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@jamielonsdale3018

2 жыл бұрын

Please, before choosing to state that there are 11 ships in the class, but deciding not to list their names, stop and think for a moment for people whom are legally blind or visually impaired, and cannot read what is on the screen. What you verbalise and what you don't have ramifications for those unfortunate people. Thank you sincerely for putting out these sub briefs. I salute you, and your service to the free world.

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

@@systarservices3554 Yes, it's here on KZread. You will get all the Sub Brief lectures here eventually.

@dutchbrotherfan1284

2 жыл бұрын

Why boycott Patreon? Perhaps I’m of likeminded

@markschattner2278

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking to see if you would do something specifically on the cursed Oscar tool I think that could be a good discussion you are very good at I think that could be a good What you do your videos really like listening to you You're a smart guy I think you could do a good job on that subject the Kirsk

@markschattner2278

2 жыл бұрын

Yes very thick hole didn't help on when torpedo's blew up inside

I was on a ship surveillance ship not far from the Kursk accident. I remember how horrified people were when accident was heard about. May the sailors of the Kursk rest in peace.

@shanegraham9077

2 жыл бұрын

Did u hear the explosions

@carlthehipsterprepper4506

2 жыл бұрын

@@shanegraham9077 i did not personally, I was just a navigation officer. The Navy detachment and Navy office higher ups heard/detected the explosion but did not know what it was right away.

@mrspeigle1

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently they found letters written by the crew before they ran out of air. They read some in the documentary, its heart breaking.

@shanegraham9077

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrspeigle1 do you have the source. Heard about letters about the damaged compartments. But I would love to hear more about the letters

@carlthehipsterprepper4506

2 жыл бұрын

My ship was about a 1 day sail from the accident location. We had underwater robotics on board and our assistance was offered but was not taken up. Something tells me that protecting state secrets was more important than the possibility of finding people alive.

Mouse Roar is the coolest name ever for sonar.🐀🦁

@thomasmaier7053

2 жыл бұрын

Because it's high frequency :D Kinda cute name, NATO gave it.

@Mmjk_12

Жыл бұрын

I think Moose Jaw was my favourite soviet sonar set lmao

@stevenlarratt3638

Жыл бұрын

Squirrel scream is next up...

@shaqm0bile

9 ай бұрын

Ant Rant@@stevenlarratt3638

interwar treaty heavy cruisers were 10k tons displacement, about the same as a modern ticondaroga. 20k for a sub is real big.

Oscar is my favorite sub. Such a big girl but not a hider like Typhoon, she goes hunting.

@asiftalpur3758

2 жыл бұрын

Oh it's your favorite sub? Name every crew member

@piotrd.4850

2 жыл бұрын

In some aspects, even more sophisticated and complex than Typhoon - almost as large, but there were 20 something of them. Expensive as f......k.

@rafalotreba6824

2 жыл бұрын

And what will happen when big girl goes hunting...?

@taraswertelecki3786

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, she was a predator, with very sharp teeth and claws. Not to mention a ship that can withstand what sinks most other submarines and even surface ships. When she goes hunting, things go BOOM!

@ViceCoin

2 жыл бұрын

Alfa was my favorite sub.

Good brief, yet K-266 'Orel' was seen heading for the Saint Pettersburg Navy day parade with full crew complement and attended it. I believe we can say it's operational.

@soonerfrac4611

2 жыл бұрын

Shhh…this is over a year ago that was published.

"I introduce you to Oscar II, project 949 alpha" *Graphic of a buff sexy sailor with sunglasses ripping off shirt while steam comes from the crotch area* Well...hello, Oscar! *YMCA by The Village People begins to play*

Thank you for an interesting story, and the fact that you pay so much attention to the submarines of my country, it's nice to see that they arouse interest, special thanks for the lack of politics and propaganda

@asd99579

2 жыл бұрын

Just like having a steak without salt and seasoning.

