly wary of straight men.

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It always seems to me that most adults completely forget what it was like to be a teen.

I'm not even Muslim and I own a few Abayas. They're comfortable and stylish. Banning them is absurd.