Collecting vinyl is like collecting playing cards. Half the fun is finding copies that interest you. What ever quality/copy you are willing to accept is up to you. We all have a budget we have to operate with in. Some people can buy rare/pristine copies off eBay/discogs and some can only afford thrift store records. All things are truly subjective, It’s all about what provides enjoyment.

@HTJB60

Жыл бұрын

As a POOR Pensioner, I buy CD's as they are cheaper & play much better than a cheap crappy LP.

One of the more entertaining videos in a while!! Laughed myself silly. And Stones vs. Beatles is an invalid argument as the 2 bands are so different from each other!

@obsprisma

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The Beatles are more symphonic while the Stones have a metronome as a drummer.

@sawyer3715

Жыл бұрын

I'd say the right answer to the Stones VS. Beatles debate is the Kinks, lol

@grooveyerbouti

Жыл бұрын

It's a ridiculous trumped up argument that even now people get silly over at end of the day you prefer what you prefer or you could be really controversial and like both!

@stepheng8779

Жыл бұрын

​​@@sawyer3715 Yeah love The Kinks, Stones were up there with The Beatles when Brian Jones was around. Afterwards just another decent band.

Loved the vid! Wanted to share one important comment from the perspective of a younger member of the VC! The VC as a whole is so amazing & inclusive & full of some of the coolest people! Lately - for some reason - there has been an uptick of more seasoned members directing their critiques toward vinyl trends, which is gatekeeping many younger members & turning many of them off to participating, knowing they will be disrespected for liking what they like, or even just asking questions. How did this happen? It is the hating on "people who play Crosleys", shaming of younger members who only hang records on their Urban Outfitters rack, attacking sites that sell multiplied colored vinyl variants, digital vs analog, overpaying in auctions, motivation to "flip".... I could go on. All of these perspectives aren't totally off-base. Sure, there could be more info about proper playback, care, & understanding throughout the WHOLE vinyl industry (working on providing that through my channel). But this is a hobby. Encourage younger members! This is a prospective market, & people's likes will ultimately dictate simply supply & demand. The vinyl world will change again, new generations will discover old things, & the joy is in the journey, between the grooves, & having shared experiences with the cool community! Keep on grooving your way

@ursaprime

Жыл бұрын

sell sell sell

@jimb032

Жыл бұрын

Love to see younger members in it! As long as you don't call them "vinyls"-thats unacceptable. 🤣 We are supposed to be getting younger people in it so it lives on. I inherited my father's collection and we enjoyed 45's together. If he had "today's attitude" I would not be into it.

@groovingyourway

Жыл бұрын

@@jimb032 Lol - & true!! Appreciate the perspective

@glennandadriansrocktalk

Жыл бұрын

​@@groovingyourway For what it's worth - I don't care what record player someone has - including Crosleys etc - I'm just glad to hear you have a record player. I personally have no use for colored vinyl, but it doesn't offend me and I don't hate on it. I'm quite happy to see younger people discover the joys of vinyl, regardless of how they get into it. Especially hoping it also sparks interest in all the great music of the last, oh, 100 years. Have a great time.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

All good points. Cheers!

I discovered Pink Floyd with The Division Bell so it's always been my favourite album of theirs and probably my favourite album of all time.

The tone controls on an amplifier are there to compensate for a less than ideal listening room. Use 'em if you need to.

This definitely proves "different strokes for different folks". Some of it no doubt has to do with when you came of age and what music was out there for you to get into.

@dasherf17

Жыл бұрын

...or like in the bicycle business, "different spokes for different folks...!" ...sorry, Daniel...had to...

Lyrics are not only not important, they are often detractors. When I was growing up most of what I listened to had lyrics but that was because all popular music had them. Now, as an adult I have access to all the music of the world and I spend most of my time steeped in jazz, exotica or classical.

I'm 69 years older than collecting vinyl since the 60s. I love colored vinyl. As far as I'm concerned, those that are not fans are like Henry Ford who said you can get a model t in any color as long as it's black. Colored vinyl makes it interesting and doesn't damage sound quality at all. For me often times it has become part of the experience.

What I love the most about collecting vinyl, is the expense and inconvenience! 🤣

Wow! That was so much fun! The funniest part is I agree with some of the most outrageous comments like Led Zeppelin being overrated 😅

Really enjoyed this video, Frank. It was a lot of fun to watch. That last comment was a great finale!

Great video Frank!! It just goes to show you that it takes a lot of different people to make the world go 'round!! Keep on spinning Frank 👍

Nice mix of good advice and positive perspectives and just general trolling! Great video idea!