@kristinarain9098

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed I must admit the focus on the tech and design, without the nonsense and useless politicking is a major plus. This is why I love this channel. And hopefully this style of use generated non fussy non political propagandized , pure facts content will slowly but surely erode the legacy media and it's shitty politically-saturated-propagandized-business-as-usual-approach to any content it produces. This channel is how things should be done going forward

The 30% reactor cooling upgrade is helpful to the Russians as they have been known to use nuclear naval ships as mobile power plants for towns/cities. The steam can easily be piped off ship to a larger generator. Especially helpful when building/maintaining new bases in the Arctic Circle.

@unbearifiedbear1885

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, thanks 😘

Looking forward to this one. I have fond memories of ten year old me 27 years ago building the Dragon 1:700 Oscar from one of those hunters+hunted kits they used to do. (Hunters in that one were _Trafalgar,_ a Nimrod, and a pair of Sea Kings.)

@NorthForkFisherman

2 жыл бұрын

Those things are harder to find than a 1/350 Collins class anymore.

@gaberobison680

21 күн бұрын

Poor Trafalgar!

I am afraid you mixed up the chief designers for the sub and missile project, probably because both projects were called Granit. Pustyntsev was a sub chief designer. The chief designer of the P-700 Granit missile was Vladimir Chelomey.

I Served onboard the Saratoga from 87-90 (Air/V-1) and while I was aware of the fact the Russians are also watching I never really gave it much thought while I was working on the flight deck (staying alive during flight deck operations takes precedent). Having read James F. Dunnigans "How to Make War" before enlisting gave me a realistic mindset but when you're "military busy" you don't have time to worry about the enemies following your wake. The birds must fly regardless.

The Kursk is always a tough one, I've been to it's ship yard and have stood as a honour guard at the memorial as well as laying a wreath a few times.

Kalibr is an entire family of missiles, including land attack, anti-ship, and anti-submarine variants. Most of the attention has been on the land attack application, but I remember some years back reading about how the anti-ship variant was causing some concern to western planners, especially since Chinese Kilo class subs could use it. There are two main types of anti-ship Kalibr/Klub variants, one group is purely subsonic, like the standard land attack variants or the Tomahawk. The other group has a supersonic terminal phase, with a speed somewhere in the neighborhood of mach 3. I suspect the introduction of Oniks and Tsirkon has kind of reduced the relevance of the anti-ship variants, and I don't know if they are actually deployed, but they still appear to be viable.

@zolikoff

2 жыл бұрын

They are still much smaller than Oniks/Zircon so they should be deployable from more platforms, definitely still retains some use. And having an initial cruise phase should in theory mean you can use a longer range, pre-programmed path where the final attack may come from an unexpected angle, while the big powerful AShMs would have a more straightforward vector.

@copperlemon1

2 жыл бұрын

@@zolikoff All three missiles (plus the phantom P-900/3M-51, maybe) are supposed to be launched from the same 3S-14 UKSK and 3P-14B VLS. I don't think there is a huge difference in diameter, but judging from the diagrams and models I've seen there is a pretty big range of lengths that can fit in the systems mentioned.

"Her turn radius was really wide, you have an 18m-150m ratio, that thing is like a building and you're trying to turn it in the ocean.." So what you're saying is she's built like a bistro, but handles like a steakhouse? :D (reverse Futurama joke)

Great video captain! :) Fun fact about the newest upgrade, yes Granit missiles are replaced with the Onyx, but for every Granit they can fit 3 Onyx in the tube, so the number went up from 24 anti ship missiles to 72 on the new ones :) (Onyx-m with 800 km range) Kalibr has a 660km range anti ship variant, that is subsonic for most of its journey, but for the last ~ 50km the real warhead separates and with rocket power sprint attacks at mach 3. P.S. Since Kalibr, Onyx and Zircon can be fitted/fired from the same VLS system on ships, I wonder if they can just swap the Onyx missiles out for Zircons on the Oscars when they make enough of them.

