My favorite character, Xiang Liu. What a sad song. Glad to know that Tan Jianci sang it himself. Hope to see him more in costume dramas. :)

@user-qh8to4nm2c

10 ай бұрын

BRAVO

@nethmiiii_____

10 ай бұрын

yeah 🥺

@zannizannet5487

10 ай бұрын

У него 13дорам еще есть.ну тут он расскрылся полностью.

@BlackKitty01

10 ай бұрын

Ele é cantor e dança também

@michaellamalinkun1651

10 ай бұрын

Me too..

相柳😭😭长相思男主里面最喜欢相柳了

@ruchav.4699

10 ай бұрын

Mee too.❤❤

@ruchav.4699

10 ай бұрын

🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺❤️😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@nakoyen293

9 ай бұрын

唯一喜愛🤩

@MarciaCristina-hv8cs

9 ай бұрын

Mee too❤

@kangsisirnyakyungsoo

9 ай бұрын

Me too❤ why don't they just be together😭 even miss Xiang liu if he doesn't appear. Verry charismatic

健次把相柳和防風邶立體化了，更是因深度地演繹他們，凸顯了他卓越的本質，這首歌由他來唱甚是切合，唱出了相柳的哀痛深情，優質的聲線更加溶化人心！以前就知道他，但沒機會凸顯，佩服他年輕的情商和毅力，蟄伏多年不屈不撓地努力，淬煉一身的優秀，如今猶能不卑不亢，一如既往的努力和真實，確實讓人激賞！

檀健次演的很好，以前並不知道這個演員，真的會演 ，很感動，最愛看相柳的戲份，深情

@insanli9204

10 ай бұрын

Полностью согласна с Вами.

@elviragetueza961

9 ай бұрын

My first time also to notice him

@redmi4a375

9 ай бұрын

Check him out in My Girlfriend is a Pilot _ a totally different character. But portrayed superbly by Tan Jian Ci ❤ _ in that drama he's made the ML pale into Insignificance

@anitasilmi4204

9 ай бұрын

Xiang Liu pemarah, tidak selamanya memperlakukan xiao yao lembut

@mag454

9 ай бұрын

​@@anitasilmi4204看劇就是看得那樣片面？替你難過！

Xiang Liu always shows "I do it for a selfish reasons" but he is the most selfless or has no ulterior motives when it involves XY.

He’s my favorite character 😭 beautiful, majestic, dark, mysterious, and pure. He’s a complex character with deep emotions. He may appear selfish but the more is revealed, his love has a pureness to it. He sacrifices without asking for anything and he lets go because he loves.

@HDGeoSacred

4 ай бұрын

✨🌟☺️🪩☺️🌟✨

@user-fq8vo3po3i

4 ай бұрын

So sad

@khushbu3483

2 ай бұрын

Everyone has their different perspective many people like him coz he's bit different from them

@jeannettejohnson2375

12 күн бұрын

His love is unconditional it's a self sacrificing love.

檀健次把相柳和防风邶演绎得很到位，很传神。他的白衣白发扮相很迷人。歌也唱得很好听。就是戏份太少了。希望相柳让他的演艺事业更上一层楼！

@user-dl9je2pl3j

9 ай бұрын

Очень точно отметили ❤

@user-vs4rq4vh5m

9 ай бұрын

Режисер+сценарий+ 檀健次 = шедевр❤

🤔「沒有計算佔有」和「願意犧牲自我」的「愛」才是這劇表達的「愛的最高境界」？檀健次在這劇演繹出色，希望日後仍有優質作品受大眾喜愛！

@amberchen4706

4 ай бұрын

你说的很对，还有一种[爱是克制]的感觉。《长相思》的剧名许多人说是苍玄对小夭的相思，我更觉得是小夭对相柳的相思。

@AzkaSulaiman-wi1su

4 ай бұрын

Your comment make me cry 😭😭

@user-iy2ys1re1v

4 күн бұрын

❤да! Но кто то скажет зависимость. Но такое проявление любви мне ближе и понятнее. Прекрасный герой❤❤❤

I fell in love with Xiang Liu and now I fall in love with Tan jianci ‘s voice. He’s super good at acting and singing 👏👏👏

