I had a HypeGTR7 that I unfortunately had to sell for financial emergency reasons, but I absolutely miss it. They’re not for everyone but if you’re wanting that niche, they’re amazing instruments.

So not a guitar to play cowboy chords on.

@TopShelfGear

2 ай бұрын

Not exactly the best guitar to bring out to strum by the campfire 😂

@randyleonard4126

Ай бұрын

YEE HAW🤠🤠 57 Tele just entered the chat..😂😂

I tried an Ormsby in a music store recently and was very surprised by how chunky the neck was, definitely a turn off

@TopShelfGear

2 ай бұрын

Yea! It's a bummer alright...

@joshuasalgado4694

Ай бұрын

Yeah, you’d think with them trying to go the ergonomic route with the fanned fret, must have been a weird surprise. They missed the mark on those additional ergonomics that would make the guitar more comfortable to play. Glad I stayed away from these. Happy with my Vola Michael Keene sig👌🏻

@jackbootshamangaming4541

Ай бұрын

@@joshuasalgado4694 Kiesel doesn't have anywhere near as thin of necks as Ormsby does with their 18mm D

I pre ordered one of their seven string Genesis models and I’m pretty excited for it. It has a much shallower fan with a 25.5-26.25 with a hipshot tremolo. I also tend to prefer bigger necks since I have giant hands so hopefully I get along with the profile.

@TopShelfGear

2 ай бұрын

Nice! Hope that works out well!

I feel exactly the same about the points you have made. The typical fan on these multiscale guitars is just too big, it made riffing and chords around the first few frets much harder/very annoying to deal with, which completely overshadows the benefits of the multiscale concept imo. I also was not too hyped (pun intended) on the neck shape either, as I much rather prefer the thin necks of ibanez guitars or modern jacksons. So I just recently sold mine too (SX GTR Shark from run 7) and luckily found a local distributor who still had one of these 26.5" Ormsby DC GTR 6 signature guitars with no fanned frets and a thinner D-shaped neck. It is actually supposed to arrive today, so I am stoked to find out if this is the solution to the things I disliked about my previous ormsby, as the guitar was really great aside from the points mentioned.

@TopShelfGear

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking out the video! Glad you could share a similar experience. A huge issue with that extreme fan fret indeed. Lots of room for improvements! Hope that new one works better! Comment on here let me know how it goes thx

@Niklas13480

2 ай бұрын

@@TopShelfGear you are welcome dude. and I am happy to report that my new Ormsby DC GTR 6 is way better than I ever would have imagined. the build quality is top notch (I couldn't find any flaws yet), the neck is very thin (very close to the ibanez neck), the body contours are comfortable, it's light weight and sounds absolutely huge. as soon as I opened the case I had a big smile on my face. It definitely is a keeper. If you get the chance to try one of these, please do so! I am sure you will not regret it. if I am not mistaken they are actually relaunching the run for this model (but with a very slight fan). I don't have insta, but I could send you some photos if there is some other way to get in touch.

@TopShelfGear

2 ай бұрын

@@Niklas13480 that's awesome! so happy for you bro!

I have two Ormsbys one 8 String Dragon Burst run 5 (2018) or basically similar like you have described in the video. And the second one Hype GTR Shark (2023/2024). Besides that I actually love the older version, the company have changed few things over the years. The neck is thinner, with improved access. The body is slightly lighter (semi hollow) and the input jack is recessed in the body. I think the pickups are totally fine as well, but I have built in Bare Knuckle Painkiller into the older one. The pickup did not change much and I think strings thickness and brand will have bigger impact. By the way I have small hands for a guy and short fingers (but i dont mind the scale length at all.)

I sold my older run Hypes exactly for those reasons. I have a couple of newer ones now, and it's all solved! The neck profile(they call it the "revised d shapes") feels more in line with what you'd expect from a Jackson or something.

@TopShelfGear

Ай бұрын

Great to know!

