me hovering with mouse: I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you

@dragobruder6328

3 жыл бұрын

xd

@AsianCole

3 жыл бұрын

you may hover with mouse but I hover with with with with touchscreen

@officialbranch1902

3 жыл бұрын

I use a ball mouse

@sattel71

3 жыл бұрын

@@officialbranch1902 I use keyboard to aim

@not0z0ne99

3 жыл бұрын

@@officialbranch1902 I use a tablet mouse wdym Ller

"Yeah, I'm a hover player." "Oh really? Full area or Limited Area?" "Huh?" "In your tablet?" "Wdym? I play mouse." :thinking:

@Elusaka

3 жыл бұрын

razer mcfly lmao

@ErickBRSAO

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elusaka underrated as shit

@user-qk8rt9yf9v

3 жыл бұрын

You can hover slightly. People hover sometimes when they’re flicking.

@CriticalAdventure

3 жыл бұрын

making your mouse plays look like tablet plays

@mr.cobalt6695

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-qk8rt9yf9v almost like thats the joke

Next single tapping, Alternate, Hybrid

@Matteo243

3 жыл бұрын

hybrid lol

@rosenthaI

3 жыл бұрын

Matteo I alternate because I've played piano for 5 years, it wasn't hard to learn.

@Matteo243

3 жыл бұрын

@@rosenthaI lmao I played the piano too and I started with alternating too

@topiastuomisto

3 жыл бұрын

@@rosenthaI same

@AGnar0k

3 жыл бұрын

The one drawback I felt being a full alternate player (since i started playing) is that I can't play high bpm maps beyond 200 bpm comfortably. I also struggle with stamina, but am okay at finger control/low bpm maps. but maybe that's just because I haven't really tried pushing my speed lol

I change playstyle every week bruh.

@deleted-test

3 жыл бұрын

same

@masterwings50

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes

@NIMKAOriginal

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@NIMKAOriginal

3 жыл бұрын

@GummiDragon next week: Point and ring finger and tablet drag

@Shinrobyl

3 жыл бұрын

u guys have a playstyle?

"Drag players have less shake" BTMC: Last slider on raise my sword Allow me to introduce myself.

@ShaunDelier

3 жыл бұрын

His cursor shake was like using a cheap tablet pen on a wacom tablet lmao

@solace512

2 жыл бұрын

his bpm was 190

@randomguynolonger727yearsa9

2 жыл бұрын

@@solace512 while doing the slider it was 170 but yeah it increased to 195

@ducanhnguyen4242

Жыл бұрын

@@randomguynolonger727yearsa9 avarage sytho heartrate

The only reason I hover is because I was scared of scratching my tablet (I write aggressively) lmao

@lewdcry

3 жыл бұрын

Sameeee

@tokyowwww

3 жыл бұрын

same here

@can_ma_sometimes4699

3 жыл бұрын

You need to drag the first times it feels like you destroy it but you only make it Smoother and better trust i thought that also so tried it

@Kachanoid

3 жыл бұрын

lmao, just put mousepad on tablet and enjoy your dragging

@An1m3

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kachanoid that's what I do.

Edit: Vaxei switched to hover in February 2020 Remember that any advantages or disadvantages that I've described are entirely theoretical - you can overcome them through lots of practice! Whatever you choose, it should be based on how comfortable you are and your preference

@reinful

3 жыл бұрын

im pretty sure he was hover since before also your channel got recommended to me sick content btw 🔥

@JasonFree

3 жыл бұрын

@@reinful tl;dr do what feels comfy for you, that's it lmao-

@reinful

3 жыл бұрын

@@JasonFree tl;dr i wasn't even judging but saying that vaxei was a hover player before lmao-

@Antside

3 жыл бұрын

Aaaaand hes back to dragging

when i first used a tablet i used hovering rather than dragging because goddamn tablets are way too expensive for me i dont wanna scratch my tablet

