Thank You for taking the time to upload and post the videos of this trial in full. I appreciate all your work.

Masipa should have been fired, she is an incompetent judge.

@Mdange_KaTshiwo

4 жыл бұрын

You are more qualified than her, in Law?

@vivavoice7211

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mdange_KaTshiwo Her sentence was a disgrace to victims of domestic violence. Her decision was rightly overturned to 13.5 years.

@Mdange_KaTshiwo

3 жыл бұрын

@@vivavoice7211 Judgements get overtuned daily by Higher Courts... But it doesn't mean the initial judgement was wrong.

@RG-ja34sep

3 жыл бұрын

I truly believe that the Judge had the hots for Oscar. She repeatedly protected Oscar whenever Prosecutor Nel was crucifying him. I agree that her sentencing was ridiculous!!!

He is insufferable! "Reeva was exaggerating, Reeva was lying..." What a horrible horrible coward. Makes my skin crawl!! Lock him up!

@stephenbrooke5860

10 жыл бұрын

Same sensation here, shak. Total skin crawl. The mind of the narcissist, writ large in open court. It's grotesque.

@Thedreamycatcher

10 жыл бұрын

yup now i know what "skin crawl" really means.

@RG-ja34sep

3 жыл бұрын

It’s absolutely pathetic to listen this whimpering example of a “man”. Oscar is a self-centred, immature, narcissistic, insecure and jealous whimp of an individual. Reeva seemed to be a bubbly, friendly and engaging person, Oscar certainly did not deserve anyone like her. RIP beautiful lady.

Oscar's friend and ex girlfriend say he shoots through a car sunroof in anger.Oscar asks a friend to take the blame for him shooting a gun in a posh restaurant . Oscar kills girlfriend. When does Oscar take responsibility for his actions?

@danielvilakazi6059

5 жыл бұрын

1digitalwatcher

I must say the prosecutor is really good.

If you wake in the night and hear a noise in the bathroom, I would think it was my husband using the loo.

@domdell6777

10 жыл бұрын

Thats the common sense that will end up convicting him.

@theexplosionist2019

10 жыл бұрын

dom dell Judges don't have common sense. UK judges certainly don't.

@billymillar6726

10 жыл бұрын

***** stealing his aftershave?

@mnmartin73

10 жыл бұрын

***** Unlikely but even if it's possible so what? He needed to ask "Reeva where are you?" before shooting with the intention to kill.

@billymillar6726

10 жыл бұрын

***** not at all but when one has houseguests it's a place where they're likely to be during the night so I find it incredibly hard to believe O P really thought it was an intruder.

Blame it all on poor Reeva! She is dead...and he is blaming her, what a COWARD!!!

When I listen to Oscar's responses to the texts written by Reeva to Oscar I get so disgusted at how clueless he is to his level of entitlement and his inability to perceive how self-centered he is. I wonder why she continued to stay with him. I am so sick of men killing women. I am so sick of the attitude men have toward women. The one good thing that is coming out of this terrible murder is that it is touching people around the world, and we are all getting to see and feel the attitudes of others regarding the treatment of women. The more I learn about Reeva, the more I believe she was the epitome of femininity, sweetness, and just an all around lovely person, yet she ended up with four bullets tearing at her body and head. If ever a person deserved to be treasured and treated graciously, she is an example of that person. I do not mean she was better or more deserving than any of the other women who get murdered, but we get to see this relationship under a microscope in front of the entire world. I hope men will look at the woman that loves them and just appreciate her and that love. I also hope women who are being treated badly by any man, even if he is a superstar, gets out of an abusive relationship with their life and dignity intact. I would love to see the language that belittles women, the movies that view them as little more than whores, and anything that depicts a woman as someone less than worthy of respect and love come to an end. At least something good will have come out of this tragedy.

lock the guy up...final

So glad Nel called him out on that vuglar fauxpology!

YOU GO NEL! *As macabre as it may sound:* when Pistorius says he simply wanted to "protect her" he's not even lying. He wanted to _protect her from a life without him._ If he can't have her, nobody else will. And that alone makes this trial so challenging - because of his twisted intentions, he's able to show true emotions - able to apologize. Pistorios is not your typical murderer. He's more like this egocentric half-god.

@mspugs44

10 жыл бұрын

Like thinking he could get away with it? Well, Nel is doing a great job: tearing down his ego bursting his bubble letting him know that he's no half-god and the longer this trial goes on hopefully OP can come clean but somehow i have gut feeling he is too self centered to ever admit murdering Reeva intentionally. I wouldn't think this trial is anymore challenging than what Nel has experienced in the past with all his accolades, etc. He is quite the prosecutor in his own right.

Thank you so much We really appreciate

Better than any movie! The sad thing is it's real life.

@RommyTobinson

Жыл бұрын

He's not clueless he's knows exactly what hs sociopathic ways are dealing with. A normal loving person is a threat and he should he wiped off this planet

I could never be a Judge because you have to really, really listen. My mind would be wandering about my grocery list, weekend plans, etc. Props to my lady.

@leelee6000

5 жыл бұрын

I be thinking of what's on on television

Nel is right, he is not taking responsibility for his mistake..