I agree completely about having only a couple of compromises max. I recently sold, what I thought was my absolute dream Ibanez, an RGD3127 because of the same neck issue you had. The neck was as thin as any other neck I've played, but it just had too much shoulder and made it feel thick. That paired with the right arm contour, which felt like I had to force my forearm to stay in the right spot. Anyways, always look forward to an upload from you, you seem to share a lot of the sentiments I look for in a guitar. Cheers!

@TopShelfGear

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I'm glad these points were well received. There's so many "reviews and demos" on guitars which showcase the sound but no one seems to talk about thr actual feel and playability of the actual guitar. For me if I'm already frustrated with the lack of ergonomics, what good is the sound when plugged in? Lol

@jonathanshaver3001

2 ай бұрын

@@TopShelfGear absolutely, and that's a HUGE reason I've started watching your videos. Most people list off the specs and point out the fit and finish and don't go into the feel so much. Your channel is a breath of fresh air, especially because you cover instruments I don't usually see and am interested in, such as that gorgeous OD. The biggest realization I've had recently is just how much of a difference ergonomics make. That Ibanez sounded phenomenal but just didn't feel the way I wanted. My friend was calling me crazy because I sold that guitar but kept my GOC which feels perfect for me.

I have an Ormsby TX 7 string. My gripe is I can't change the pickups to what I want because of its baseplate/configuration and I'm really not big fan of their pickups. I agree it has quite a big chunky D-shaped neck and it's kind of difficult to play chords and fast riffs especially in the first few frets.

@TopShelfGear

Ай бұрын

Yup, well said. Unfortunately in this case the negatives out weight the positives. Coop brand overall just wish they would make some more revisions

Love the insight you gave on ormsby guitars. Definitely a lot of stuff i didn't know about

@TopShelfGear

Ай бұрын

Yes! was a very cool brand overall. No complaints as far as quality or workmanship just some design flaws that made them very awkward to play. Hope to see some improvements in the future.

necks shoulders have been thinner since run8-9 guitars(released 5 yrs ago), same as the output jack. As for the 1st fret angle, that comes to playing technique. Reason why you are touching the nut with your hand is because you are approaching the guitar like a standard scale, in which results in a much narrow area for the fret (if you see the fretboard like a paralel fret) reason why you touch the nut. With a multiscale you need to angle your hand to follow the fan. Think about it this way, do an F bar chord on the 1st fret, your index finger should be angled to follow the fret (same goes with power chords) this will help to reduce the angle break on your wrist and will force you to bring your elbow closer to your body which help to reduce fatigue too. It might be hard to adapt, but once you do its an easy and comfortable guitar to play. Give it a try on your other multiscales

@TopShelfGear

Ай бұрын

thanks for your input, good to know! I get what you mean with the supination of the wrist, it can feel a little unnatural but makes sense to follow that fan shape. For me this works on less extreme fans like my other guitars, but just felt like the 25.5-27.5 was a little too extreme for my taste. Overall great guitars though, I would consider revisiting them in the future.

Problem for me was the pickup was too far away from the bridge, and ended up sounding too flubby and a lack of definition. Tried different pickups too... same result. Sold it.

@TopShelfGear

Ай бұрын

Yup I can understand that. Just didn't quite work out. Bummer 😔

The 25.5-27.8 on the 7 string is wider than most 8 strings! I think the sweet spot is a 1.5” spread.

@TopShelfGear

12 күн бұрын

Yeah in many cases its just overkill going that wide. I like 25.5-26.5 myself or 25.5-27" tops

Ah yes, the Blackmachine PDF passed around on forums to anyone who'd dare question their superiority. It was a great example of WOM marketing done right. Didn't make the guitars magical super special. They were/are just well built electric guitars. But the whole mythology around them was very entertaining. Ormsby... well, if there was any way to DM you I'd tell you a nice story about them.

@TopShelfGear

2 ай бұрын

Would love to hear it! IG @savagepandaprojects (my other yt channel)

@bearmadden1776

2 ай бұрын

@@TopShelfGear Dmed you :)

@BlazinLow305

Ай бұрын

I'd be very curious to hear it as well!