@rufusneumann9703

3 жыл бұрын

gotta love your periphery

@sugaristhenewwhite

3 жыл бұрын

Scratching your tablet wont kill it though

@2swickmarr

3 жыл бұрын

my tablet has a perfect square of the area i use lol (i drag)

@sreeygr4658

3 жыл бұрын

If u don’t want to buy a tablet cover, u can use a plastic bag, thank me later, although it might break pretty easily

No one: Guy in the background: *beating keyboard*

Another advantage of hover is that the tip is not worn and therefore should not be changed

@UmbraWeiss

3 жыл бұрын

There is a simple method to overcome that,just put a scratch resistant screen protector on your tablet and problem solved, i use the same tip for a year now.

@vioco

3 жыл бұрын

@@UmbraWeiss doesn't work Source: have a tablet cover and my veikk pen nibs wore out almost as fast as before I got it. Switched to hovering because I'd found myself switching nibs every week or so because they sharpened and worsened my aim. That shit also costs a shitload. Edit: I think I wrongly assumed a tablet cover and protective screen protector to be the same, so scrap what I said about that. I must ask though, how is the texture on that?

@deleted-test

3 жыл бұрын

stonks

@nguyenhoangquockhanh4930

3 жыл бұрын

@@vioco take a pen and drag around on your phone screen it should feel the same

@warachnid1569

3 жыл бұрын

I just remove the nib lol

dragging/hovering can also be influenced by the grip you use and your ergonomics, if you overhand Tripod grip and move your elbow outward you’ll feel resistance even while hovering for example

Weirdly enough the first time I got a tablet in my hands I instinctively hovered, for no real reason

@username-lj6tl

3 жыл бұрын

Lol me too, I only started tablet 2 days ago

7:43 This is the exact type of thing you need for gameplay videos. Those curves kinda look like cursor dancing, which makes you look better than you actually are to newbies.

Ive been hovering for a year.. now i tried to drag only and damn like the difference is so huge in the matter of precision.. i love to drag only now.

Great video, I just switched to tablet around a week ago and after a couple of days I started hovering because personally I find that I can be more accurate. Pretty much everything you said about both play styles is true and I hope to see more videos from you as well

@Tonehhosu

3 жыл бұрын

Acchia thank you so much!

I came back to osu this year and you and ya vids have helped A TON! thanks lul

When I started tablet for the first time, I used my phone as a tablet. I used those cheap pens, and the friction was way too much, so I put a thin piece of paper between it and my phone screen, which basically made the friction zero, but I still technically dragged. After getting a real tablet, the friction from drag was too much, and no piece of paper could fix that. So I switched to hovering and have been hovering since :)

@idontknowwhattoputasmyname445

2 жыл бұрын

Bro how did you use your phone as a tablet

@teambl4dez

2 жыл бұрын

Yes plz how

@XenoBaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@teambl4dez you have to use an Android device. Search up "virtual tablet lite (s-pen). There will be ads if I remember correctly, so you might occasionally touch them depending on how you hold your pen. Do not use the wireless mode, too much latency, wired only. I don't remember exactly how to set it up, so look it up online. I do recommend using one of those rubber tipped touchscreen pens with a thin piece of paper in between that and the screen, or else the friction will be way too much. Hope this helps!

OK FIRST THIS VIDEO IS SO INFORMATIVE YET HILARIOUS, you deserve a sub man

@Tonehhosu

3 жыл бұрын

Clivee Ty!!

@xiao8124

3 жыл бұрын

I need sauce for ur pfp

@clivee5195

3 жыл бұрын

@@xiao8124 no

@xiao8124

3 жыл бұрын

@@clivee5195 pls-

@xiao8124

3 жыл бұрын

@@clivee5195 I need to watch something new-

bro holy shit I thought everyone hovered

@rufusneumann9703

3 жыл бұрын

hover is superior, just add a finger as stabilizer and your shakiness and lack of friction is a problem of the past

@regret3311

3 жыл бұрын

@@rufusneumann9703 I’m currently doing that but now my only problem is the shakiness because of chatter

@sreeygr4658

3 жыл бұрын

@@rufusneumann9703 ur statement makes almost no sense, you could just say that dragging with 4 fingers gives more movement, which makes almost no sense

@pedrovisk18920

3 жыл бұрын

@@rufusneumann9703 superior? what about mrekk?