@czareahnnagomez6136

7 ай бұрын

Dance and host too❤

I just love this song🎶❤.. It's a sad song but very peaceful,melodious music with a very soothing voice song🎶..Tan Jianci sang this song very soothingly and softly ❤ "Tan Jianci" is such a great actor dancer and singer too❤.. I just loved "Xiang Liu" character in Lost you forever drama❤.. Unforgettable character and very powerful character. His facial expressions are just amazing. He played his character very well and amazingly 😊..His eyes speak more than words 😊 I always wanted to see Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao together❤..For me they look together just perfect 😍 Yang Zi and Tan Jianci have a beautiful chemistry and I am eagerly waiting for their another new drama❤😊

My heart breaks each time I hear this song. Xiang Liu is the real hero in Lost You Forever, he is best suited to Xiao Yao in every way.

Xiang Lu the best character in Lost You Forever drama. We can feel his saddess in this OST. Xiang Liu please don't die in the season 2

@mahirahasankarim1358

10 ай бұрын

He will.. otherwise title will be useless..and maybe people will not remember him so much if he stayed alive

@ummucleva2403

9 ай бұрын

For him die ia a freedom and best end.

@kuykuykuy3550

9 ай бұрын

can someon tell me how he dies

@sandraariawati9200

9 ай бұрын

@@kuykuykuy3550 base on the novel, Xiang Liu dies in the battle

@LiliBird.fly.

9 ай бұрын

​@@sandraariawati9200😢💔

Tan Jianci has truly captivated me as a newfound discovery, joining my list of powerful actors who possess the remarkable ability to convey profound emotions through their expressive eyes in their performances.

默默奉獻的相柳 不是科班出生 演技了得 悟透了角色 每一分都拿捏得到位❤

檀健次相柳😘我最爱的古装剧人物🥰永远的白月光、意难平😭

@rosmeryreyesoliveros1475

10 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@sylviasun7676

7 ай бұрын

@@rosmeryreyesoliveros1475：

@krinyp9073

3 ай бұрын

我也是，看了这么多古装戏，檀健次相柳是唯一能让我铭记在心，并且是痛心的😢

@bambiyang2718

3 ай бұрын

@@krinyp9073抱抱❤

@bambiyang2718

3 ай бұрын

@@rosmeryreyesoliveros1475❄❄❄

檀健次既能演活相柳演繹防風邶還有能令人共情入戲的原聲台詞，又能自唱相柳人物曲，顏值高氣質佳又理解角色核心價值。戲外自費拍攝海報與番外小短劇宣傳戲劇與角色，誠意滿滿，擔任特別主演降維打擊其他角色演技。這麼優秀的演員，不該遭到資本打壓，希望平台能理解，觀眾不想要被硬塞流量資源咖，不想看木頭演戲，不想看內娛資本那套捧流量新人來劣幣驅逐良幣

@elviragetueza961

9 ай бұрын

Hard to forget his unique character

@nakoyen293

9 ай бұрын

內娛嘛⋯⋯一句話不予置評。但觀眾的眼睛是雪亮的。演技是靠實力。不是靠吹捧出來的。

@mag454

8 ай бұрын

​@@nakoyen293就是市面出現不小盲腦粉,說他演技比健次好,人氣比健次高,開口埋口漲粉三百萬證明比健次受歡迎,一個演技那麼渣的演員的粉絲居然還那樣囂張真的不是內娱危機嗎？

@nakoyen293

8 ай бұрын

@@mag454 最美的白髮古裝扮相，檀健次第一☝️⋯⋯抖音角色熱度第一。微信指數第一☝️

@michellehan2534

7 ай бұрын

如果这样的优秀演员还要遭到霸凌打压 只能说内娱完了 没有希望了

Tan Jianci is perfect for the character of Xiang Liu..💘🤗when he enters the scene he turns everything upside down..😁😘and the song he sings describe the sadness of the character..😭💔

第一次知道檀健次，就被他演的相柳圈粉，好希望最后番外给夭柳一个happy ending，相柳是永远的意难平！希望檀健次，演绎之路平步青云，更希望他作为一个公众人物，在生活和工作里给大家传递正能量，不忘初心！

