Probably the saddest part about Christmas in the Philippines is that, despite being a HUMONGOUS deal, real/organic trees are exceedingly rare. I don't think I've ever even personally seen one. I've always found the whole "getting a tree" thing in cartoons and sitcoms funny, because tradition here is just taking the plastic tree out of its box.

@leahcimwerdna5209

Жыл бұрын

It's somewhat similar here, just get it at home Depot or a Christmas tree lot. When we were younger there was a spot and I'ma sure there are probably a few left, where you could go cut it down yourself

@kellysouter4381

Жыл бұрын

Same in Australia

@asiag6863

Жыл бұрын

It is the same where my husband comes from Where I live ppl have tree farms and we go every year and cut a tree fresh from the farm. When I was a child my dad would take us into the woods to choose a wild tree. There is something very special about a live tree. And the children adore going out to select a tree from the farm. Its like a little forest full of nearly perfect trees

@leahcimwerdna5209

Жыл бұрын

@@LE64SAM-IAM that Doug fir smell

@sebastiangrandis545

Жыл бұрын

My german mother insisted to get a real christmas tree while we were living in Rome, and hoped to nurtured it through the hot and dry roman sommer. She never managed...

I used to work at a Pennsylvania Dutch history museum. They had the first use of Christmas trees in the new world. The trees were hung upside down from the rafters. Cookies were hung on the trees to keep them away from mice. I think this is an old German tradition that had nothing to do with religion, people and animals were stuck indoors together because of weather, trees smell good and smell flows downward.

My family has always dressed the Yule tree with fruit, nuts, cookies, and lard balls encrusted with seeds. Candles are lit on Solstice night on the branches. The tree is taken outside the next day, and left for the birds and animals to eat from. My Grandmother said that was why the Victorian ornaments were made in the shapes of fruit. Thanks for your hard work and finding great images. You have a new subscriber, and I wish you a Good Yule.🖤🇨🇦

@pittsburghatecore

Жыл бұрын

Sounds wonderful.

@ritagreene8376

Жыл бұрын

I don't do this but I sure like the thought of it.

@m_d1905

Жыл бұрын

What a beautiful tradition. I wonder if it had to do with fruit on "paradise trees" that were popular in Germany in medieval times? Or more likely lots of cultural input from many places to make the current tradition.

@tamarrajames3590

Жыл бұрын

@@m_d1905 I think it was a kind of sympathetic magic…showing the other trees what is wanted of them at the darkest point of the year, and luring the Sun back. It also is a sacrifice of food at the leanest time of the year.🖤🇨🇦

Serbians bring a small oak inside at Christmas. Small oaks still have their dead leaves held. It’s an interesting remaining tradition

In the alpine reagion in central Europe, e.g. in Styria (part of Austria) it was also quite common in rural peasant homes to hang the christmastree over the table of the main room, or hang it the corner corner of a room which was decorated with a crucifix and other devotional objects. Sometimes these trees would hang upside down, sometimes they would hang right side up. This was probably done because of praticality reasons, to save space in small rooms where people needed the space to also live an work in it. But they still didn't want to go without the holy tree. Some tradional restaurants in this region still decorate their dining room with a hanging chrismastree give it more an older drational flair. And even the citiy center of Graz (the captial of Styria) is decorated at Christmas time with up side down hanging trees, to celebrate this lokal tradition. I think this tradition of small hanging trees in small rural homes could be the missing link between general decoration of homes with green and evergreen branches and fully established chrismas trees like we know them today. I would suggest that Europen people decorated their homes for thousends of years with greenery at this holy time of the year. In Germany this tradion survived the Christianisation. And whoever could eford it would use a hole tree instead of single branches, and other might go a middle way and gang small trees in there homes, and more rich people (like order of the knights mentioned in this video) would have a hall, big enough to put a full big tree in it.

