We need peer-to-peer network, which is the future for a Free and open internet! #DecentralizeTheWeb

@snackers7

4 жыл бұрын

You have to have your own army to defend the hardware which will base on

@RmxManOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

@@snackers7 torrent

@BruceArmstrong09121997

4 жыл бұрын

Issues are in pure peer to peer .. 1Unless u know their direct IP or something (assuming everyone have port forwarded connection) 2.Connected IP might not be completly secure 3. Means we can't connect to different IP's that we don't know 4.google will be useless ..no search engines fetch different IP (cause it doesn't know IP's that are online or new and etc...) I think peer to peer should be done with a centralized registry (should be secure).. So that. Search engines can fetch new different IP that are currently online.... But it will be still peer to peer ...

@monsDK

4 жыл бұрын

it easy to make for long range just need an old sat dish and a old or new router . made one long time ago to make private network between friends. even with the low power output from a router you get a surprisingly long range. i have even used mine to borrow wifi spots from far away and that dish is only 35 cm in dia. www.exe64.com/mirror/wokfi/

@ponkaaaaa

4 жыл бұрын

>use p2p >hacker finds ur ip address >get ddosed sounds fun

Thank you for showing us the content limitations of this system.

I have the previous version of the board. I live in eastern North Carolina in the USA. I can point my LNB at about 50 degrees and get the signal. It really does work.

@moodberry

4 жыл бұрын

I live in NC also. But he says I can stream video. What kind of performance can I expect streaming video? I want to use this to stream video from a live cam in a wilderness area where there is no cell service or internet.

@JakeTheN3rd

4 жыл бұрын

@@moodberry To my Knowledge, othernet does not stream video. They do however stream Radio (audio only). That is so-so, If you just use the LNB it comes with it is not the best quality, Its like listening to an AM station (its kind of noisy). There is also no way to upload information to the satelite as this is a downlink serivce. If you want to try streaming a video from somewhere, maybe look at amateur radio TV or ATV lots of rules though so do your research.

A built in full encyclopedia, almanac & more scientific /biological/ tech related wiki articles would make something like this a lot more useful I know they could do this, in 1993 we could get an entire encyclopedia on a CD with 400MB to spare

@karli34

Жыл бұрын

Yes. But since then (30 years later now) the global knowledge has increased by a factor of 10 at least. Not to mention the public internet was in it's baby diapers at that time and most digital tools were not invented nor developed.

@privateger

Жыл бұрын

The entire English wikipedia is 89 gigabytes.

@russellm7530

Жыл бұрын

I always thought television should have been used more that way from its beginnings. Instead it has been used for entertainment, propaganda and mind control and the entertainment is usually a combination of the other two.

@markgreen2170

Жыл бұрын

@@karli34 "global knowledge has increased " ...more like 'global BULL_SHIT has increased!' by a factor of at least 10x --- fify

I enjoyed that, a service I was not aware of.

excellent vid... I've been sniffing these for years. GNU radio can also be used with almost any SDR receiver. My personal favorite being any of the excellent knockoffs of HackRF from Asia:)

@russellm7530

Жыл бұрын

I just ordered a hackrf 1 knockoff. Do you still like yours?

Okay, this is very cool! Never heard of the othernet before - thanks for the edumacation!

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome

Wow In a few youers we can all post pictures -If your speed is more than 20kb and you live in USA! Great future in this project!

love it..... you just keep surprising us Matt

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome :-)

Great stuff Matt. Just downloaded your APRS app. Keep the channel great work mate.

Thanks for bringing this.

Great idea. I would take three but I am skint.

OUTNET Hello from Earth!

@SellamAbraham

4 жыл бұрын

You might want to point your dish at the sky where the satellites are.

You cover some very interesting stuff. Thanks

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

Looks like a great beginning. I've read good stuff about it all. Excellent time to invest in the indevor. 😀 📷☕☕