@ohioussy

2 жыл бұрын

I actually thought everyone dragged LMAO

holy shit dude where have you been all my life??? These videos are amazing even if I have already gotten comfortable with my playstyle Keep it up dude!!

New channel with such good video!

i’m comfortable with dragging cause of my dumb area. i’m rocking a tiny square area, 38mmx38mm. it’s something i’ve gotten used to and really shows how much preference is all that really matters

@blur1924

2 жыл бұрын

Moves 1 inch:oh no

Got my tablet, love it. I naturally hovered lol. No complaints about the s620 just nice. These guides helped thanks

my first instinct was actually to hover (granted I literally JUST started) but I blame that on me getting my tablet to draw and animate first rather than playing osu first, so im more used to moving it around without having it down.

@Goose-kb2yo

2 жыл бұрын

Wait I know this is a year later but were you hovering while drawing??

@Nirax3

Жыл бұрын

@@Goose-kb2yo I'm not OP but I guess they mean hovering when you don't actually draw but just move around on the canvas. When you're using your drawing software, your pen will probably be in the air more than on the tablet. Drawing/input = dragging. Movement = hovering. In osu you only use the pen for movement, the input is done with the keyboard. A friend of mine who is an illustrator intuitively hovered for this reason too.

@penguinxrock

Жыл бұрын

@@Goose-kb2yo i will add on to what Nirax has said, as i also first got my tablet for drawing. when i'm drawing, yes i drag on the screen, but sometimes i switch to other windows (ex. checking social media or changing music). then i would hover because dragging would be like constantly holding left click while moving your mouse. outside of drawing, i only really need to put my pen down if i want to click a button, so i stick to hovering in osu (and of course, i want to save my pen nibs for drawing)

Why am i watching this i’am a mouse player, good vid tho

@Veryyes3945

3 жыл бұрын

U can hover on mouse

@kunpai9781

3 жыл бұрын

Very true

@kunpai9781

3 жыл бұрын

But i alr do that

thanks for the video dude much love

Dude you deserve more subscribers. Your videos are very informative! good vid. edit: btw nice pokemon music

@Tonehhosu

3 жыл бұрын

Pocket Paxton thanks! lol glad to hear people recognising the OST

I just moved from mouse player to tablet player and I'm glad I found your video on my timeline, thx dude

I have a Foxbox cover on my wacom tablet and there is a very different texture. The standard surface, as I remember, was a little like some kind of smooth matted plastic with a little friction. The cover has almost no friction, but has a light grainy/bumpy texture. I'm not much of an artist but I can imagine drawing with the cover not being nice and too slippery

my hands auto locked on hover when I first held it xD nice vid!

Bro I dont if it's just me man but, that sonic unleashed soundtrack playing in the background at 0:41 really hits hard with nostalgia.

"I am a left handed people and I hover"

Thanks man, i just buy a tablet and i had no idea how to hold my pen or area. This video is help me so much

Also for dragging friction some pen nibs when new are cause a scratching feel but after a bit of use they wear in and are smooth. I prefer dragging since my hands are too shaky to hover.

BTW I use a drag playstyle and don't have a tablet cover, one disadvantage is that the more I scratch the tablet the more the feel of the surface changes and over time the scratchyness has increased the friction of the tablet changing how aiming feels. Although I use a Gaomon 620 so the surface material is probably cheaper. I didn't buy a tablet cover because it is legit cheaper to buy a entirely new tablet than to buy a cover off the popular websites.