Very entertaining video. Lots of fun hearing what everyone in the VC think about records etc

Totally agree with how some coloured vinyl is a pain in the ass for seeing where the grooves are. But clear vinyl is even worse, especially when accompanied with vague (or sometimes no) label information.

This was the funniest video I've seen in a long time. You should make this a yearly thing (or bi-annual, maybe).

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, this was a lot of fun. If the video does well, I will definitely do more.

Hi Frank, this is great - love hearing others opinions especially when they challenge my own. Just goes to show that music is a very personal thing and you either get it or you don’t. Cheers Matt

Hi Frank, nice to see you. A very fun video. Thank you for making my Sunday afternoon. Have a super week.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tino. Have a great week as well.

One of your best videos, love all the remarks can't quit laughing 😅.

I love the Pet Rock one..🔥this was a lot of fun and will most definitely make a few people's blood pressure surge😂 hope you and yours are well and having a good weekend.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, you too.

Yes, ALL of the early Cooper albums are great. But "Pretties" is my personal favorite just because it's so out-there. 1 1/2 minute songs with 15 changes, that kind of thing. Oh...I almost forgot; a friend of mine said that the song "LIving" sounds like The Beatles got roaring drunk and bashed that one out. Ha! Great episode, Frank and I hope your cold goes away real soon. Get well and stay well!

@grooveyerbouti

Жыл бұрын

Huge Cooper fan Pretties for you has it's moments not for me thier best I actually think Easy action might be my favourite Alice Cooper group album,although a tough call to make.

@jhutt8002

Жыл бұрын

I guess this may be unpopular opinion to some, possibly, but I think Alice Coopers solo work since 1985 outclasses anything he or the band did before.

This topic was a fun one. The potential for all hell breaking loose was there, but you umpired it perfectly. 👍

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

The Dark Side Of The Moon is one of those rare works that knows no genre and 50 years later still doesn't sound dated at all. It's an album that future generations with still be discovering and listening to.

@tomfurgas2844

Жыл бұрын

That album was one of those rare gems that had the perfect confluence of the songwriter/performers and the recording producer (Alan Parsons). Together it added up to more than the sum of it's parts. Combine that with the excellent cover design by Hipgnosis and it's truly miraculous.

@laudanum669

Жыл бұрын

@@tomfurgas2844 I'll take Alan Parsons "I Robot" over "The Dark Side Of The Moon" any day, sorry.

@HTJB60

Жыл бұрын

Why be SORRY ? Personal choice. @@laudanum669

@who0icu812

5 ай бұрын

Why

Fun video, looking forward to another one someday!

Really enjoyed this. Would you think about doing this segment again at some point. Hope you are felling better! Cheers!

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, for sure... if this one does well, I will do it again. Thanks for watching!

This is a great video, love hearing these hot tales

Fantastic video, Frank, so much fun!!

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Motörhead and UFO don't get enough spotlight on being influences. Metallica and Iron Maiden wouldn't exist without them

Excited my comment got mentioned, about lyrics. I’ve always considered vocals to be an instrument in a song or piece of music but never necessary for a song to have emotional resonance. A piece of music moves me based on the music not what words a person is singing.

@alexcabal8037

Жыл бұрын

Agree. But everyone I explain this to thinks I'm crazy.

@patbarr1351

Жыл бұрын

When I hear an instrumental on an album, I get the feeling the artist worked harder to keep things interesting, ie. there's more variety in the composition & arrangement.

@who0icu812

5 ай бұрын

Words are secondary.

Interesting episode Frank. But the truth is opinions are speculative. Everyone like something that another person may not. All you have to do is look at speakers to see this division. Some like bright...some do not. Some like redheads...some like blondes. 😁Some like trucks some like fast cars. I think it is great personally. People talking vinyl and gear.....having different opinions is to me....a wonderful thing to discuss over a rum and coke. 🙂 All the best to you and yours Frank. Be safe. Hugs from Newfoundland. Rod

@Protometal66

Жыл бұрын

I agree Rod. I enjoy reading different opinions. It's when it gets to the Your opinion is wrong that starts to frustrate me. I don't understand having an issue with someone else's opinion. Made the comment just last week that Ozzy would be the biggest loss in heavy metal .....for me. I had someone continuously want to argue that when I specifically said for me. Like I said , I don't understand how some feel we are all supposed to think the same thing.