@Midnight-ACE

3 жыл бұрын

📷

the dish is a off set dish not oval so if uk is restricted why not motorise the dsih with a hh mount thats a motorised mount that tracks the arc where the sattelites sit-you could opt for a mount nthat will find geo stationary sattelites but for what ye need for i cant see the point...use a universal lnb that does horizontal vertical left anf right-now yer could source a old skool bskyb squarial or micro dish as they have lnbs that are either left or right so if it was left an yer wanted right yer simlply turn the lenb to its side on its mount-now a motor dish looking at your garden tells me yer never ever going to get far west and east sattelites so from where the dish in the vids pointing im assuming 28east or 19 east? so looking from there i recon yer could go 33 east maybe 42 east - maybe 27 west - 45 west-if the dish was up a height this could give access to one or two more as the trees are in the way just....this will give yer access to shed loads of sattelites on the arc some are only for live news feeeds my two best live feeds were death of dianna spencer and colonel gaddafi getting dragged down the street but ivce seen these links for internet al over many diff sattelies...thats on Ku band only so get yer hands on a old betting shop dish these are the ones with the lnb in the middle of the dish these are rpime focus dishes so buy a cheap c band lnb and a disec switch so two or more dishes can share one cable to the reciever or n yor case pc........with c band some of the far west statliets are barzilain oreinteated so theres yer speed upted i recon...downside to cband yer need a bigger dish as the signals are weak as kittens yer could go to 3mter dishes and bigger-but a 1.2 meter dish for either ku or starter kit for cband will be a bonus to what yer doing-try using a installed not live linux disto see what that brings up as linux used to make all the sft ware for satt recivers and such-some linux comes with ham radio pre installed etc

Yes i understand - this is for recieving only at this point however satelite internet will eventually be both

Is othernet still operational? See the kits for pretty cheap and considering having as a backup.

APRS support, nice

my god that taskbar man!

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

The desktop is worse 😩😩

So that what happen to them, but it might be a bit to late for them, thanks to StarLink and rival's.

Great video as we are used to see 👍. Still my question is: Is there a method to receive outernet without the dreamcatcher board? Maybe Raspberry Pi or SDR Uno or the dreamcatcher image in virtual maschine? Since we can receive QO-100 I think it is possible to receive outernet. Thanks

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Well, when it was on L-Band you used to be able to use an SDR receiver, but as it's not on Ku band I am not too sure. I'm sure we could take the IF from the LNB but I have not investigated whether or not there is any software to decode the baseband. Maybe the forum might help with that question: forums.othernet.is

@todop

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial the first Ku band one was possible to be used with a dish like this one , then they decided that the want l band for global coverage and no dish, but the price for the satelite was higher i think and the speed slow(or slow for the price)

@todop

4 жыл бұрын

its kind of frustrating that they change the equipment often. es[ecially if you are a poor guy in africa or something. the dream catcher with CHIP looked nice.

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

It is possible, just not supported. You would need an lnb, a power injector for the lnb, and a sdr reciever capable of receiving the output frequency of the lnb. Then all you would need to do is compile the source code (on github) for whatever system you want to run it on. They are still actively developing the skylark firmware so it makes things faster if they only have a limited amount of hardware to develop for. They have said in the past that they want to make it possible to install on any linux distro so people can assemble their own reciever from locally sourced parts.

I ordered a receiver som years ago. Small black USB box. Shipped from US with USPS. Had to pay import tax. Broke down since there was no short circuit protection for the LNB voltage. Fixed it and ran it for a few months. Then lightning took out both the receiver and my raspberry pi. Fun but expensive experience - will not go down that path again.

This is interesting but I would be more interested in shortwave and other long range terrestrial broadcasting to bring data to people. Satellite broadcasting leaves things centralized in the hands of corporations.

Now that is a cool name. I love it.

Thanks man ! Something new to play with lol 73 de ve3hip

Can you use this to watch youtube and other movies? Also, does this have a translator from whatever to English? Can this system be used on a sailboat to keep in touch with whoever for safety and board dome? Please answer these question for me.

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Hi James, unfortunately it is not two way traffic, it is a receiver only. The content is curated by the team @ Othernet. So things like KZread etc wouldnt be possible because there is no way to send a request of what video to watch. Plus, the bandwidth is extremely narrow so would take a long time to download a video, depending on quality. If the sail boat was static, as in not moving, then it should be possible to receive the signal, just remember that SES-2 or Astra 3B is in a fixed location so your LNB/Dish would have to remain pointing to the correct location.

@kennedy67951

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial Is there any tech a person could get to solve these problems while sailing around the world? Thank you for responding. Your time in the production of your content is very appreciated. I'm trying to help my brother because he wants to sail around the world and doesn't have very much money to invest in safety. He was interested also in watching movies and KZread's how-to video's, plus weather around his location. Again thank you for your time. P,S I just don't want him to lose his life over no money for safety.

@drmosfet

4 жыл бұрын

@@kennedy67951 Look up StarLink from Elon Musk, it's supposed to go online 2020 and then expand to cover the whole world. They launching another batch of 60 satellites this Monday, they claim that it will be cheap broadband for remote areas.

@kennedy67951

4 жыл бұрын

@@drmosfet Thank you young man. This is very nice you cared enough to help me with your knowledge.