@OmKhon-ej2ok

9 ай бұрын

😊😊

@saladlin9610

2 ай бұрын

我也是 但我是先看漫畫被相柳圈粉 然後看劇發現他是我心中的相柳 看他難過我也好難過 我也希望happy ending

聽這歌就會想著相柳的每一場名場面❤眼裡都是戲。

I will never forget this wonderful character called Xiang Liu ❤️ He did everything he could, but all he got was pain. He is the most heartbroken person in the drama😔 Tan jianci is a very talented and well suited actor for the role of XL/FFB

@CrescentRuby

10 ай бұрын

The really sad part is: Xiaoyao said that true love would mean the person would be only hers and live and die only for her and abandon everything else. Xiang Liu did all of it sacrificing even his loyalty (he flunked every single assassination on Xuan and tried to kill one of the kings which ended him unconscious in her bed), his essence, his heartblood, and all of his lifes to her, and she still chose the lying Fox who promised her this kind of love and broke the promise every time. And people still simp over Jing and Xuan as if they actually deserve it...

@purpleworld_07.

10 ай бұрын

@@CrescentRuby In the upcoming S2, there are also some scenes that XL fans can't bear, especially his death. I don't know why the writer created a great character with such a sorrowful ending...😩

@CrescentRuby

10 ай бұрын

@@purpleworld_07. Yeah, I know. i will pretty much die inside seeing it... I kinda feel the "hidden meaning" could be: choosing the convenient one over the Soulmate won't make either happy or content... One dies with a broken heart, the other looses everything...

@Mia-rn2gk

10 ай бұрын

totally agree!@@CrescentRuby

@kuykuykuy3550

9 ай бұрын

excatlyy@@CrescentRuby

Xiang Liu is a legendary character that ever was made. TJC nailed the role🔥 His voice and the song will be in our hearts forever. ❤ Love lots from India 🇮🇳 ❤❤

@lyubovsennik3431

10 ай бұрын

З УКРАЇНИ

每次相柳出場，除了心疼還是心疼啊😢😢😢

相柳這個角色是檀健次參加海選爭取得來(阿念也是)，不同其他演員背後有公司出頭代為接洽，所以他今次演出成功真替他高興！

@cindywong7812

8 ай бұрын

真的吗？我还不知道呢

@mamaiya90

8 ай бұрын

Wow really?

@mikopp4581

7 ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍

@amberchen4706

4 ай бұрын

Yeah@@mamaiya90

@agnes9228

4 ай бұрын

娱乐圈的水太深。。。这么好的演员被埋没了这么久。 檀健次自己都说，现在介绍自己终于可以说我是演员檀健次了。。。。真的好感动。我们大家终于看到他的努力和才华了。。。

檀健次眼里都是戏呀 ❤又帅又欲，好爱好爱

He can dance he can act he can sing so beautifully !! This man is so talented and a treasure

@AnitaPatel-fc9kf

4 ай бұрын

He surely is gifted!!😍😍😍🇬🇧

Your voice, your performance as Xiang liu is killing me. I am deeply saddened to know that you will die and have unrequited love. I watched it because of you😭

@rosmeryreyesoliveros1475

10 ай бұрын

Siiii que triste no lo soporto 💔🥺😭😭😭

@amberchen4706

4 ай бұрын

JC-T also said that he is doomed to die in the war as a soldier, with his dignity and responsibility.

相柳的結局讓人心痛，說不出口的愛，錯過的最愛，讓我難過好久好久😢

@KayleePham

10 ай бұрын

Tong Hua has no heart

He was heart and soul willing. He loved Xiaoyao so much and gave the warmest love in the coldest way possible. I'm so glad Xiangliu's role met the perfectly suited and matched actor. Even if the ending for him is bittersweet, be comforted a bit for the fact that he chose that ending for them. Xiangliu is the best character ever. He is strong willed and chose to be the stronger one between his and Xiaoyao's love. That of course caused him more pain and casted forever yearning for Xiaoyao. But be happy for a bit that it happened. I'm sure Xiangliu is in peace and finally free and happy that he was able to give Xiaoyao what she wanted the most being back to a life similar to wen xiaolius', and that the woman he loved dearly misses him and thinks about him too. Listen to 'See and miss one another/Xiāng jiàn xiāngsī/相見相思' an ost by yangzi and feel the lyrics deep within. When I listen to that, I feel for the eternal yearning that a girl feels for missing a lover. I don't think she was singing for jing nor cang xuan. It's definitely for Xiangliu and look at the novel's cover; the way it shows lovesick berries covered in snow. I may not the best reader but if that doesn't point out to the love story between Xiangliu and Xiaoyao then maybe i am rlly delusional. They're not the main leads but it's clear enough they were each other's true love. So if you feel sad for how it ended for Xiangliu, be comforted for the things I said even for just a bit. ^^

His eyes speak more than words!