After playing mouse for about a year getting consistent with it on 4 star maps I decided to make the switch to tablet about a couple of hours ago, but didnt know where to start. thank you for these videos. They have really helped me figure things out and now im glad about making the switch.

Very good video I had to start hovering because my pen nib broke and I had no extras in my opinion I feel no difference but since I just ordered the ctl 480 I'm gonna try using hybrid.

hovering was an obvious choice for me, i didnt want to scratch my tablet surface as i share it with others.

@rufusneumann9703

3 жыл бұрын

gotta love your periphery

i love the hahabear clip, its so interesting watching him play

I am half way in the video so this has probably been brought up but hovering is great for jumps. When I watched whitecat play goodbye Moonmen he did it perfectly and he was barely moving his hand

great video mate

Very informative, earned yourself a sub :D

@Tonehhosu

3 жыл бұрын

aww thank you!

For a long time i was a Hover user, and always my right thumb and right arm hurt after a couple of songs. I tried many grips an couldn't find one that didn't hurt and was precise. I decided 2 days ago to try and drag my pen. It solved al my problems: - Nothing hurts any more - I have a normal hold - My accuracy increased instantly. I'm S-99% or SS songs that i could barely get A. My largest flaw was that i could not do accurate jumps, now i can. - And i can do really small and fast spinners. I could never do small spinners, they always had a big diameter and were more oval-square shaped. Now i can do the tiny, smooth, and hypnotising spinners top players do. To put it with numbers, i could do a 14000 point spinner before, now in the same song and spinner i can do a 24000 point spinner.

hovering came naturally for me bc I'm an artist and have obviously always aimed for spots while hovering ;-; this also meant my sense of where my pen tip is had an advantage

9:45 finally someone i can relate to. I do the exact same thing while square jumping

awesome video!!! earned a sub. Also i hover 100%. i have the good tabletdriver drivers which i think its a smoothening filter, i dont see the shakiness that you explain here unless i do insanely far jumps! does whitecat have some smoothening filters too?

I hover, but during wide or fast jumps I'll tap where I want my cursor to end up to avoid over-shooting, it helps a lot.

I play hover + snappy aim (occasional taps) even before discovering this video, but still here to see what others think!

Absolutely brilliant video! I had no idea that you could play hybrid!!! I do have a question though, since these parts confuse me: 09:43 ~ 09:54 + 10:49 Are you saying that I can use the pen to hover AND click circles with at the same time while still having access to Z and X clicking ? If so that sounds really cool! Or does clicking with the pen make me unable to use Z and X to tap with ?! I can't understand this and would like clarification of it :)

I don't like the friction on dragging, so I hover, I like to hover using my pinky as the anchor point (the aim is more accurate), but my pen usually go to high and made me miss, so I hover with my pinky moving following the pen, but the friction on my pinky is annoying (also the aim is less accurate), but I'm a mouse user, so it doesn't really matter...

i started playing osu because there was a spare tablet we had so when i started, it was always so weird to play while dragging, it felt so wrong for me. A few weeks later, I found out you can hover and still give inputs to the tablet and been hovering since i was rank 1.2 million lmao

I drag when I have a break and theres a slow part in the beatmap, so I can tell how high my pen is, and so I have a relative point

i have a foxbox cover and it felt weird at first but honestly i tried my other tablet without a cover and i hate it you will grow to love the cover plus u can make it cool looking or have ur own waifu on it highly recommend

BRO I THOUGHT I WAS ON A GIGGUK VIDEO FOR LIKE 5 SECONDS LMFAO you sound so similar to him its crazy wtf, also great vid man

@Tonehhosu

3 жыл бұрын

rickygotclout really!! haha I’ve had this comment a few times and thanks!

I use a bit of a weird hybrid setup: greased glass. It's got the stability of having your pen resting on the tablet but with no friction whatsoever

I noticed that square patterns were really hard for me too. And I'm hovering, guess i'll have to train that a lot

How do you only have 500 subs? You deserve more man

@Tonehhosu

3 жыл бұрын

thanks! ^^

I started out hover because I didn’t know you could disable mouse input for tablets. Now I do a hybrid of both

When I first got my tablet I hovered by default. I think it's because touching the tablet felt like the most natural way to click and it would be like to me if you played with mouse while constantly holding left click.