@leahcimwerdna5209

Жыл бұрын

Probably keeps it greener longer and more fresh since the water isn't being pulled out by gravity

@leahcimwerdna5209

Жыл бұрын

@João Dani lol

@Timetravel1111

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this!Did you say they hung the crucifix upside down? Noo that can’t be correct?! Haha

@ronalddececco4662

Жыл бұрын

THE REASON WHY THESE WERE HUNG OFF THE FLOOR AND UP HIGH WAS ALSO TO KEEP MICE FROM CRAWLING UP THEM AND EATING THE COOKIES OR CANDY HUNG ON THEM.

I was raised in a Lutheran family in the USA with German heritage that Martin Luther first introduced it to his family. Nice to learn about other origin stories.

@tobiasgriffin

Жыл бұрын

It not christian it e evil read the bible

@angelarios8305

6 ай бұрын

@@tobiasgriffin Obviously your reading comprehension is off. Even the bible states the tradition is harmless, just not useful.

Hello Kevin. I just discovered your channel - watching your documentary on Hermes. I'll have to watch it again. There is so much to understand about Greek mythology.

Thank you for the video. I learned more than I knew about historical and cultural traditions of the origin of the Christmas tree. I agree the practice has more ancient origins that were combined and adapted to the holiday as the celebration changed over the centuries. Enjoy the holidays to you and yours. Look forward to your next posting.

💚🏜 love these solid historical informative shows 🎄

There I was, happened to be watching the clock teach the 18:33. On the dot, upload notification. Nice one! Always interested in your efforts. I have also had a cold. Just getting better, sláinte.

Very well presented! Thank you! ❤

Second video of yours i watched. I subed after the first. Love your work in those two, going ahead for the rest. Thanks for your work and hello from switzerland

Wonderful video! 🎄🎄🎄Merry Christmas!

Thank you and Merry Christmas, God bless and have a wonderful new year.

Thanks for the video, I can't think of a Christmas without a tree. It's kind of goes together with the season.

Your videos are amazing. Love it.

I’m so ready to make this my thanksgiving dinner discussion with the family

The following is my reply to a KZread video titled "The Truth About Christmas - The Start of the Tribulation." The video was posted on KZread on Sunday December 11, 2022. Here's my reply: The Canaanites were celebrating the winter solstice ritual in honor of Baal 5000 years ago. In each household they had a tree (phallus symbol), a wreath (vagina symbol), and they exchanged gifts. Many centuries later the ancient Romans were celebrating the ritual in honor of Saturn and doing it the same way (tree, wreaths, gifts). Their name for the ritual was 'Saturnalia.' In around 300 A.D. the Catholic Church priestclass renamed the ritual 'Christmas.' They did it as an evangelistic ploy to attract people away from Saturn worship. The majority of the Roman people were Saturn worshipers. The temple of Saturn was the biggest building in ancient Rome. The temple priests were very wealthy and the Catholic priestclass wanted to get in on the cash cow. The spirit behind Christmas is Saturn (Old Testament Baal). The Apostle John called him 'The Spirit of Antichrist" (counterfeit Christ who seeks to mimic the Holy Spirit). He is the principality of idolatry, plus he is the spirit of top-down-control (seeks to manifest through men-at-the-top, e.g. leaders of nations, governments, religions, corporations, military, academia, medicine, media, finance, etc.). The ancient Babylonians and Assyrians called him Bel. The ancient Greeks called him Cronos. The ancient Hindus called him Indra. Same spirit going by different names in different cultures and in different time periods. It was very important to him to implement the winter solstice ritual as he understood that when a person celebrates (honors) the ritual it gives him automatic rights of access to their human spirit (conscience, intuition, and the ability to commune with the Holy Spirit) and to have ongoing influence on their spiritual life (the kingdom of darkness is all about control). Jesus was born on September 11, 3 B.C. by the Julian Calendar. Bethlehem is 2500 ft. above sea level so that in December there would've been no grass for the sheep to eat (see Luke 2:8-20 in the King James Version). Jesus had nothing to do with Christmas (never did and never will). You can verify this information online, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to find information that goes against the system narrative (propaganda/brainwash).