Great job. One note regarding the Kursk, in 1998/1999 she came in Mediterrannean sea for a duty tour.1 week after coming in she had problem with one of its Propeller/port Shaft, like k119. It became easy to follow. After few days they turn back and sail to Russia.

I was underway on a sub in the pacific when news of the Kursk came through. Didn’t know much at first but the updates kept getting worse and worse. So surreal to know that sailors on the other side of the globe were trapped as I went about my regular watch routines and tried not to think about it. RIP to those on eternal patrol.

There's just _something_ about the beautiful inefficiency of Soviet govt department names - it's like they're designed to be announced by a herald at a royal function..... "Your majesties, may I present to you the Lord and Lady of the Presidium of the Scientific & Technical Council of the Ministry of Industry of the USSR!" (a bit ironic really, given the whole Bolshevik thing)

@hippoace

2 жыл бұрын

You should try some German projects and titles haha

@vladimirdyuzhev

2 жыл бұрын

Just spelling the hierarchy properly.))) All those names were abbreviated, so no need to waste time pronouncing them in full.

@medea27

2 жыл бұрын

@@vladimirdyuzhev I like it, leaving no-one in doubt about _exactly_ where you work 🧐 Now I'm curious, how long is it in the original Russian?

@safety_doggo2

2 жыл бұрын

@@medea27 In Russian it is usually shortened, for instance Commander of Battalion (Командир Батальона) to just ComBat (КомБат).

@gaberobison680

21 күн бұрын

It sounds that way but those names are actually technical and succinct considering its a state ran and thus highly vertical industrial system unlike the West were companies have far less scope.

Watch this while admiring the pre built and pre painted "Easy Model" 1:700 Oscar II i got a few weeks ago, brand new, for equivalent of $4.00 in Philippine Peso(₱).

Really Love your content I was waiting for this sub brief of Oscar class SSGN

15:24 Jive: references the schematic of the exterior compartment.... Navy Magic Mike: "not so fast"

I’m an acoustic operator on P-8As. I love this content. I would tell my nuggets (NUBS) to look up your old videos on oceanography, sound propagation, and submarine mechanical characteristics before coming to me for a sign off in their PQS. These briefs are fantastic! Such a robust amount of information. Thank you for the videos; keep em coming.

@SwissMarksman

2 жыл бұрын

What was it recently with all the P-8 flights near the Cypriotic / Syrian waterfront? Was there some sort of exercise going on? Never saw that many Surveilance airplanes before over there. US & UK. Also shotout to your Roger Federer T-Shirt.

Launching a nuclear autonomous torpedo should be considered a first strike attempt.

@core3086

2 жыл бұрын

My worry is that these "torpedoes" will fail at some point for any number of reasons and wash up on a beach somewhere without propper reactor cooling. or worse slam against costal cliffs until it splits open...

@NorthForkFisherman

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Let one of those slip the chain...that's an act of war.

Great video, really enjoyed that. Appreciating the knowledge.

Your videos are always such a treat, dude! Without going into too much detail, I'm a scientist, and your videos helped inspire me to seek a PhD which overlaps my current area of expertise with making NATO submarines better at something. (Yes, I know what I want to do.) Thanks so much for your service, educating us all up to the edge of what you can say, AND stopping at that edge. You rock 👍

@_Alfa.Bravo_

Жыл бұрын

... so you work for TKMS ???

Superb content as always. Thank You!

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

In the spirit of full disclosure, K-119 is a black sheep, but at least she's one that came home. 😥

Enjoy watching these video lectures. My son is currently deployed on his first sea deployment . Will earn his dolphins. Glad I found these videos to get some submarine education. Hope new videos keep coming. Thanks for making them available.

So Jive, any of these "unlucky" fires involve covert missions by Russia's enemies?

Just for the record.....I.....DID NOT.......hit the dislike button.....even tho I said so in the chat......your work is way way to good to even consider such an absurdity

Another great video! There are lot more things around the accident of Kursk, which you did not mention - and I (and many others) know why.