Has Oscar been smoking alot of "dagga"?He doesn't remember shit!Oscar doesn't know how to lie properly, he needs to be trained by OJ.

@Wheezerism

10 жыл бұрын

It is amazing isn't it. Yet he claims he can remember where every small object was placed that night....that's why he just knows the crime scene had been 'tampered with'.

@AfriNam1894

10 жыл бұрын

Carrie Aldighieri Law caught up to him again and now his in jail.Its always like that, once you get away with the first crime then you'd feel like OJ and commit another.

@AfriNam1894

10 жыл бұрын

Carrie Aldighieri I think he was using steroids too.

@AfriNam1894

10 жыл бұрын

Carrie Aldighieri Lol, by Kendrick Lamar.

@AfriNam1894

10 жыл бұрын

Why's that?LOL

I think this boy killed because of jealousy.

@Meesha1231

10 жыл бұрын

Me too

@TheShmoo123

10 жыл бұрын

Meesha1231 . and thought he could get away with it because he believes he is a massive enough star to dodge the bullet that poor Reeva couldn't. I really hope My Lady can see right through him and that Reevas parents and family get the justice Reeva deserves.

@Meesha1231

10 жыл бұрын

TheShmoo123 "I really hope My Lady can see right through him and that Reevas parents and family get the justice Reeva deserves". Same here

The woman to Nells left is a genius, she's guiding Nell throughout the questions.

@joshuasteenkamp3277

Жыл бұрын

Ms.Andrea Johnson and we are so proud of her

On April 9, session 5, 41:16 -41:20 O.P. testifies, "THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE FAN WAS WHERE THE ACCIDENT HAPPENED", evidence from Oscar Pistorius that the "ACCIDENT" started in the bedroom. The statement happened so quickly that Prosecutor Nell did not catch it. Photo evidence at trial showed "BLOOD SPLATTER" on the bedroom carpet and on the duvet.

If he starts that whiny voice every time he gets his feet put to the fire, I will believe him to be nothing more than a manipulative, arrogant man who is on an ego trip. Notice how many times he says I and talks about his needs. Not only did he kill her he is now calling her a liar in the text she wrote him.

@susanmarlin2571

10 жыл бұрын

exactly - you have completely summed him up so well

@maatkare28

10 жыл бұрын

Eloquently Said!

No one has ever called him on his BS. She did and he went into a rage.

@MissesCakes

4 жыл бұрын

💩

Nel is a "zombie stopper", so sharp at stopping the Zombie crap that OP talks in court.

That's why she wanted to break up with him because he treated her so badly. But he couldn't have a beautiful woman dumping him because " I am Oscar and nobody leaves Oscar." If Oscar does not burn for this then we are all in hell.

i can't believe things got so bad after just a few months together! i think oscar pistorius is guilty and reeva ran to the bathroom to escape him, i've done it myself fleeing from an angry boyfriend! what a monster!

@notmyrealname2491

10 жыл бұрын

you judge him based on your past mistakes, you must be In the man haters club. he will be judged by his god and by a court of law.

@billymillar6726

10 жыл бұрын

i'm not a man hater i just have an opinion which i expressed and am entitled to, that's all :)

@billymillar6726

10 жыл бұрын

p.s. i am a woman using my partners you tube account in case anyone was wondering lol

@Caramello98

10 жыл бұрын

billy millar You are correct. Men with ego or inferiority complex always have excuses for what they do. They say nasty things. How she put up with him is beyond me,did she feel sorry for him, wanted to boost his confidence. This he would see as being a tease. I feel that the woman he wanted to make a life with would have to be a prude ,not a woman of the world. Reeva says in a text to him. ' I never said I was a prude' H

@Caramello98

10 жыл бұрын

Caramello98 He wanted a mother a lover,and virgin Queen wrapped up all into one. I feel that his view in women is very low.

He needed someone to take care of him, pamper him , do whatever he wanted and that`s it, what a CONTROL FREAK no wonder she had a pass code on her phone ,,thank god she did....he`s a pathological liar......lie ,lie then lie some more,,wow everybody else is the liar not HIM...

This asshole based on the way he answer/dodging the questions and make it difficult for the prosecutor sound to me he's 100% guilty. If he have nothing to hide...he should not have nothing to worry about and speak naturally and honestly. The fact that he makes it difficult says it all. Also a lot of things don't make sense. Let's just say he never seen his gf head to the bathroom (let's give him that), who the hell would just head to the bathroom with a gun without confirming that she's still in the bed? Every human being would say something like "honey, did you hear that?" "i heard a sound in the bathroom." This would confirm that your gf is with you before you head to the bathroom to investigate (if you truly care about her). He clearly did not do that and can't invent a story like this because that would confirm she's with him. Also, if you have gun with you, what the hell are you afraid of?? And if you see the robber is in the bathroom door closed...you would have turned on the light and wait and ask who's inside. And why the hell a robber want to hide inside a toilet lol stupid and locked LOL. And why would you shoot without asking who's inside? Any human would say...."who's inside?" when holding a gun. And clearly he realize if he said that, his gf would reply to him...so he can't invent that story. All these tell me this fool is a fucking liar. I think they had a big argument and she was scared of him and go inside the bathroom. He threatened to shoot her and he did with 4 rounds ....whether he intend to just hurt her or killed her..i don't know but clearly he doesn't care at that point due to absolute anger.