@daniellekane8203

5 ай бұрын

THIS!!!! And after I continued to feel convicted when I celebrated, Father had me look into it. 😮 Yikes! The idolatry is something else. He asked us not to learn the ways of the nations and worship Him in those ways. He also asked us not to cut a tree down, stand it up in our homes then decorate it in silver and gold. Boy, if that ain't a christmas tree then idk what is. Just because people took pagan rituals and threw a Jesus sticker on it, doesn't make it a Christian thing to do. My home has been celebrating His set apart Holy feasts for a few years now and it's been a beautiful journey with Him. ❤

Love this! I am going to rewatch so I can share with my husband.

While it’s possible that the Christmas tree has a very ancient pagan origin, I think you overlook the theory of it coming from medieval Christian mystery plays, one of the most popular around Christmas showing the story of Adam and Eve. There are old depictions of a tree bearing both red apples (for the fruit of knowledge of good and evil) and communion wafer (for the fruit of life). Also note that in Germany, sweet unconsacrated wafers (otherwise similar to communion wafers) are a traditional treat for children. So in my opinion it’s a very likely origin for the actual Christmas tree. Of course it only became so popular because people and especially Germans have an ancient pagan reverence for trees, but as you say there is absolutely no trace or mention of the Christmas tree itself in Ancient times.

@gungho1284

Жыл бұрын

For pagan celebrations, sure. But for the Christian holiday, it comes from the Paradise plays to commemorate the feast day of Adam and Eve in the Middle Ages on Dec 24th. The red balls represent the fruit and the popularity to bring them into homes came from German Catholics. It later spread around the world.

My grandfather died on Christmas Eve and I sang o Christmas tree in German for him when I was a child just before he died.

I enjoyed this very much. Thank you.

The hungarians call Christmas "Karácsony". This comes from very old times, long before Christ. At the shortest/darkest day, the hungarians took out falcons and flew them up to the sky to bring down light to Earth. This type of falcons called "kerecsen" in hungarian language. These falcons was taken out on a special multi-branched tree. That's why it is called Karácsony and this is where the Christmass Tree "Karácsony fa" came from in Hungary. Later on the tree was decorated by germans really.

@krisu6043

5 ай бұрын

Christmas before Christ??? How does this even make sense ?

@jayrro

2 ай бұрын

It makes sense, because I'm many languages name for Christmas has nothing to do with Christ. For example late Slavic and Hungarian, Bulgarian or Romanian word for holidays in that time is Kračun or some derivation of that word. (Karácsony, Craciun...) It was holiday of the shortest day and longest night. It was holiday when people celebrated new year - new beginning of the cycle. From that point days are becoming longer. The sun is shining more and shortly nature will wake up. There was also tradition of decorating outside trees with bands and ribbons.

9:01 that Door 🚪 it’s also red and green woven! How amazing craftsmanship!!!

I think a common thing when pagans debunk the idea of Christmas traditions being pagan is that they consider paganism to only be the ancient form in which it existed. I am and fully understand Indo-European paganism, its hierarchy, its lines, but one thing ignored by many so-called pagans is the literal foundation of the Indo-European worldview which is animism. Animism survived, we can see blatant examples of it as far as into the 19th and early 20th centuries. I have a collection of examples of obvious animistic practices in Scotland as far as the 1930s for example. Bringing trees into your home may not have been a practice of ancient Germanic pagans, but it also wasn't a Christian practice. There is nothing at all Christian about bringing a tree into your house for winter to decorate with sweets and ornaments, other than the fact it is done at/for Christmas. This applies to many Christmas traditions which just blatantly are neither Christian nor completely modern inventions, they evidently descend from animistic traditions that formed sometimes after the official conversion dates. Santa Claus may not be descended from Odin, I agree. British Father Christmas also doesn't descend from Odin, he is however a blatantly more animistic ideal of a Christmas figure. One who brings a jolly heart to the feasts of Christmas, one who IS Christmas, an almost Christmas deity. I think as Indo-European and folkist pagans we would really benefit a lot by being more open to animism and recognising that not every tradition has to go back to the years before 1066 to be valid. All traditions had an origin, and I think it would do us the world of good to adopt these more recent animistic practices of our ancestors whilst giving them new life by forming new myths that tie them into our respective cosmologies and worlds.