Thank you for taking the time to make these Sub Briefs brother man, the detail and history you show are the 100% top notch grade A+++ primo numbero uno benchmark for excellence! I would love to see you do some more briefs on other nations submarines or even surface vessels once you are done with the Russians. Your experience shines through when you talk about the intricacies. No matter what subject you decide upon though I will run like Forrest Gump to watch it! Something weird, I have had three TBI's in the past and they have caused me to have pretty severe memory recall issues but for some reason, idk if it's how you present your data or your voice or the data itself, I can recall much of the info I learn about from you. You could be a professor if you wanted to you know that? Idk, anyways thank you again for the vid! Keep it up!

Aaron, another great brief. Thanks!

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Great sun brief! Oscar subs are so big they a man or a dump truck in the frame to compare it to. I thought for sure when I first saw it, that it was an SSBN. Imagine that thing chasing your carrier group. 😳

One of my favorite class of subs.

@NorthForkFisherman

2 жыл бұрын

SSGNs in general?

You often hear people saying "why doesn't the US have SSGNs like the Oscars?", but at the end of the day, the US isn't facing anyone with fleets worth building Oscars for (yet).

@michaeljohnson4258

2 жыл бұрын

US SSNs are capable of carrying anti surface and land attack missiles. The Russians decided to make single mission subs while ours are multi mission. The Yasen is capable of both SSN and SSGN missions so the Russians are adopting our philosophy.

@cwjian90

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljohnson4258 well, a Harpoon/Tomahawk is in a different league to a Granit

@michaeljohnson4258

2 жыл бұрын

@@cwjian90 obviously it is. The US has much smaller range anti surface weapons compared to the Russian/Soviet ones. The US philosophy was to build smaller shorter range missiles while the Soviets went with massive ones. Their ships are built the same way, lots of long range missiles compared to the US.

@tyvernoverlord5363

2 жыл бұрын

We have the Ohio conversion SSGNS from Ohios that the fleet were looking at with a malicious eye, and thus they became SOCOM deployment platforms and/or SSGNS

I always thought the Oscar was amazing. The Falklands showed how vulnerable surface ships were to missiles (Exocet) in that era. I can't help thinking the Oscar really would've been a carrier killer.

Jive: Have you considered doing ‘Command: Modern Operations’ scenario gameplay? I know it is a bit complex and you may need to adapt your style to it, but it has so many platforms and scenarios that you discuss. Seems like a great engine for modeling “WhatIf” scenarios from a strategic standpoint.

@mrspeigle1

2 жыл бұрын

Seconding jive beginning to stream command, would be fun to see him get out of his comfort zone and start running surface ships and aircraft

@mandoreforger6999

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrspeigle1 definitely. Grim Reapers has some interesting and entertaining “How to kill a Carrier Battle Group” scenarios played out in DCS, which is graphically stunning, but it always annoys me that DCS does not simulate chaff rockets, Nulkas, ECM, etc. The SM2s engage way too late, especially given that they can receive OTH targeting from Hawkeyes, etc. Command at least attempts to simulate that. It is highly complex and can be almost exhausting to try and control everything, but it has decent AI and you can set a lot of assets to behave autonomously. With TacView you can get at least a little graphics goodness

@shanepatrick4534

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds interesting, I'll look it up. I think I saw that game on another video and forgot about it.

@theflyingfish66

2 жыл бұрын

Thirding this request. Wonder what his opinion on the accuracy of C:MO compared to Cold Waters would be.

Another sub brief! Thanks Jive, you're the man.

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

You bet

Would you be willing to do a short vid on all the submarines lost in 1968? I think that would be a good vid topic. To remind you (which you probably already know)-Scorpion was lost with all hands on May 22, 1968. She is one of two nuclear submarines the U.S. Navy has lost, the other being USS Thresher. It was one of the four mysterious submarine disappearances in 1968, the others being the Israeli submarine INS Dakar, the French submarine Minerve, and the Soviet submarine K-129.