I just instinctively started hovering the first time I played Osu! on my tablet

I drag but since I don't train square jumps, they are still quite hard for me but I find pretty much any other jumps pretty easy

I actually use my tablet to draw, no way am I dragging

@asie

3 ай бұрын

you can draw while hovering??????

@peeweeallen517

3 ай бұрын

@@asie dang this is old, had to think about this for a sec. I meant that I used my tablet to draw, and if I dragged, it would mess up the tablet and make it harder for me to draw lmao.

@asie

3 ай бұрын

@@peeweeallen517 I didn't expect you to answer! 😭 ahhh I see now ty!

@peeweeallen517

3 ай бұрын

@asie haha, I've got nothing else to do but scroll through KZread all day so I see the notifs pretty early.

this really helped since I just got my tablet ( I use it for drawing or playing osu but idk how to play osu with my stylus I'm too used to my mouse)

@sangonomiyakokomi5764

3 жыл бұрын

@@koru1104 A viekk tablet, its pretty big so I have to go to the tablet driver to make the working area smaller to play osu

I've heard that customizing the tablet covers can mess with the friction. Should I just keep it regular or is it the same thing if I customize it?

The first playstyle i use is drag the first time i bought a tablet because mouse is dragging. And 2 months later i switched to hover

4:20 i used sticky-backed plastic to make a cover, and it works the same saving a 20+ dollars right here

I switched dragging to hovering Bc I felt I hit more circles and cross maps with hovering

I personally use a small plastic card, put it on my wacom then drag. It doesn't scratch the tablet, the card is smooth so I can go fast( I play with small area).

The biggest problem with dragging (especially on cheaper tablets like my trash veikk) is that your pen nibs wear out quickly and if you don't keep an eye on it, you may find yourself with a square tip or a flathead-screwdriver tip (the latter was the case for me). This also worsens your aim because there's more contact and irregular drag. Also, nibs cost a LOT.

@Horaheehoo

3 жыл бұрын

There is another problem other than nibs, some cheaper tablest have hardware latency and cause your movements to be slow. I have this problem when i drag on my tablet and i use hawku drivers. (XpPen G640 rev-b)

@vioco

3 жыл бұрын

@@Horaheehoo oh yeah, I forgot about that but I also had that problem on my veikk. All those problems lead me to believe you should only drag with a solid tablet like CTH-480 or 490.

When I first started using tablet I didn’t drag because I had my mouse buttons enabled and when I drag I literally can’t hit anything properly. A year after hovering I realized that I can turn off mouse buttons but its already too late.

I dont have a tablet but when i came over to my friend's house and tried one for the first time, i instinctively hovered and not dragged, am i the only one?

@rarariimissu

3 жыл бұрын

I also hovered when I first got my tablet! Mainly because I didn't know you can turn of mouse buttons lol. I still use hover until now

@sreeygr4658

3 жыл бұрын

I hovered first then dragged

i decided to start dragging due to a genetic issue where i passively shake nearly all the time this was after a few months of suffering with shaky aim that had no correlation with nerves or stimulant use

I just naturally hovered as soon as I tried playing on tablet .__.

I play drag but the thing is, i put my mousepad over the tablet. I feel like i should learn to hover cause i feel like the mousepad is making my aim slow. I used to be a mouse player that can set 270-290pp constantly. After switching to tablet for three days, i can currently set 200pps with it. Should i just drag on the tablet or is it the same if i put my mousepad on it?

