I predict that the Orcs shall win

@nathanpeterson8011

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha good joke man but clearly the orcs are the better army this was over at list building

@Redtecho

Жыл бұрын

Oh my.

@simonwilliamnoelmurray9179

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanpeterson8011 Nah not at all, the cirith ungol list has won heaps of tournaments. The game ended at the troll charge. You can bring the worst list in the game and still do quite well if you're competant enough

that troll charge was obscene, I almost couldn't watch the rest. Ongoing great work on the series guys!

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

It was crazy! I've played so many games with the troll and that is the best it's ever done

Loved that terrain showcase at the very end with the gates opening to reveal the village. You have a great sense for enhancing the narrative games.

Ive not played Lord of the rings in years, but finding this channel gives me hope that there is still a large player base for it

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

There is a great player base! A tournament in the UK recently had 150 players and we have one coming up in Australia that has 50 people signed up

@emberpowertcg7692

Жыл бұрын

@@ConquestCreations glad to hear it! I'll have to keep an eye out for any local events

@cjjulius4138

Жыл бұрын

It's actually seen a decent resurgence globally it seems

Those troll impact hits were bull. Strength 10 is ridiculous

@sjins1poolboy698

Жыл бұрын

The first time I've seen one in action (apart from the battle report where it just got throwing speared to death 😂) that was ridiculous!

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha that was the best the troll has ever done! I've had so many games where he stomps one or two enemies then gets taken down

@ryangale3757

Жыл бұрын

I mean, even if you drop it back to just it's regular Strength 7, it's still killing anything below Defense 6 on 3s, and only needs 4s for most everything else. In general, I'm not a big fan of those kinds of 'hit and keep moving' attacks period, just feels a bit too difficult to balance, but either way, Azog's Legion as a whole is probably somewhat overpowered for their points, there is a ton of killing power there. Even without the troll's nasty first charge, the Gundabad orcs were cutting right through their Cirith Ungol counterparts, no trouble; that's what made the real difference.

@sjins1poolboy698

Жыл бұрын

@@ryangale3757 yeah and Shelob couldn't get amongst it. I've been out of the hobby for a long while but been picking it back up and I just can't believe Azog and Bolgs' stat lines for orc captains essentially. I mean sure Gothmog is pretty good as well but Azog's legion just seems to have an incredibly good selection of characters and units from what I've seen of it. Azog is a surprise to me (I know they've gone movie Azog) since a 30ish year old Dain Ironfoot killed him a 100+ years before the Hobbit.

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

@@ryangale3757 The Troll Brute is really well balanced by its low fight value and low defence. Its really easy for a few heroes to flash kill it and when it goes down it leaves a massive hole in the battle line. If it were hitting with anything less than strength 10 it would be under powered. I have gotten in quite a lot of games with it now and ultimately I don't think its an optimal competitive choice. I think Azog's legion is very balanced as a faction overall. I haven't seen it on the top of any big tournaments yet. You are correct about the orcs being the real difference. Strength 4 defence 6 going up against strength 3 defence 5 is a big difference. It also really helped that I had a banner and spear supports giving me a lot more attacks

Sending an orc captain with lots of models (including shagrat) lined up behind him to “deal with” a troll brute is like throwing corn bread into a pond to “deal with” the ducks. ToURnaMenT VetRan move.

Man really thought that Cirith Ungol had all the tools to win this game but fuck that brutes move really just decided the game

The Age of Men is over. The Time of the Orc has come.

Wow, that Troll brute did some work - tasty hurl and a crazy charge probably decided that game with an early lead. Great game guys!

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

It's the best the Troll has ever preformed!

Nice troll stompage. Nice painted armys, i like the metal mordor orcs, and their basing.

Always look forward to these, can’t wait for them to be released, great content!!!

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Amazing battle report. Keep up the good work!

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

The Orcs will finally win one!!

@ConquestCreations

11 күн бұрын

It's a solid way to guarantee the right race wins

Awesome battle rep as always :)

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

It’s been 84 years…

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully it wont be 84 before the next one

Why is elven city unlike for 2 orc armies to meet? They killed all elves and then they argue about loot, so they FIGHT! ;D

That was an awesome match-up. Love me a fun match-up. gg

Lets frekin go! keep up your AWSOME work!!

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

Thanks for the batrep

I was wondering when you were putting out another EP of this.

Hey Jacob, cool battlereport , just one question , your first warband contains 13 followers even though the warband's captain is only a hero of fortitude , was that a mistake or is there some rule iam not aware of?

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

That would definetly have been a mistake on my behalf when writing the graphic. The first warband should have one less warrior with spear and shield

Thanks for the battle rep! Where's the terrain comes from? It's gorgeous!

I love that troll brute sculpt, where did you get it?

Sweet batrep

Should Shagrat have got a might when the troll died?

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

Good spot. According to Blood and Glory he should have

In the LL Shelob has 2 attacks. So it's 3 attacks on the charge.

@seanowens5423

Жыл бұрын

Shelob only gets a second attack against Men, Elves, and Dwarves I think. Because "She Hungers for Sweeter Meats"

@Julesgio

Жыл бұрын

@@seanowens5423 you're right ! My bad

New to middle-earth sbg, on shooting if my archers are elevated and I shoot at a model behind a fee model and have full line of sight do I still roll for in the way?

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

In this game there is 'true line of sight' This means that you look from the models eye view and use this to determine if there is anything in the way

Would the troll have to charge as per control zones? Or does it have a special movment clause sorta like a mumak?

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

These trolls just charge normally so they don't have to go in a straight line. It makes them a whole lot more powerful

One rules question. If you have multiple models in the same combat on the same side. Do they all have to roll separately with their own fight value or do they all roll together and use the highest fight value of the group?

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

Great question, this is one that I got wrong when I first started. All the models in a fight use the highest fight value. However if there are any heroes with might they need to be rolled separately because they can only use might on their own dice rolls

@dalorasinum386

Жыл бұрын

@@ConquestCreations ok so it was what I thought. I just forgot about the last part with using might to modify.

Spiders are the devil.

Where is that troll model from?

@nyverdaletabletop1674

Жыл бұрын

kzk miniatures

Oof, what a lousy matchup pull for Cirith Ungol. Their lack of cavalry or ranged attacks definitely makes fighting off stuff like that Troll Brute very, very tricky without some lucky dice rolling.

@judgejudyandexecutioner.5223

Жыл бұрын

They had more shooting, and shelob is faster than the brute, with rerolls to wound. Shagrat + shelob into the brute is likely game over.

Where to buy this stuff?

Is there an online army builder?

@ConquestCreations

Жыл бұрын

You can use battle scribe and there are a few other spreadsheets out there but for me nothing beats pencil and paper