Excelent video, as usual, thank you for that. Only thing (minor) you were wrong about is a cobalt nuclear warhead. Cobalt is not ment to replace uranium as a fuel, because it can't as it is not a fissile material. It is ment to be part of a nuclear warhead casing. It will then absorb some radiation, become radioactive and stay radioactive for very long time in form of radioactive fallout.

Hey are you planning on a video comparing the Kursk to the USS Thresher anytime soon? Also great video.

Amazing. Thank you

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you too!

Quality as always

I still can't read about Kursk without shuddering. It's probably my worst nightmare. They were burried alive.

@SubBrief - Have you watched the deep dive series with the USS Toledo, on the YT channel: Smarter Every Day? The series just aired the final episode and it goes quite deeply into the daily operations on a sub. Would you consider doing a React video and filling it out with your personal experiences?

I really enjoy these briefs, and your entire channel. I only just got into Cold Waters, it's a lot of fun. Have you done anything on the Shkval?

FWIW: Regarding the _Cobalt thing_ on those nuclear-powered torpedoes, see the Stanley Kubrick 'nightmare comedy' movie *"DR. STRANGELOVE (Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb)* from 1964. In that movie, the ground-based H-Bombs of the Soviet's _Doomsday Machine_ defense system were jacketed with a form of cobalt to cause the same effect.

Great presentation.

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly!

I swear it must've been a point of pride for the Soviets to design & build projects that the west thought of as crazy.

@vladimirdyuzhev

2 жыл бұрын

With the gap in technology, the reasonable chance to stay on par with NATO was to build the out-of-the-box vessels.

@tomascernak6112

2 жыл бұрын

@@vladimirdyuzhev Well, it was USA who was at bottom of that gap in 80s. Soviets were generation or two ahead in virtually anything in military aspect.

@vladimirdyuzhev

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomascernak6112 Right, especially in the noise level 🙄

@tomascernak6112

2 жыл бұрын

@@vladimirdyuzhev Yep, they were there superior too. Do you remember operation Atrina? Victors wiped their asses with 3 ASW groups when they were already tailed (something American or British submarines never achieved in exercises until Seawolf class). So obviously Victors were superior to LA and Trafalgar classes. But ... Victors were second class of Soviet SSN, technically waaaaaay behind Akula and Sierra classes. So now you understand? Superior in any aspect.

@vladimirdyuzhev

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomascernak6112 That was the time when we began to catch up with NATO tech. And with all due respect to the planners and the sailors, that operation had less to do with the noise level and more with the unexpected maneuver.

Thanku for your awesome content! Would love to laugh at the Ula-Class with you 😂

Excellent video about an iconic cold war sub. How about a brief on Soviet cold war naval missile systems?.

How the Kursk even existed at all beyond the reactor amazes me. Really makes one wonder if modern torpedoes are even able to sink/cripple a modern nuclear sub

Btw, project AM has replaced missile silos for larger ones with triple capacity. Granits were huge missiles and their silos were thickhulled. New silos are weaker but, more spacey. So in total, AM version can carry up to 100 missiles.

I would point to the Well There's Your Problem episode on the Kursk disaster.

K-119 was relatively successful career compared to the other "19s", K-19 and K-219. And for bonus K-129. If I got assigned to a russian sub with a K-number ending in 9 I would be very worried!

When she sails through the GIUK gap, she's forever trapped in the Atlantic because the turning circle is too large.

Fitting - I just read that there's an Oscar in distress off Scandinavia right now.

Has an emergency crew escape capsule (on any sub type fitted with one) ever been utilised or tested at sea? It's such an interesting engineering solution & I've heard about other 'proven' escape tech from the various WW1 & 2 breathing apparatus through to the McCann Chamber and modern sub rescue vehicles - I'm wondering if the capsules have ever been demonstrated? I remember the whole Kursk incident unfolding & the frustration all over the world that Russia wouldn't accept the offers of help - even the general public knew on day 1 that they were lying through their teeth & it was costing men's lives. Listening to the genuine anguish of submariners from all of the countries that tried to help is almost as heartbreaking as hearing the wives - politics be damned, everyone just wanted to bring them back alive.