I played for about 2 years with hover cause I was afraid of scratching my tablet. But then I decided... eff it, it's old anyway, and I play on a rather small size so I can just... move the spot until I kill it. But, since I started dragging, I gotta say that my aim has improved immensely in just a few months. So, I'm sticking with that now :D

Im still just choosing area and grip, idk if i like normal writing grip more, or frome the front, when i find that, then i have to adjust area

when i use dragging (which is way more comfortable for me then hovering) i cant use right click button, can somebody tell me why or how to fix it

The stacked books from Vaxei is so historical

I'm a hover player since day 1, didn't even knew drag was a thing. I don't want to scratch my tablet, or damaging nip of the pen. Since i also use the tablet for studies and work. Prob gonna keep on hovering, but maybe I'll try to drag sometime

4:18- 5:00 a very easy alternative for a tablet cover is a typical gaming mouse pad. Simply put the tablet under it and you won't scratch your precious tablet.

@rufusneumann9703

3 жыл бұрын

but instead pad gets scratched duh

Tried to hover but the way i hold my pen doesn't help it. I often change angle of the pen to the point where tablet doesn't recognize it. And yes, keeping it at one height is also an issue. I guess it is more for players who have large area size and moving whole his hand and not pen, when aiming.

When i was a beginner to tablet i dont really know there was option to turn off the mouse button so i decided to hover it feels really cool not really uncomfortable but i switch-ed to drag because my wirst and thumb really hurt and struggles try to hold pen

i drag, and dont have a tablet cover, and i just realized the friction is considerably less on the area i play on

You could also buy less scratchy pen nibs.. there’s ones that are more… squishy…? If that makes sense? Lots of pen nibs that artists use are soft and don’t scratch (unless you’re like, going crazy on the surface. And even then it just wears the nib more than the surface)

can someone tell me why is it when im playing osu with a tablet i cant press the buttons if i drag? like i have to pull out my pen nib to drag because it wouldnt register the keyboard clicks

can someone give me name of the map in 7:55 EDIT: Found it accidentally while downloading maps in Quaver name of the song is Ai no sukima, probaly miku cover

I can think of a disadvantage to tapping/hybrid There's another axis of motion in play, with hovering/dragging, you only move your pen forward, backward, left, and right. Add tapping and now you have to move your hand up and down to a degree, which requires more energy and can decrease stamina. Then again, im not RyuK

I drag with a little pressure like hover but the tip still touch the tablet unless the map is full of huge gap jump I have to drag

I can’t drag or my tablet clicks when it is on the tablet so I hover and actually put the pen down when I’m need to click

I didn't even thought on how do I need to play. I was like "can I just drag ? Its was easier."

I started playing osu 11 days ago, and I magically began alternating with zx. I just got my tablet yesterday, and once again, I magically started hovering. Also whats the big deal with the Wacom CTL-4100 with the default smoothing?

I used to drag, but I hover now, because it lets me have a looser grip on my pen. Used to have a problem with using skull-crushing grip to keep my pen from slipping. Now, I hover, but I still drag when I do spinners.

i watched this before i bought a tablet and was incredibly confused as to how a pen could hover yet now i play hover

I personally hover on jumps and drag on spinners or I start draggin if I feel like I'm getting nervous so I don't drop combo

@01suku77

3 жыл бұрын

Damn

I really like these videos that you make , I’m actually struggling to actually choose what playstyle to use and stuff Altho I have been playing with tabelt for a year

@Tonehhosu

3 жыл бұрын

glad to hear it!

I aint sure if its related to the vid but can someone help, i'm trying to learn how to drag and everytime i try to left tap on keyboard it doesn"'t work

i hover with a humongous area which i find alleviates shakiness to a degree

what should i do if i'm left handed and find it difficult to aim with my right hand ? I kinda want to switch to left handed but my fingers on the right hand aren't as good as my left. I don't know what should i do please help. edit: nvm guys. half and hour of training is enough to get use to it.

aww i was planning to make a video on mouse vs tablet and also if tablet latency matters but now you are making those videos so any testing i made is probably useless lol

How can i get a a cheap tablet cover because the website u mentioned sells it for 20$ and thats quite expensive for me