Missed the opportunity to post something regarding this, so here I go with 7 observations that may rub various people the wrong way and yet I'm still going to sleep very well tonight. 1. Van Halen vs Van Hagar.... Van Hagar is a softer sound, a pop-ish/rock-ish radio friendly sound. A nice safe cozy unremarkable vanilla sound. In other words, if the Carpenters became a rock band...they'd be Van Hagar...but i digress. That is why the very last thing I need is listening to Van Hagar sing about things like love. No thank you, I'd much rather go runnin' with the devil because Van Halen ain't talkin about love...which is why Jamie's cryin' in the first place. 2. On Iron Maiden.... If their lead singer never sang a single lyric I'd be a huge fan, but the minute I hear Julia Childe start singing....I'm leaving the room or changing the station. 3. On Mettalica...To me Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem make much better music in their sleep...if muppets slept. 4. Pat Boone is a misunderstood genius. 5. Air Supply sang nothing but melodramatic show tunes. They should do Kleenex commercials... 6. Comparing the Rolling Stones to the Beatles is a waste of energy. They're very different bands. The former, though very good has wayyyy over-stayed their welcome. Now it's like watching a bunch of mummified raisins trying to sing as if they're still 25 years old. The latter, however, left on top of their game leaving a masterful body of work that's influenced generations of musicians from here to Tatooine and back again. Using critical thinking, one cannot point to a decline with the Beatles but the Stones, it's not a decline, it's an avalanche of ho-hum mediocrity that's only been matched by Coldplay & Maroon 5. The Jawas would agree... 7. The Cars' 1980 album "Panorama" is their masterpiece start to finish, so sayeth the Moony.

The Tony Martin albums are underrated!

That was fun, do it again, mostly so I can chime in on the second round

Frank, I think that question brought out the best trolls. 😁

Sherry is the brains behind Ch33 and Frank is the teleprompter reading robot.

@yvesisevil

Жыл бұрын

🤣

4:48 - I always thought that when listening to UK indie band *Carter USM.* Without the enclosed lyrics, you were stuffed! Just this Cockney voice yelling at you!

Loved this video. So entertaining😀

How can you like Metal, it's crap. How can you like emo, it's crap. How can you like country, it's crap. How can you like Swedish Black Metal, it's crap. How can you like polka, it's crap. How can you like classical, it's crap. How can you like rap, it's crap. How can you like jazz, it's crap. etc etc. I've heard it all.

@obsprisma

Жыл бұрын

In other words, you don't like music in general, it's crap???

@who0icu812

5 ай бұрын

That's crap

That was an awesome episode!

I got one for ya lol Hand pressed vinyl prices. Companies will charge and people will gladly pay $200 plus because somebody took a plastic puck, stuck it in a press, pushed a button, and pulled a lever. I know there's more to it but essentially it's a 4 step process that takes less than a minute to complete...! I get it "BUT WAIT! the rarity, they only pressed 25 in that varient". Lol it took em an hour to do that...

I agree with Travis, the Killer Dwarfs should have achieved mainstream success, they were a great band of the 80's!

Great video!! I get a kick out of some of the opinions of others.

I have a Walmart pressing of Black Crows “Shake Your Money Maker” and it sounds fantastic. This colored vinyl thing is the biggest of myth- black vinyl //is// colored vinyl- meaning the PVC is dyed black.

Fun show. Please do more of these results shows.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

I would like to do it again.

To the posters who mentioned XTC as one of the greatest bands as well as Weird Al's band, +1 to both sentiments. XTC deserve so much better than what they've gotten and their alter-egos, The Dukes of Stratosphear, are essential listening for psych fans.

Stylus is not the most important part of the turntable. It is the most important at cheap turntables, but at higher end levels a good transport makes night and day difference, a good arm is important too. These two needs to be high quality to let the cartridge shine. I see no point to put a $3k cartridge on a $1k turntable, it will not be able to show its qualities.

@jhutt8002

Жыл бұрын

Eh. When you're at that level, I don't think there's a point to give advice "What's most important part of turntable"...😂 Most people don't have 1k turntable to begin with. I'd say 99 % of people listening vinyl don't even have 3k invested in their whole system. So it is definitely true statement for people outside that 1 % who actually buy + 1k cartridge for their system. btw. turntable worth < 1k is not "cheap". I'd say if you go under 300 brand new, that is cheap. Used, there isn't really that specific price points to follow...

Great video. Loved it

Fare Warning album was Cool 😎 , Eddie snuck in Studio After Hours to fix the mix . Total innovator who knew what he wanted

Well done Frank you dispelled a lot of myths with this video. At the end there was thumb nail asking for unpopular Rock and Roll questions. My question is: Do we really need a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Is it more than a rubber stamp on an artist's career?