@kathrynmcmorrow7170

10 жыл бұрын

Yeah, what's his answer to why Reeva never answered?

@timpike6031

10 жыл бұрын

completely agree

@notmyrealname2491

10 жыл бұрын

maybe he was a victim of some type of home invasion and he wasn't thinking clearly maybe he killed her knowing, the brain can do tricky things when fear is involved, fear starts out as a reflex signal in the brain. The signal travels to the amygdala - a region near the base of the brain. The amygdala fires a brain chemical called glutamate out into two other regions of the brain. The first region makes us freeze or involuntarily jump. These reactions are so automatic because the signal is sent deep into the base of the brain to an area that we have little control over. The second signal is sent to the hypothalamus and triggers our autonomic nervous system - the system responsible for the fight or flight instinct - when our bodies go into superman mode. It elevates our heart rate and blood pressure and pumps adrenaline throughout our bodies. That's the rush you feel when scared. Read more: www.businessinsider.com/our-brain-chemistry-when-we-get-scared-2013-10#ixzz2zDzfhH00

@notmyrealname2491

10 жыл бұрын

***** if he has a brain defect its enough for one of those to happen. innocence doesn't guarantee freedom in a broken legal system nor does guilt guarantee justice,

@jesushchrist4647

7 жыл бұрын

are you talking to me busy boy? yes, that's true also...

Because of the death of his mother at age 16, I am sure many women have given him a pass when he would act like a jerk. They would feel sorry for him. I believe he has used that to manipulate women. Listen to how everything is about him.

@blue-sv4wk

10 жыл бұрын

Notice how often he 'forgets' when it is convenient for him. I also should mention he gets a pass for both his celebrity and his disability.

@blue-sv4wk

10 жыл бұрын

***** I'm with you. His story is so unbelievable. I don't believe his story about how Reeva how behaved during the "break-in." As I have said, I have had an intruder in my house, and I made sure I knew where all three of my children were at all times. It makes me sick that he is making himself out to be a hero holding the weapon between the fake intruder and Reeva. Jodi Arias did the same thing. She said she rushed the woman to try to get Travis out of the house. I love watching trials.

@blue-sv4wk

10 жыл бұрын

***** I am looking forward to the continuation of the trial. I hope he is found guilty. I think "my lady" can see right through his lies.

"I never got the chance to tell her I loved her, instead I loved her to Death!" Another whining day yet Reeva's family has been stoic thru out thus entire trial. My heart goes out to them!

this session contains some incredible testimony, especially concerning the tasha`s restaurant incident. OP testifies repeatedly that, although the glock pistol cannot discharge without someone pulling the trigger, it was not he who pulled the trigger! this is absolutely amazing - even more so considering that he makes the EXACT same claim regarding his killing reeva steenkamp: in both instances, he states "I didn`t have time to think", and in both instances, he cannot recall having discharged the weapon himself! this is simply incredulous and clearly shows, in my humble view, one thing: that the accused oscar pistorius is -in both instances- lying. in both instances, there is no other way to shoot than by consciously pulling the trigger. mr pistorius in in a state of complete denial...this should nail this case.

@bouncyshak

10 жыл бұрын

The arrogance is astounding

@donkeyshot8472

10 жыл бұрын

***** yes I know from personal experience, which is why, etc...

@Charleymar

10 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@jah4780

9 жыл бұрын

The former Paralympian was denied parole on Friday because he did not yet serve the required half of his sentence for the murder of Reeva Steenkamp. JOHANNESBURG - A legal expert said Oscar Pistorius's parole hearing shouldn't have taken place if he wasn't eligible yet.1 Apr 2023

Oscar cannot be as petrified by the prospect of break-ins that he maintains. He tells us that he left his balcony doors open until about 3:am while he and Reeva were sleeping. The posited "intruders" could just as easily have propped their ladders against the balcony proper. Not only that, but by having the fans running between where he and Reeva were sleeping and this possible entry point, he was significantly reducing his chances of hearing "them" coming.

I apologize for what I wrote about Nel so far. Apart from the burst pumpkin or watermelon touch which was inappropriate and unforgivable in front of Reeva's family, he is GOOD !

@bouncyshak

10 жыл бұрын

It was appropriate for a murder trial, and he pre-warned the family. There's no point in him applying a soft touch - Oscar sure didn't!

@Beirut27

10 жыл бұрын

***** I know but that dramatic approach was more Roux's style, not his style...

@windhorse12

10 жыл бұрын

He had asked Reeva's mom before they did it. She told them she knew it was necessary and wanted him to see the photo

@allanjoshua5799

10 жыл бұрын

I think the intent of that was to bring a bit of balance to where it was heading.... Even I, who do not know much about his past started to get a feeling that he PROBABLY might not have harmed anyone on purpose due to the Character evidence which was built the previous day.... It was just a reminder of what they are in court for, to bring a sense of reality and seriousness as to what he had done and how GRAVE it is.... Not to explain how he helped disabled ppl in the past and blah blah blah... and act as if he did ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong and shot only in self defense..... The image took everyone by shock and the world will now realize the GRAVITY of what he had done... put things in perspective..... Might have been an overkill but I think even Reeva's mom agreed it was necessary......