@vuk3303

2 жыл бұрын

It has been used during the Mike SSN incident if I'm not mistaken

@SkinnerBeeMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@vuk3303 and all but one guy in the thing died. Lol it's real practical.

Thanks🤘👌 ⚓🦃these sub briefs are such gem of the YT it's so interesting I am always shocked by how advanced and sophisticated the Russian submarines are,the technology that gets me the most are the "escape pods" and automated system that lunches and reload torpedoes (I imagine it as huge hydraulic sort of revolver 😂🙄 )

Been waiting for this one!! Oscars were a Tom Clancy special! I wish I didn't have to be a downer, but RIP to the Kursk sailors though. They deserved better.

Interesting that the picture at the 6 minute mark is taken from the back of a Kirov in the same drydock

Do you do requests? I would love to hear you thoughts on the new columbia class ssbn's being developed. Not sure it would be worth it though, as there isnt much info, I'd imagine

What happened to the whole jive turkey thing?

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

Jive Turkey lives on inside all of us.

Yeah the entire coastline from Кола to Аркангелск is like one big naval base lol

The Oscar is a truly fascinating weapons platform. I suspect that NATO analyst were not initially convinced that the Soviets could build such a vessel, and to their shock when the Soviets did build such a ship. The idea that the Soviet’s could destroy entire carrier groups while submerged from hundreds of miles away was a terrifying one to comprehend for any naval force.

I'm chuckling more than a little bit at the idea of Mouse Roar getting the attention of American crews... because Americans aren't supposed to know it's there. The irony is hilarious.

Hey Jive, quick question fella.....when the Kursk sank was the USS Toledo(SSN769) in very close proximity at the time? Also how did it get damaged, warranting it limping back to Norway for repairs ? Thanks

@NorthForkFisherman

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't by collision with the Kursk if that's what you're implying. The Toledo is less than half the displacement of the SSGN. Had the two tangled, both would've ended up on the bottom. Anything else would be bumping up against his NDAs.

from what I remember they checked to see if it had flooded by using milk outside the hatch and then slightly opening it to see if any went in, death is rarely pleasant but drowning sounds like a bad one

i would love to see the history of the Royal Navy's current Vanguard class submarine

Can you do a video of the scariest move you were ever onboard during. Maybe worst rollercoaster type move you went through Unclassified of cause.

I read recently that the outer hull on the Oscar II is high-nickel, high-chrome content stainless steel while the inner hull is steel. Is that true for any of the other Soviet subs?

Can you please adress the Shkvall rocket-torpedo? I'd like to have your take on it and the implications of it. I remember the old legend, was he named Craven, say it was most impressive on paper. What do you think here?

Hey CaptainJive love ur videos. I was wondering did the Russian sub crews really do "crazy Ivans"? Like in the movie Hunt for the Red October..

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

The U.S. Navy term is "Circle Maneuver". and Yes they did them.

When will there be a Brief about the Foxtrot Diesels?

That displacement is larger than many ww1 era battleships

Was the Oscar 2 part of the 'Walker' upgrades?

2 years patreon, hope you're enjoying a few beers on me, thanks for all your efforts and fantastic videos and content!

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated! Thank you for 2 years of Patreon support.

kursk happened right around my 20th birthday :(

600m test depth but says a lot more than that in reality. Does some quick conversions…. *Unholy cow she’s a deep diving girl!!*

I feel so bad for the Kursk and her crew. Also for anyone on any submersible boat of naval secrecy. If there is a fatal incident or series of incidents, it is highly likely the crew will expire and sensitive areas and equipment moved away, sealed off, or otherwise destroyed before any 'help' can legitimately attempt to reach the crew. They were all very brave and dutiful sailors. They, and those of equivalent crews and their equivalent boats in all other navies around the globe, have my utmost respect as they all go underway knowing they may not return and their nations secrets will go down with them

Honestly with hardware and software being what it is these days I would be extremely surprised if there was a modren anti-ship cruise missile which did not have land attack capability, hell American sm6 missles are anti air, anti ship and anti missile, how hard would it be to stick a GPS chip on it?