@johnmal5975

4 жыл бұрын

@@drmosfet Great advice Dr mosfet. Google is supposed to be do a bunch these satellites and amazon as well. They say its going to be the future of our internet connections. Apparently these companies got permission to lower the altitude of these satellites so that there would be very low latency with the connections. I did not realize Elon's was coming out so soon. In the next 3-5 years your cable company will probably be out of business as google and amazon race for world domination. Lol

Thanks for the video

What kind of privacy do you get with this network? Do you think it could be used for a SHTF type scenario to communicate and receive news without having to use a government registered service?

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

No need to worry about privacy because it is receive only

Great stuff, so i take it there is no encryption or security protocol.

Sounds great! Hope it will work! Does anibody used it already?

According to maps it covers like 1% of Earth. Lol, anywhere

I have earlier version. Just ordered new setup.

So is it for free or not ? ? ? ? Just have to buy the equipment? Or do i have to pay something on monthly base ? Or is it payed by data volume ?

@kirschkern8260

4 жыл бұрын

Its not i ternet. Its just a oneway Radio. Now i see.

New Zealand ia at a latitude that is too low to use the current OtherNet system. Will OtherNet be extending the system to my part of the world?

The weather app is just a web view of Earth Null School

If I’m in United States do I need an L band patch Antenna or do I need a ku band Satellite ? Unfortunately I don’t have a satolight

That is just too cool! Thanks.

Hi i went to the website to purchase but it looks like the system is down at the moment, is that the case for you?

Where can I get that earth with satellites in orbit wallpaper ?

Would it work in any country?

This is a very good video.

How ironic is that sat signal travel hundreds to thousands of miles but can pass through 12 feets of leafs xD

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it!! I chose where I live because it’s 600 ft asl, but I didn’t check for sat line of sight 😩😩😩😩

the previous ones were global its strange that you mention just europe end usa :(

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

It's just north america and Europe right now, but they plan on expanding and increasing the bitrate when cash starts to flow. It costs ~40000 per beam per year. At the moment othernet is only marketed towards the diy crowd. They are working on a waterproof enclosure so they can expand their market to to the people that dont want to tinker. Once that happens coverage will grow.

@todop

4 жыл бұрын

@@zachdemand4508 the first Ku band used 4-5 sats with global beams not spot beam and you needed a dish. its cool that now you dont need a dish. maybe its because of the spot beam and the more power that comes

Sold out.

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

New stock arriving imminently, keep an eye on the website Tommorow :)

I live in Hawaii. Can I connect via satellite? Only the 49 states and the EU? I downloaded this video just in case. I'm a journeyman electrician and I've been asking myself this question for a few years

@TheSignstoSee

4 жыл бұрын

I think you can Google the Shadow cast by the L Band. If 30 years ago you cold get the C Band tv point south and the Satilite Ecliptic These satilites were like 32000 miles above Earth in Geosynchronous Orbit. I wondered when some one would get around to using g those. Theres like 12 C Band sats still up there. I think some of the Christian stations are still broadcasting. Google Fcc C Band and L Band Sats and see what they report. Nothing illegal to monitor the airways. No matter who's sat. Like Russian, China, Israel, India. All those countries have satilites. Good Luck

It almost makes you wonder if its worth while to put a satellite in orbit and only have a 20 Kb stream. Not even KB, Kb, so 20/8 = 2.5 Kilobytes per second data rate. In Europe it would only be 1.25 Kilobytes per second. Then again, I'm just going to assume they are using the older satellites that are already up there in orbit and re-purposing the old equipment on it. It probably was only ever meant to provide a form of telemetry back down to earth, diagnostic logs, or something originally.

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Over the years they have had the service come from different satellites. From our perspective, people who have fast internet on our phones it seems pointless, but to those who live in remote areas there there is no phone service or internet it could prove useful I guess.

@MOLHAMSTAR

10 ай бұрын

This is a late comment. I am a refugee in Sweden, but originally from Syria i remember in 2014. The government targeted the underground copper cables to cut (ADSL) off the internet from the people. This was done to prevent them from accessing revolutionary videos and staying informed about events. So, this tool is perfect in war

Where can you buy it ?

Anyone else get a strange urge to switch to Gieco while listening to this guy?

Raspberry pie and a sky satellite dish. 👍

thank you so much for the valuable information. so much Arabic and Chinese content. I wonder why? lol

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

Why wouldnt there be?

Excellent, is it available in Australia?

To sad, that it is just a one way connection.

So is there enough bandwidth to upload a video on othernet? Sounds like data rate to slow

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

Right now it is too slow. One of the goals is to have othernet fast enough to stream video.