Once again I just cannot believe that Oscar is claiming that he did not even have his finger on the trigger when that gun went off in the restaurant. While it is obvious that his strategy is to completely avoid any scenarios which can portray him as reckless (pulling the trigger in a restaurant would be reckless) does he not realize that he is then asking the judge to believe that a supernatural event caused either the hammer to pull back on its own and fire the bullet or the bullet to go off as a result of high heat that caused the gunpowder to explode without the fuse being hit. In other words, does he not realize that by avoiding looking reckless, he has made himself look like a liar, which is TEN TIMES worse, since being caught lying is all the judge will need to convict him.

@danielking9830

10 жыл бұрын

It is pretty crazy. I think if a gun went off without pulling trigger, you would be stunned and want to know why, and talk to people about it. But if you pulled the trigger, thinking it wasn't loaded, of course you understand why it went off and have no reason to talk to anyone about it.

@dlyras

10 жыл бұрын

This will be his downfall in the end and I'm glad. The fact that he has pleaded not guilty to all charges exposes him for what he really is. According to him, he has done NOTHING wrong. Shooting his gun out of a sunroof never happened (2 witnesses are lying), the gun in the restaurant went off by itself (miraculous event), and he shot 4 times at Reeva "without thinking" or meaning to shoot anyone. So nothing is his fault really. It shows the arrogance of the man, and speaks volume for his character. How he sits there on the stand and lies in that innocent school boy tone grinds me like you cant believe, and he deserves to be locked up before someone else gets killed (due to no fault of his own of coarse,)

@KNOWHOPE72

10 жыл бұрын

dlyras Correct. Pleading not guilty to ALL charges was a big mistake and has left him with no sympathy.

They even dated 4 months and this happened?..... Did they even have a honeymoon stage in their relationship?

@bouncyshak

10 жыл бұрын

His relationship with Samantha only lasted longer because she was a 16 at the time - young girls are easier to control. He makes me sick.

@sharlottemtshatsheni2825

10 жыл бұрын

anching07 Oscar is scary am telling.

Please remember OP never once looked at Nel while under x examination , only at his lap or the Judge. This is a fact reported by those in court.

@pps1fan

10 жыл бұрын

That's another sign of guilt...someone who avoids eye contact in any situation is a clear sign of lying...body language experts will have had a field day analyzing him in court!

@pps1fan

10 жыл бұрын

I think this is why he didn't want himself televised whilst being in witness box as he knew that the media would scrutinize him even harder then they are now...he's a coward and a selfish arrogant monster. Happy that Gerrie Nel is such a great prosecutor and has exposed him for the lying murderer he is.

@stephcorley6835

10 жыл бұрын

pps1fan that's the correct way to address his answers by looking at the judge, it's not nel who needs to look into o.p eyes to see if he is credible but the judge... This is common place for addressing the court, has nothing to do with not be able to look at nel......

@nickharris9761

10 жыл бұрын

steph, if that is the case why did other witnesses look at their x-examiner in the eye?

@pps1fan

10 жыл бұрын

Nick Harris I don't think Steph realises that he isn't just addressing/answering the Judge it is the whole court...well that is what I think anyway!

Not happy with blowing lovely Reeva's brains out, he now wants to assassinate her character as well in front of the whole world. Shameless coward. My prayers are for her family.

Oscars PISSTORIES are coming back to haunt him hehe

At 1:39.56 " I did not have time to think; the fire arm went off [at Taashas]." This was his same explanation when he shot Reeva. It's never his fault. This excuse he thinks exonerates him from taking responsibility.

When does the laughter occur? I don't want to watch the whole thing.

Is this session just not working for me or is it everyone? I need to see session 1 lol

Can you make this available on mobile devices by any chance please :)

What's the name of the song he played? I couldn't understand with the accents.

OP is losing it, his finger was not on the trigger when the short was fired. Poor guy. What an embarrassment.

At ANY time, had OP been genuinely afraid of an intruder (WHAT intruder breaks into a house fortified with alarms dogs and in a 24 hour guarded security development only to HIDE IN THE BATHROOM???) he could have retrieved Reeva and gone out the front door of his house to safety. OP's FIRST call was to a female attorney friend of his, not to emergency services and he told the guard who did call that everything was fine. But the BIGGEST mistake OP made with this ridiculous implausible intruder BS is, at no time did he ever try to ascertain where Reeva was before he fired FOUR SHOTS through the door. They had been arguing (correction; he was fighting Reeva was trying to calm him down) about texts/emails Reeva had received from an ex, the soccer player.

@MissesCakes

4 жыл бұрын

Schuyler Johnson and the judge bought it!

His defense needs advise him to keep his answers to be short and concise. He is digging his own grave...........

As rude and cruel as it is, it's the job of the prosecutor to not treat him like the little boy he wants to act like at times in this case.. . Nel has an amazing point in asking him why he chose to do the apology for the first time in the middle of court. "I didn't think it was appropriate to apologize". . . She says: "you pick on me incessantly", but that doesn't really mean that I ever pick on her. "I got short with her", but he never has... Pathetic.