@YorkyOne

6 ай бұрын

'Obvious Scottish animist pratices' - such as?

Thank you for the great job

Apart from the informative video, I would like to thank you for using images of my beautiful town of Guimarães ❤

Interesting and wonderful video.

This is very well made, so informative. I am sure I'll enjoy many more of your videos. Just an fyi: some of the pictures you used for the blackhead dress-ups were actually the three wise men, who travelled to Jesus' place of birth, the blackfaced one usually is Caspar.

Boniface being cut down in return is one wholesome karma story.

I'm not that far into the video but I'm super excited for this! Also I'm sorry you have a cold I will pray to the Sun that you get better!

I love a good ol' Yule log burning in the fireplace every X-Mass as we all kneel down giving thanks...

If the tradition potentially came from Egypt, there could be correlations with the pagan middle eastern tradition of hanging prayers and wishes on sacred “good luck” trees. There are mentions in Hadith of Muhammad ﷺ forbidding his followers from tying symbolic decorations on a tree for superstitious reasons

Could you make more videos in the future that include Slavic myths, traditions, etc?

Love it!!!

Thank You So Much. We must dispel folk legends and myths, both Christian and "Pagan", of the origin of the Christmas Tree, especially if they are not supported by archaeological or historical records. When tracing the origins of folk traditions and pagan practices, what matters is what we can prove, not what is popular belief.

when my grandmother was young, in the 1920s on the Bayou, she told me that they had stockings on the windowsill and the best gift she got was an apple.

This is very interesting

There's a verse in the Bible that refers to the Xmas tree it's in Jeremiah and its linked to the birth of tammuz which is Dec 25th. Tammuz Nimrod Ishtar. This man made tradition has been around since around 2500 bc at least

@YorkyOne

6 ай бұрын

Wrong interpretation of Jeremiah.

@anthonykaiser974

2 ай бұрын

Jeremiah 10 is about CARVED IDOLS.

How nice and joyful... Alas, the custom of the x-mas tree has amore simple and common explanation. In the old days un the north, before christianity, houses didn't have stone floor the floor in the houses was bare earth. In mid winter-fest people used to clean the house and on the floor the spread brunches of Pine it was clean and had a good smell, the top of the tree they cut and placed in the middle of the only Main Room and danced around it. When Christianity arrived in the North, it simply adopted this custom...!!!

Love the serious research put into this video. Only issue I have is the slightly biased connotation that the evergreen Christmas tree is associated with some sort of oppressive spread of Christianity. Otherwise, I enjoyed the piece very much.

I want to bring to your attention that it was a Scandinavian and German costume , land before the time you mention, to set fire on whole pine forest on the end of the old year to call back the sun! Maybe this is relict of this custom; pine tree’s, fire

its an ancient turkic tradition,protoislamic,shamanistic beliefs,wishes were made and pieces of cloth were bound on trees,still praticed in parts of tibet,nepal,mongolia as well,i think...

"Foreign Merchants" with a crest like that, I'd say you meant slave traders.

Luther invented the Christmas tree. He saw an optical illusion caused by stars and was inspired to try to decorate a tree with lights. Until relatively recently, only Protestants in Germany had Christmas trees, Catholics had Nativity sets. Queen Victoria brought Christmas trees to the UK (her family was German), then later they came to the US. But at one time, English and Americans didn't have them.

@gwiz6278

Жыл бұрын

Nope. It's a pagan tradition for yule, which is a pagan holiday.

@YorkyOne

6 ай бұрын

​@@gwiz6278 Nope, earliest verifiable reference to a Christmas tree is from 1520's Germany. Nothing to do with Yule.