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Good question...

@patbarr1351

Жыл бұрын

I've had the same thought, but a lot of artists say they were genuinely touched to be inducted.

Hugely entertaining! I don't think listeners give some artists enough of a chance. Both Rush & Fleetwood Mac have changed greatly over their long careers. (I won't listen to early Rush.)

EVH BEST GUITARIST EVER

Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band's recording, Trout Mask Replica, is one of the greatest albums ever.

@matweb8195

Жыл бұрын

Damn right it is. Cover kicks ass too.

@patbarr1351

Жыл бұрын

Somebody wrote that but I noticed Frank skipped over that comment. Maybe he thought it was fast and bulbous!

@ChromeDestiny

Жыл бұрын

I have an odd take on Trout Mask, I don't hate it but I think there was a better double album to be had in what was put out as two separate albums cut in '68, Strictly Personal and Mirror Man. Also the early 70's Magic Band albums when they go back to the psychedelic blues sound of their debut again, Spotlight Kid and Clear Spot are really good.

Great show Frank. Keep it up.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated

Hi Frank, I really enjoyed this video. Hopefully, you will do more Q&A to anger up the blood. Lol. I agree with the person about the lyrics. It is all about the overall sound to me

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Glad you dug the video.

Sorry I missed out on this Mine is that modern rock isn’t that bad, there are some really good stuff like The Strokes, Wet Leg or King Gizzard

Brilliant video!!

Colored vinyl is not new it goes back to the late 50's i know because i have some.

OMG! That was to funny! I have to believe that most of those "bold" statements were very tongue in cheek, but I also get the sense that a few of those guys actually believe themselves. Bahaha 😆😆

4:40 - "The best band in the business is Weird Al's band" Man that sooooo true! See them live if you don't believe us, you think Damon and myself later :)

To the Walmart and Target record pressing, i had a lot of issues from color record and multiple color records with the pops withe the fused color fused.

Frank, I miss the original Channel 33 theme song!

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I haven't officially retired it... just debating what to do with it.

This was awesome! So fun.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Unmasked is one of my favorite KISS albums too!

I will say this for George Lynch, "Kiss of Death" has a killer riff and "Dream Warriors" is amazing.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@pepperonnie8740

Жыл бұрын

Dont forget Mr Scary instrumental! Loved Back For The Attack

@DamonBrazzellUkesploitation

Жыл бұрын

@Pepperonnie the band was so appreciative of what Nightmare 3 did for the album they actually gave producer Rachel Talalay a platinum record when it sold a million copies.

@who0icu812

5 ай бұрын

Very underrated

One of the best KZread videos that I have watched in ages. Very interesting opinion’s some of which I agreed with but saying Jimmy Page is sloppy is complete nonsense. To me he’s the joint greatest of all time along with Mike Oldfield. I also love Beck, Clapton and Brian May.

I just found out my parents own one of those suitcase type record players. I never knew they had one. I was so surprised, my parents especially my dad was an audiophile kind of guy. Always the best. And put everything on reel to reel tape. But it wasn't Crosley. It's big, heavy and wooden. It has a CD player, and radio as well. I think it's perfectly fine to listen to the radio on it, or the CD. It surprisingly has a fairly decent sound. I guess because it's wooden and huge, and heavy. My mom got it out because that's the only thing in the house that plays at 78 speed. And my mom wanted to listen to my dad's old 78 Rock and Roll records. Today is the one year anniversary of my dad's passing. I was shocked seeing those old 78s still in their original heavy paper sleeves. I have to get my mom some good sleeves. Some of those are Chuck Berry 78s. And my mom was touching the record, and picking up the arm and dropping it on the record. I was like No, don't do that. Mom you're killing me.

I like a light snap, crackle, and pop when the needle drops and between songs. But when the music is playing, no.

Lol that was very entertaining. The best was the Monkees lmao

@mauriceprudhomme5296

Жыл бұрын

WHAT??! No wayyyy…

Kinda agree with Marek on lyrics. I'm biased, though. I grew up with songs in English before I learnt it. I still listen to songs in languages I don't understand. About The Ramones, punk might have been invented in the US but the Brits did it better. Tone controls on the amp? That's a resounding yes.