What is that clip that pops up at 15:30 lol?

Hey cap...Do your Patreon Subscription comes along with your YT membership?Cause in India Patreon Payment Options are pretty limited

@SubBrief

2 жыл бұрын

They are separate services I offer.

If you had the opportunity to go on a deployment tour with a non US submarine, which one would you pick?

I just finished a model of the Kursk last month 👩‍🔧🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺

15:25 what was that Aaron? 😳, I wonder about you navy guys🤔😄

is there a theoretical maximum to the size of a sub?

@jacobszymczak9323

2 жыл бұрын

There probably isn't a maximum in terms of being physically possible but in a practical sense there probably is. Like with battleships vs smaller ships, you could make a massive sub that could carry a lot of ordinance, but at the end of the day you still only have one sub. For the same or less resources you could have several smaller subs that now you could deployed in different areas at the same time or have ready for redundancy. They would presumably also be faster and easier to maneuver, as well as "hide" both above and underwater. You could be super quiet but if you had something the size of a large building underwater it'd probably be pretty hard to hide from an active search. I dont see why couldn't make a sub that could make the Typhoons look small but you'd have so many fewer "super subs" then more "conventionally sized" subs it probably wouldn't be that useful in comparison. There are better ways to achieve the same "goals" in my opinion

@medea27

2 жыл бұрын

It comes down to trade-offs & what you want to get from your vessel. Engineering is a game of trade-offs - bigger VS heavier, functionality VS $$ cost, risk VS reward. And one of the biggest trade-offs underwater is how deep do you want to go VS your ability to withstand crushing water pressure. Think about the size of James Cameron's submersible that went to the deepest part of the ocean, the Marianas Trench - it was able to go WAY below the crush depth of any military sub, but it was built entirely out of very expensive materials like titanium & was so small he couldn't even stretch out in it. Military subs are a trade-off between strategic function & cost - diving as deep as your materials & engineering will enable you to go, with stealth, with the ability to carry & deploy ordinance (remember that your torpedos & missiles have their own trade-offs with useful depth, etc), with cost of building materials, fuel, etc etc. Also overlay your political & military agendas, like the bragging rights of your navy having 'the largest/quietest submarine' which often trades off with $$$. And us humans are very resourceful & very good at testing any theoretical boundaries, so its more a question of $$ and desire than any physical or engineering maximum.

With every video "flash" the FBI erases 24 hours worth of memories. ^.^

@BanterRanterr

2 жыл бұрын

🙄😂😨😨😨😨

There was one more operation of Oscar-II... When in 1999 NATO was bombing Serbia, "Kursk" K-141 was in Midterranian sea tracking US carriers and warships. There are nice pictures of CGs that shot via attacking periscope, showing US ships being unawared.

I thought Orel is the one that lost propulsion at sea last week...

Oscar SSGN: Big game to hunt even BIGGER game.

Why can’t you give more info on the mouse sonar?

Is there a visual timeline / “genealogy” of Soviet submarines, that traces the various iterations, generations and spin-offs? It’s SO confusing!

Shorter than Oscar 2? I thought it was longer?

15.33 you know what they say about sailors..

Gawd, that thing was a beast of the deep. Good thing they have never fired a shot in anger at a western country or it's navy.

Why do American submarines not have a escape vehicle like the Russians?This feature could’ve save lives on the Thresher .

@piotrd.4850

2 жыл бұрын

Well, in theory late soviet subs are MUCH safer: double and stronger hulls, much more reserve buoyancy, escape pods for entire crews .... and practice says that it is simply better not to have accident in first place :P

@lil__boi3027

Жыл бұрын

@@piotrd.4850 Cope

The Belgorod is at the bottom of the ocean now…….