That's interesting. I have a grandson named Thor. Thank you for sharing and Merry Christmas. 🎄🎄🎄 I still teach my children and grandchildren the real meaning of Christmas. We're celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. I'm gonna share your video.👍😊

I think the tree is Iggrasil the world tree, some translate Iggrasil as needle ash,, symbol of everlasting life. Probably a Yew tree, still found in many church yards in England. Most of the days of the week are named after Norse deities showing great Norse influence. Mistletoe is probably Druidical, and of course, the Holly king, king of winter. Like churches built on pagan places, these things have been appropriated

The "pagan origin" of the Christmas Tree doesnt pass the smell test.

This sure clears things up 😂

Would be wonderful if the actual geographic location of the House of the Black Heads was mentioned in the this video... tiny neighbor country south from Estonia...

@tymanung6382

Жыл бұрын

Last to convert/defect to Christianity in Europe were 3 Baltic crusade targets/ victims. last of those were Lithuanians in 1300s.

Krampus, next?

@John-rw9vm

Жыл бұрын

That would be great. I havnt found much information on it

Get well soon.

I have heard and read that many of the traditions around Christmas involve the amanita muscaria mushroom which is sacred in many cultures and grows underneath evergreen trees, like brightly colored presents under the tree. The mushrooms are bright red and white, like Santa's clothes, and apparently reindeer love to eat them. The mushrooms are also psychedelic, which may have led to the idea of flying reindeer. After harvesting, the amanita muscaria ("fly agaric") are hung inside by the fire to dry, "hung by the chimney with care." Thanks for your content, always very enjoyable. Peace 🙏.

@tymanung6382

Жыл бұрын

See, for example, the book Psychedelic Santa.

it's really weird to me that people make floral arranging is "pagan". No, it's human. Humans like to decorate their homes with plants.

@tymanung6382

Жыл бұрын

Floral arrangements in E Asia, or Hawaaian leis are pre-- or non-- Christian.

@DruidicOrthodoxTempleofAmerica

4 ай бұрын

The entire world is founded on paganism. Christianity in Europe is mostly pagan, especially the orthodox church

"in short, it's Christian fan fiction" Haha, based.

Hi, just wondering, but, didn't you used to have an entire playlist for Celtic Mythology? Maybe I'm misremembering but if I'm not it seems to have disappeared.

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There is mention of bringing trees home for decoration and how that's vanity in the Bible. We don't know how old the tradition is. It could be very old. It may have evolved in what we have now but probably dates if not thousands of years at least few hundreds of years.

@m_d1905

Жыл бұрын

The verses you mentioned predates Christianity by many hundreds of years. It's specific to making idols of wood/trees and adorning them with gold and silver. Not specific to a Christmas tree.

@aspirativemusicproduction2135

Жыл бұрын

@m_d1905 And I have a tree with silver and gold balls right now. To be honest I just use Christmas as an excuse to decorate my trees 🤫 From the view of the writers it may look like some pagan practice but who knows. People probably just like decoration. Is Barbie doll an idol? Someone today may write "people worship Barbie. They talk to it as if it's real person. They dress it and admire it's beauty." 🤣🤣🤣 Thousand years from now all people are going to know is what's written. People worshiped Barbie dolls. 🤣🤣🤣

Actually, druids are only associated with the Celts. It is not known whether the pagan priests of the Germanic people even had a specific designation. Otherwise a very informative and interesting video indeed.

@bluebird3281

5 ай бұрын

He mentioned that, it was the lady who wrote the account of the saint who was a bit confused on the point.

You are missing a piece of the history. Research the Feast of Adam and Eve and Paradise Tree in German Mystery/Morality Plays dating back possibly as far as the 12th Century.

The video claims they have not found any sources for the source of the tree. The historian behind this video should check out a book called The Golden Bough. The Golden Bough is a true academic look at the customs and traditions surrounding the winter solstice festivals. It has and cites works from antiquities. Knowing that many true scholars have looked into this topic, I question the academic credentials of the video maker.