"I think out relationship got strong"OP-sure up to the point were you shot her to death in a argument

I hope everyone who's interested in this trial is able to watch this on ESPN3 -- they've got the BEST quality signal -- they're re-streaming the Oscar Pistorius Trial Channel. For viewers in North America, or anyone outside of South Africa, for that matter, ESPN3 is the channel of choice. ESPN is the property of ABC networks, so you'll have to go through go.com -- espn.go.com -- good luck.

Darren Fresco testified that he told you that there was 1 up when he passed you the gun. Stop lying!

what a piece of work this tool is

Oscar Pistorius; I can't remember my lady

Nel: "Why would she be scared of you"? Oscar: "She is scared of the feelings she had for me" Nel: "SHE IS SCARED OF WHAT"? Like really Oscar...Even a 5year old kid can come up with a better explaination than that #dissapointed

U.K. seems to be the only country where trials in court are not televised

GO NEL GO - luv this prosecutor now - he is really going for it - at last

We'l get there Mr Pistorious , we'l get there.

Does anybody know what thing is hanging around guys neck ? She keeps holding it with his hand ???

The bald gentleman behind Prosecutor Nel can’t even bear to look at Oscar, he is so disgusted with his lies, deceitfulness and narcissistic ways. A clear and accurate picture of how pathetic Oscar’s overall character and his disturbing personality! I feel so much for Reeva’s parents, it must be so incredibly painful that this pathetic individual took their beloved daughter’s life. RIP Reeva.

were not even ten minutes into this and he started to cry.

@definaj7532

10 жыл бұрын

Was Oscar crying while he was shooting threw the bathroom door.!!

@nickylup9566

10 жыл бұрын

That's what the prosecutor should ask him if he was crying when he shot into the door

@definaj7532

10 жыл бұрын

nicky lup Yes I hope he ask that question to him and if he does let me no Honey,LOl

@nickylup9566

10 жыл бұрын

Yes I will baby I'll let you know

@definaj7532

10 жыл бұрын

nicky lup OK.

It's not working

Anybody know where I will find session 1?

Pistorious, what a manipulative man. He changes his speech with the aim of confusing and deviating the questioning. A technique that many passive abusive people use. He is also a pathological narcissist, it is all about him. He is a wolf disguised as a lamb. Doesn't fool me for a second. Guilty as hell!

One point I have not seen made. Why would she lock the door if she had just gone to the toilet in the middle of the night ? Was the toilet used ?

A GLOCK pistol has no external safety lever, that is standard for all Glock caliber weapons. Glock does not make single action pistols, it does not make revolvers or rifles. I own 2 Glock pistols, one in 10mm and another in .357SIG. It is a double action pistol which can NEVER go off by itself. It cannot even be discharged with a light pull of the trigger, has to be a full 4 lbs trigger force. It is a standard police weapon in 9mm and .40S&W calibers always in the holster with a round IN THE CHAMBER. The intrinsic safety is it's internal double action therefore it is 100% safe unless it is roasted on a fire. Although all other pistols do have external safety levers, single or double action . OP should have done his homework before testifying, he's simply digging his own grave. I feel bad for him. Jackson, Mississippi.

@perikaveera4438

10 жыл бұрын

tiffsaver i agree with you, sir. But accidents do happen even with the most experienced of us, sometimes due to overconfidence, other times due to carelessness. But with O.P discharging a Glock in a restaurant without touching the trigger and then continuing to lie about it with such conviction, under oath, just nullifies any benefit of doubt in his favor on the night of Reeva's death. Now there is no reason left to believe his version. In hindsight, had there been another person in the house that night, maybe a friend that was visiting, I'm positive OP would have put the blame squarely on that person. Maybe even killed the poor visitor after killing Reeva so as to not have a living witness left. And then told the cops that the visitor killed Reeva and then in self defense, he killed the visitor. Just as he said he was upset at his friend's negligence who handed him the Glock loaded. The friend probably handed him the pistol with a full clip but an empty chamber, then macho man OP pulls the slide, one now in the chamber and pulls the trigger....and BANG!! Followed by Operation Cover-Up, Blame-Game, etc. But in my humble opinion, the remaining days of the trial after his GLOCK lie is simply prolonging his public trial. The prosecution could have wrapped up the trial that day itself. Every sane person knows he killed her in a fit of rage. I am a holder of a gun permit + concealed carry (CCW). Not including my big game to dangerous game rifles, I have two Glocks- .357sig & 10mm, a .357mag Rhino rev, a Dan Wesson 1911 .45acp, a Ruger .44rem mag SBH single action rev, a Desert Eagle .50AE pistol-it's a gas operated single action unlike the 1911 single action, a AK-47 handgun(short barrel and no stock) Yugo M92 PAP. Point I'm trying to make is that these are all different calibers and different mechanisms- which you being a gun owner yourself, are fully aware. If OP had said the same lie about an unlocked 1911 pistol, it could have been believable. Not just that, although here in the U.S., the 9mm used in Reeva's death is not itself considered a big round but along with .40S&W, it is standard law enforcement issue. But when you use jacketed Hollow Point ammo, at close range x multiple shots especially the Black Talon kind (which I've never used or even seen first hand), it's a game changer altogether. Your self defense purpose or intention goes straight outa the window!! It becomes purely and wholely destructive in purpose. Then of course, there is basic and advanced training which tells you that you may never use a .50 Cal or even .44 RemMag for self defense (unless you are being robbed by an armed Grizzly bear)....and many many other things I can't list here. When you use a gun in self defense, it is only after you have confirmed that the other guy is an imminent threat, he is armed with a gun- of which you have made a 100% visual confirmation unless he is reaching for a concealed one, then is preparing to use that gun on you, and you despite being armed and trained, do not have time to run or call 911 before he takes you down. Even before you draw your own weapon, you try to reason with him first if you think that would help defuse the situation. Some of those measures are very individual and subjective but will go a long ways to save your ass from prosecution later on, if you did indeed happened to kill the attacker. Most of this INFO I've given here is for those folks with no handgun training or those who have never owned or handled a firearm or people living in countries where legal guns are rare. Although here in the United States most of it is common knowledge. In a nutshell, Reeva was murdered and OP is screwed. Jackson, Mississippi.