Hey Frank. Why did you say Mike, formerly of vinyl storage solutions? Interested because I recently watched your videos with Mike before pulling the trigger on a couple of packs of outer sleeves from VSS. I should have them on my records this Tuesday. Cheers from Burlington ON.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

He recently sold the company, but as far as I know, it's still based in Winnipeg and not much has really change (other than the ownership).

One thing leftout of the conversation of speakers. I rotate my speakers at least once a year. Unlike the debate over vinyl and cds, you can actually hear differences with speakers!

I love how I was the last comment!!! Lol!

Great stuff Frank and definitely some controversial views on this weeks show. If I were to add to that, I would say - Vinyl is for speakers whilst CD is for headphones. Billy Idol is nothing without Steve Stevens and the only decent song to come out of Fleetwood Mac is "Oh Well" ??!!?? Keep on spinnin !!

@johnreuter4916

Жыл бұрын

Green Manalishi

Jeep owner. You saved yourself Frank otherwise we would have had words. LOL

@chrislj2890

Жыл бұрын

Man, you Italians are touchy.

I agree on the Ozzy albums. No more tears was the last great one. The latest one is pretty good. The ones in between are ok but nothing stands out

Really enjoyed reading opinions of other listenters.

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Animals is my favorite PF album by far, Presence is my fave LZ & Fair Warning my fave VH.

I like Coloured Vinyl records, but I think it's the same as a limited edition CD set, or something of that ilk. It is kind of a gimmick, but if you're a big fan of that artist, you might want something *more* than the standard release. I don't go for the coloured exclusively, but if the option for coloured is there, and it doesn't cost a ton extra, I might pick it up. I gotta admit, i'm a sucker for the splatter and fun coloured stuff. End of the day though, it's about the artist, and the music.

Wow! If Dark Side Of The Moon is average then I'd love to hear what he considers above average!

Some of the craziest comments I've ever heard! 🤣

I like The Pink Floyd much better than Pink Floyd.

CDs annoy me cause they can be better but so often now they're mastered horribly. I also think the record industry had something potentially great in high res digital that they totally pissed away.

Awesome video Frank!! You went out with a bang!! He’s one of my best friends but the Monkees are better than the Beatles is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard 🤣🤣👍🤘🤘

@Channel33RPM

Жыл бұрын

Haha... I figured the Monkees comment was a good way to end it!

@who0icu812

5 ай бұрын

They couldn't even act.

Controversial indeed.. I think some of those folks may be under the influence though. Yikes! 🥴😅

man, i know this is an old video, but some of my favorite songs, i couldn't sing half the lyrics and don't understand most of them. da doo doo do, de doo doo dah, what? Hey i don't understand poetry, but i like music. So i love music/songs, but the lyrics aren't necessarily key. Riders in the Storm, could have been Pizza's in the oven, and it still would be an awesome tune. YMMV

Speak of the Devil is still my favorite Ozzy live album hands down. That opening rendition of Symptom of the Universe kicked off my love affair with Sabbath proper -- and it's not even the original band!!!

Actually, I think that comment about The Stones/Beatles/Who/Ramones isn’t that far off, as what the Ramones were doing was reminding people that The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and The Who (before the experimenting of the Psychedelic era came in) were Bands to be influenced by.

I agree with Hester.

Wish You Were Here is my favorite Pink Floyd album but Division Bell isn't really on my list of great albums.

Ok, I'll add another one. The police are the only band that can play reggae and make it sound good.

I love coloured vinyl

I would have said something like this "How some people see trash everywhere. I feel that sometimes something is called trash though it might be also something else."

Everyone knows the story that in 62 a record company refused to sign the Beatles, because they thought that "guitar bands" and not "in". That company was DECCA who has signed the Rolling Stones then in 64. So: there would be no Stones without the BEATLES ! FACTS!

The Non Beatles fans don't know wheres they are missing!

@SaintMartins

Жыл бұрын

Beatles fans can't spell & John Lennon was confirmed as a violent abusive husband towards his 2 wives & 1 girlfriend.

I love balance by Van Halen. I just listen to it the other day man could be on my top two Van Halen albums

Love the Division Bell

bro that zeppelin take was just somebody trolling. seriously to tell me Zep 1,2 or zoso are not good. come on now...

I have 2 Rotel receivers.When I bought them the salesman told me don't buy an amp you'll just f@#k it up.There is hardly any distortion

I was angry that day but I stand by my words. Lol

Frank, definitely a funny video I'm in huge beatlefan I grew up with all those bands from the beginning😃 The funniest one was the guy said the Ramones are better than the the who the stones and the Beatles 🤪 just don't know what to make of him 😐