@YorkyOne

6 ай бұрын

Nobody takes 'The Golden Bough' seriously any more.

@wizard1399

6 ай бұрын

@@YorkyOne true scholars do!

What is your thoughts on the notion that Marin Luther introduced the Christmas tree. I cannot find any legitimate documentation of this and after your mention of St Boniiface. Do you or anybody have any sources to verify the Martin Luther rumour of this? Thank you.(Martin Luther the reformer)

@tymanung6382

Жыл бұрын

Researchers say that Martin Luther introduced in door tree + candles, not tree in itself, which was much more ancient.

Im guessing blackheads is a conection to saturnian devotees.

My understanding is it's very clear the pine tree and it's usage around the solstice originated with the Germanic people

The Christmas tree is a representation of the first sun (Saturn) and its plasma connection to earth (Cardona, Talbott and Cochrane). The image at the beginning of the video with the star on top of the triangular lights are directly related to that astronomical event. Also, the pine cone has significance that is unknown to us. Pine cones are important symbols in a variety of mythical traditions.

@windrock

Жыл бұрын

Pine cone shape is a symbolic reference also for pineal gland.

Could they have started as a mere practical idea? I mean, it's very counter intuitive and futile to keep a tree indoors, unless you have a good reason to do sp. Cutting a resinous tree to keep at your house over the winter, where it will have a chance to beging to dry and provide you with emergency fuel should the cold last longer than expected, seems like a good idea. I mean, going for pine and fir as choice fuel when you run out of dry firewood seems a no-brainer, so the next logical step is to keep those trees and pinecones close instead of having to go out in the snow to find them. Which is consistent with other traditions of magical figures gifting charcoal and coal to households during that time of the year. I'd like to imagine people were likely to adorn them as a way of making offerings and mark the passage of time, probably burning them at the beginning of spring to celebrate the end of the cold season, or turning them into maypoles. And then, as humans are prone to do, they likely started to put candles and lights on them at the beginning of the season as to ward off the winter cold.

Now do the Festivus Pole

@milliesecond102

Жыл бұрын

Circa 1990s - Seinfeld. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

From the Sacred Goddess Groves surrounding temples lit with fae

@STho205

Жыл бұрын

Written down when, excavated scrolls found where, held in what museum or archive?

The story of Saint Boniface likening the evergreen to God is interesting in light of Hosea 14:8, where the Lord states "I am like a green fir tree."

Apparently, tree decoration was part of widespread Euro,Mid E., N Africa, broad culture, or at least trade, area.

9:46 yes pine 🌲 is fresh and good for health and was burned and used in essential oils. In winter especially-old folk ways aka pagan.

@gwiz6278

Жыл бұрын

All evergreens have medicinal uses but they didn't have essential oils back then lol. You can thank science for those.

Oh. Just when I commented that I wanted a video about the tree traditions, KZread finds one for me. The algorithm is reading my comments again…

Well also a lot of people don't know that the Baltics was made up of Germanic tribes that migrated to that region. So it's kind of strange or funny that the Teutonic order made up by German Knights was fighting kind of their own people in a way.

@Bella-ut8iu

Жыл бұрын

You mean butchering

@totallydead5908

Жыл бұрын

Latvians and Estonians are German?

@-RONNIE

Жыл бұрын

@@totallydead5908 I know that's what I said the Germanic tribes migrated to the Baltics. Also to Scandinavia that's how Vikings came to be & same how they traveled to Britain & became Anglo-Saxons

@totallydead5908

Жыл бұрын

@@-RONNIE no the Germans lived in the Baltics since the Livonian order

@-RONNIE

Жыл бұрын

@@totallydead5908 I know and I completely agree with you but they all came from and migrated from Germanic tribes that's all I'm saying. It's very nice to have people with some form of intelligence thank you for the conversation. I celebrate Geimhreadh but I hope you and your family have a good holiday 🥃 Sláinte

Yalda?