@tiffsaver

10 жыл бұрын

perikaveera What are you doing with that Desert Eagle, brother?? Skunk Ape hunting? :-)

@perikaveera4438

10 жыл бұрын

tiffsaver There is more than enough circumstantial + conclusive evidence to prove OP's guilt that we can hardly comment on, that's the lawyers job. We can just talk about the firearms and ballistics part. Besides the above, I've performed & assisted in several Forensic autopsies myself as part time Medical Examiner earlier when I lived in Ohio- from gunshot wounds, rape, drowning, burns, poisoning, strangulation although now I'm a full-time M.D. physician treating "living" patients. I've posted my observations on her death and also corroborated the testimonies of a couple of state witnesses who deposed before the Hon. Judge that Reeva's scream were heard briefly even after the last, fatal head shot. The defense counsel Mr. Roux scoffed at that possibility thereby implying that the witness was not reliable. But if you go to the videos of the initial week of the trial, you'll see my comments when you scroll down a bit. Jackson, Mississippi.

@perikaveera4438

10 жыл бұрын

tiffsaver Lol. Just a collector. I dont hunt either. Go to the range on weekends maybe once a month.

@tiffsaver

10 жыл бұрын

perikaveera My three all-time favorite autopsy mysteries are Bruce Lee, Marilyn Monroe, and JFK. Care to elaborate your theories from a forensics standpoint?

One lie after another. Your day is done.

I rather like the way Nel is looking at Bad Runner, as if to say : we all know you've been lying through your teeth now try to answer my questions instead of saying the lines Mr Roux made you learn.

I love the prosecutor he is brilliant .I'd want him on my side

The text Reeva sent him pretty much says it all. He comes across as a bully who can snap and that night it got too much and they had an argument and he ended up shooting her through the bathroom door where she ran into after an argument.

Are they all native english speakers? Or is this just a south african accent? They sound like french/german trying to imitate aussie.

@Kaneth98

10 жыл бұрын

English is their first language in most cases, its just their accent is a little weird.

@Fifi387

10 жыл бұрын

They might be, or it could be their second language, with the first language being afrikaans-which is very close to dutch and might explain the european sounding accent. I agree with you though, I've always thought south africans sound sort of australian

Nel is brilliant. Just let him go on and on and on and on Never Being Wrong. Oh. My God. By the end of this session, I want to jump through the screen and strangle him. Not even because he's a relentless liar, but because he is an unspeakably tiresome bully, nag, self-pitying, self-regarding slippery narcissist fraud. That poor child was just trying to get out of this. She must have suddenly realized that she couldn't subject herself to any more of him.. She was trying to do the right thing, stop hitting her head against a brick wall, and get back to the people who loved her. She realized no one could convince him to feel secure *in himself* no matter how they tried.

@flyinspirals

10 жыл бұрын

In fact, one could say that, in his slippery narcissistic way, he's *transferring* the insecurity he felt in himself in a love relationship to a claim that it was insecurity for his *person* that caused his actions. A really accomplished liar and self-deceiver will keep to the framework of truth as much as possible.

He is lying. He says he was alone in the house with Reeva, but he wasn't. Frank, the housekeeper, was also there.

I think the both of them was the perfect storm that turned deadly.

Oscar needs to stop feeling sorry for himself, with his stupid explenations and take responsibility for taking her life , it was no mistake!

@ntombimjuza7912

10 жыл бұрын

That is so true Carmen he need to stop all these explanations that doesn't make sense and just admit of what he has done the more he drags it the more torture he goes through, he killed her there's no explanations will change that

Reeva was three years older than Oscar and seemed to be more mature.

Why does he keep saying "my lady" while speaking to a man?

It must be awful to live in South Africa , with all that crime and you have to live in a compound,for safety !! He is a cry baby liar!

@crasterfarai9581

7 жыл бұрын

not very safe are they victoria ?