@Iluthra

4 ай бұрын

So true. You can tell when he's angry, hurt, sad, wanting. No words needed.

@vanoubarthelemy8188

3 ай бұрын

Yes 🥰

@Janazdeil

3 ай бұрын

Agreed ❤❤

Lost you forever ❤ xiao Yao lost Xiang Lui forever 😫💔 tha way he look at her very deeply 💔 I hope they have a another drama together 🥰💕 Tan jianci acting skill is amassing ❤️‍🔥 After I watched this drama he become my idol 🥰💕

最喜歡相柳生氣的臉😊比笑還帥

@mikopp4581

7 ай бұрын

But i like smiling face of fang feng bei

I’m so obsessed with this character and the actor who played this role nailed it. I want his character to be male lead and be together with female lead

Tan Jianci really brought Xiang Liu/Fang Feng Bei character to life. Tan Jianci’s acting is top notch. Xiang Liu is interesting, appealing and exciting. He can crate a fire in people heart. I can’t keep my eyes off him whenever he is on the screen. Looking forward to seeing what’s next for Tan Jianci’s works in the future including LYF S2.

所謂長相思就是思相柳哇❤

Finally I've waited for this ost!! Xiang Liu will always be my favorite character in this drama though sadly that he can't get the love he deserves the same way he gives to Xiao Yao.I hope that in 2nd season he will find his own..

@ChocolateMorn

10 ай бұрын

He gonna die on the S2. He is illfated, yet still my favourite! TJC played XiangLiu character to perfection!

@phikul262518

10 ай бұрын

+1

@rosmeryreyesoliveros1475

10 ай бұрын

​@@ChocolateMorn y solamente él tenía una mirada 😍😍😍😍😍🥺😔

很難不被相柳吸引❤

相柳的愛真的好苦，每次只要看到相柳就忍不住替他心酸

檀健次真的好會唱，我哭，我瘋狂哭

可惜不是一對戀人，真是太虐心了！！檀健次演技真是太好，相貌英俊，希望下次可以和楊紫再合作，終成眷屬！！

My heart breaks for Xiang Liu 💔

@rosmeryreyesoliveros1475

10 ай бұрын

SII el mío también 💔🥺😭😭 tiene una mirada 🎉🎉🎉

He redefined ML as someone who doesn't need to end up with a partner to be happy. He represents the modern's ideas of being independent and goal-orientated. We were all so busy shipping people that we forgot that life is not all about love but the person who we choose to be. Finding ourselves, not everyone gets there. Even Tong Hua mentioned in the interview that XL is her favorite character. Now I finally understand why he has the most character growth compared to the ML and FL. Throughout this drama, I wonder why CX, XY, and TSJ slowly fade into the background while XL stands out. In reality, he is the main character of the story. The rest are just extras built to let him reach his final destination.

Xiang Iiu is my favourite character apart from Xiaoyao. With undeniable handsome, super mysterious, powerful and manly, he also so loyal and loving person. Perfectly unique which make me wanting him for another scene again and again. I ship him with Xiaoyao

相柳是最好的！無私的愛❤❤❤ 帥炸！！

I'm in love with OST, Tan Jianci so talented and handsome,the best male performance!

Xiangliu has the greatest love i hope the writer make a sequel of xiangliu’s character…. He is real hero in this story

My Chinese idol, you broke my heart. You are great in everything. I look forward to your new songs, series and dances. And please don't forget to rest, take care of yourself and eat well. There are simply no words, the talent is from God.❤❤❤

Tan jianci sangat sempurna memerankan carakter xiang liu...mencintai tak berharap balasan...berkorban demi orang yg di cintai..cintanya sejati...xiang liu❤❤❤❤❤❤

Tbh in this drama, JCT really shone brightest and born for this story. Just like Dylan as DFQC in LBFAD, here in LYF, JCT is the point of interest, the star. Always being remembered. The other characters might have happy ending, but would be easily forgotten. Lost you forever was all about Xiang Liu.