@dachemist2007

4 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to that development

@MrZoomZone

4 жыл бұрын

NOW the term download and downlink make sense :-)

@dachemist2007

4 жыл бұрын

Zach Demand What is the potential limit it must be the limit of the a/d correct? Phased Parallel A/D's may speed it up expensive but at least captures signal (or am I wrong)

as it should have been from the start FREE

@IIIRotor

4 жыл бұрын

"in a world where everything is for free, nothing can be of value" cheap, very cheap is a much more preferred option.

@supervortex8363

4 жыл бұрын

@@IIIRotor money has no real value only coz ppl think it dose collectively

@IIIRotor

4 жыл бұрын

@@supervortex8363 very true, but even in a system where we trade with gold, or direct bartering(ie. no currency vessel ) if everything in that system could be obtained for no physical work performed, nothing could ever exist in that system that would have any value... It is not the trading medium that gives things value, it is the amount of effort and time it took to produce, along with Supply&demand, that gives things value.

@supervortex8363

4 жыл бұрын

​@@IIIRotoryeh even the gold thing its still worthless after all you carnt eat it...this value of mens energy mens time mens life is realy about slavery many just refuse to see it for what it is

What dish are you using? I like it.

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

It’s an 85cm “oval shape” offset dish.

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial Ok, i got that much from the video. I was hoping for a brand name.

What in the net? 😮😯😲

So this is free internet ? Is it still operational ?

well i guess its dead now with starlink coming out soon

Wanted to get this years ago but didn't have the money

Wow this really neat. 59 dollars really inexpensive also I see it uses debian which is great for us weird linux users. I was hoping it wasn't just for windows. Does anyone know how secure this is?

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Secure in what way? It’s receive only so I don’t think security comes into it. Unless you mean for reception. I believe the only way to receive this is currently through their dreamcatcher her board

@johnmal5975

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial Okay thank you!

....and right now, someone is devising a way to exploit this service for spam.

@chunkmcbeefnob717

4 жыл бұрын

@jcllings This.

Anything for South and Central America? Jesus bless you

There must be a way to hack the board and route the traffic to be able to use this as a real internet. 10Kbps is not that bad for checking emails in html format and other webpages.

Seems to me that it's free data in the same sense a radio is: You get what you're given. Better than nothing in remote locations, but it not a useful communications medium unless it supports two-way conversations, which it doesn't. Pretty much useless to anyone who can watch this video. Now, a 10-20Kb freely and universally accessible internet, that would be something! Interesting all the same.

@johnc3403

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. It's a fun project to play with, much like a raspberry pi and a nice addition to the shack. I'd imagine it's quite a buzz when you first connect to it. That weather app is lovely too. I might get one just for the experience of building and learning. I can't see how it's in any way useful though...

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

It's not really useful until you are without internet/cell coverage. Their is a place like that not far from me. The only way to communicate is via ham radio repeaters. This makes a great way to stay up to date on the news and the weather is good enough to give you a heads up if a storm is coming. It would also be useful to the people that have heavily censored internet so they can get worldwide news that didnt go through their government filter first.

This is the funniest video l've watched in a long time - it deserves to go viral 🤣

so is it only on apple devices like you have or all devices ?

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t think I showed this on an apple device but it will work on any web browser :)

Are there any satellites for this service that cover South America?

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

I think there used to be, but not sure on future plans. Drop the guys an email via their website and ask, they are really friendly and very helpful.

@CE4JDM

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial ok, thanks.

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

No right now, only north america and europe. Plans are to have worldwide coverage, but their is no roadmap yet.

thanks matt keep the good work ;-)

Buy page does not exists on the site

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

I think you can buy it from the main page, there is an “add to cart” button then checkout

@milutinke

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial Thanks

VoOP? (VoIP but for Othernet)

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

It's reciever only.

@FathinLuqmanTantowi

4 жыл бұрын

better use sw radio instead

How can I get one Plz

10Kbps, so under a fifth of the speed of an old dial-up modem?

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Better than nothing at all :)

@Electrowave

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial That it is, and anonymous I guess :-)

@MatHelm

4 жыл бұрын

My first modem was only 1200 bps, and people like myself spent so much time on them that we had to get them their own phone line. That and the fact that we all wanted to have our own little BBS. After Compuserve came along, we spent all of our time figuring out ways to keep our 56k modems online 24/7. My local dial up here sent me a letter telling me that my service was "unlimited, not indefinite". Cable modems didn't come along here until the early 2000's...