This man did not kill Reeva intentionally. I am not sure what the people posting comments base their judgement of OP's guilt. I am an American and used to the American judicial system where proof of guilt MUST be presented by the State beyond a reasonable doubt. I have watched every minute of this trial and I have found so much reasonable doubt already. I try to keep reminding myself to keep my mind open to his possible guilt. But each day I watch this court proceeding I am more convinced than not in his innocence. People say: Why didn't he hear her scream after the first shot? If he was doing all that hollering "Reeva! Call the Police! Someone is in the house!", why didn't she say something? Why did she lock the toilet room door? I have asked many women this question: If you got up to go to the bathroom at 3 am and your husband was heading to the open balcony area to bring in a fan last you saw him and next thing you hear is him screaming there is an intruder, what would you do? Everyone agrees. I would think my husband encountered the intruder on the balcony. I would think if I was already near the toilet room door, I would run in there, lock the door and remain quiet. The first shot I might not scream for fear the intruder would come and do worse.

@marlad2155

10 жыл бұрын

Ok...I just watched the coverage 1:30 about count 3. Oscar is guilty of count three! A gun does not magically discharge like a rabbit in a hat! Dude didn't think his story through. He looks stupid on this one.

@scoop8035

10 жыл бұрын

I cant understand why it didnt cross his mind that it could be Reeva in the bathroom when he heard noise as she was awake at the time going by his evidence, so it was easily possible. Also if he thought she was in bed, he could of asked her or felt for her as he was in the bedroom when he first heard noise.

@bintuae1

10 жыл бұрын

no Marla. I'm a girl and if I was in this situation, I'd scream with the first shot and if my husband call me i'd at least whisper..

@marlad2155

10 жыл бұрын

We can all be arm-chair quarterbacks as outsiders looking in. However, let me offer this to your thoughts about why he didn't check the bed first or first think of that maybe it was Reeva in the bathroom. This man has a physical disability. I do not have one. I can only imagine, which isn't fair, but that's all I can do. How vulnerable must a physically disabled person feel when faced with perceived danger- as in this case? I would think much like a person blind in one eye can still drive and such because the other eye compensates- to a limited degree. So, I would think his adrenaline began at the second he heard a noise. In a very dark room shadows were his only vantage point. Did he over react? Maybe. Did his vulnerability lead to hyper-fear? Probably. His mind was in fight or flight mode immediately.

@kathrynmcmorrow7170

10 жыл бұрын

Chris Cooper Yeah, you know, sometimes try turning on the lights when you hear a noise in a dark space.. Might give the intruder enough pause to spare Oscar extra time to think after he thinks to reach for his gun.

He said the same thing when describing firing the shot at Tashas`s as he did about shooting through the door that night. "I did not have time to think". Yeah, right! *eyeroll*

A GUILTY person and one that CONTINUES TO LIE, will always choose to say “I don’t remember”. This lengthy WhatsApp message is in my opinion a clear indication of how dodgy and toxic their relationship was specifically because of Oscar. His issues and behaviour was the problem and everything in the message points to her being victimised and Oscar being the dominant one. The other important fact here is that this message was sent only two weeks before Reeva’s death. I truly believe that she went to Oscar that fateful evening to end their relationship, and he became enraged and confrontational, an argument ensued, and this caused her to try and leave his residence. He snapped, chased her to the toilet, and we all know what happened! There’s NO WAY that a vulnerable person, especially a disabled one & a coward, would decide to approach an extremely dangerous situation. In addition to that and in the situation, surely he would have asked Reeva if she had also heard a noise from the bathroom. His version is not even close to improbable, it’s non existent, it never happened that way and he knows it. He should be in prison for the rest of his life!! RIP Reeva ❤️❤️❤️.

Oscar canot take responsibility for anything, the judge must of been payed off to give him the lightest sentance possible concidering the damning evidence about his character, or lack of, nothing alse makes sense. Now she must do the right thing and lock him away for 25 years.

well nice pattern by oscar pistorius when he explains that there was a shot but his hand was not on the trigger.. wow magic shot ... this guy denies everything which is so obvious... jesus christ... how can this guy do comments like that? and how can anyone believe this guy?

At the outset I had OP down as a privileged, spoilt, arrogant, self-centred rich boy (I already had a poor opinion of him from some of his sporting antics before this happened.) A lot of what we have heard during the trial also portrays him this way; a guy who is used to having what he wants and doing whatever he please (e.g. firing guns in public.) Who would even brandish a gun in a restaurant let alone fire it? But the more I follow this and think about it, the more I am convinced that this was a tragic accident. Being an arrogant, spoiled, self centred and obnoxious prick is light-years away from being a murderer. In the absence of conclusive evidence this case will rely heavily on how OP's character is portrayed. There are very few people in this world who would be capable of firing four bullets at someone who was trying to hide from them, even under the most extreme provocation; if Nel is to prove that OP is one of those people he will need to do better than immature antics in a car, irresponsible behaviour in a restaurant and a few crusty text messages. I think we are looking at manslaughter with a suspended sentence here.

@justinneill5003

10 жыл бұрын

***** Hmmm, he shot a water melon...? Case closed!! LOL

@ezekielthemack

10 жыл бұрын

Neil Justin You sound as deluded as Oscar is. Oscar murdered his girlfriend and what you are seeing played out before your eyes, is a spoilt brat whose parents did not teach him how to take responsibility for his actions. The man's alibi is riddled with inconsistencies and now he's trying to convince the world that the police moved the duvet, the curtains and the fans. In addition, he asserts that he didn't intend to shoot at the person/intruders in the bathroom, which is utter bullshit. As I've previously this clown makes Walter Mitty look credible.