@teresavillacampa5780

10 ай бұрын

He’s also the favorite character of the one who wrote the novel ❤

@user-de7si7tf7i

4 ай бұрын

True

I'm here again, I'm in love with this O.S.T wonderful. I adore Lost you forever and Tan Jianci's performance, so powerful, unique and perfect.

Hi, from Sri Lanka, I am so much addicted to this song. Tan Jinanci who is an amazing artist. His mesmerizing voice ..his acting ..his style really wonderful.

檀健次、張新成、徐正溪…眼戲的精髓非常…牽動人心

His facial expression is amazing and priceless even his eye movements, a versatile actor , and I hope and pray your career will prosper more

这里我很喜欢谭健次，或者说相柳，他是那种很酷但很爱他的女人的男人，尤其是当你看他穿着白色衣服和银白色头发的样子时，他非常非常帅。

檀健次，相柳哥哥唱得好聽，

超中意看夭柳，重看更入神，祈待第二季

I don't understand Chinese but this music is too good.....whenever I don't feel okay or sad....i just listen this song..n already watched this drama....n Xiang liu is my favourite character..... I want to see him many more costume dramas.... love from India

檀健次扮演的相柳是一个非常值得反复推敲细节的角色，栩栩如生，有情有义。👍👍👍

My favorite actor in this series. I hope he can get some love in other series. This is my second series I watch him losing his beloved woman to another. It is sad he is not appreciated many.

@jenni9467

5 ай бұрын

Watch Love Me, Love My Voice. He's happy there

好听的音乐使人陶醉 好美的旋律，牽动温柔的心弦。听了无数遍了还是觉得超好听，味道浓浓，实在太赞了。

I really like it when the actor/singer or actress/singer, sings their own character's theme song. Makes it even more special to hear. I first remember Tan Jianci from Twisted Fate of Love, an EXCELLENT Costume Drama series. But he did play a somewhat boring character as a kind and honest prince compared to Jin Han's character who was pretending to being a corrupt evil official. Jin Han normally plays evil guys and in that series he was the good character. Both actors did a great job in their roles. It's Ironic how Tan Jianci plays the opposite here as 9 headed demon and does it so well. I see many acting roles of him playing a wide range of characters in the future.

Tan Jianci is a very handsome and talented person. He's an actor, singer, and dancer. He can pull off any genre from ballad to dance and still leave us impressed by it. Jianci ge, I love you so much. Thank you for all your hard work in music and art. Wo ai ni.

His talent is unlimited Keep shining our beloved Tan Jianci

XL is the mean reason for I'm watching this drama 😢 without him i can't 😭😭💔 He Deserve more love ❤️

@rosmeryreyesoliveros1475

10 ай бұрын

Siiii yo también pensé que era la única 💔💔🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😍

@IzzieSabrina143

10 ай бұрын

Same here! He is only reason I watch this drama!

@irniapril1577

10 ай бұрын

Me too.. But Poor Xiang Liu....😭😭😭😭😭

@vichedachhim4608

10 ай бұрын

Me too. I watch the drama bcuz of him

@rosmeryreyesoliveros1475

10 ай бұрын

@@vichedachhim4608 😭❤️❤️❤️❤️💔

最最喜歡💕檀健次的𥔵性美音，電影主題曲燈火千萬、夢境．．．都出乎預料的好聽，舞技超群、打戱流暢、聲音好聽、演技簡直不要太好🤩覺得是個天才😊👻

@rachelchg57

9 ай бұрын

他演過司馬昭

@nakoyen293

9 ай бұрын

@@rachelchg57我們都開始搜尋了😊😊

這段音樂特別好聽，會令人心情 開懷 舒暢，百聽不厭，很喜歡

Xiang liu😢❤

看了这戏，我才知道爱一个人是成全。她开心幸福就好。很深爱她不一定要说出来，但做的都是爱她的事情

真正爱你的人，是用眼神同情你的人，不用你说出来。一个明白我在想什么和担心什么的人。

Great actor, singer, performer with excellent acting skill and talents. Very proud of his success as mainland Chinese Great actor! So perfect. Hope great success in nearfuture at worldclass level no 1. Try hard!