@Electrowave

4 жыл бұрын

@@MatHelm I remember those days well :-) I used to run a BBS with two dedicated lines and a third live for outside work hours (when I didn't need it for work). The slowest modems I worked on used to be used for serial terminals in remote areas in South Africa. 300bps was common. I think I can type faster than some of those transfer rates. In the 90s I used to download stiffy disk images to update the OS, leaving the downloading running over night and cursing when the line was dropped!

@saiyan-lord4714

4 жыл бұрын

Electrowave how would it be anonymous?

... Responding to the title... Nothing is free

So......no access to Tinder?

I dont like this kind of thing where you need to buy everything from the ( Dreamcatcher etc. ) and you cant just use RPi. Great idea ,bad in reality .

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

RPI is raspberry pi. But no, not currently, used to be able to when on L Band but with KU band you need the Dreamcatcher. Which is around the same price as an RPI and you get an LNB with it.

@miquel9898

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial yes but when you think about it, lets say that there Will be massive flood in Area which Will destroy telecomunication and electric infrastructure So nothing Is working BUT i want to hear something from the outer world but OH no AM BCB txs Are all off or unable to transmit and nearest one can be recieved ONLY at night and, what am i gonna do? Aha i know i remember that i Have othernet headless IMG file on microSD somewhere And old parabolic Dish And enough power that i can power only my phone ,rpi And LNB with batteries i Have for Longer period of time. Or just want to try it for one time , i Will not pay for hardware that i already have,

@sp3qfe

3 жыл бұрын

As far as understand it is built on the base of RPi. So if I right you can build your own hardware with SDR LNA and filter and use software SKYLARK. Tech Minds, if I wrong correct me, please.

Nice idea but I get enough media brainwashing content from OTA TV.

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

They pull news content from as many sources as possible to hopefully give all sides of the story.

What's the point if they currate what you can have access to... free internet without freedom to choose what you want to browse... I'm gonna stick with my hotspot on mobile data...

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

I think you’re missing the point. The whole idea is to support areas which have no cell or internet coverage, yes, places like that still exist. School coursework and study material is also shared via this tool. So for some, in rural and undeveloped countries this provides a key hold to the outside world.

@theknob1

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechMindsOfficial Where are there areas that don't receive radio waves on earth? At least there may be broadcast choices. This is a simple propaganda tool.

or how can i chat with you?

This is cool but kinda gimmicky. It’s 20 years late and now broadband or LTE is so cheap and prevalent in the coverage areas of this satellite there isn’t much of an appeal.

bought it, made it work !... worthless free data. at least computer/sdr unit can be repurposed so not total waste of money

Just a theory

Shit's getting a bit swirly

Please Can i use this device in my country Ghana and get free setlite internet ?

How do I order one myself? 8P6RC

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

You can order one from their website. othernet.is

@Bryce_C.

4 жыл бұрын

Tech Minds went to the BUY page & a 404 error comes up

@zachdemand4508

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bryce_C. They know that is an issue, I might have to remind them. You have to click on the "dreamcatcher data radio" link. The "buy" option should only be available on the mobile version of their site. There is only 3 people working for the company last I knew, it a bit hectic and the website usually gets put on the back burner. Here is a direct link to the product page. othernet.is/products/dreamcatcher-v3-05 You should check out the other thing they make that I'm sure most people dont even know about (I didnt know until 6 months later). Support for it is on the rtl-sdr blog forum. othernet.is/products/kerberossdr-4x-coherent-rtl-sdr

@Bryce_C.

4 жыл бұрын

Zach Demand thanks for that, much appreciated

its moderated so will be based on someone elses view points

Lol this must be for tge end of the world, otherwise seems useless even if u have no net where u are.

Microwave yes. Satellites do not orbit a fake spinning ball globe satellites are actually attached to non orbiting hot air balloons which crash to the ground frequently. Do the research brother.

@coopv2

4 жыл бұрын

John Martinson your attempt at humour was a little lame, or your an incredibly stupid flat earth moron.

Hi, tks. What is the price ? 73 QRO ON4BA

@TechMindsOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Its currently $59 on the othernet.is website :-)

@dharmadove

4 жыл бұрын

Sold out.

Not so great for the Southern hemisphere then eh ?

20 kilobit - END OF DISCUSSION.

please can it work in africa, i mean Nigeria?

This seems totally useless.

I see absolutely no.point in this. Only curated crap by Othernet business owners? No thanks

I see absolutely no.point in thisI see absolutely no.point in thisI see absolutely no.point in this🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🥴🔥💨

Poh

Of course everyone knows not to trust Wikipedia since anyone can edit and change it!!!!!