@bouncyshak

10 жыл бұрын

Neil Justin He enjoys the destruction that guns can cause to brain like matter. It's the mark of a degenerate individual. Ignore the implications all you want, and try to convince yourself that Oscar is the placid, loving, blameless victim he is portraying on the stand. The courtroom laughed out loud at his preposterous lies today and you're just eating it all up.

@3633632

10 жыл бұрын

***** NEIL JUSTIN: Why did he not shoot up his noisy washing machine when he went into combat mode the night he tweeted about? If he yelled, the washing machine would not have talked back and that would have been a prowler for sure. Shoot to kill. That's what that loser did. ROT OP

@justinneill5003

10 жыл бұрын

***** If you read my post again I said he was an arrogant, spoiled, self centred and obnoxious prick. I also said this didn't make him a murderer, and I'll stand by that comment. You may be swept away by the mood of the moment following Gerrie Nel's attempts at shock tactics and character assassination; let's see what the judge thinks...

OMW... did he just say "I'm trained to make a firearm safe before passing it to someone"... but he discharges 4 rounds into a closed door by mistake... if this were a jury trial he would be screwed I think.

all this is just a waste of time. just plead guilty and get a reasonable sentence.

Looking forward to monday! Gerri Nel will be back probing as ever.

Has anyone else noticed that Mr. Nel is the only person who properly pronounces Oscar’s family name?

i thought HAROLD LLYOD was dead, but he seems to be in the front row of the court dressed like a woman sat next to the old guy with the black earphones,,,,lol

All these incidents that OP was involved in regarding his fire arms it finally all caught up with him on the final kudo gra with the killing of Reeva . R.l.P. Dear lady.

Oscar wins the title (Most responsible man 2014)

This man is sick!! What a COWARD! Could he not use words to communicate with Reeva rather than his gun??? I hope he gets what he deserves and feels the fear and pain he inflicted on that poor girl for the rest of his pathetic life in prison. It saddens me what he did to her and he should NOT be walking around resuming his life as if Reeva's life didn't matter. May justice prevail!

Just keep digging that grave of yours Oscar. You are obviously trying to cover your tracks and i commend Adv Nel for his pursuit of the truth and giving Riva a voice. You deserve what is coming to you for murdering such a beautiful creation, taking her life. Nothing she could have said or done was worth losing her life over. Hope she haunts you every single night for the rest of your living years. This whole thing makes me so sad.

Why cant we see his face

~when GN confronts him at 21:00 with the constant "I had to...." OP actually says: "my lady, I had things to, I had training in the morning, I had plans that day"..... I forgot just how bad he was on the stand. can't imagine his true self not being exposed during his evaluation.

he was a control freak , wanted to change her completely

It's masochistic to lend your ears to Odious Pistolious.

Why did she not leave? Was the money and HIS fane maybee a way to get her struggling career on track? What he did was not right, but she had all the time in the world to leave him.

Lot of people like to judge. Op killed her that is true n he is not denying it.... regardless of what people think my opinion is that it was an accident. Or he is just a really handsome rich but stupid ass man that decided in a few minutes to kill this woman knowing his whole life n everything he had worked hard for would go to waste n knowing that he would b hurting all the families this bad..

@yukiostrachan2048

10 жыл бұрын

Wow, your whole comment had to do with what he would lose, but not what Reeva lost and the pain she went through being abused. He is a cold blooded murderer.

@Wordywithbirdy

10 жыл бұрын

Yukio Strachan how was she been abused you dont know 100% she was been abused so what gives u the right to say she was been abused

@Wordywithbirdy

10 жыл бұрын

***** he did he shouted to her to get down on the floor that someone was in the house but she never replied. Nobody screamed all that was heard by witnesses was loud crying which came OP

@Wordywithbirdy

10 жыл бұрын

***** what's so funny

@teddycat2000

10 жыл бұрын

Rachael Cotterill A lot of the witnesses said it was a female scream...

41:38 Look at the length of time it took Oscar to answer that question, obviously just made up his answer there and then, Nel should of said and what accents were these and for what show? mind you we all know what the answer would of been in that pathetic grovelling voice..."I'm not sure my lady."

i want to think it was a tragic accident, but, everything is so improbable ....the gun in the restaurant, why blame the owner? he did acknowledge he was wrong, but, he stuck in, HE shouldnt have done something so unsafe, rubbed me the wrong way we now have a dead girl thats future was so promising, her family/his, all the friends, ....ppl everywhere and why?? for what reason???

You are replying to her - and immediately you are blaming her. 100% pure NPD. Text book!

@nickharris9761

10 жыл бұрын

Sorry what does NPD stand for ?

@georgiegirlize

10 жыл бұрын

Nick Harris Narcissistic personality disorder. Total void of real empathy for anyone other than self. Shame in early childhood, shallow sense of self. Cannot stand criticism, but can dole it out! Cannot get close to anyone, so blows hot and cold in intimate relationships. Uses people as 'supply'. Emotional abuse to those close, and really nice to everyone else. Wears a mask in public. Charms all those who are not close. Different behind closed doors.

I'll never get used to witnesse answering too big, brawny lawyer's questions and adding 'Mylady' ;)P !