I personally would love to have an Ormsby, SPECIFICLY because of that aggressive fan. If I was to have it in drop F or E on the 7 string models, then the scale would allow for thinner strings and more ease of playing. And as far as "catching" your hand on the nut... it's not hard to file down or get used to. I deal with it on my basses and it has never been a problem for me personally, although some people are picky I guess... I agree with the neck profile and forearm contour. I personally like to have a much larger forearm contour like a MM JP6. The bevel reminds me of my Dingwall basses (NG3s).

@TopShelfGear

Ай бұрын

totally fair points indeed. The 27.5" on the low end feels nice. My OD is setup where the bone nut is actually sitting at an angle so doesn't stick up as much on the treble side. (Still less extreme of a fan though) Often comes to personal preference! :)

I have a Goliath which I bought in January, it's one they brough to NAMM with them, it was the first guitar I ever spent over a grand on(least at once), I've now bought 3 other Ormsby's, a Demanufacture, Copper Top Hype GTR, and a Headless V, all 7 strings.

@TopShelfGear

Ай бұрын

Glad they worked for you!

@jackbootshamangaming4541

25 күн бұрын

@@TopShelfGear I'm sad they didn't work for you. My first Hype GTR is finally on the way, it's the Copper Top, but I also ordered one of the Evertune 7 Hype GTIs, the Azure one. I would have gone for one of the more unique looking ones, like you got, but they only had 6 string ones as they were last run(pretty sure) and mostly out. I really wanted the Evertune and to keep the fanfrets, so I went with the Hype GTI. Although I think you'd maybe like the new Hype GTIs and such that are Standard Scales. I don't have big hands, but I REALLY have come to love fanfrets, although I've yet to play a multiscale that's got a headstock, my copper shipped out just today. I'll have to see then. The necks I love myself, I really can't wait to try the 18mm consistent D shape that is on the demanufacture. I normally liked C necks before Ormsby, and I still stick to C outside them, but I love the Ds from them myself. They don't feel overly chunky to me. The output jacks on mine are all great, they've been relocated as you said. They're all recessed and out of the way, least the models I have so far. I know I sound like a shill, but they've really impressed me so much. I got a Strandberg this year as well, and I love the thing, but I prefer the Goliath still.

Whoa, that output jack. That neck profile. Those fanned frets. That block of wood backing.Thank you very much, you saved me time & money. I hope Ormsby sees this review; I'm sure they want to evolve, and this can help them improve. Good Job.

@timothybarrett5794

Ай бұрын

they have actually changed their necks a lot their necks are definitely thinner than my Kiesel with thinner neck profiles

that headstock looks sick, but anybody whos owned a bc rich with the warlock headstock knows the ornate tips are the first to chip when you bump it into stuff.

@TopShelfGear

2 ай бұрын

This is true! At least these aren't as wide and heavy as something like the BC rich. Still gotta be careful tho

6 string with that much scale difference is kinda crazy but tbh it serves what most Ormsby players needs

@TopShelfGear

26 күн бұрын

Yeah very extreme fan but does feel nice especially on the low end

I do that too. Like, if you're a custom builder and you offer a 6-string model with a Floyd but you don't offer a 7-string with a Floyd? You're not getting my money. So silly.

I own 2 Kiesel cm6 guitars and I prefer the ormsby 2 inch of fan wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more the CM6 haven't been played in over a year while I have 3 different Ormsby guitars I play daily 25.5-26.5 sounds weak and floppy compared to 25.5- 27-5 personally especially in drop c what I play in

@TopShelfGear

Ай бұрын

I'm kinda surprised the 25.5-26.5 would feel floppy in drop C. Seems like most bands over the years would just use normal 25.5" scale guitars for drop c. That 27.5" does feel nice when going super low. For me the nut angle was just too extreme. All preference though!

@timothybarrett5794

Ай бұрын

@@TopShelfGear well I do use 432hz so its actually closer to b than c

@efeefendioglu2584

26 күн бұрын

​@@TopShelfGearit might be about string gauges as well so if he's going for a thinner c string it makes sense for him to need longer scale