Tan Jianci is giving us Christmas present with a sweet drama Love me , Love my voice while we wait for season 2 ❤

非常喜歡相柳和這首歌，百聽不厭👍👍👍👏👏👏💐💐💐🌹🌹🌹🌺🌺🌺🥰🥰🥰

❤❤❤Tan Jianci has been active in the entertainment industry as a singer/actor/dancer for many years. He tried his best to make the songs, characters, and stage as perfect as possible. He is truly a humble and great performer. He also insisted on using his own voice to dub the characters and sing the theme songs. Looking forward to his second album and other upcoming drama (about 4+1 movies). His future sounds promising.❤❤❤

This is the only drama with Tan Jianci that did his talent justice. The story and everything about it was so good. I wish his other dramas were as good.

@wajinniej9594

4 ай бұрын

Love Me, Love My Voice. He really use his deep voice to the greatest there as the best dubbing actor

Xiang Liu: Even if I can't be by your side, I'm happy to be in your thoughts. I'm willing to risk everything to save you whenever you are in danger. Xiao Yao: Stop there. Never get much closer than this because I'm afraid...I'm afraid you'll find your way into my dreams. My heart knows that if I let you in, I won't let you out. The deepest part of my heart still misses you, and I don't know when that will stop...even if the sea runs dry. ❤

I'm in love with this Ost, I'm in love with Tan Jianci's voice. This series is absolutely wonderful and outstanding, Jianci's performance is amazing!

I watched this drama for xiang liu I was already captivated by his Beauty and chemistry with fl from the shorts and decided to watch it but as the drama proceeded I fell more for his character and subsequently tan jianci cuz ofc he was the one who made the character alive his acting was so on point that I just can't resist it but to fall for him more and more very well done

Superb tan jianci Xiang Liu, the best male lead in this drama,,,he can speaks with his eyes😍I'm his new fans

I love TJ. Love his role in Xiang Liu. Best looking, great performer.

I'm here again, I'm back because his voice is absolutely outstanding, Tan Jianci's talent is unlimited! please keep shining

Tan Jianci’s break out role in Winter Begonia 🎭was a triumph. He is nothing less than brilliant in the role of Xiang Liu. Looking forward to part 2 of “Lost You Forever “✨

嗚嗚～我的相柳大人，為了小夭做好多！實在太噴淚

kangen film ini,gak sabar nunggu sesion ke 2, xiang liu

700k coming, this wonderful mv deserves 1M and more, please Enjoy and share

I love this song, its so beautiful.🤗🫶

What a great song! Tan Jianci, how powerful you are! Love you, Xiang Liu. If I were Xiao Yao, I wouldn't have released your hand till the end.

第一次見到(檀健次 )~是獵罪圖鑑飾演沈翊 哪時就被圈粉了 沒想到相柳有被驚豔到 (檀多多)真的創造出獨一無二的經典角色 希望第二季快推出

All the songs from Yangzi 's series are truly magnificent.

好喜欢檀健次演的九命相柳啊🥹 爱死了😭 相柳值得被爱❤🥹

Obsessed with the song and with the character Xiang Liu! Absolutely stunning

Xiangliu xiangliu I miss YOUUU😭come back fastt

Soft voice, eyes full of love and pain, seems cruel but full of affection. In the end Waiting in vain, Xiang Liu makes my heart ache💔😭

Tan Jianci and his spectacular, wonderful and unlimited talent.

Idk I just feel a sense of my heart whenever I see xiangliu tan jianci has portray Xiangliu soo well

Xiang lui is the most characters I love in this drama. Tan Jian ci acting really really good. I love him and his voice.

@leona-ro

7 ай бұрын

We're on the same page absolutely I agree with you

眼神太深情了啊 清冷感破碎感很難讓人不愛

I fell in love with TJ character.. and fell in love with his voice ❤ and he is a good actor,he did justice to his dual character Xiang liu and FFB .

檀健次唱的好好呀❤

I want to watch this rare talent in more costume dramas, what a precious actor. I love seeing him participating or singing, a rare gem.

His voice is so so so charming. So many emotions in his vocals. I love it❤❤❤ Tan jianci, the actor and musician you are, incredible,❤❤

It's the soul of "Lost You Forever", without it it wouldn't be any fun.