How would you contest the charges that the Christmas tree has Lutheran origins, or origins from the so-called "Paradise Trees" that were set up for plays on December 24, to commemorate the story of Adam & Eve, and were decorated with apples to that end? Great video!

@ironmikehallowween

Жыл бұрын

Martin Luther addressed the issue of the decorated tree, as many called it a pagan symbol, therefore the tradition of what we now call a Christmas tree, was commonly practiced. PS: It could very well be the case however, that the reason we still have a Christmas tree, is because of his acceptance of it, and why it was heavily promoted by Germanic peoples.

The earliest mention of decorating trees is the Bible, Jeremiah Verses 3 and 4. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and gold; They fasten it with nails and hammers so that it will not totter. And it is pagans that do this.

dead tree - symbol of life

So what does it have to do with Jesus being born not on dec 25th. If it's holy Roman that's not good.

“Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not.” (Jeremiah 10:2-5) The Christmas tree is at least 600 bc since that is when the book of jerimiah was written. And it's very much part of heathen worship as noted. 😉 I have seen where people argue this verse is pagans using trees to create idols of their gods. But its painfully obvious that a Christmas tree has been described

Here is a much earlier account of the worshiping of a tree....." Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. Jer 10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. Jer 10:6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might. Jer 10:7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee. Jer 10:8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities." Shalom.

Paagan?

I think all this goes back to ancient Babylon as do many things

sprig of acacia goes back to ancient Egypt. The circle of life-wreath.

I thought pagan was pronounced like "paygan". I've never heard it said like this guy before.

I can tell you the story of the christmass tree if you like.

So is Christmas Pagan?

@m.j.vazquez4720

5 ай бұрын

no

The Christmas tree origin in Babylon and worshipped as a deity.

@happyappy19931

5 ай бұрын

Wonder how many people really worship their Christmas tree though. Some people just put it up for fun & beauty? 🤷🏼‍♀️

I wuvs twees! 🤔🥰🤗🇨🇦💖🌲🌳🌴

Jeremiah 10:1-5

Christmas Tree was invented to destroy thors ritual oak tree by St. BONIFACE. the Christmas Tree represents Jesus as the Tree of the Life. The ornaments represent the fruits of the tree of life.

It’s very sad how the church forced people away from the ancient pagan religion but to this very day use pagan symbols during Christmas.

@tiredoftheworld4834

Жыл бұрын

More like Catholicism. The puritans were so annoyed with Catholicism and Catholic traditions that they banned every pagan symbol from the supposedly “Christian” church

@angelarios8305

6 ай бұрын

@@tiredoftheworld4834 The puritans were a miserable lot, who held themselves above others as "chosen" no different than any other cult that sprung from the root of a religion that worshipped a patriarchal war god (Yahweh). As they themselves were mercilessly persecuted by the church of England, so did they enforce their cruel injustice on others in the new world.

I also find it interesting that the Bible identifies the Christmas tree as a heathen tradition that should be avoided: Jeremiah 10:1-5 10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Jeremiah chapter 10

How come you cant pronounce pagan?

THE first reference to a "Christmas" tree comes from the Middle East, predates Christ by a millennium & can be found in the Bible in Jeremiah 10:3-4

So Germans did occupy the whole world 🎉🎉🎉 merry Christmas 🎄

PO-SAY-EE-DAWN. otherwise you make him German instead of Greek!

The great tradition. And those of us who have kept the old ornaments of our ancestors. And the nativity under the tree. Or the little lit up village. The smell of the pine. The presents around the tree on Christmas morning. All fun to think reminiscing. But then lets get real. Finding that perfectly shaped tree only to get it home and discover the trunk is crooked. Or the tree gets too dry and needles are everywhere. And the god awful mess taking the damn tree out to the road. And don't get me started on puting together the artificial tree...ya...thanks Germany! 😜

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How is the narrator mispronouning " pagan?"